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MichaelSokoto:
Once more I put it str8 2 u dat if tellin u d truth iz an insult 2 u then am really really truly very sorry u

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Of course, those who insult people do not know what insult means. So, the best thing is to leave them to their folly.

Honestly, TAN is APC's nemesis. The party's hench men can't make comments without mentioning TAN.

Whoever came with this TAN idea must be a strategist. The thing dey pain the overhyped Fashola no be small.

You should know that the APC has a three-point agenda: Propaganda, propaganda and propaganda. If they can say that a man who illegally toppled a legitimate government is not corrupt what else can they not say? They forget that taking advantage of the system, breaking the law and acquiring anything (including power) illegally are all components of corruption.

signz:
I'm in enugu now along fire service road,I just saw a train pass not more than an hour now. We had to stop for the train to pass.

Enugu to ph is still undergoing minor rehabilitation and I know this because me and my cousin were subcontractors to Esser the Turkish company handling the project.

Though some of the railway workers complain about the Turks, saying that the contract should've been given to the Chinese.

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You will see that none of the naysayers complaining will refer to your eyewitness report. You have truncated their orgasm. They are very confused and inconsistent in their arguments. Some of them will say that GEJ is divisive and favours the SE and SS alone when it suits them. At other times they will claim that SE and SS are stupid for supporting GEJ who does more for the North and SW. It is typical of them. They keep stacking the cards against the truth. People have become propaganda-fatigued because they are tired of their completely unclad lies.

atlwireles:
Namadi Sambo Namadi Sambo Namadi Sambo why change a wining team.

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El tu atlwireles! Is it that you don't recognise APC propaganda/Sahara reporter's lies when you see one? Haba! you should know.

Na today Buhari begin pull crowd? Since he openly supported the the Sharia movement in 2000/2001 he has been pulling crowd. So, Buhari's crowd cannot be a problem for Jonathan and cannot cause him to change his VP. If he wants to, he will do that Buhari or no Buhari.

This story is as true as the 2010 story that Ikedi Ohakim slapped a Catholic priest. None of those who spoke of the slap said they witnessed the incident but they all knew somebody else who witnessed it. Anyhow, that's politics for you. Propaganda reigns supreme. Ohakim just couldn't connect with the people so he had to go. I supported the people of that state for sending him packing, thus sending out the message that you don't mess with the people. Unfortunately, they voted in the circus director called Rochas. The most disorganized and confused of all the governors. He comes up with so many populist projects but only ends up delivering crap if he delivers at all. Honestly, I pity my maternal state. Very wonderful people but unfortunately have had below par governors since 31 December 1983 when Major General Buhari illegally acquired power and ended the visionary government of Dee Sam Mbakwe.

That man was great. He industrialist the old Imo. He knew his people liked education and he set up the then Imo State University, which, along with Ambrose All University, Ekpoma and Lagos State University was the first set of state universities created in this country. Mbakwe built infrastructure. There was potable water in the major towns of the old Imo State: Aba, Owerri and Umuahia. There were also rural water schemes. He built and equipped general hospitals across the then 21 local government areas of the state. The roads across the state were superbly built by Monier Construction Company (MCC).

Mbakwe had his faults, though. For instance, he liked owing teachers. There was a state-wide teachers strike in 1980/81 that lasted for months. And Mbakwe ordered mass promotion of pupils to next class because the strike affected the promotion exams. He reportedly said Imo people were brilliant and that pupils would lose little by missing few months of learning. It is not known whether the pupils lost much by missing those few months of learning. What is known, however, is that in spite of his cat and dog relationship with teachers, they knew that he was the best option available and as such voted massively for him in the 1983 governorship elections-- which he won, by a landslide, too. The people liked him because he was never hypocritical. He never claimed to be a saint. Most importantly, he performed. 31 years later, his legacies are still there.

It will not be well with Buhari and his co-travelers for truncating the march of Imo State to greatness. That state has never recovered since that coup.

That some people believe this crap shows how bereaved of common sense many are. I mean when you read a story that does not add up you will know.

MichaelSokoto:
If all d truth I've said is insult 2 u then am truly sorry 4 u



Look @ d fine gentleman in d pix below...
He's ur next President come 2015

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We will continue to expose the hypocricy of your principal and the irresponsibility of his disciples. I only pray that when he loses again he will not instruct you and his other followers to start killing southern corps members loot shops owned by southerners in the north.

There is a reason Nigerians have continuously rejected him. Even el-Rufai said that Buhari is not electable.

Now one good advice: You can't sell your god, Buhari, by insulting people. You don't win arguments through insults. You win arguments through demolishing the other person's claims with facts and logic. When you throw insults around you show that you are bereaved of ideas.

I don't expect less anyway. Buhari is bereaved of vision and ideas. His followers must be.

MichaelSokoto:
Am wastin my time wit u
Pls look 4 someone else 2 argue blin dly wit!

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Apart from insult what else do you know? You just have been throwing insults around. It is charactetistic of all Buhari supporters. When busted they resort to insults. You guys cannot spin this one. Thank God for this Freudian slip. No more can he claim ignorance of that coup. Bloody criminal coup plotter claiming Mr Integrity!

[quote author=MichaelSokoto post=27682053]Mr. Sibabasibaba1
Where in d bolded d he admitted 2 have partook in d coup?

Don't tell me dat should be hard enuff 4 u 2 analyse? [/quo

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I don't want to sound like a broken record. I assume are intelligent and can interpret texts. Please, in the context of this interview interpret 'But deliberately, nobody was killed'.

MichaelSokoto:
U altered it does makin u a big fat liar & its a sin 2 bear false witness against anoda pesin, ee dey bible!

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Unfortunately, I don't do insults. I thought I could engage you in a discussion but how wrong I was. How can you accuse me of altering the original post of a thread when I am not the OP? The OP has provided a link to the source of the original post yet you demand a link and are accusing me unnecessarily. To bad!

If you did not see in the original post where Buhari said that they deliberately avoided bloodshed during his coup, it indicates you are one of those who read only headlines and start commenting in threads.

MichaelSokoto:
D least u could do iz possibly provide d link 2 ur source.
Iz dat 2 much?

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Which link are you talking about again? Did you not read the thread you are commenting on or did you read only the headline?

MichaelSokoto
Have u confirmed dat he partook in d coup? Or has ever told anyone dat he partook in it?

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Buhari has indicated in this interview that because he didn't like to shed blood they DELIBERATELY planned the 1983 coup to be bloodless. Yet his apologists are trying to exculpate him from the illegal, corrupt and criminal action that changed the destiny of this country negatively

Buhari has indicated in this interview that because he didn't like to shed blood they DELIBERATELY planned the 1983 coup to be bloodless. Yet his apologists are trying to exculpate him from the illegal, corrupt and criminal action that changed the destiny of this country negatively.


You guys cannot just spin this one. He is a coup plotter and he has confirmed it. We have heard from the horse's mouth. All your damage control cannot wash. Just that he succeeded with his boys. If not, he should have gone the way of Buka Dimka, Mamman Vasta and Gideon Orka.

At least nobody will tell us again that Buhari was not involved in the 1983 coup that toppled a duly elected government. His apologists cannot use that to sell him again. He is not a democrat and will never be.

It is unfortunate that some people are trying to wash him up and market him. God forbid that someone who truncated our evolution will return to bury us after 30 years.

Do we now need any other evidence that Buhari was the chief planner of the 31 December 1983 coup? Buharistans always tell white lies that their pay master never plotted any coup but was in fact INVITED by the planners of the 1983 coup to become Head of State because of his honesty. Even after Buhari side-steped questions on his involvement in the coup, he exposed himself through this comment:


“Yes. Remember how many people he killed subsequently for trying to overthrow him? But when I came in, there was
no bloodshed. I think a couple of policemen were killed and [Brigadier Ibrahim] Bako also died in
an ambush. “But deliberately, nobody was killed".

Indeed, the comment above does not suggest that Buhari did not know about the coup. It does not suggest that Buhari was only invited to lead Nigeria by the coup's dramatis personae as we have been erroneously made to believe.

By saying "deliberately, nobody was killed", Buhari is stating clearly here that 'we met and agreed that we should not shed much blood. We should only kill if there is resistance by Shehu Shagari's guards.

Indeed, this has vindicated Tanko Yakassai's revelation that Domkat Bali told his wife in 1983 that "they were meeting in Buhari’s house to stage a coup. Buhari was the GOC in Jos at the time, and he told her not to tell anyone" ( see: http://premiumtimesng.com/news/150148-exclusive-why-dying-yaradua-was-sneaked-into-nigeria-without-jonathans-knowledge-tanko-yakasai.html).

So, when Buharistans tell you again that their principal never plotted any coup, refer them to how their principal 'deliberately' did not want people to be killed during the coup.


The problem of Buhari is his blind followers. They present him as a flawless and perfect man who has the magic wand to solve Nigeria's huge problems. So, they perpetuate lies to sell him even when history is there to show that Buhari has too many flaws. Buhari is nothing but an idealess, visionless criminal coup plotter who as a young man in his early 40s could not achieve anything in his 20 month despotic reign.


We can't allow a man with analogue ideas to rule us in this digital age. To paraphrase Bill Clinton on Bob Dole, it is not the age of Buhari that is our problem, it is the age of his ideas'.

Do we now need any other evidence that Buhari was the chief planner of the 31 December 1983 coup? Buharistans always tell white lies that their pay master never plotted any coup but was in fact INVITED by the planners of the 1983 coup to become Head of State because of his honesty. Now judge them from this Buhari's comment:

“Yes. Remember how many people he killed subsequently for trying to overthrow him? But when I came in, there wasno bloodshed. I think a couple of policemen were killed and [Brigadier Ibrahim] Bako also died in an ambush. “But deliberately, nobody was killed".

Indeed, the comment above does not suggest that Buhari did not know about the coup. It does not suggest that Buhari was only invited to lead Nigeria by the coup's dramatis personae as we have been erroneously made to believe.

By saying "deliberately, nobody was killed", Buhari is stating clearly here that 'we met and agreed that we should not shed much blood. We should only kill if there is resistance by Shehu Shagari's guards.

Indeed, this has vindicated Tanko Yakassai's revelation that Domkat Bali told his wife in 1983 that "they were meeting in Buhari’s house to stage a coup. Buhari was the GOC in Jos at the time, and he told her not to tell anyone" ( see: http://premiumtimesng.com/news/150148-exclusive-why-dying-yaradua-was-sneaked-into-nigeria-without-jonathans-knowledge-tanko-yakasai.html).

So, when Buharistans tell you again that their principal never plotted any coup, refer them to how their principal 'deliberately' did not want people to be killed during the coup.


The problem of Buhari is his blind followers. They present him as a flawless and perfect man who has the magic wand to solve Nigeria's huge problems. So, they perpetuate lies to sell him even when history is there to show that Buhari has too many flaws. Buhari is an idealess, visionless criminal coup plotter who as a young man in his early 40s could not achieve anything in his 20 month despotic reign.


We can't allow a man with analogue ideas to rule us in this digital age. To paraphrase Bill Clinton on Bob Dole, it is not the age of Buhari that is our problem, it is the age of his ideas'.

[quote author=OAM post=27607595]Its bad you are not a student of History, read through your little eyes and you realize how instrumental the North has been to the development of Lagos. If the North stop the food chain distribution to Lagos, i bet you run to your homeland Enugu.
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Oga, no vex, does the North give the food free of charge to people in Lagos? If people in Lagos don't buy their food the north will also suffer loss because they will not have any money. So, the North has no choice but to sell.

^^^ I am still looking for the part of the article that says Onyebuchi Chukwu stole money. Unfortunately, many have started cursing the man after reading the highly misleading headline.

Thank you Collynzo for telling us those who could be responsible for mismanaging the said money.

And the Chukwu haters also failed to see where the man acknowledged weaknesses in the management of the funds, called for more of such audits and also listed steps the ministry was taking to strengthen the process.

The biggest lie is the unclad lie that Buhari never plotted any coup. Perhaps there are two definitions of coup plotting. These Buharistans see black and call it white. If Al Mustapha never filmed Diya, Adisa and Olarinwaju begging Abacha, we would have been told that they never took part in the 1997 coup which the Lagos-Ibadan axis press called a phantom coup.

Thank God Solomon Lar, Domkat Bali and Tanko Ibrahim had revealed the extent of Buhari's involvement in the 1983 coup. We also know the extent of his involvement in the July 1966 counter-coup as a subaltern.

This canonization of Buhari is getting nauseating

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Apart from insulting people what else do you know what to do in this your life?

Is it that nobody read this story or that they read but did not understand? There is nowhere in the story that it is written that Tambuwal's security aides have been withdrawn.

This is a sponsored the-best-form-of defence-is-attack story. Tambuwal and his APCheats are envisaging that such might happen in the future hence they are using a friendly newspaper, daily trust to whip up sentiments and win public sympathy in case FG decides to act.

If you read the story well, you would have noticed that it said an intelligence came that there were PLANS to withdraw the security aides. But many read the just the headline and started blabbing.

It is just another APCheat propaganda. It is very typical.

Clerverly:
The thread is about the office of the Speaker not about Tambuwal as a member of house of rep! Before now, many people believed you can only become a speaker, if your party had the majority of Members in the house, whereas as the constitution didn't say so.

Did you also read where, Oliseh Metuh-the PDP spokesman called for the resignation of Tambuwal citing the minority status of his new party?

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You cannot occupy the office of the speaker of the HoR without being a rep.

What Olisa Metu used is a rhetorical device called enthymeme.

My problem with your post is that you would have made your point and leave it for debate without insulting PDP members. That does bode well with people of goodwill. Ditto for PDP members whose posts are filled with insults on APC members. The insults mask whatever point in the post. Yea, there can be a line of funny banters but not heaps of insults.

Shalom!

pendy79:
I don't know of any faction in APGA since the court of appeal verdict. Umeh remains the only and substantive chairman of APGA. Will the Reps who defected to PDP from APGA go back there?

There will be multiple faction in Ondo. The battle line is drawn based on the directive of the NWC to lock up the secretariat which clearly states there are various groups claiming superiority. On what grounds will the PDP dissolve a properly elected and constituted exco just because they want to hand over structure to a governor.
Do we have crisis in labour party too? Didn't Political office holders defect from Labour Party to.PDP.

Nothing is gonna happen to the speaker except he willingly and voluntarily step down.

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Maxi Okwu is still in court over APGA and he still parades himself as APGA chairman. There has yet to be factions in Ondo PDP. Any thing you are saying in thar regards is mere conjecture.

Now, if Labour Party wishes not to call on INEC to declare vacant the seats of their former members who have defected to another party, that's there business. In law, it is said that equity aids the vigilant.


Remember when many PDP reps defected to APC and PDP went to INEC many of the reps returned because they knew the implications, especially after the court ruled that the newPDP was not a faction.

barcanista:
You don't know what you are saying Mr man. A party is Factionalise when there is a split in the National Executive Committee... That is the interpretation. Oyinlola by law was a member of PDP NEC as at then, Ikimi was not. GET IT STRAIGHT and I am done with this

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Hehehehehe...I like your style of running away when you are losing argument.


You say PDP is factionalised and the court says it is not. Are you now a higher authority than the courts? Even Oyinlola knew there was no faction and that he was fighting a lost cause hence moved on and joined your party. How can he be in APC and also be in a nameless PDP faction?

I think you are the one who may need to get it straight.

pendy79:
You seem not to get it here. A party is made up of people not a block of building. If people within a party disagrees then factionalization is born.

Is there an internal crisis in Ondo State PDP? Do we have factions there now? Is the state exco not dissolved now? Was there an internal crisis and multiple faction in Anambra APGA? Is the APGA immersed in a factional war or did it merged? Did the PDP celebrate the defection of all APGA REPs to the PDP? They bought it upon themselves and our own net has caught a giant FISH.

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APGA has two factions: Umeh and Maxi Okwu. There case has been in court for over a year now. At a time, Okwu won in the high court but Umeh later won at the Appeal Court. So, you can't use APGA as an example.

There are no two factions in Ondo. If there are name the chairmen of the factions. The party has internal issues in Ondo but no other faction has emerged until the dissolution. Now, they are engaged in horse-trading.

Now, for a faction to be proved it has to be clear-cut, else people will be leaving there parties every day claiming factions. The courts saw through this, hence they refuse to equate Lar's contrived faction in 2006 and the newPDP in 2013 to factions.

So, Tambuwal CANNOT prove that there is a faction in Sokoto PDP. He knows it. But as I said earlier, he is favoured by time.

Meanwhile, is this thread not about how PDP is so dumb and does not understand the Constitution? That we are arguing now about another section of the Constitution that the IP deliberately refused to cite has put a lie to the impression he tried to create.

barcanista:
Actually there was a faction as the court had ruled that Oyinlola was the rightful National Secretary of the PDP but the PDP refused to reinstate him. That alone is enough ground that PDP was factionalised during the emergence of the nPDP. Check what constitutes a faction

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So which PDP faction is Oyinlola's? Oyinlola's issue does not make the PDP factionalised. It is just like saying that APC is factionalised because of Ikimi and Sherrif. The newPDP guys wanted to create that impression and the court told the that there was only one PDP, hence most of them moved to APC. Even Oyinlola knows there is no faction hence he went to beg Muazu and GEJ to return as PDP secretary and not a PDP faction secretary.


When late Solomon Lar and co contrived a faction in 2006, an Abuja Federal High court threw their case out telling them there was no faction in PDP.

Section 109(10) (g) of the Constitution is clear. It was based on it that a former Plateau State Speaker, Lalong, and other pro-Dariye lost their seats in 2006.

Also check the Supereme Court judgement on Oloyo vs Alegbe (1985).

Even Tambuwal knows he is wrong and that the issue in his state cannot pass for faction. His only luck is that time is on his side,given that it's just few months to election.

[quote author=pendy79 post=27541199]Yeah, the APC played it cards well. The PDP in sokoto had internal wrangling and we waited for the NWC of the PDP to intervene and more graciously they send the BOT chairman of your mumu party to come for reconciliation. We have the tape of the reconciliation and we are waiting.

All the wise people for PDP don comot so you can see it is only clueless and daft people remaining.

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You sure do not know what a faction means. Reconciling agrieved party members does not equate to factions. The Plateau State legislators claimed that the party then was factionalised but the court still sacked them. Remember when Solomon Lar and co came up with another PDP secretarait in 2006/7? The court told them there was only one PDP recognised by INEC.

Even recently when Atiku and co formed the newPDP last year, the court still ruled that there was no faction in PDP. The truth is that it is very difficult to prove factionalisation.

What Tambuwal did was just to defect few months to the election, knowing that either court proceedings will take some time or PDP will not have time for him.

APCheats going bananas. They quote one section of the Constitution and forget the section that deals with legislators' defection to another party. Have they forgotten what happened to Plateau State legislators that defected to AC with Joshua Dariye in 2006/7? I will remind them that those lawmakers lost their seats.

Unless Tambuwal can prove in court that the PDP is factionalised in Sokoto State he is a gonner. The only thing that may save him is that elections are nigh and as such, PDP will be occupied more with elections.

Nevertheless, quoting the section of the Constitution that serves your need to create the impression that the PDP is ignorant of what the Constitution says, to my mind, smacks of mischief.

These Buharistans will not leave Igbo people alone. If you like use Ojukwu's name in your next post, your criminal coup plotting pay master will not get 2% vote of any Igbo state.

He just doesn't connect with the people.He unjustly jailed their foremost politician for 20 months without trial-not even in a kangaroo court. He failed them as PTF boss. He only remembers them when election is fast approaching.

So, OP you can make your point and campaign for your paymaster without your imaginary Igbo elder. May be, when Igbo doesn't cut it for you you shift to Ijaw elder or better still, Adaka Boro.


RUBBISH!