₦airaland Forum

ayindejimmy:
Thanks for your enlightenment.
If you follow my comments you would see the link I posted.
However, I still feel you could have made your points more maturely if it's devoid of resentments and degradation. The bolded would have made the acceptance of your info lost to a less tolerant mind

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I am sorry, sir, if you considered my comment resentful and degrading. I apologise, please. Insult is not in my character and I am one of those that campaign against it here.

I appreciate your maturity. And thanks for accepting my point. We learn everyday.

Cheers!

Everyday, Buharistans will tell us that Buhari was did not take part in the 1983 coup as he was only invited. At least today, it has been laid to rest. The criminal coupist has said he has no regrets for that action. So, nobody should tell us again that Buhari is not a coup plotter. He has owned up again that he is a criminal and brags about it that he owns noone any apology for stealing power with the gun.

Stealing power with gun or subverting the will of the people is the highest form of corruption. Add this to some cases of corruption which he has yet to give satisfactory answers to, you will find that the notion that Buhari is Mr Honesty and the only one who will save Nigeria is romanticism peddled by his deluded worshipers and perpetuated by a turncoat media compromised by the god of Bourdillion.

ayindejimmy:
Where is the Link to validate your assertion please?

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I don't need a link for that. Just as I don't need a link to tell you that Kangiwa was once a governor in Sokoto. You are the one who should come up with link to prove your argument that he was selected. If you did Government in Secondary School you would know of the 1954 Lytletton Constitution in Nigeria and its provisions.

Do further research on your own. In fact, do a google search on Alhaji Umaru Altine.

ayindejimmy:
The situations are different. Alhaji Altine was selected by the British not elected by the locals.

Enugu became a municipality in 1956 with Umaru Altine its first mayor.[26] After four years passed, Nigeria gained its independence in 1960. On 27 May 1967 the Nigerian government divided the Western, Northern and Eastern Region into 12 states[30] and Enugu was made the capital of the new East Central State.[1] On 30 May 1967 Enugu was declared the capital of the short-lived
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enugu

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No, you are wrong. Umaru Altine, aka Baba Ngiri, was elected on the platform of NCNC. In fact, an Igbo lost to him in the NCNC primaries. He was a very popular man because of his philanthropy. He was into cattle and transport and at times he would use his buses would carry people free of charge. Hence it was easy for him to win the election. So, the British did not select him. In fact, by 1956 the British had stopped selecting people for positions in Southern Nigeria.

OP, why did you not run the whole interview? You cherry picked the part of the interview that will allow you take a dig at the President but ignored the part of the interview below that was actually a dig at your lord and master, the criminal coup-plotting democratic president wannabe with 17th Century ideas but unfortunately is being romanticised by his ignorant supporters as the country's messiah:



Your contemporaries – some governors finishing their second terms in about six months – are heading to the Senate and you have decided not to. What is your political future?





I have been around for a long time. In all modesty, I think I have acquired the status of a father who should be guiding the children in this very difficult period of our history. I am in the last group of public office holders linked to the old order playing roles in the new generation. I am like a bridge with which people can cross over to the new generation of leaders in Nigeria. The old order fought for Nigeria’s independence which we got in 1960. Then there was military intervention and an unfortunate civil war. In 1979, we returned to civil rule and the founding fathers were again part of our democracy. That was when I came into politics. Those who plotted the military coup against our country in 1983, psychologically, did not see themselves as leaders. It was a defining moment in our history. They tried to wipe out our history. They sought to literally destroy, rubbish, terrorise, distort and obliterate the vision of our forefathers.

They felt that was the only way they could stand. While some of us remained with the founding fathers, the rest of them who went to the military college and fought the civil war decided to topple the very institutions that made them. For them to be seen as leaders they must wipe out the legacies they met in place.

I do not think there is anyone who was in office in 1983 still occupying elective office today. I was in the House of Representatives in 1979. I was a very young man, but I enjoyed the mentoring and support of the founding fathers. Being the last man standing from that generation, I think the best I can do is to help the younger generation to capture some values one of which is the value of seeing public office not as an industry but service. So, I am going to be much more in the political arena than the government arena. I will be active, politically, in my ward after I leave office. I will also be very active in Jigawa State.

I will be vigorously active at the national level in the party. I will be mentoring, influencing, guiding and advising. I will add more value outside government. My involvement in politics will not be seen as a means of employment or a sanctuary for me. I must not occupy a political office to be seen to be relevant. I am already relevant. I don’t need to be in the Senate to be relevant. I don’t need to be in an office for protection. So, it is only fair for me to allow the younger generation to play their roles in government while I act as a guide. I will be seen as father to all. I will be seen as the property of the people, whom they own. They will be coming to me as a father, friend, brother and mentor.

biafranqueen:
They are confused and can only go by the talking points shared in APC cyber meetings. How can social benefits be an asset? Well, the same same way Buhari said Abacha is corrupt free, Voodoo Economics.

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My sister I am ashamed of such elementary blarbing. Where in the world is social benefit to inactive section of the population an asset? APC is bereeaved of ideas that is why all they do is propaganda. Is it not crass hypocricy that a party its governors said there was no need for sovereign wealth fund when Okonjo-Iweala proposed it wil turn around now to say thay FG did not save money for the rainy days?

barcanista:
I always try to ignore you and I will do after this post. capital expenditures is expenses on assets and infrastructure while recurrent expenditure is expense on liabilities or things that keep on happening. Social services like unemployment benefit is never recurrent, because it is dependent upon a variable vis-a-viz job availability. You only bear such burdent when there is NO job, and the cost is relative as said earlier. Also, the population are Asset to any government, while officers of government are liabilities. Hence, whatever goes to the population (Variable Assets) in form of social benefit or otherwise is CAPITAL, while whatever goes as pension, salaries, gratuities, and other forms of benefit that is needed to run a government are liabilities, hence, recurrent. You should not bother quoting me again because I will IGNORE you!


Bye bye

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Stop mis-educating people. Benefits are never part of capital expenditure. Population can be an asset or a liability depending on the dependency ratio. An aging population can never be an asset to any government. Why do you think that some countries give higher points to younger people on their point-based migration programmes? Perhaps, you are mistaking social benefits for social capital (roads, bridges, hospitals, etc). Benefit generally is allowance given to those sections of the population that for some reasons (like being old, physically incapacitated, unemployed etc) do not earn money. In many instances, it is paid whether there are jobs or not. And nobody can predict how the number of those in this group will rise or fall. Even when there are jobs, there are people who just refuse to work but will keep reproducing in order to be given free house, child benefit, etc. Rather than 'forming' economics teacher, a simple google search on countries' recurrent expenditure will school you a little. This is simple O' Level economics.

barcanista:
Bro no de fall your hand. Recurrent means all monies to be spend on running government. Eg stationeries, salaries and allowances of government officials and civil servants, pensions and gratuity, and other sundary expenses acrued to "AN office".

Capital expenditure includes all those monies that goes to the public, like infrastructure, social services, educational projects etc but not salaries and allowances or pensions.

In simple definition: whatever goes to the public is capital. Whatever is used to run government and parastatals is recurrent

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Recurrent expenditure simply means recurring/continual expenditure--expenses that you will continue to make. In other words, recurrent expenditure is expenses made on anything which does not lead to the creation or acquisition of fixed assets. In other words, one-off expenses. I have gone through your explanations of recurrent expenditure and have been wondering how payment of benefit to the old and the unemployed will lead to creation or acquisition of fixed assets. So, social welfare cannot possibly be capital expenditure. And the idea that 'whatever goes to the public is capital' to my mind, is warped.

Don Adinuba was asleep when a certain coup plotting general used religion to rise to political prominence. There is only one ex-ruler who openly said he would support the 'sharialisation' of Nigeria. After using Sharia to become a folk hero in the North, this democracy destroyer now wants people to believe that he is tolerant of other people's religion.

Being circumspect in speech is a virtue because whay you say today might hunt you tomorrow. That is the dictator's burden and I do not think anybody should help him bear it.

This BUHARI is bereaved of intelligence. Nigeria did not borrow to fight the civil war but Nigeria gave Bakassi to Cameroon as a thank you gift because of the civil war. The money we would have been making from the oil rich Bakassi would have been enough to repay any loan obtained to prosecute the civil war. The USSR (Russia) was given the nod to build the Ajaokuta Steel complex for Nigeria because of the arms and ammunition they supplied to Nigeria during the war. The steel complex has continued to be a drain pipe till today. Billions of dollars have been spent since the 1970s to get the complex running but to no avail. So, the argument that Nigeria did not borrow to fight the civil war is hogwash, for it would have been better we borrowed.

The military is suffering from the actions of coupists like Buhari. The last time Nigerian military retooled and re-equipped was during Shagari's regime. It is said that the best time to equip the military for war is during peace time. But even as an illegal head of state with full dictatorial powers Buhari did not think of equipping the military. So, nobody should listen to him because he is part of the problem of the Nigerian military.

The Senate has approved the $1bn the execute asked for to fight Boko Haram and the loan would be repaid in seven years. Senator Ahmed Markafi explained to the Senate how the loan would be expended and the Senate approved. But Because Buhari does not want the military- which he helped to kill- equipped, he is opposing the loan. Too late. The arms will come. In fact, they have started arriving. There is nothing the tyrant can do about it. This time, the arms will be used on his supporters who would seek southern corp members to kill when he loses in 2015.


Any way, what do you expect from a man who borrowed money to purchase an expression of interest form.

Olekumaster:
Haba! Even if you are anti-Buhari must you go to this extent?

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Why not counter my points with facts? That way you show your love for the coupist.

Demdem:

When next u quote me, use ur brain and not ur anus. Foolishness nauseat me

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Perhaps, you are paid per insult. Shame!

Demdem:

Goon, who made or called buhari a saint? Surely u are on cheap drug.
So because he didn't reject his peanut decades ago, it's enough reason why Jonathan shouldn't reject his own today despite being one of the highest in the world.

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I can see you get your kicks from throwing insults at the slightest opportunity. Anybody who reads your post does not need to be told who is on cheap drugs.

Brendaniel:
My brother, coup plotting is not justifiable if the government that was taken over from was not in anyway corrupt, once there is high level of corruption and instability in the government, the military can justify their actions to take over power and stabilize things, its like a clean up, but not to remain in power for long, conduct an election and hand over back to civilian rule.

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Coup plotting is never justfiable because most of the time it is motivated by greed or hunger for power. Did Nigeria get better after the 1983 coup? Was that coup not what set off the chain reaction that put us in our current mess? What did Buhari achieve in his nearly two years in power that justified his coup. I grew up in the old Imo State and I know that the state was on the path to greatness in various ramifications untill Buhari and his co-travellers struck. I also know that Jakande's visionary plans for Lagos were also truncated by Buhari. Greed, and not patriotism, is the motivation for 99.99 per cent of coup plots.

Demdem:
To be honest this is pathetic however the op ought not to have stopped here.
He ought to have also compared salaries and allowances of president's all over the world starting with Obama and Jonathan.
Despite paying Jonathan one of the biggest salaries and in the entire globe, the fool yet remains a failure.
Under this glutton, Nigeria has never had it this bad. The death of the innocent under him can only be compared to the death of Nigerians during the civil war. Jonathan is well paid with enough pecks far exceeding those in nass yet the fool is a failure.

The allowances of St Buhari as a former head of state are huge-even though he occupied that position illegally. It would have been examplary and patriotic if the holy coupist rejected the allowances because it is also the same body that the corrupt PDP set up that fixed his allowances.

OtunbaJega:
;;; This dude above me get sense at all?

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Perhaps the dude no get sense. But to show say you get sense pass the dude mek you use facts controvert wetin the dude write.

Brendaniel:
If buhari you claim is corrupt, then GEJ and the present folks in power be brother and sister to satan himself.....

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I am not claiming that Buhari is corrupt. I am saying that his is corrupt. Coup plotting is corruption. Buhari and his colleagues plotted a coup. So, Buhari and all those who plotted the coup with him are corrupt. Unless you are saying that coup plotting is not a crime.

Where do you people get this gist that Buhari paid all Nigeria's debts? Buhari in 20 months left Nigeria with $4bn debt. This issue has been debated here severally that even the 'blindest' of the coupist's supporters had to agree that it is a naked lie after datolee schooled them with facts and fugures.

And Alex Ekwueme was not sentenced. Buhari claimed that $56k was found in the guy's house but because Buhari could not bring any shred of evidence to prosecute him, he (Buhari) detained Ekwueme for 20 months without trial. He was never charged to court or even a kangaroo tribunal, hence he was never sentenced.

In an earlier thread, datolee showed that Buhari never initiated nor built any refinary. Yes, he signed the papers for two but they were initiated by Murtala Mohammed. Buhari only fulfilled all righteousness. Anybody who was made a Ministerof Petroleum then would have signed the papers because everything had already been agreed.

While I will not say that Buhari is a religious bigot, I have to say that his utterances suggest that he is one. When he said he would support the 'Sharialisation' of Nigeria and that Muslims should vote for only those who will promote their religion, what did he want non Muslims to say about him--call him a Pope? Unfortunately, those comments made him popular amongst the average northern Muslim, hence he became a cult figure in the North. Riding on that popularity, he joined the then APP which later became ANPP in order to actualise his pipe dream of becoming a civilian president. Recall that then APP had no governor in the south. Recall, too, that it was APP controlled states that declared Sharia first: Zamfara, Kebbi, Sokoto, Borno, Yobe

Buhari is been sold to Nigeria with so many lies. Unfortunately, some people are buying the lies. To me, the only plus of Buhari is that he is less ostentatious than most politicians. Apart from that, nothing. His anti-corruption mantra is hogwash. While he was an illegal head of state, many governors were corrupt and he couldnt do nothing. In previous posts here, I have detailed how Ike Nwachukwu as the governor of the old Imo State scammed the people with what he called SURVIVAL levy. Yet, Buhari did nothing about it. But his supporters claim that he sees corruption both in the secret and in the open and punishes culprits with pronto.

And it is not true that Buhari jailed journalists because they did not have evidence for what they published. They were jailed based on the official secrets decree which barred journalists from publishing whatever would embarrass the government. In other words, he promugated a decree banning the media fron reporting corruption in government circles. You see, that's the man who claims he fought corruption.

In any case corruption is not just embezzlement of fund. It is a complex issue. Even coup plotting is corruption. In other words, Buhari is corrupt. And how does he even to fight corruption? He has not, since 2003, articulated a blueprint of how he will fight corruption.

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lanrefront1:
Buhari has been at helm if affairs before. He didn't spend up to two years and paid the whole debt of Nigeria, Nigeria became debt free; almost the refineries you see today were built by Buhari; he refused to devalue our money, refuse to collect IMF loan, naira was so competing with dollar head-on that Nigeria was cut off from world trade and then he started doing trade by barter, exchanging our oil directly for imports.

finally western interests colluded with IBB to remove him. then the satanist IBB did all the West wanted, devalued our more ney, accepted IMF loan and legalizes corruption.

Right now, the stage Nigeria is, it doesn't need any magical plan or strategy, it just needs an upright exemplary leader who is determined to do the right and just thing.

How Atiku, a very corrupt politician who embezzled billions if dollars of Nigeria's money is a better choice than Buhari, only you understand.

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Buhari paid the whole debt of Nigeria? Why do Buharistans lie a lot? Buhari met $15bn external debt and left $19bn external debt. That is $4bn in less than two years.


Where is datolee when you need him? @ datolee please the lying machines are out again.

My only prayer is for the safety of corps members in the North. The criminal coup plotter who truncated our progress in 1983 may instruct his supporters to kill them when he loses in 2015 as he did in 2011.

Dear God, please protect our corps members from the evil hands of Buhari and his supporters. Grant Buhari the heart to accept that Nigerians hate his criminal past and cause him to be civil when he loses for the umpteenth time in 2015. Keep the prying eyes of his evil, blood sucking supporters away from our illustrious and patriotic corps members.






AMEN

tuborme:
Thesame Isrealis used by Buhari to import "Tanko Zubaru" from Britain? Some people are just jokes! Have we forgotten the minister in a crate.

Lol, 'Tanko Zubaru' is a former military administrator of Imo State.

pendicle:
Rochas won because imolites were tired of the wasted years under PDP just like the Edo people. An average akwaibom is still politically naive and unaware of the powers of his vote cos he believe it does not count

There is only one party in most South South states from Bayelsa, to cross-rivers to Akwaibom. The biggest threat to the PDP and why they are resisting with blood and force is the political amalgamation of Tinubu and Buhari. This has put spanner in their comfort zone that other parties are regional parties and hence can't match them structure for structure and money for money. Now we are having a replica of SDP NRC of old and Democrats and Republicans in the US. Watch out for.more political realignment and consolidation in the next few days.

The APC is the winner in all of the implosion in the PDP and its greed and arrogant posture is its Achilles heels. Nigerians are the better for it anyway. We are now having true democracy in operation, which the PDP and its DSS, Police, AIT Nairaland and other a.zzlickers don't want.

The popular mantra in Akwa-ibom is carry go. They don't conduct election as others do, it is a selection by the person with the largest political thugs and cult boys.

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Rochas did not win because Imo people were tired of PDP but he won because Imo people were tired of Ohakim. Imo is still a predominantly PDP state, judging from those in the Senate, HoR and State House of Assembly before the defection of the Uwajumaogu, the Speaker, to APGA immediately Rochas won election.

Ohakim was considered elitist while Rochas was considered a friend of the masses owing to his philantropy then. That added to the prevailing APGA sentiment gave it to Rochas. If Imo were that tired of PDP, they would not have voted Rochas because they knew that Rochas typified everything PDP, being a founding member and financier.

And in 2015 the only thing that may return Rochas will be that the opposition's vote will be divided between APGA and PDP, that is between Capt Iheanacho and whoever would emerge PDP's candidate.

pendicle:
Truth is election rarely takes place in akwa ibom. It is all about guns and ballot box snatching and intimidation of the electorate.

Udoedeghe lost out in 2011 because he was hounded and caged by the police and the DSS over the mob action at the state secretariat.

I've not seen any story of him running in 2015 lately so I won't know if he is running or not. which ever the case I think he should be brought into the know of all alliances and planning that umana umana is bringing. He watered the ACN and was like a lone ranger then so he has serve his dues.

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Udoedeghe lost becsuse he couldn't have won. There was no way he could have won. His stronghold then was Uyo Federal Constituency-- not even Uyo Senatorial district. He was neither on ground in Eket Zone nor in Ikot Ekpene Zone. Now, tell me how he could have won. That okada people were following him round Uyo did not mean that he was very powerful to the extent of winning the governorship election.

Gboliwe:
Question should be "where are the functional primary health centres". These are beautifully painted from the outside as I have never seen one of them open to know what goes on inside. The concept would have been "bamm" if these primary healthcentres were thriving but they are not. All the noise is on paper, nothing on ground.

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That, I cannot answer because I do not live in Rivers State and have never lived there. It is those who live there that can answer that.

But I doubt if a sane person can build beautiful health centres and refuse to make them functional, for health centres do not require huge amount of money to maintain. All you need are a matron, few nurses, pharmacy technician, one or two auxiliary nurse (s) and a doctor who visits once or twice a week. Added to these are decent consulting room (s), well stocked pharmacy of PHC level and one or two other stuffs.


55% of illnesses in Nigeria will be avoided if we get it right at the PHC level.

barcanista:
As long as he influences a few number of votes for Buhari, no wahala. When Buhari get to power he will deal with all aof them both in APC/PDP/APGA/LP all of them. The corrupt ones will pÀy to the last kobo while the non corrupt will get justice.

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Nigerians will first deal with the criminal coupist for arresting our development in 1983 when he led a group of power-hungry unpatriotic soldiers to seize power illegally. Soon, a Daniel who will pay him back in his own coin will come to judgement. He deserves the worst angle in Gashua prison.

jazzydee:
The Governor of rivers state admits on the above interview with AIT that he has built 140 primary health centers in 140 villages and towns in rivers state, And has abandoned all the general hospitals in the state, and concentrated on building 140 primary healthcentres that some cannot even treat headaches.

If this is not madness i don't know what is. Amaechi has reduced health care in rivers state to outpatients only healthcare, If you have any serious health issue that cannot be treated on a Treat- and - go bases which is what primary health facitities do, if your condition requires you to be admitted in a hospital then you are on your own. as the general hospital/secondary health facilities that can handle such has been abandoned by Amaechi.

This is not me saying it Its comming for gov. Amaechi listen to him on the video above.

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I am not a fan of Amechi but the truth is that when you pay attention to primary health care (health centres) you reduce pressure on secondary health care (general hospitals). Most of the illnesses that cause people to form crowds in general hospitals can be taken care of in the health centres.

While I will commend him for doing that, I must add that secondary health care should not be neglected. Ditto for tertiary health care( teaching and specialist hospitals). Health care becomes near perfect when adequate attention is given to the three levels.

LegatusGlaber:
peace

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Peace and progress, bro.

LegatusGlaber:
Bro, let's call a spade a spade

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Is there anybody calling a spade by any other name?

These supporters of a bloody coup plotter won't allow us to rest. All they want is to take us back to Egypt.

Is it not ridiculous that these princes of darkness want us to vote someone who denied Lagos of a metro line and truncated Mbakwe's unparalled development strides in the old Imo State?

Sure, we have yet to reach the promise land. There are giants on the way but they must surely be crushed. The evil machinations of the criminal coupist and the extemely corrupt frog of Bourdillion shall never prevail.