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I worked as a store keeper some years ago in an hospital, based on my experience and what I have gathered from all threads relating to the health sector, practices in other countries and what I think is best for patients (all of us will one day visit these guys) these are my submissions.

Doctors should learn to tolerate other health practitioners, yes, they are at the centre but should give due regards to others because they are health ''professionals'' just like you, they are specialists in their own fields but you don't see them as such, they are not subordinates or juniors, let everybody do his or her professional jobs as obtainable all over the world. I once read in one thread where some young doctors boast that if all other health professionals go on strike, they can do their jobs. is that statement professional? obviously not ethical. Every body has gone through a rigorous academic struggle to bear what he/she bears today. It is not easy to study even languages in the higher institution, if you need to know more ask the foreign students (whites) studying Yoruba in the University of Ibadan.
Doctors cannot do works of Pharmacists, Lab Scientists or Nurses, lawyers, accountants, soldiers, because they already have so much in their hands, they should concentrate on their own responsibilities and how to develop their field with new inventions, they should stop blocking or preventing other health professionals from improving their performance through inventions and getting to the peak or top of their professions/career as it is done in other parts of the world. Why should the doctors be dictating how much other health professionals should be paid or what type of degrees higher institutions should award to other health professionals when each profession has its regulatory bodies enacted by law. I guess other health professionals came together as JOHESU to curb excesses of the medical doctors because they are all affected by the attitudes of doctors and it will be to the advantage of the patients if such issues are not addressed. I respect doctors (my blood brother is one, my fiancée also a medical student), pharmacists, nurses, etc and each of them should also respect one another. Medical Doctors have been through a lot in the universities but I believe they should not expect to get all their rewards in life, because health sector requires sacrifices to the community which I want to believe is the reason why many of them joined the profession in the first place. If the federal government gives them all their demands what more sacrifice will they say they are making. All professionals in any sector are important, the nose cannot do the work of the eyes perfectly and vice-versa, nurses are to work with and assist the doctors but they are not under the doctors, they are not slaves to them, when you go to the hospital at anytime of the day it is the nurses that you meet, they will tell you the doctor is not yet around, they do most of the necessary things before the doctors come, now imagine what will happen to the patients if they are also not available yet doctors don't regard nurses. Laboratory scientists carry out tests to remove doctors doubt over diagnosis, Pharmacists are custodian of drugs and how it should be used properly, doctors diagnose and also advise the patients how the disease should be treated, etc all of you guys compliment one another, why the beef?. Title is nothing if you have passion for what you do

The world is changing, things are invented now based on the need for them, let any qualified pharmacist be called ''a doctor'' as long as he has gotten the needed knowledge to be so called in his field, if doctors want to assume a new and more prestigious name in their field, they can achieve it as long as they get the necessary knowledge but must be to the benefit of the patients and the masses at large without affecting other health practitioners, there should be no contention, let every profession develop its field and get relevant improvement but must be to the benefits of all especially the patients, the fact that some things were not done years ago does not mean they can never be done now, let's come off medicority, let all the people involved come together to reason and analyse things to know if there are benefits/advantages, disadvantages to both parties and the third parties (patients) and how to address them. People in academics are referred to as doctors because they got the relevant and necessary knowledge, some individuals even have honorary doctorate degrees, veterinary medicine award doctorate, optometry, etc. But I will also suggest that the other health professionals should make the necessary academic advancement they propose without any change in name or title if that will cause a confusion in the health sector. Thanks

I am not a health professional but I once worked at a general hospital in Lagos as a ''junior staff'' I saw more than enough of all of them

phantom: THE TROUBLE WITH THE NIGERIAN HEALTH SECTOR
For a longtime now I have come across so many articles and reports in the national dailies and in online social media on the rife in the health sector which centers mainly on the row between doctors and non-doctors working in the healthcare system. Most of these reports and articles, mostly lopsided, have one common denominator, presenting the Doctor as an enemy of the people and the manner of their submissions is such as to draw undue sympathy from the unsuspecting public. But for the neutral members of the society who have had cause to have sufficient contact with the hospital environment, I’m not talking of some quasi journalists, they need not be told, if there are, who the Angels and Demons are.
This article is not aimed at indicting or exonerating any of the two combatant parties as both have had a fair share of the blame, and honestly, the deplorable state of our healthcare system is not as a result of the performance of the health workers, but it is a component of an overall failed system called Nigeria which the current government is still trying to salvage amongst other difficult challenges. Considering the lines along which the divide has been made, I shall delve into an inquest of some of the key issues at stake, mostly those that affect the general public, and this I will do by placing the Nigerian Doctor on one side to be reviewed alongside a few of the numerous “health professionals” working in the healthcare system with due consideration to the most important person in the system, the Patient. I shall concentrate mostly on the tertiary healthcare institutions where the bulk of the rivalry is most felt.
The Patient and the Hospital:
Let us begin from the beginning. A healthy person falls sick and needs to regain his health and function properly. He says to himself, “I don’t feel well enough, I need to see a Doctor. May be I should go to the hospital tomorrow”. He sets out of his house with this principal aim. On getting to the hospital, he first gets to the reception, obtains a card at the Out Patient Department and then proceeds to see a Doctor (usually a Medical Officer) if his condition is one that necessitates a Specialists attention, he is then Referred to another Doctor, the Specialist (Consultant) for further treatment. On getting to the point of referral, the Record staff assist him in opening a folder containing case notes, and in the process of this, a Doctor (Consultant) is assigned to him. The entire process of obtaining a card and folder have no direct effect on the patient’s condition but help ensure proper documentation and recording within the hospital. He is then directed to the designated Specialist or Consultant Clinic where he is received by a Nurse who does further documentation and records his vital signs which may or may not be repeated by the Doctor. Then the patient enters the clinic to see the Doctor, his primary aim for coming to the hospital ab initio.
The Patient, the Doctor and Other Health Workers:
The Doctor begins by taking a complete history of the patient which includes his current complaints, previous health challenges, living condition, social habits, family history, drug history, financial capacity, religious and cultural beliefs, and then proceeds to do a complete physical examination of his entire body system, at the end of which the Doctor would have verified the patients complaints and identified any other problems unknown to the patient, before arriving at a Provisional Diagnosis. He then counsels the patient, draws up a treatment plan, which is to be strictly adhered to provided the patient is within the hospital environment, and automatically takes full responsibility for any problems encountered along the line. He finally schedules him for a follow-up visit to ascertain his response to treatment. This process of history taking creates a personal relationship between the Patient and the Doctor and this is where the confidence of a patient on the Healthcare system of a Nation is built; the Doctor-Patient Relationship.
The treatment plan of the Patient, drawn by the Doctor, may or may not include; the investigations (or tests) both laboratory or radiological to be carried out, the drugs to be dispensed and the appropriate prescription, the additional care to be rendered outside the basic nursing care and the treatment orders to be followed, some of which he does himself (or via his subordinate Doctors) and others by the Nurses. There is no stereotyped outline of what must be done for every patient; investigations to be carried out, treatment to be administered or drugs to be prescribed lies solely at the discretion of the Patient and his Doctor.
Apart from the Nurses, all other “Health Professionals” come into patient care when the Doctor’s plan involves them. Clearly, a patient has no business with the Radiographer if the Doctor’s plan does not involve radiography, neither does he have any business with the Pharmacist if the patient does not require any drugs, of course, not every patients require drugs. Therefore, it is safe to assert that if Patient Care is the sole interest of everybody in the Health sector, then the Doctor takes the Central stage in this service to Patients and must carry the Nurses along at every point in time, and together they look out for any other “Health Professional” that should be roped into patient care. Why then should the Doctor take the Central stage? Very simple. He has been trained thoroughly to do so. Invariably, the Doctor is naturally the undisputed leader of the Health team and only two classes of people can challenge this standing; the criminal minded ones pursing their selfish interests and the dim-wits incapable of any logical reasoning.
On the Headship of the Hospital:
Over time, the functional head of the tertiary hospital setting has been the office of the Chief Medical Director, CMD, and part of the Act establishing the hospitals specified that this position be held by a Medical Doctor. However, there has recently been a loud cry from other “Health Professionals” under the auspices of the Joint Health Workers Union (JOHESU) for the chance to also partake in the “enjoyment” of this office, as if to say it is a political office, a “National Cake” which should be shared equally to everyone in the scene, whereas, it is the most sensitive of all positions in the hospital setting, one with huge implications on the health of patients. The Medical Doctors on the other hand, insist that the office of the Chief Medical Director and the headship in general, of the Hospitals is their exclusive reserve.
How true is this claim by the Doctors? Again, it is very simple. Healthcare is all about patient care, and in rendering care to the patient who is the main focus of everyone, the Doctor is the arrow head. He brings together the activities of all in the health care delivery system to bear fruit on the health of the patient. He has a broad-based and yet in-depth medical knowledge that enables him to function as a leader in patient management and take responsibility for the outcome. It is then indeed a funny ideology to expect the Doctor to maintain leadership of Patient Management and then cede the leadership of the Hospital Management to a Non-Doctor. Right thinking people would agree that whoever takes the blame should take the lead. Leadership is about responsibility, and Doctors embrace such responsibility mainly as it involves lives which they have sworn an oath to protect.
Furthermore, JOHESU, a body comprising of other “health professionals”, support staffs and in fact all in the Hospital setting except Doctors, claim to be equal and allied to Medicine. But my question is, how is the clerical staff allied to Medicine? How can a support staff head the core members of the organization? Also, why should a “profession” that is “allied” to Medicine surmount Medicine? Can a Non-Lawyer become the Attorney General of the Federation? Why isn’t the office of the Vice-Chancellor made open to every staff in the University system since ASUU and NASUU both consist of “professionals”? How would ceding hospital leadership to JOHESU improve the health indices of our country? These are people that do not deal directly with patients, people that do not really understand the agony of patients which Doctors do. The saddest part is the extent they can go to press home their irrational demands. We have a documented occurrence of how they turned off power supply to the Intensive Care Unit during a JOHESU orchestrated strike action in a southeastern Teaching Hospital leading to death of patients on life support. This was an attempt to frustrate the Doctors’ effort to keep hospital services running while they were “striking”. How can people who have displayed this level of irresponsibility be allowed to head the Health sector? Again, God forbid!
It is a common saying that Doctors are “proud”, and I insist, they have very just reasons to be, and when it comes to arrogance, the patients can tell who amongst Doctors and Nurses are more approachable. Doctors are a select class of elite and comprise the best brains of the society. Yes, the entry requirements into the profession and the medical training ensure that only the best emerge as Doctors. As such, the government has to understand that any arrangement that sees a Non-Doctor in a sensitive position to head Doctors in any Health related issue would be met with fierce resistance and the never ending tussle it will ensue will have detrimental effects on our nation’s healthcare delivery. In the interest of peace and decorum, the Federal Government has to dig in and ensure that the status quo is been maintained. The ear that will hear needs not be the size of a raffia palm.
On conferment of Consultancy on other “Health Professionals”:
A Consultant (Medical) is the title for a senior hospital-based physician or surgeon who has completed all of his/her specialist (Residency) training and has been placed on the specialist register (Fellow) in their chosen specialty. This level of Doctor joins the Civil service as a Consultant and automatically leads a team of Doctors comprising Residents, Medical Officers and House Officers who train under him.
Currently, there has been an outcry by JOHESU to also be awarded Honorary Consultancy based on the fact that Doctors are been appointed as Consultants, why not they too. The concession of the government to this particular demand has led to the entire hospital going berserk in some centers. This was done against the warning of the Nigerian Medical Association that the introduction of such “alien” practices would be detrimental to the lives of patients and the results are showing.
At the Nnamdi Azikiwe University Teaching Hospitals, it is been said that a “Consultant Pharmacist” invaded the wards with his team, cancelling patients prescriptions and also demanded that a Consultant Cardiologist remove a key drug in an inpatient prescription, on grounds that the drug has some known adverse effects. Another report has it that in Abuja University Teaching Hospital, the Ante-Natal Clinic was invaded by Nurses who decided to consult patients and make prescriptions, of which the Doctors left the clinic and the Patients were confused. Patients who sought to see their Doctors were told that there was a “Consultant Nurse” who does whatever a Consultant does. Also, in University College Hospital, Ibadan, stories had it that a Consultant Plastic Surgeon was barred from reviewing the surgical wound he created post-operatively because a “Consultant Nurse” had reviewed the wound earlier and was satisfied with her findings.
Let us address one of these occurrences. It is grave ignorance for a Pharmacist to tamper with a drug prescription simply because he has looked through his drug formulary and has identified a known adverse effect of the drug when he/she has no knowledge of the processes involved in the making of diagnosis and prescriptions. Patient management is highly individualized. To make a prescription, the Doctors put many things into consideration viz; patient’s history and examination, financial cost of the drug, benefits against the risk of using the drug, other drugs to be administered etc. Sometimes the side effect of a drug is the desired effect needed in one patient but would remain a serious adverse effect in another patient. But no, the Pharmacist didn’t think in that line before cancelling prescriptions. I am not saying every doctor’s prescription is infallible. No. But if a pharmacist wishes to express concern over a patient’s prescription, he should discuss with the Doctor to sort out their concerns.
This whole consultancy for non-doctors arose as a result of their quest to have better remuneration. I am not opposed to better remuneration for other health workers, but looking for cheap means to it at the expense of the lives of patients is grossly unacceptable. Why would you want to be a Specialist (Consultant) when you have no specialty, or you have a specialty in an area whose service is not needed? Even if a non-doctor must be a consultant that does not automatically make him/her a Doctor. We all know how to become a Doctor and age is no barrier.
If non-doctors must immutably be made consultants, their duties and jurisdictions must be clearly spelt out and understood by all involved. A Consultant Nurse should be confined to Nursing Practice and she will be expected to enhance it, not to invade Medical Practice. She must ensure that the management plan of a Doctor is properly carried out, even if he is a House Officer. Unfortunately, the idea of non-doctor consultant emanates from the desire of these other “health Professionals” for position and better pay than the desire to meet any specific needs. For instance, a ward Nurse that does her duties properly becomes a Consultant, what extra services and improvement does that bring to nursing care? The fact that there exist non-doctor consultants in a few foreign countries does not explain why the government should channel huge sums of money into the payment of honorarium to consultants that add nothing to the existing system but chaos. The NMA have identified these unhealthy health policies and should do all it can to prevent it from killing Nigerians.
On relativity of Wages:
Another very important object of discord is the demand by JOHESU for a unified salary scheme for everyone in the health sector and that will see a close approximation of the eventual earnings of all in the sector. What else can be sillier? Need I remind us that in every organization there is usually an established strata. Even in heaven, there are Angels and Arch angels, and the angels are content with their positions and would not want to usurp the duties of the Arch angels either. People cannot obtain different qualifications, different expertise, subserve different needs and end up earning similar pay. No. That cannot happen. Why would a non-specialist insist on being paid specialists allowance? Why would a Non-doctor terrorize the government because he wants to be paid like Doctors? Where in the world is that obtainable? Relativity is sacrosanct and must be reflected both on the basic salaries and all allowances.
Granted. Doctors are few. Very very few. The World Health Organisiation recommends that a Doctor should consult not more than seven patients in a clinic session and should pay maximum attention to their needs, but our environment see us in a situation where a Doctor consults over 40 patients in one clinic session, yet, he is underpaid compared to his colleagues even in nearby Ghana. There are less than 30,000 Doctors currently practicing in Nigeria subserving over 170 million Nigerians, and there is a dire need for more, but that will not push the Medical schools to take in everybody and churn out unqualified people as Doctors, neither will the Nigerian Doctor allow a Non-Doctor to tamper with the lives of patients. Doctors swore an oath to preserve lives and the NMA must see to it that the lives of Nigerians are safeguarded. If the Hippocratic Oath is to be taken serious, then the NMA must win this battle.
More often than not, we are clear on the knowledge that it is injustice to treat equal people unequally, but it fails to come to our minds that, it is graver injustice to treat unequal people equally. This is not pride, it is a statement of fact. Doctors and Non-doctors in the Health sector are not equal and they cannot be treated as equal. There is a reason why some students work harder than others to become Doctors. Some sat for JAMB several times to achieve that, although many fail to do so and even some do fail out of medical school and end up as “other Health Professionals”. To eventually anticipate to be rewarded equally with those who triumphed where you failed is simply madness. The government must see to it that relativity is maintained. For if a Nurse or Pharmacist consults patient, not regarding quality of the consult, earns equally with a Doctor and even get a chance to head the Doctor, why then would one need to work harder to become a Doctor when he can easily become a Pharmacist? Tampering with relativity is a conscious attempt at breeding mediocrity, again at the expense of lives. If the Nurses and Pharmacists accept to be paid equally with the Lab “Scientist” and Janitors, it’s their own cup of tea, but paying Doctors and Non-doctors equally? God forbid!
On the Physiotherapists’ demand to make first contact with Patients:
According to Prof. K. E. Obidike, there are three reasons why patients go to see Doctors. Firstly, is to ascertain the causes of their complaints and resolve them. Secondly, is to identify any other health problems unknown to the patient, and again, resolve them timely, and finally, to have a baseline documentation of the patient as a reference for subsequent health issues. The second reason especially, answers the question as to why a Physiotherapist cannot make first contact with patients. Medicine is holistic, and the initial assessment of a patient takes the entire body system into account not just the presenting complaints. Therefore, Physiotherapists should remain Physiotherapists and should come into action when consulted. Simple.

Doctors you cant handle the health sector alone

hi guys, hope you've gotten your D.E forms.Any info from UI?

IF YOU ASPIRE TO OBTAIN A DIRECT ENTRY FORM INTO THE UNIVERSITY OF IBADAN FOR 2014/2015 SESSION PLEASE LET US MEET HERE TO DISCUSS COMMON GOALS. BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHERS FLOCK TOGETHER, 2014/2015 IS OUR SESSION BY GOD'S GRACE

Hmm bro, abeg what are the recognised 1st degree courses for Direct entry into medicine in ui. Is physics acceptable?

lomaxx: Emails flying everywhere. Werrin dey happen naa? What are they sharing?

Hi great Docs,
Pls why are we creating threads inside thread now?Ask your question openly and let others benefit from the advises or have you forgotten that open suggestions and advises given in the past have answered similar problems and prevented such questions from being repeated. Also, I read through D_BestDoc's experience and I was moved, I even commented on it, but I noticed that people don't want to ask any question openly again, everybody now exchange email, fb addresses for private consultation. I believe D_BestDoc experience but if care is not taken some people can formulate stories in order to get connections and attention. It is good we connect people with similar minds
and same goals but we must still keep this thread alive and relevant
Just an observation, subject to correction anyway. Thanks Docs

[quote author=D_BestDoc]Sorry Bro, but that is not the spirit of a good Doctor.I rarely reply to posts except the ones that catch my attention.If truly you want to be a Med. Doctor and you are convinced right in your heart that thats what you would do best,why dont you put up a little determination?i call it stikability(which you need even when you eventually get to medical school)thats the spirit that keeps you going when you have labs 5 times a week and classes inbetween,plus voluminous books to cover.the spirit that keeps you for 5-6yrs in med. sch.Dont allow Situations in Nigeria to ruin your Drea.ms Dont quit just yet if medicine is really what you desire,dont accept what life throws at you.Search yourself to know how you can do things better next time and 210 isnt really bad provided you have the chance to prove yourself and do better in the PUTME.
How many times Have you tried BTW

I spent 8yrs after high school before i got into Med.School.I couldnt think of anything else but Medicine,so it depends on your passion and driving force.My experience really might not hold true for everyone anyways![/quote


Very touching and inspiring testimony. I'm encouraged too

Lagusta: uniloin runs a september/may calendar, but accepts only 2.1 in anatomy, physiology, biochemistry, zoology and microbiology.......

i dont think they accept chemistry

Thanks for the info Dr Lagusta, but why is it like that? Chemistry
Is supposed to be an important aspect of medicine and pharmacy

alutacontinua: Which course did you study exactly?...the one with which you graduated with a 2.1. I think that is the major determining factor, not the individual subjects.

I graduated with Chemistry

alutacontinua: You need to know the academic calendars of the institutions and look out for whichever would still be processing admission by then. I think that is something you have to do yourself. Check out the institutions that you might be interested in and find out when they're resuming. Good Luck!

Thank u dr Alutacontinua


I'm already doing that but I dnt know abt uniben,unilorin and UNN, pls I need help from anyone who knows abt their academic calendars. Another question I want to ask is about the transcript and courses."Is chemistry part of the relevant science courses for DE in medicine? What exactly do they look out for in the academic transcript, d reason is bcs I want to be sure dat I'm eligible, I have 2.1 in chemistry but my year one result was nt good, I'm afraid, my introductory to biology was E. Pls I need enlightenment please

glowin2shyn: ,,yea,,y do u ask?

Hi nairalanders,

I'm a Medical applicant (DE) but awaiting results. My result will come out in DEC 2013 but I want to obtain 2013/2014 DE form. Pls I need advise on a good medical school that will not call for submission of result or admission processes until DEC 2013 or Jan. 2014
Pls I need your quick response. Thanks

Hi guys, do you think NECO may/june result can meet up this year's admission? Like in UI, it is stated that any result released after 31st of August cannot be used for that year's admission and neco does not release her result in August. Should one still write such an exam, What is your own advise?

Hi guys, pls does OAU accepts 2 sittings o'level for direct entry into medicine?

Abeycity97: Let me introduce myself.I am a Dentistry student,at OAU.If you have any question about OAU medical school ask me.

gud 2 have u. Pls Does OAU accepts two sittings o'level for direct entry into medicine and pharmacy and do they accept B.sc in Physics or Mathematics for Direct entry into Medicine?

fineyemi: I just finished my ND from yaba college of tension(yabatech) wit 3.35 in comp sci. I want 2 go 2 UI next year. Do i hav any chance. Am from ibadan.

Apply

daddynasa: Helo house. am also interested in ui D.E medicine i graduated wit 3.53 biochem 4rm uniport currently serving to pass out by june 2013. my waec is one sitting wit B3 in phy, chem math and C4 in bio and eng.am i eligible? @shozone and other metabolites we can relate 07030763334 kindly help wit info. 10x

Yes y not, but let our conversation be on this page and not on phone so dat others can gain 4rm it. thanks

Olami90: adex..no cut off yet jst upper credit..
@larabalo..check jamb site nd locate OAU to check available courses..
@lerhidey....d minimum is upper,it nw depends our on ur schl grading system....
If u want to obtain d form,u can to to most accreditd centres dt did jamb reg..,get d card there nd register there bcoz of d access code.....u may decide to go to jamb office or bank

Does OAU accepts two sittings o'level results for Medicine and surgery?

darlenelaw: My ND(DIPLOMA IN LAW)

i dont know if they will admit u but u can apply, what they look at are, ur sch, ur cgpa, ur olevel, catchment area and ur course must relate to d course u want 2 study

Jacksparrow1: Sup guyz, need ur suggestions. I m graduate of human physiology and currently a batch C corper, I ll like to take d 2013 may/june direct entry form but wouldn't be done with service till oct 2013. Looking forward 2 study medicine in unilag or ui. Should I purchase d form or just chill till 2014? Time is nt on my side tho

I think you should get the form. The list will come out around that same time and registration will start immediately. You would have finished serving

darlenelaw: Pls rum, is the form out?

next year immediately after JAMB UTME Exams

osumah joy: So wats ur advice 4 me..... i shud 4get UI?, cos i have 2 sittings in o'level and i want to study economics thru d.e (n.c.e 3.64)

Go 2 UI undergraduate admison ofice 4 enquiries but I think dey accept 2 sittings except 4 med & pharm

shozone: Well am going to apply cos wat dey got in d jamb brochure is at least a good 2.2 and I ma 2.2 is high but beta still am gona go 2 d skool for enquiries
Thanks man
Also I wanna ask if 1 cud morethan 1 DE forms to different skools?

Better, I'm only sure of one sitting 4 medicine & pharmacy bcs of ma experience in 2012/2013 list. Rmber d two forms will go thru jamb & d system MAY detect it

whilly: Please i want to choose u.i for Direct Entry next year, i graduated from polyibadan with upper credit 3.62 local govt studies, please which course can i choose in faculty of Art, it very urgent

Go thru jamb brochure and chk courses under d faculty of arts, browse d net about each of d courses/ask pple, pray 2 know ur area of gift & passion, consider future job potential in it, choose a course u like & bgin to wrk hard. Nothing brings fulfilment in lyf dan enjoyn what u do. Some are regretn 2day so look b4 u leap. Dnt 4get o'level and jamb subject combinatn sa

whilly: Please i want to choose u.i for Direct Entry next year, i graduated from polyibadan with upper credit 3.62 local govt studies, please which course can i choose in faculty of Art, it very urgent

Go thru jamb brochure and chk courses under d faculty of arts, browse d net about each of d courses/ask pple, pray 2 know ur area of gift & passion, consider future job potential in it, choose a course u like & bging to wrk hard. Nothing brings fulfilment in lyf dan enjoyn what u do. Some are regretn 2day so look b4 u leap. Dnt 4get o'level and jamb subject combinatn sa

whilly: Please i want to choose u.i for Direct Entry next year, i graduated from polyibadan with upper credit 3.62 local govt studies, please which course can i choose in faculty of Art, it very urgent

Go thru jamb brochure and chk courses under d faculty of arts, browse d net about each of d courses/ask pple, pray 2 know ur area of gift & passion, consider future job potential in it, choose a course u like & bging to wrk hard. Nothing brings fulfilment in lyf dan enjoyn what u do. Some are regretn 2day so look b4 u leap. Dnt 4ge o'level and jamb subject combinatn sa

whilly: Please i want to choose u.i for Direct Entry next year, i graduated from polyibadan with upper credit 3.62 local govt studies, please which course can i choose in faculty of Art, it very urgent

Go thru jamb brochure and chk courses under d faculty of arts, browse d net about each of d courses/ask pple, pray 2 know ur area of gift & passion, consider future job potential in it, choose a course u like & bging to wrk hard. Nothing brings fulfilment in lyf dan enjoyn what u do. Some are regretn 2day so look b4 u leap

mathefaro: Pls i need to know if i can apply for d.e in UI wit my part-tym ND. 3.79 CGPA in computer science.

Y NOT, 3.79 abi UI dem chop winch?

[quote author=shozone]I meant to write june2013 not 14 ok.anyway dey just change ma project,IT and some courses frm B or A to E yeah[/quote

Dat was so cruel of dem, anyway what will be will be, I will advise u go 2 UI faculty of medicine 2 know if there are special consideration b4 obtaining d form. My contact in admission office said d instruction given 2 dem is 1st class or 2.1

[quote author=shozone]I meant to write june2013 not 14 ok.anyway dey just change ma project,IT and some courses frm B or A to E yeah[/quote

Dat was so cruel of dem, anyway what will be will be, I will advise u go 2 UI admission office 2 know if there are special consideration b4 obtaining d form.

osumah joy: Does ui accept NCE with 3.64 g.p and also 2 sittings in o'level

I think so depending on d course u wish 2 study, Medicine and Pharmacy, NO to 2 sittings

shozone: [/color][color=#006600]Pls som1 shud pls give an advice.Am planning on get a DE_13/14 to UI to study medcine.am grduate of biochem currently serving to pass out june2014.
Ma O'L is at 1_sitting,cgpa_3.49 does dis qualify me!

3.49 is a very good grade, but less than 2.1, I think d minimum requirement is 3.50. U shld qualify if UI will reason d way I do. By d way, which sch is dat? 3.49 G.P shld be approx 3.50 or did u offend a lecturer in ur dept, dat nobody could plead on ur behalf among d lecturers? Moreover, 2013/2014 session in UI would've started b4 u finish serving, how u wan do am?

Direct entry forms for all universities come out @ d same time, it is JAMB that sells the form immediately after UTME