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[quote author=egift post=27157719]Answer the questions and stop forming ignorance.

So if tomorrow, Soludo state he led the recapitalization of Banks in Nigeria - you will tell him to shut up that he was not the Head of State. And if Stella Odua state that the Airports in Nigeria were remodeled[/color] under her leadership, you will tell her to shut up that she has never been a President? Ignorance is taking a toll on you.

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I know you are more intelligent than this. You created a thread which gave the impression that refineries were built during Buhari's regime. Now, some other person has debunked it and you are catching straws. Whatever CBN did under Soludo was because Obasanjo permitted it. Whatever Oduah might claim she did was because Jonathan permitted it. Did you remember when Soludo attempted to re-value our currency and YarAdua stopped him?

The man who appoints takes the glory and the knocks. Whatever is happening in the Agric sector today will be ascribed to Jonathan's regime and not the Minister. Why do you blame Jonathan for the bad federal roads instead of Orubebe? We blame Buhari today because of the highhandedness of soldiers during his regime-even when we know that he did not do those things directly.

You see, you will be taken more serious when you are consistent in your arguments. But when your arguments change because of the person involved, then nobody will take you serious.

Have you noticed that most of your colleagues in the Buhari Brigade are avoiding this thread? Even those commenting have nothing to say. It is because they know that this thread debunked all the claims in your earlier thread.

egift post=27156950]OP answer the following questions to free yourself from ignorance.

1. Who was the Federal Commissioner for Petroleum and Natural Resources between March 1976 – June 1978?
2. In whose tenure as Head of Nigeria's oil sector was the Nigerian National Oil Corporation and the Ministry of Petroleum Resources were reorganized to form the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC)
3. Who was the first Chairman of NNPC and in what year?
4. Masterminded and spearheaded the construction of 20 oil depots throughout Nigeria - A project that involved laying over 3200 kilometers of pipelines?

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A very lame defence. If he did all these what will you say Obasanjo the head of State then did? These things were not done under Buhari's regime as you dubiously tried to make us believe in the thread you created. They were done under Obasanjo/YarAdua regime.

Haba Itoro! A Major General cannot be 'mere'. It takes years to be a Colonel let alone a Major General. That's a very, very senior rank in the army. It is like calling a Commissioner of Police a 'mere' Commissioner of Police. Nope! Even though I am not a fan of the General, I will not be party to denigrating his rank in the army. Once an officer gets to the rank of a Brigadier General, he can unofficially be referred to as a General not because he has reached the rank of a substantive 'General' but because he has got to the General cadre.

Now, my grouse with Buhari is that he is a CRIMINAL, a coup plotter. The constitution says that coup plotting is a crime. So, any person who has directly or indirectly been part of coup is a criminal. Such people should not be given the honour of seeking the most powerful office in our land. They are bad eggs and not role models.

Nevertheless, I agree with you intoto that Buhari DID NOT achieve anything in his 20 months as an illegal Head of State. He only took us back many decades. he had neither vision nor idea. He was just a dictator, a bully. Manufacturing, he scored zero. Agriculture, he scored zero. Infrastructure, he scored zero. Forget all the spin, he achieved ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. To be fair to him, as an illegal Head of State, he was not as corrupt as his fellow illegals: IBB, Abacha and Abdulsalam. But he is not the SAINT that his supporters want us to believe. He has his shortcomings; and they are many. But number one of them is that is a CRIMINAL, a man who led (even though his supporters deny this) people who should be in the barracks to sack a duly elected government, a usurper.


He achieved nothing when he was full of life. He will not achieve anything as a grand father. He cannot be the leader of yesterday and at the same time be the leader of tomorrow. Iro! He can't take our grand father's position and also take our children's position.

We don't have to reward a dishonest criminal.

For those demanding where Prof. Soyinka called Buhari a dishonest man, here it is:




The crimes of Buhari-Wole Soyinka
By Wole SOYINKA


Sahara Reporters Jan 14, 2007

This intervention has been provoked, not so much by the ambitions of General Buhari to return to power at the head of a democratic Nigeria, as by declarations of support from directions that leave one totally dumbfounded. It would appear that some, myself among them, had been overcomplacent about the magnitude of an ambition that seemed as preposterous as the late effort of General Ibrahim Babangida to aspire yet again to the honour of presiding over a society that truly seeks a democratic future. What one had dismissed was a rash of illusions, brought about by other political improbabilities that surround us, however, is being given an air of plausibility by individuals and groupings to which one had earlier attributed a sense of relevance of historic actualities. Recently, I published an article in the media, invoking the possible recourse to psychiatric explanation for some of the incongruities in conduct within national leadership. Now, to tell the truth, I have begun to seriously address the issue of which section of society requires the services of a psychiatrist. The contest for a seizure of rationality is now so polarized that I am quite reconciled to the fact it could be those of us on this side, not the opposing school of thought that ought to declare ourselves candidates for a lunatic asylum. So be it. While that decision hangs in the balance however, the forum is open. Let both sides continue to address our cases to the electorate, but also prepare to submit ourselves for psychiatric examination.


The time being so close to electoral decision, we can understand the haste of some to resort to shortcuts. In the process however, we should not commit the error of opening the political space to any alternative whose curative touch to national afflictions have proven more deadly than the disease. In order to reduce the clutter in our options towards the forthcoming elections, we urge a beginning from what we do know, what we have undergone, what millions can verify, what can be sustained by evidence accessible even to the school pupil, the street hawker or a just-come visitor from outer space. Leaving Buhari aside for now, I propose a commencing exercise that should guide us along the path of elimination as we examine the existing register of would-be president. That initial exercise can be summed up in the following speculation: “If it were possible for Olusegun Obasanjo, the actual incumbent, to stand again for election, would you vote for him?”

If the answer is “yes”, then of course all discussion is at an end. If the answer is ‘No’ however, then it follows that a choice of a successor made by Obasanjo should be assessed as hovering between extremely dangerous and an outright kiss of death. The degree of acceptability of such a candidate should also be inversely proportionate to the passion with which he or she is promoted by the would-be ‘godfather’. We do not lack for open evidence about Obasanjo’s passion in this respect. From Lagos to the USA, he has taken great pains to assure the nation and the world that the anointed NPN presidential flag bearer is guaranteed, in his judgment, to carry out his policies. Such an endorsement/anointment is more than sufficient, in my view, for public acceptance or rejection. Yar’Adua’s candidature amounts to a terminal kiss from a moribund regime. Nothing against the person of this – I am informed - personable governor, but let him understand that in addition to the direct source of his emergence, the PDP, on whose platform he stands, represents the most harrowing of this nation’s nightmares over and beyond even the horrors of the Abacha regime. If he wishes to be considered on his own merit, now is time for him, as well as others similarly enmeshed, to exercise the moral courage that goes with his repudiation of that party, a dissociation from its past, and a pledge to reverse its menacing future. We shall find him an alternative platform on which to stand, and then have him present his credentials along those of other candidates engaged in forging a credible opposition alliance. Until then, let us bury this particular proposition and move on to a far graver, looming danger, personified in the history of General Buhari.


The grounds on which General Buhari is being promoted as the alternative choice are not only shaky, but pitifully naive. History matters. Records are not kept simply to assist the weakness of memory, but to operate as guides to the future. Of course, we know that human beings change. What the claims of personality change or transformation impose on us is a rigorous inspection of the evidence, not wishful speculation or behind-the-scenes assurances. Public offence, crimes against a polity, must be answered in the public space, not in caucuses of bargaining. In Buhari, we have been offered no evidence of the sheerest prospect of change. On the contrary, all evident suggests that this is one individual who remains convinced that this is one ex-ruler that the nation cannot call to order.

Buhari – need one remind anyone - was one of the generals who treated a Commission of Enquiry, the Oputa Panel, with unconcealed disdain. Like Babangida and Abdusalami, he refused to put in appearance even though complaints that were tabled against him involved a career of gross abuses of power and blatant assault on the fundamental human rights of the Nigerian citizenry.

Prominent against these charges was an act that amounted to nothing less than judicial murder, the execution of a citizen under a retroactive decree. Does Decree 20 ring a bell? If not, then, perhaps the names of three youths - Lawal Ojuolape (30), Bernard Ogedengbe (29) and Bartholomew Owoh (26) do. To put it quite plainly, one of those three – Ogedengbe - was executed for a crime that did not carry a capital forfeit at the time it was committed. This was an unconscionable crime, carried out in defiance of the pleas and protests of nearly every sector of the Nigerian and international community – religious, civil rights, political, trade unions etc. Buhari and his sidekick and his partner-in-crime, Tunde Idiagbon persisted in this inhuman act for one reason and one reason only: to place Nigerians on notice that they were now under an iron, inflexible rule, under governance by fear.

The execution of that youthful innocent – for so he was, since the punishment did not exist at the time of commission - was nothing short of premeditated murder, for which the perpetrators should normally stand trial upon their loss of immunity. Are we truly expected to forget this violation of our entitlement to security as provided under existing laws? And even if our sensibilities have become blunted by succeeding seasons of cruelty and brutality, if power itself had so coarsened the sensibilities also of rulers and corrupted their judgment, what should one rightly expect after they have been rescued from the snare of power” At the very least, a revaluation, leading hopefully to remorse, and its expression to a wronged society. At the very least, such a revaluation should engender reticence, silence. In the case of Buhari, it was the opposite. Since leaving office he has declared in the most categorical terms that he had no regrets over this murder and would do so again.


Human life is inviolate. The right to life is the uniquely fundamental right on which all other rights are based. The crime that General Buhari committed against the entire nation went further however, inconceivable as it might first appear. That crime is one of the most profound negations of civic being. Not content with hammering down the freedom of expression in general terms, Buhari specifically forbade all public discussion of a return to civilian, democratic rule. Let us constantly applaud our media – those battle scarred professionals did not completely knuckle down. They resorted to cartoons and oblique, elliptical references to sustain the people’s campaign for a time-table to democratic rule. Overt agitation for a democratic time table however remained rigorously suppressed – military dictatorship, and a specifically incorporated in Buhari and Idiagbon was here to stay. To deprive a people of volition in their own political direction is to turn a nation into a colony of slaves. Buhari enslaved the nation. He gloated and gloried in a master-slave relation to the millions of its inhabitants. It is astonishing to find that the same former slaves, now free of their chains, should clamour to be ruled by one who not only turned their nation into a slave plantation, but forbade them any discussion of their condition.


So Tai Solarin is already forgotten? Tai who stood at street corners, fearlessly distributing leaflets that took up the gauntlet where the media had dropped it. Tai who was incarcerated by that regime and denied even the medication for his asthmatic condition? Tai did not ask to be sent for treatment overseas; all he asked was his traditional medicine that had proved so effective after years of struggle with asthma!


Nor must we omit the manner of Buhari coming to power and the pattern of his ‘corrective’ rule. Shagari’s NPN had already run out of steam and was near universally detested – except of course by the handful that still benefited from that regime of profligacy and rabid fascism. Responsibility for the national condition lay squarely at the door of the ruling party, obviously, but against whom was Buhari’s coup staged? Judging by the conduct of that regime, it was not against Shagari’s government but against the opposition. The head of government, on whom primary responsibility lay, was Shehu Shagari. Yet that individual was kept in cozy house detention in Ikoyi while his powerless deputy, Alex Ekwueme, was locked up in Kiri-kiri prisons. Such was the Buhari notion of equitable apportionment of guilt and/or responsibility.


And then the cascade of escapes of the wanted, and culpable politicians. Manhunts across the length and breadth of the nation, roadblocks everywhere and borders tight as steel zip locks. Lo and behold, the chairman of the party, Chief Akinloye, strolled out coolly across the border. Richard Akinjide, Legal Protector of the ruling party, slipped out with equal ease. The Rice Minister, Umaru Dikko, who declared that Nigerians were yet to eat from dustbins - escaped through the same airtight dragnet. The clumsy attempt to crate him home was punishment for his ingratitude, since he went berserk when, after waiting in vain, he concluded that the coup had not been staged, after all, for the immediate consolidation of the party of extreme right-wing vultures, but for the military hyenas.


The case of the overbearing Secretary-General of the party, Uba Ahmed, was even more noxious. Uba Ahmed was out of the country at the time. Despite the closure of the Nigerian airspace, he compelled the pilot of his plane to demand special landing permission, since his passenger load included the almighty Uba Ahmed. Of course, he had not known of the change in his status since he was airborne. The delighted airport commandant, realizing that he had a much valued fish swimming willingly into a waiting net, approved the request. Uba Ahmed disembarked into the arms of a military guard and was promptly clamped in detention. Incredibly, he vanished a few days after and reappeared in safety overseas. Those whose memories have become calcified should explore the media coverage of that saga. Buhari was asked to explain the vanished act of this much prized quarry and his response was one of the most arrogant levity. Coming from one who had shot his way into power on the slogan of ‘dis’pline’, it was nothing short of impudent.


Shall we revisit the tragicomic series of trials that landed several politicians several lifetimes in prison? Recall, if you please, the ‘judicial’ processes undergone by the septuagenarian Chief Adekunle Ajasin. He was arraigned and tried before Buhari’s punitive tribunal but acquitted. Dissatisfied, Buhari ordered his re-trial. Again, the Tribunal could not find this man guilty of a single crime, so once again he was returned for trial, only to be acquitted of all charges of corruption or abuse of office. Was Chief Ajasin thereby released? No! He was ordered detained indefinitely, simply for the crime of winning an election and refusing to knuckle under Shagari’s reign of terror.

The conduct of the Buhari regime after his coup was not merely one of double, triple, multiple standards but a cynical travesty of justice. Audu Ogbeh, currently chairman of the Action Congress was one of the few figures of rectitude within the NPN. Just as he has done in recent times with the PDP, he played the role of an internal critic and reformer, warning, dissenting, and setting an example of probity within his ministry. For that crime he spent months in unjust incarceration. Guilty by association? Well, if that was the motivating yardstick of the administration of the Buhari justice, then it was most selectively applied. The utmost severity of the Buhari-Idiagbon justice was especially reserved either for the opposition in general, or for those within the ruling party who had showed the sheerest sense of responsibility and patriotism.


Shall I remind this nation of Buhari’s deliberate humiliating treatment of the Emir of Kano and the Oni of Ife over their visit to the state of Israel? I hold no brief for traditional rulers and their relationship with governments, but insist on regarding them as entitled to all the rights, privileges and responsibilities of any Nigerian citizen. This royal duo went to Israel on their private steam and private business. Simply because the Buhari regime was pursuing some antagonistic foreign policy towards Israel, a policy of which these traditional rulers were not a part, they were subjected on their return to a treatment that could only be described as a head masterly chastisement of errant pupils. Since when, may one ask, did a free citizen of the Nigerian nation require the permission of a head of state to visit a foreign nation that was willing to offer that tourist a visa.?


One is only too aware that some Nigerians love to point to Buhari’s agenda of discipline as the shining jewel in his scrap-iron crown. To inculcate discipline however, one must lead by example, obeying laws set down as guides to public probity. Example speaks louder than declarations, and rulers cannot exempt themselves from the disciplinary strictures imposed on the overall polity, especially on any issue that seeks to establish a policy for public well-being. The story of the thirty something suitcases – it would appear that they were even closer to fifty - found unavoidable mention in my recent memoirs, YOU MUST SET FORTH AT DOWN, written long before Buhari became spoken of as a credible candidate. For the exercise of a changeover of the national currency, the Nigerian borders – air, sea and land – had been shut tight. Nothing was supposed to move in or out, not even cattle egrets.


Yet a prominent camel was allowed through that needle’s eye. Not only did Buhari dispatch his aide-de-camp, Jokolo – later to become an emir - to facilitate the entry of those cases, he ordered the redeployment – as I later discovered - of the Customs Officer who stood firmly against the entry of the contravening baggage. That officer, the incumbent Vice-president is now a rival candidate to Buhari, but has somehow, in the meantime, earned a reputation that totally contradicts his conduct at the time. Wherever the truth lies, it does not redound to the credibility of the dictator of that time, General Buhari whose word was law, but whose allegiances were clearly negotiable.




http://saharareporters.com/2007/01/14/crimes-buhari-wole-soyinka

[quote author=ayindejimmy post=27151421]i'll luv 2 xcuse ur coment based on d fact d u were nt of reason age at d time of Buhari's govt.But I wnt. Bicos u can google all u need 2 knw. U clearly dnt knw the officers dat actualy pland d coup. And u obvously didnt grasp hw seriously his govt took d issue of coruptn.
Wit al our resources nd wealth y do u tink d masses aint feeln d impact? Coruptn.
Thats wat we wanna fite nw

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As usual, the lame excuse of other officers planned the coup and invited Buhari to come and become President. A man of INTEGRITY that you guys claim that he is, why didn't he reject the offer since he knew that he was going against the Constitution. Buhari has to apologise for kicking out a properly elected government. Spin it the way you want, even a receiver of stolen goods is a thief let alone the chief beneficiary of a coup plot. He committed a crime. Coup plotting is a crime. Knowing about a coup an not reporting is a crime. Why was Senator Chris Anyanwu jailed for the 1995 failed coup plot alongside Gwadabe et al? I hope you know that Buhari would have been jailed or executed if the coup had failed.

I wish that meetings of some of the planning of the coup in Buhari's Jos residence were recorded. That was how Adisa, Diya et al were denying their participation in the coup to topple the criminal Abacha until Mustapha came up with video evidence. And if not for that evidence, the media would have been telling us that it was a 'phantom coup'. But 'when breeze blew, we come see fowl n..sh.

And even when he was 'invited' why did he not put machinery in motion to hand over to civillians? For 20 months all he did was to find ways of perpetuating his illegal government in power until his fellow criminal kicked him out. Don't tell me that 20 months isn't enough to midwife a transition programme. Another criminal, Abdulsam Abubakar did it in 9 months.

And please make your point without innuendos, it does not show integrity for someone who was 'of reason age' in December 1983 when Buhari and his band of criminals kicked out a duly elected government.

=glory2glory post=27148048]

How has the new brigade of Gej moved Nigeria forward. Did you read the article at all? Can you compare Buhari's achievements to Gej 6 years .
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When have stealing power with a gun,tearing the Constitution and spiting on it, planning to be a life head of state( as his regime made no plan to return power to civilians) and jailing people on trumped up charges become an achievement? Maybe, we need to redefine achievement.

Buhari achieved nothing in his 20 months reign. He only took us back 50 years.

@nuclearboy,

Throw insults about, that us how you supporters of Buhari do. I won't insult you. As usual, I will demolish you with facts.
1. Just do a google search on 'The crimes of Buhari' by Wole Soyinka. Besides, plotting a coup is disloyalty to the C-in-C and the Constitution. It is a crime. And I have yet to see where crime is honesty. Please don't tell me the now hackneyed defence of Buhari was not part of the coup plotters.
2. Ike Nwachukwu was the sole administrator of Imo State during Buhari's time. And all he did was to steal Imo State dry with his cronies, messing up all good Mbakwe did. This is just one example.
3. A visionary government uses imaginative means arrest hoarding. If the government did its beat, goods hoarded would have become useless and the 'hoarder' would lose. Each state had a marketing board then, all that was needed was for the government to flood the country with the hoarded goods through the marketing boards. But the dictators in power with no ideas went about lumping all importers together and killing people's businesses even when there was no effort to boost local manufacturing. Many warehouses were touched by these animals in human skin even when goods found in the warehouse were not imported. I know of one distributor of Unilever whose warehouse was looted by these guys. OMO detergent was stored there and thesw soldiers came around, opened the warehouse and attempted to sale the ware below cost price. The owner was begging them, telling them that he never sold anything above the recommended price by Unilever and even asked the soldiers to ask around from people who bought from him or from Unilever. His appeal fell on deaf ears. Worse still, the man was beaten black and blue by the soldiers in front of his family and the public.What saved this man was that he was a kind man. People refused to bu from the soldiers. At the end, they left but not without some loot.

3. You are the one having problem with Stockholm syndrome. You appear to have become so used to dictatorship that you appear to believe that the only way to resolve issue is through bullying. Please travel out and you find people who bully civilians are JAILED and not praised. Where I live, three policemen I don't know why you have to subscribe to soldiers bullying civillians on the road in the name of tough times requires tough actions. That is not a civilised way of resolving issues.

4. If you want to sell your dictator you should learn how to marshall your points without insulting people. A teen in 1983 is getting closer to 50 now. If at close to 50 you still insult people in an attempt to win argument I don't know what we should be telling today's teens

APC will lower education standard








....adapted from Yobe State Unity School cut off mark of 2

Is it not the same way some people are telling us that Buhari is the only one who can save Nigeria.


And lest I forget, Buhari saw nothing wrong with YEAA! Anyway, he couldn't have. He was Abacha's Man Friday.

@=nuclearboy

Is taking part in illegality is also part of honesty? Restating something does not make it true. Dispute my points rather than make Prof the benchmark for honesty. It is not for me to say how honest the Prof is. He said Buhari is honest and Wole Soyinka said Buhari isn't. Now,it is left to you to choose who is or isnt.

I don't expect TDW to tell me about the evils of
Buhari's regime because he was part of it. But as a kid under the age of 8 I witnessed the evils. I saw soldiers kneeling people down and flogging them for not knowing the wordings of the second stanza of the national anthem. I soldiers forcefully entering warehouses to cart away goods and accusing the owners of hoarding. I heard stories of military administrators looting their states dry why our 'incorruptible' maximum ruler looked the other way.

TDW did not see anything wrong with the gross violation of human rights at the time. He did not see anything wrong with STEALING leadership with a gun. He saw nothing wrong in jailing people like Alex Ekwueme on trumped up charges even when Justice Uwaifo panel EXONERATED him and made the famous statement that politics made Ekwueme poorer.
He did not see anything wrong with serving under a government that had no plans of returning power to civillians. For 20 months Buhari held sway, he never mooted the idea of returning power to civilians. Like Abacha, Buhari wanted to be life President until his brother criminal kicked him out. Need I remind you that it took the other criminal, Abdulsalam Abubakar, just 9 months to conduct elections?

It is a shame that young people should be supporting the return to power of those who kept Nigeria in it's current state. Buhari is part of the old brigade. Somebody who achieved nothing as a ruler when he was younger cannot achieve nothing as a ruler in his old age.

Hahaha...I respect the eminent professor of virology. But what do you expect from a Buhari apologist? Give it to him, he has been a die-hard Buhari supporter even before Buhari joined party politics. But why won't he?


In the first place, Buhari's regime was an illegality. No patriot legitimises illegitimacy.

He has reeled out the names of those over 70 who were Presidents. But he avoided telling us that none of those guys sacked a legitimate government. None of those guys ruled as dictators and sought to return to power after over 30 years.

Apart from Reagan, none of the oldies achieved
much. And Reagan did because of the strong systems of the US. He was not a dictator. Mandela's presidency was symbolic. He did not achieve much as a President. But at that time South Africa needed him for the healing of old wounds.

Don't even mention Biya, Museveni et al. Is that what the venerable professor wish for us?

On the suit cases, whether they were 12 or 100 is immaterial. The main thing was the hypocricy in the whole stuff. The order was that nothing shoul come into the country. But alas! Suitcases of the Czar's aides came in. Nobel Laurette, Soyinka aptly captured this story in one of his essays sometime ago titled 'The crimes of Buhari' (I hope I am right about the title).

On PTF, I have said it severally that the fund marginalised the South East and Akwa Ibom in road projects. I also know that it didnt do any road project in A/Ibom. I don't know of expired drugs. PTF bought drugs for hospitals in the South East. Yes, it did. But how much were the drugs compared to roads? If the fund had built dialysis centers and the likes it would have been far better. Not buying phensic, ascorbic acid, tetracyclin and panadol.

I didnt expect anything less from the Prof. If Mustapha were to write a book or essay on Abacha, we all would have thought that Abacha was St Gabriel. Lest I forget, Buhari himself canonised Abacha. Didn't he tell us sometime ago that Abacha was an honest dude?

Prof should be tired of doing this type of piece every four years before elections.

Hahahaha....another coupist-supporting thread. Certainly, the criminal must have paid well last weekend, hence his boys have been running amok on Nairaland since yesterday.

Buhari should be in jail for his sins and not in Aso- Rock.

Fare thee well the great Prof. The world knows that you were here.

Vote Jimmy Carter and Rick Perry for President/ Vice President in 2016.

Sons of Babylons who see nothing bad in coup plotting will always label anyone against Buhari's desperation and inordinate ambition a Jonathanian.

While there is no Buhari on the thread, we know the antics of Buhari apologists. We know when they create threads aimed at deodorising the rotten image of their pay master who was stopped by another coupist from becoming a life President.

Have you ever seen me praising Jonathan? Go through my posts on Nairaland you will never find that. I am only against Buhari and all he stands for. I am against hus hypocricy and deceit. This man truncated our evolution for crying out aloud. I choose not to go with Nigeria's enemy No 1.

Call me anything you like but it does not counter the fact that your pay master's image needs fumigation and not deoderisation.

He has. I mean if Keshi took the advice he probably would not have been in this mess. But he saw and still sees everyone as an enemy after his job.

These sons of Babylon are at it again. It seems Buhari paid very well last weekend because I have seen about four sympathetic threads opened for him just today by the sons of Babylon. Enjoy yourselves. It's your share of the PTF money; our 'national cake'.

But then, what causes the he-goat to smell is inside the he-goat. Buhari's anti democracy credentials are there for everyone to see. He is a criminal who should either be serving life jail or killed long ago for leading a group of cowards to subvert the will of the people. Cowards who left their primary responsibility to pursue filty lucre. That criminal act in 1983 took us over three decades back. We have continued to play catch-up since then.


A criminal is a criminal. Buhari is a criminal. Nigerians cannot allow a man of no vision, a man with no digital idea, a criminal par exellence to rule us in this 21st Century. We can't return to the days of lack of vision. It's like the Brits being ruled by John Major.



No way!

Another thread to deodorise the image of the criminal coup plotter who wanted to be a life president until his fellow coupist stopped him in August 1985.

His anti democracy credentials are sterling. Nigerians won't allow you sons of retrogression to take us back to Babylon.

Oliseh has been vindicated afterall.

Another thread opened to launder the image of a criminal who should have been executed. A bandit who subverted the will of the people through naked brigandage. He planned to be a life head of state. For 20 months he never mooted the idea of returning power to the people until his fellow brigand shoved him aside.

Deoderize his image all you can, that stench of criminality, despotism and dictatorship will persist.


They now say he was not part of the planning of the coup. Tell that to the marines! He was part of it full time. He knew about it, he made inputs and several meetings were held in his house to finetune the plan. Domkat Bali, his comrade at arms said so. Only those who do not know Nigerian military history and how the military works in Nigeria will attempt to exonorate this inordinatly ambitious and desperate surplanter from the December 31 1983 coup.


Full of deceit, he was not loyal to his C-in-C. He deceived Shagari that all was well-just like Joe Garba deceived Gowon- only to overthrow Shahari and take his position.

Deceit is not one of the synonyms of integrity

[quote author=AnanseK post=26912492]So why are these complaints ? If not bloody mindedness? Have you been to the New Enugu in kano? Can anybody come to the east and be given such hospitality?
To answer your question, yes I have passed through Abriba from umuahia on my way to arochukwu.
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Ever heard of Alhaji Umaru Altine aka Baba Ngiri? He was the first ELECTED mayor of Enugu and he won an Igbo man in the election. So, if a norther can win election in the heart of Igboland I wonder what you mean by hospitality. In the 1988 zero party election, Alhaji Bako contested for the chairmanship of the then Umuahia local government area and came second. He was an Umuahia-based millionaire.

The problem with many of you is that you think non indigenes do not live in the SE. I am from the South-South but with an Igbo mother. I was born and bred in Aba and I know that there are many non-indigenes from all parts of Nigeria living 'large' in the SE. In Ariaria market, there is a line called 'Yoruba/Lagos line'. It's just our Yoruba brothers that are in charge there and many of them have lived in Aba many years and rarely visit home. One of my classmates in primary school was Funke Adebayo. There was also Toyin Adejuwon. These ones were more Igbo than many Igbos.

So, you sure do not know about the Igbo and hospitality. And hospitality and Northerners are not best of friends. Of course, you know that evidence aboud for this.

I have not been to new Enugu. But I have been to Kano-perhaps to interior places you have never been. I have been to Rimin Gado, Karei, Dawokin Tofa, Gwarzo, Kabo LGAs etc. I have lived in Lamido Crescent in Nasarawa GRA with my elder bros. But that was about 15 years ago. Bar the violence, Kano and the whole north are good places to live. But killing people without any provocation cannot be hospitality.


Now, if you have been to ( or passed through) Abriba, you cannot be saying Igbos build mansions they cannot build in their states.

=AnanseK

2nd Point of correction

2. The south east was never marginalized by PTF , the only area they had problem was roads and the reason is Igbo greed.
Each zone of the country has a trustee representative on PTF Board. Buhari advised that all road construction be done by well known international companies like Julius Berger. All the trustees , chief Rufus Giwa for SW , Professor Clark for SS ( not Edwin Clark ) , chief D.B. Zang for North Central, Yahaya Gusau for NW , Ahmad Talib for NE agreed for that but Professor Chimere Ikoku for SE insisted on bringing his own local contractors to do the SE roads. They never did it and Ikoku was eventually murdered. Please go and study the history well.even as Buhari was trying to make further provision to replace those Ikoku's contractors , PTF was scrapped.


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HAHHAHAHAHAHA

ANOTHER FINE POINT.


But seriously, did you read what you typed here?


The almighty Buhari of PTF with absolute execitive powers, the ever strict and rigid no-nonesense Buhari who does not tolorate corruption gave orders and Ikoku defied him and brought his cronnies? So Buhari is such a weakling?


Please don't tell a lie against the dead.

Meanwhile we are not even talking about roads done by reputable or non reputable construction firms here. The point is that the SE did not even see those done by non reputable local contractors. To be fair, the Abriba- Uzuakoli Rd in Abia, the only one done by PTF, was solid when I plied it around 1999. I do not know whether it was local or foreign firm that did it. I have not been there since then so I do not know how it is now.

Meanwhile know that Buhari was the person approving PTF contracts. He was the alpha and omega of PTF. Not any trustee. Can you please tell me the PTF road in Akwa Ibom?

[quote author=AnanseK post=26912031]Point of Correction no 3
3. The money PTF was using was a taxation for purchase of petrol at the pump by motorists. Any body who buys a liter of petrol at petrol station was paying about 3.5 kobo per liter into PTF account. So it's wrong to say the money was from certain regions or states. More fuel is bought by motorists in lagos than in Bayelsa or akwa Ibom. So lagos citizens through purchase of petrol contributed more to the fund than those states.we are advising the government to use similar taxation on mobile telephone call payments to finance development projects. But you know this government cannot be trusted.



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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


I like your logic. Clap for your self. So where did the petrol come from before motorists who used it were taxed? From Kano?

AnanseK

It's only in kano that you have a high brow extensive development area in the city in Dawanau named NEW ENUGU . In this new city within kano mainly the citizens of SE are building like there is no tomorrow. You will think you are in Maitama in Abuja when you go to new Enugu in kano. The plots are given to them at no real cost by Kwankwaso but here nobody will mention it. Those who cannot have the piece of land to build even one room in the east building mansions surrounded by limitless courtyards in kano.
When we know that northerners are living under constant harassment in the south East - only recently their market in Onitsha was completely destroyed. I don't know why igbos are so bloody minded and will always lie thru their teeth to claim that they are victims. What sad situation when you have to live with such scam.

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I WILL APPRECIATE IF YOU WILL PROVIDE ANY LINK TO SHOW WHERE IGBOS HAVE ATTACKED NORTHERNERS UNPROVOKED IN THE SOUTH EAST.

CAN WE COUNT HOW MANY TIMES SOUTHERNERS ARE ATTACKED IN THE NORTH?

Remember Reihand Bonke riots of 1991? Remember the behading of Akaluka in 1995? Remember the killing of Yorubas in Kano in 1999? I guess Matatsine was Igbo. I guess Boko Haram are Igbo. I guess El Zaki Zaki was Igbo. Do you still remember the killing of innocent people because of a catoon in far away Denmark? Do you still remember the actions of Buhari boys after Buhari lost election in 2011? You seem to have selective amnesia. Your people kill even without provocation.

You can accuse the Igbos of anything but not treating their guests badly. I will wait for your link to when Igbos woke up one day and started harrassing and killing non-Igbos in the SE because of a cartoon in Cameroon or a beauty peagent or a religious crusade.

I hope you know that such links about northerners abound.


YOU TALK ABOUT IGBOS WHO CANNOT BUILD IN THE SE BUILDING MANSIONS IN UR NEW ENUGU IN KANO.


HAHAHAHAHA


You sure need to travel and see. If I do not know much about the Igbo, I know, at least, that you are not regarded as anything if you don't build a house in your village. Any body you see building in your NEW ENUGU has a better mansion as his country home. Ever heard of Abriba or Awka Etiti? Visit these VILLAGES and come back let's debate.

AnanseK: Point of correction.
The writer demonstrated Either deliberate distortion of facts or total ignorance in his article.
1. South East got the same share of work from PTF and the drugs were from our indigenous companies who were encouraged and financed by PTF to develop quality expanded manufacturing capacity. All the indigenous manufacturers benefitted immensely. 95% of all the manufacturers were from the south 90% from Ikeja ,Agbara and Sango Otta in Lagos and Ogun State. Some in Enugu , Calabar and Aba with one or two in jos and Kano. There was no drug manufacturer in Katsina state where Buhari came from. But Buhari's aim was to strengthen quality essential drug manufacture in Nigeria and it didn't have to be in katsina. It was a success that none of the later leaders chose to follow up or to replicate. GEJ doesn't give a damn about quality drugs or their manufacture in Nigeria.

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OGA ABOVE,

THE WRITER DID NOT DISTORT ANY FACT. YOU PROBABALY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE ARTICLE. THE WRITER IS NOT THE FIRST PERSON TO SAY THAT BUHARI'S PTF MARGINALISED THE SOUTH EAST IN TERMS OF PROJECTS.EVEN IN THE DAYS OF PTF IT WAS AN ISSUE. PLEASE WE ARE TALKING FACTS HERE. I, PERSONALLY, HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS SAME THING HERE FOR ASOME TIME NOW. GO THROUGH MY PREVIOUS POSTS. TELL ME ONE ROAD PROJECT BAR THE ABRIBA UZUAKOLI ROAD IN ABIA STATE THAT PTF EXECUTED IN THE SE. TELL ME ONE IN AKWA IBOM THAT PTF EXECUTED.

YES DRUGS WERE BOUGHT FOR SOME HOSPITALS IN THE SE. BUT HOW MUCH DO DRUGS COST COMPARED TO ROADS. RICH MEN IN THE SE CONSTANTLY DONATE DRUGS TO HOSPITALS.

iluvnaija: How old are you? Where you told all these lies or you are paid to discredit Buhari?

Your lies can't change my views about Buhari, I have seen facts about him. Buhari is better than the politicians you worship today. Nigeria politicians are all thieves.
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THE GUY ABOVE, PROBABLY YOU ARE THE ONE PAID BY BUHARI.

PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTIONS:

1. IS BUHARI NOT A CRIMINAL?
2. DID BUHARI NOT RULE THE SAME TIME WITH REAGAN AND THATCHER?
3. IN BUHARI'S 20 MONTHS REIGN DID HE AT ANY TIME MOOT THE IDEA OF HANDING OVER TO CIVILLIANS?



I THINK IT IS GOOD TO ARGUE WITH FACTS NOT FICTION. BECAUSE YOU ARE PAID TO SUPPORT BUHARI DOES NOT MEAN ANYBODY WHO DOES NOT AGREE WITH YOU ON BUHARI IS PAID. I WITNESSED HIS REGIME AND ITS ABUSES. SO, I DON'T DO HEARSAY.

WHEN YOU ANSWER THE ABOVE QUESTIONS WE CAN DEBATE.

Both Buhari and IBB are criminals who should have been executed or jailed for life.

Unfortunately, those who have made Buhari god think otherwise, thus legitimising criminality.

SMH! Repackaging a criminal who achieved nothing 30 years ago. Have we forgotten that this man who planned to be a life Head of State was in power the same time with late Maggie Thatcher and Ronald Reagan?

I visited Kano last in 2006 on my way Damaturu, lodging in Tahir Guest House, Nasarawa GRA. I took out time then to visit the famous Sabon Gari. From the popular Bata junction, I went to France Road. I noticed that Sabon Gari was brimming with business activities but was clearly marginalized. I have heard that Kwakwanso has been improving the aesthetics of Kano now. But it is unfortunate that a place as important as Sabon Gari is not part of his Kano.


On Buhari, I have been saying it that his PTF did next to nothing in the South East-apart from buying cheap drugs for few hospitals. Buhari clearly marginalised the South East-and even the South-South. At least, I know his PTF executed little or no project in Akwa Ibom. Interestingly, the money PTF was 'flexing' with was got from these areas. How else can we describe unfairness?

One guy up here said GEJ has also been unfair as he has been siting all his projects in the SE and SS. I think the pro-APC online forces should be consistent in their arguments. In one of the Igbo-bashing threads that have been increasing by the day, you guys wondered why Igbos should support GEJ despite his failure to reciprocate with projects in Igbo land. Now, you guys are saying the exact opposite.

Which one we go take now?

INSULT. That is the only thing on the manifesto of APC.

Unfortunately, they can't do better. It's flagship state, Lagos, despite its huge IGR and monthly allocation, cannot even provide potable water of residents. Majority of the people living in Lagos dig wells in their compounds. The privileged ones sink boreholes. Yet, they want us to believe that they are the hope of Nigeria.

Until APC starts telling us what they can do better and how, it will continue to play second fiddle until it disintegrates in 2019. Already, Nigerians are fatigued by the party's propaganda.

The OP thinks he can blackmail Igbos into supporting the criminal, inordinately ambitious despot, Buhari. The man who should have been executed or jailed for subverting the will of the people and using the gun to take over power. Just like anyone from any part of the country, any Igbo is free to support whom he wants support. One or two Igbos had supported Buhari in his past futile attempts at the presidency and a few are still supporting him. But only horsetrading and engagement with the Igbo people can give him the votes he strongly craves. Blackmail cannot.

Unfortunately, Buhari, knowing that his Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF) -during the Abacha- days did not execute any meaningful project in the South East, cannot have any honest engagement with the Igbo. Hence he and his supporters are resorting to blackmail. For the records, the much PTF did in the South East were the few cheap drugs it bought for hospitals....when road projects spanning thousands of kilometres were executed by the fund in the north, particularly in his Northwest. I know this because I did my NYSC in Sokoto during the PTF days. Apart from Sokoto, I visited Kaduna, Katstina, Zamfara, Kebbi, Kano, Jigawa then. So, I know what I am talking about. While I do not know much of what PTF did in other South-south states, I know for sure that it also did little or nothing in Akwa Ibom State.

By the way, the OP is a coward and a bigot, a real one. One he is not Igbo and can never be. This was indicated by the way he wrote 'Chukwu Emeka', instead of 'Chukwuemeka'. It was only after some people busted that that he modified the name to 'Chukwuemeka'. I am only half Igbo and from my knowledge of Igbo people and their culture, Emeka is rarely a surname. In fact, Emeka cannot even stand on its own as it means nothing without adding Chi, Chukwu or Nna. That 'fortunate' error gave out the OP as a bigoted coward who cannot be bold enough to say what he wants to say without impersonating.

Your Buhari, who is allergic to party primaries and democracy, is a serial failure and he will fail again. He has the Atiku and Kwakwanso hurdle to scale first. Already, he is exhibiting his anti-democratic tendencies again by angling to be chosen as a consensus candidate by his party--even when he is not the owner and founder of the party. Don't tell me that PDP has chosen GEJ as its consensus candidate. Yes, there is nothing wrong with that. He is the President and he should have that honour. We patterned our system of government after that of the US and since 1916 no serving American President has gone through primaries. Besides, GEJ did go through primaries in 2011. So the criminal coupist, Buhari, should show his democratic credentials by going through primaries for once in his life.

The attempts by the likes of OP to deify Buhari causes him to have a messiac complex, that feeling that he is the only one who can save Nigeria. Pray! how can a man who has no vision and ideas save Nigeria? Here is a man who took us 50 years back by truncating our democratic evolution in 1983. In the 20 months he held sway he had no concrete plan to hand over to a civillian government. His plan was to be a life Head of State before his co-traveller, IBB stopped him through the August 1985 coup. Don't tell me 20 months in office was not enough for a transition programme. Abdulsalam showed that it was even too much by conducting elections and handing over to civilians in just 9 months. Even IBB and Abacha indicated their willingness to conduct elections.

Buhari never did!

Why not respond to my comment rather than resort to insult? Anybody who does not agree with your view is PDP. Which history has been twisted here?


The questions you have to answer are these:

*Was Buhari loyal to Shagari?

*Did Buhari plan a coup or benefit from a coup plot?

* Did Buhari not give Shagari the impression that all was well?



You can only market Buhari to the gullible. Subverting the will of the people with gun is not integrity. It is deception. It is criminal. Thus, Buhari is a criminal. He knows very well that if his coup had failedhe would have been shot dead like Dimka before him and Vasta and Orkar afterhim.

I don't get it when people say Buhari is an upright man. A man who betrayed his C-in-C whom he is supposed to be loyal to can never be upright. His C-in-C trusted him but out of greed and inordinate ambition he betrayed his C-in-C to become head of state.

Truth is truth. It has no other name. Buhari is full of deceit- Ask Shehu Shagari. Deciet is not truth. Wash Buhari all you like- even with Arabian perfume-you can remove his deceitful nature.

The stench of the he-goat resides in the he-goat.