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AfriqueDuZuid:
In South Africa!

The cheapest roofing material is concrete tiles, followed by steel and then clay/stone tiles with Colorbond at the top end of the scale.

http://www.roofingcontractorssa.co.za

Noted.

So add concrete flooring and let's see where it lies. Concrete flooring is not tiling. Pretty much 6% of Kenyan houses have the tilling fit, from slate to concrete tiling. 8.6% are concrete flooring/ slab.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Kenya bring 28% urban, and having 49% of your urban dwellers living in slums is no insult or blackmail., but it's a Kenyan Reality faced by kenyans

You can't be stupid more than this

Yes 28% of Kenya is urban, India is pretty much the same - China was there 5 yrs ago, with massive infrastructure. But what is the point? Should we take this sentiment as intellectual comeback?

Just40:
yes .....the cost of wood, aluminum sheets or aluminum frames and sheets for a small 3 bedroom house can hit 8,000 dollars.

I spent less than 8,000 dollars to flow my first floor.

That's was not the bone of contention. And as I said, BOOK ME! stop diluting my engagement with the shackman. You had your time yesterday, you didn't use it.

Just40:
almost 90%
It's the predominant

Do you know the difference between iron and metal roofing?

AfriqueDuZuid:
Being thick skinned does not mean smart/intelligent don't get it twisted

Those are facts, real hard facts! Go check your national gazzetes, UN reports,, IMF reports, world bank report, your national statistics!

Choose to be stupid I couldn't care less

Thick skin is immune to something: insults, stupidity, blackmailing... Etc. Some intellects are not immune to dumb comments like the one you peddle around.

Thank because I can tolerate some gibberish from you, not everyperson can do that!

So try elevate your thinking horizon before I throw you inside the forgiveness bandwagon.

AfriqueDuZuid:


As much as that would have been great, however UAE is ahead they got so much right

You need to play along. What the dwarf is doing is trying to fit his head into your b@m. He's desperately looking for support. You need to understand some things.

Just40:
SA is better off than UAE

Yes. So if UAE is below SA pay grade, why can't he choose other better nations than UAE and compare?

That shows a high level obtuseness if you ask me. It's like me comparing Kenya with Togo or Niger.

Just40:
you don't even know what you're talking about ....
Such empty headed bunch

Dwarf... I see you can't with your two feet. You had to look for a loophole to merge your dwarffness in. Come back when the space is ran from shackment. And we'll talk about the tiling and the concrete flooring.

Worth noting that from volume 3N of your Housing and structure survey, 89% of your houses are metal-fit. 1% are tilling and 3% are concrete flooring roof.

Book me when I'm done with shackman.

AfriqueDuZuid:
I'll keep on repeating it, it seems like it hasn't sunk in yet

Never repeat dumb sh*t in me. I'm thickskinned do that!

AfriqueDuZuid:
Mining contributes around 1% to Kenya GDP With potential to reach 4%

That 1% is $1.1b in monetary terms im quite sure that's 10 000s of families. There are over 700 mining companies in kenya as of 2023.

What has this got to do with anything? I said SA gets trillion of dollars from minerals. That is pretty much 1000 times more!

WHY TGE HELL ARE YOU THIS SLOW?

Just40:
We prefer aluminum roofing here.
It is more durable, less maintenance and cost quite a lot

How many per cent of roofs in Ghana are of aluminum fitting?

Just40:
🤣😂

That's why I ignored him

So metal roofing is more expensive than concrete flooring? The dwarfs have joined the bandwagon. Context is important. The shackman is talking about the concrete tiling, and he's comparing it with the most expensive tiling around. Concrete flooring is something else!

AfriqueDuZuid:
It does not matter

The message intent, you understood it very well

I countered the message very well. You're here for word contention... But you're forgetting that what you're doing is just pasting paragraphs.

The point I gave you is this:
Go compare your giant SA with UAE. Kenya is not yet there.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Free floating is 25%

Foreign corporate account for more than half of free floating 13%of overall

So it's

Vodacom 35%
Vodafone 5%
Foreign corporates 13%
Foreign individual ~1.3%

Making it 54.3% of entire safaricom

However it matters not

Drop the source, link, picture or FK off. I gave you a recent char for all the shareholders. I've provided a chart suggesting local shareholders holders holds nearly 50/50 in free float, but you're here disturbing like a mongrel, SMH!

What is wrong with you?

AfriqueDuZuid:
13. South Africa
Length Of Rail Network: 20,986 Kilometers

Rail transport in South Africa connects all the major cities and is an important part of the country's transport infrastructure. With 20,986 kilometers of rail network, South Africa's railway system is the most developed in the African Continent.

9. Length Of Rail Network: 27,860 Kilometers

France has the second largest rail network in Europe with an estimated total length of 27,860 kilometers. The national state-owned railway company, SNCF, operates most of the passenger and freight services on France’s rail network, which is marked by a clear predominance of passenger traffic. The International Union of Railways (UIC) is also headquartered in Paris, France.


8. Brazil
Length Of Rail Network: 29,850 Kilometers

Brazil ranks among the most populated and the largest countries in the world. Despite being one of the top countries with largest railway networks in the world, most of Brazil’s rail network is for freight transportation or urban passenger transportation, with only a very limited intercity passenger rail system. The total length of the rail network in Brazil is estimated to be around 29,850 kilometers.


These are who gives me sleepless nights

When copy pasting, do like this.

"13. South Africa
Length Of Rail Network: 20,986 Kilometers

Rail transport in South Africa connects all the major cities and is an important part of the country's transport infrastructure. With 20,986 kilometers of rail network, South Africa's railway system is the most developed in the African Continent.

9. Length Of Rail Network: 27,860 Kilometers

France has the second largest rail network in Europe with an estimated total length of 27,860 kilometers. The national state-owned railway company, SNCF, operates most of the passenger and freight services on France’s rail network, which is marked by a clear predominance of passenger traffic. The International Union of Railways (UIC) is also headquartered in Paris, France.


8. Brazil
Length Of Rail Network: 29,850 Kilometers

Brazil ranks among the most populated and the largest countries in the world. Despite being one of the top countries with largest railway networks in the world, most of Brazil’s rail network is for freight transportation or urban passenger transportation, with only a very limited intercity passenger rail system. The total length of the rail network in Brazil is estimated to be around 29,850 kilometers."

Or embolden.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Kenya is not mineral less, wakanda? You watch too much Martin Goodman comics wake up from that slumber.

South Africa is multi racial is you can handle it that fact you can go jump over the cliff

Kenya giving me sleepless nights? get over yourself

Figure of speech will help you. The minerals in Kenya can barely feed ten families ( hyperbole should not skip that midget brain _ Jus like UAE, SA has gained trillion dollars from minerals.

A random black suffer like you barely knows what goes on in your country, few know. That's why there is "kill boer movement" _ blended with hate for progressive black nations.

AfriqueDuZuid:
State, corporate and individuals are 3 diffent things

The state owns 35%
Vodacom 35%
Vodafone 5%

Invidual foreign 1.3%
Corporate foreign 12.7%

Individual local 4.5
Corporate local 7%

Do you have glaucoma or you're here to disturb me?

Check the chart well! Foreign individual shareholders are barely 1%, local individual are more than16%... Remove the clog in your eyes and try again.

AfriqueDuZuid:
High rises are responsible for extreme road traffic.. I see you not aware of good city planning.

Back to South Africa

Did I tell you, rail is back in SA... All through out the city even long distance like Pretoria via Johannesburg to Capetown($23 for a 1400km trip) , Pretoria via Johannesburg to durban($9 for 600km trip) East London and limpopo line

Also metro rail is back in major cities in SA which is extremely cheap Pretoria to Johannesburg $0.5

You should be comparing your south Africa with mineral rich countries like UAE. Kenya is mineral resourceless, we use our brain to do our things - black wakanda wise. We manage, coordinate and run every affair on our own. We're not dependent on natural resources, Boer's or India's support. Kenya should not be giving you sleepless nights, especially now that it's growing. Wait for her 10yrs later then bring your burnt b@m - now that we know the average IQ of average black suffer is barely 68%, we are convinced outside boer, nothing much can happen.

AfriqueDuZuid:
I am correct

Not entirely.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Concrete roof is one of the cheapest form of roofing

At least in south africa

Says a shackman from a scrappy house.

There is a concreting flooring, and there is a concrete tiling. No one is talking about tiling. We know concrete tiles are not close to expensive!

AfriqueDuZuid:
State share holding and local shareholding is less than 50%

Also state shareholding and corporate/individuals are in no way innit together.... Each representation is liable for its own

Says who, a shackman?

State shareholding is more than 50%, that's if we add the local corporate shareholders and individuals. Don't debate things you know little to nothing about them.

Go and study this chart, it will give you a clear picture.

Just40:
Ghana's private sector has achieved that without even govt involvement. Hence the abundance of family unit housing here.
All the govt had to do was just to focus on making economic activities thrive.

That cannot be achieved in Kenya hence the magnitude of poverty and slums.

FYI, 89% of rentals come from individual providers(random Kenyan business people). Private companies has managed only 5.6%, and the government has done the bare minimum. Kibera sits in the public land, it's the government's initiative to either demolish it, upgrade it or transfer it. Heck! Going by volume 3N of your ministry report(reality) , Ghana's slum sector is in fact in its booming(Review the report and see the upward trajectory of metal, wooden and mud houses) - Never heard of any slum eradication in Ghana by private sector.

To demonstrate how poor Ghana is, only 3.1% of the entire houses have concrete roofs - Kenya has a whopping 8.2%! ~ refer to Kenya Volume IV Census report. (concrete roofs mostly mean RICHNESS)

Let's spool back to avoid getting lost in words, here is the point: The government is capable of eradicating kibera/slums. The private sector is the reason for booming real estate and housing units; From decent, Top-notch to shanty houses.

Mkenya2019:
All Kenya slums are well positioned near the areas of work (rich neigherbhood or cbds) - therefore they sit on prime land - and the slums are certainly eradictable.

To prevent new slums - gov should run this affordable housing program - in perpetuity. The real estate market will always out prize the poor or lower middle class - be it in Vienna or New York or Cape town.

It good this affordable program is covering all the 290 const.

I agree.

Saddamochieng00:
Nope. Never used a harsh word against Wuoche or any other azimio guy in here. You can go through all my posts The other dude is extremely tribal as everyone in here knows and he has a deep disdain for Kalenjins.

Let's replace the term "harsh" with "condescending tone"

Umoja

AfriqueDuZuid:
. Safaricom is not fully owned by government

35% government
35% Vodacom
5% Vodafone

No! Vodafone owns 5%. Assuming you are right, Kenyan government is the only government in the world that owns a huge share of Safaricom, just like SA with MTN. State shareholding is powerful! So when you add state with local shareholding, the force becomes whole-length! Free float is a tiny percent, go get your facts right.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Inflation dropping does not mean prices have droppped, it only means prices are only rising at a better rate

It depends. You might be correct

7 skyscrapers have been proposed, 6 in Upperhill. I can't wait to see the transformation.

Saddamochieng00:
Shut up already. The situation has been the same for everyone at the bottom of the pyramid since independence. Nothing new. It's you entitled woke brats that can't stop whining. Bleat some more. It's nine more years of Ruto so if you need cyanide or Roundup we're here and willing to wire you some mulla asap.

I have observed a thing from you.
You trash Kenyans with different political views from yours barbarously!
It's easier for you to harshly critique Woushe for saying inflation in Kenya is dire than calling out a hobbit saying 80% of Nairobi is slum.

Isn't that concerning, my bro?

Just40:
you have not travelled wide that's why you think like that.
All around the world, the most practical way of moving people out of slums is to provide them with economic opportunities. That's the fastest way, they'll move their life into better communities to live.
I've seen it in the US where black families succeed and move out of the hood Into majority white porch neighborhoods. It wasn't a forced eviction program.
I've seen it in Brazil where people moved out of the favella into structured communities.
In India New Delhi and Mumbai, people make it and move out of the slums...
In Busan South Korea, the same thing.

In places where forced eviction happened and slum dwellers were expected to rent places they can't afford, immediately another huge slum popped up nearby and just 5 years down the line the new community became another slum. Example, pipeline Kenya ...I've seen a few of these extreme cases in California (luckily communities rose up against it to prevent their communities from turning into slums)

Providing economic activity and funding housing programs to eradicate shacks are both achievable in Kenya, certainly not broke Ghana. I've seen health workers & teachers dwelling in slums because of close proximity to the working station. The thing here is slum can be eradicated. It's worth noting that Majority of slum dwellers in kibera can afford pretty much all basic needs, some stay in a luxurious form — there is even a fiber connection in the region, something that is lacking is some posh areas in Ghana. What might happen if the government decide to create modern units with close to a shack rent? Nothing! The worst will be degrading the modern apartments to a slum scraper ( if policies are not taken into consideration ) _ and perhaps the government involvement in maintenance and security checks wi be a win.

Eradicating kibera is doable but not easy!

Hobbit... You should thank Goodness I've engaged you. I don't engage non-entities from irrelevant nations like Ghana.

Goodnight.

Just40:
my skeleton is 6.1 feet tall

By definitely you'll qualify as a hobbit in my presence. No wonder your mental capacity is stunted

Shma: you're vertically challenged in all fronts: BRAIN.... bones...
Justo zombie: you're a hobbit no wonder your mental capacity is stunted.

Don't copy what I'm telling you. Be creative and make use of that dwafling spongy head.

You mean 1.6 feet tall or what? Cos hobbits don't go past 4 feet. A Hobbit's brain ceiling is, 30%_ while the average height is 4.5 feet.

Don't celebrate obesity. People are busy working out and keeping fit. .. You can't be a dwarf and obese - choose one struggle.

Just40:
it hasn't been static ... It went up and came back down and whatever data you see there is backed by a fact attached as a source.

The Ethiopian economy is the largest in East Africa

Kkkkkkk.....