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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:06am On Aug 02, 2018

hensben:
The truth is there are so many English players in your team, they are average and been hyped by their media. We have two in Barkley and Loftus-Cheek.

You and this Loftus-cheek again. . You don't like the lad at all unlike most Shekpe fans that sing praises of him.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:36am On Aug 02, 2018

Oasis007:
Manchester United defender Chris Smalling has agreed a deal with Wolves, according to reports in the Daily Express.

The England international is contracted to Old Trafford until the summer of 2019.

Let me wait till it's official before I celebrate. These rumours are usually filled with lies. Hopefully Rojo joins him as well. The earlier these deadwoods are exiled, the better for us.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:50pm On Aug 01, 2018

Inasmuch as I do criticise Mourinho steadily, and still think publicly revealing about Martial's petulance in this child saga is not a wise decision, I think Martial didn't handle the issue soundly as well. If this was the World Cup, would Martial have left the camp since and refused to come back and help the team?

Being at his wife's side for the birth of his child was the right thing to do, but he'd have returned for the Madrid match. Fabian Delph left England camp to be present for his child's birth, but he returned afterwards to help his team-mates in the next match. The child is not running away. Martial no try. Mourinho handled it wrong with the public exposure too. It's a pre-season fixture, not a competitive fixture, somethings are meant to be sorted out internally. Mourinho talks too much.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:37pm On Jul 31, 2018

patrickmuf:
Yes they are better than us at the moment but you take a second look at our players and realize most of them are not playing to their potential, maybe it's the system or perhaps they're not motivated enough to give their all, an excuse I am beginning to question considering how much they are paid...I think with the right set up, Pogba, Sanchez, Martial and the likes can offer more...

In that post of mine you quoted, you'd see that I mentioned that City possesses a quality coach. That's me admitting that Mourinho's tactics are backward and obtuse. He'd be getting more from his players with a better tactic.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:02pm On Jul 31, 2018

Patricmuf, City is way more better than us. They fit the criteria of a world-class team for me. They have one of the best coaches around who's not archaic like Mourinho, and the team has GENERALLY GOOD players with a sprinkle of world-class players like Silva, Aguero and KDB.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 1:52pm On Jul 31, 2018

patrickmuf:
So who are the world class players in Barcelona? I am sure you'd say Messi, Suarez (He is fat declining), Coutinho, Pique (Also declining), Umtiti Busquet, Rakitic...If we look at Spurs, we'd list Alderweireld, Vertoghen (If Pique at this point and Umtiti are world class then he is too), Dembele (If you consider Rakitic world class), Kane, Erikson...That's like 7 for Barca and 5 for Spurs...
At Madrid, you have Ramos, Varane, Marcelo, Modric, Kroos, Casemiro, Bale etc. That's like seven, the others are top performers...
At City, you have Aguero, KDB, D.Silva, Gundogan, Fernandinho that's five players but I'm sure a lot of folks will look at City and refer to them as a world class team...

Spurs might not have smae number of world class players in their ranks but they have other top performers like Trippier, Lloris, Son, Rose etc...

You said they're declining? At least their former reps still covers them. But Spuds apart from those two don't have even declining ones. Mind you, experience matters a lot and these declining players still have them and it can come in handy in matches.

I think our choices differs because I will take Rakitic over Dembele. Take Alba over Rose. Take Umtiti over Vertoghen. Take Alderweireld over the current Pique but will choose Pique over Davidson Sanchez. In that midfield I'll take Busquet over that overhyped Dier. In short, only Kane, Alderweireld and Eriksen will contest for a starting berth into my Barcelona team if I was the coach. I don't rate Spuds players as much as you do. They're good quiet all right, but THAT GOOD? Hell no!!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 1:36pm On Jul 31, 2018

odizeey:
you are the one not getting. since Tottenham are using ridiculous amount to keep their average players then other can keep their world class by setting unreachable amount on the player.
this thing is about the player majorly if he wants to leave he will force it.

In Cristiano's case, he wanted to leave and would never have signed a new contract with us. It's either we let him leave for a world record fee like we did, or risk seeing leave for free or for lesser amount if he ran down his contract. The money for Ororo then is 300m you're talking of now. Only a very rich club could afford him.
Someone like Kane has not submitted transfer request like Coutinho, when he does, Tottenham would be forced to sell him or lose him for peanuts.

Plus you're forgetting something important, the tradition of upping the buy-out clause of players to figures like 700m, 1billion, etc., was not existing in those days. Shît has changed.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 1:28pm On Jul 31, 2018

patrickmuf:
Is Barcelona a team of world class players currently? How about Real Madrid, we are going somewhere with this discussion, Chelsea nko?

We are not wailing about our team being average, we are asking for good players and specifically specialist to be signed to man each position, Mahrez is good and not necessarily world class, Rebic/Perisic are not world class but they can do a job and do it well and that's what we crave for, not super signings...This is what a greater number not folks here imply from their comments here.

Your last paragraph is true but you must also realize that whilst Robben in his prime was world class, he was several levels below Messi just as Rakitic is several levels below Modric and so on...

Madrid team are world-class, even that of Barcelona. I said this because apart from having "3-4 of world-class players" (let's go with your benchmark), they also have GENERALLY TOP/GOOD PLAYERS. It's highly improbable to see a team populated with world-class players all through. What you're going to get are 3-4 world-class and more top players. That's where I think you got it wrong (thinking just 3-4 world-class players ONLY are enough to make a team world-class)

Madrid has world-class players but the first-eleven is filled with top players. How can you not think a team that has/had Ororo, Bale, Kroos, Modric, Varane, Ramos, Isco, Marcelo is not world-class. These are top players.

But United are filled with deadwoods like Young, Shaw, Rojo, Jones, Mctominay etc. If we had a good and sensible coach first and foremost, with a team that's generally good in most positions alongside 3-4 world-class players, we'd be a top team like Madrid and Co.

Yes, I agree that even for world-class, there are levels. But for me, Vertoghen and Alderweireld never reach that world-class level.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 12:58pm On Jul 31, 2018

patrickmuf:
I didn't mention Alli, I made reference to Kane, Erikson and Alderweireld in my subsequent post to buttress my point and there's no denying that they are indeed world class...
3---4 players of world standard in a teams qualifies you to term them a team of world class players...Kane, Erikson, Alderweireld and neck even Vertoghen will earn two to three times the amount they're currently earning at Spurs if they played for us, City, Chelsea or any of the big guns.
For the records, I don't rate Alli that high.

I don't agree that 3-4 world-class players are enough to make a team world-class because judging with your benchmark, with Pogba, De Gea and Sanchez, why are we still wailing about our team being average?

And I also disagree that Vertoghen and Alderweireld are world-class defenders. The likes of Ramos, Pique in his prime, Godin, Chellini, etc., are several levels above any Spuds CBs.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 12:25pm On Jul 31, 2018

odizeey:
sorry to ask, if it was that easy why do other clubs not put high price too. like on ronaldo wen we sold him. its more than that joor

You put high price on a player that's considered valuable, whether the person is worth the valuation is another case. Dele Alli has a high valuation and hype around him, if you come for him, he will cost you from 100m upwards unless he loses form and his valuation drops. But for me, even for 50m, I won't touch Alli with a 50ft pole. He's very average and one of the numerous overhyped English piece of shît littering the EPL. We saw how he looked clueless without Eriksen at the World Cup.

Coutinho is very valuable and will cost a lot, while Digne that's been sold to Everton is less valuable. Both play for this same club, but their valuations are different.

Pogba has a high buy-out clause on his head, while Darmian won't cost more than 15m. De Gea is worth over 100m while Grant will be sold free of charge if we intend to sell him. There are levels to this shît. All players are not equal.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 12:00pm On Jul 31, 2018

patrickmuf:
How Levy manages to keep such world class players on a modest wage is beyond me...See how they are dealing with the Alderweireld issue, no panic whatsoever, last season he was benched for a greater part of the season yet he didn't complain...
Levy is the real boss...How I wish we had someone like Levy, Martial and the other lads wouldn't be messing around...

World what? huh

Don't overhype Spuds players, mbok. I'm sure that average Joe called Alli is world-class in your eyes. For proving himself for over 3 seasons now, Kane is the only world-class player at Spurs and Eriksen as well. There's is a difference between a good player and a world-class player. Spurs have good players, not world-class players. The likes of Dier, Trippier, Sanchez, etc are not world-class. Let's not be deceived.

And what Levy does to keep his players that are considered very important is to slam exorbitant money as their buy-out clauses, same way Chelsea is insisting on 200m for Madrid to get Hazard. That way, clubs will think long and hard before coming to price any of them away. If we're interested in Wayama who's surplus to requirement at White Hart Lane, or the ageing Dembele, they won't cost us much. But if we inquire about Eriksen and Co, na from 80m upwards.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 12:41am On Jul 29, 2018

Leyqute:
Willian won't give us two good seasons. Plus I don't think he'll fit well into that position.

That's why I want Willian to come cheap and not the exorbitant price being quoted. But as for if he'll be better than Mata on the wings, hell yes. Hell, I'll rather push Valencia back to our wings than suffer the torture of ever seeing Mata on our wing.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:45pm On Jul 28, 2018

Leyqute:
Mata disappeared BTW. Didn't see him throughout the first half apart from his 2 offside goals.

Stat hugger

He's exactly why I keep insisting on us getting Willian (for a reduced fee of course) to play that RW, because I don't ever want Mourinho to have any excuse of playing him on the wings.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 12:02pm On Jul 28, 2018

larride:
Make una calm down jare, I just checked sky sports and nothing is there linking us to Willian, not even rumors from papers. Let’s chill and see what happens

They read the foolish news on FP of NL. Something that's yet to be official but one blog in Nigeria reported it as an official news and the biggest forum in Nigeria couldn't bother to verify the news. Buncha clowns!!

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 12:00pm On Jul 28, 2018

obainojazz:
heard we've signed willian

Dumb Nairaland supermods moved an unofficial news to the FP. No site has made the news official as at when it hit the front page of NL. . I wonder if Seun checks the IQ of his mods before appointing them.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:58am On Jul 28, 2018

SIRcumalot:
I no even reason that angle. Truly,the only reason I wanted him was because of how effective he is on the break.
I like Douglas Costa but Barca's dembele na who I really get eye for. Woodward has my consent to spend up to 100million chasing that guy.

This Barca's Dembele is the bootleg version of the original Dortmund Dembele. The jury is still out on him, but with recent displays, he's worth only a million cowries. lipsrsealed

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:55am On Jul 28, 2018

SIRcumalot:
Una sure say this golovin no be World Cup hype?
Nobody sabi the Ninja before world cup.

I have the same problem when it comes to Minna(who I really like) but I don dey ask myself if he good like that why Barça no play am? I no even sabi say the guy they Barça

Honestly, the guy might be a World Cup hype, but buying any player is taking a risk, because he may or may not excel at your club. For Golovin, the risk is worth it, though, I mean, he's not too costly.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 10:56am On Jul 28, 2018

JayKayMaybachz:
I don't want Willian, Fam

Even if na free of charge? grin

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:42am On Jul 28, 2018

I'm not believing these silly rumors, but if the rumours that Wolves are interested in Rojo are true, we'd sell him fast along with Jones. Two gidigbo defenders without intelligence.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:39am On Jul 28, 2018

JayKayMaybachz:
Papers just linked us with Yerry Mina

The Colombian defender

We've been linked with almost everybody. Those rumors are mostly click baits. I don't read them anymore. When I see official signing, I'll read the news. I hope you're not getting your hopes up with those lies disguised as football rumors?

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:37am On Jul 28, 2018

JayKayMaybachz:
No need explaining all these cos, Man utd won't even consider paying £67 Million for Willian. Activity former like am. He's another version of Valencia

I don't mind Willian coming at all, but for that ridiculous amount and at that age? Hell no!! We'd have been chasing Golovin, but alas, Mourinho probably never considered him.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:01pm On Jul 25, 2018

neezar:
Guy ahbeg this is manu thread and we have a very strong issue at hand

u dey talk about hijacking

Make I kee myself? I'm not in charge of transfers if not, I'd have known cheaper players to have pursued for over a month now instead of chasing Bale and Maguire.

Let's just hope Mourinho and Woodward knows what they're doing

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:55pm On Jul 25, 2018

Melvyn11:
10 World Cup goals and 42 champions league goals are impressive but doesn't change the fact that he is a limited player and has been on decline since 2015.he hasn't had a big game performance for bayern since 2015 and has failed to score or
assist in the last 2 major tournaments with Germany.
. Still living on 2010 World Cup hype. 0 goals in 2016 euros and 0 goals in 2018 World Cup. Not seen decline this steep since the Brazilian Adriano.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:45pm On Jul 25, 2018

L-ruditor, I called you out along with that Amala turner, when Shellshit hijacked Jorginho'deal, both of you went dumb. The long ass epistles making United the only club that hijacks deals has disappeared. The day after day spent arguing just one deal we got over City is nowhere to be seen. It's obvious where the hypocrisy was coming from.

Anyway, Eruditor, here's another editorial, not from us, both from a pundit, slamming the SAINT of a club that you support that has never done anything wrong. It makes for a good read, you'd check it out. grin

http://www.goal.com/en/news/more-than-a-club-malcom-hijacking-proves-hypocritical/i6xtpw3welg21dullzllioyl7

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:52am On Jul 24, 2018

Nihilstjnr:
Your story is too long bros.

Who were the strikers on the books when Mourinho sold Chelsea?

This is a shocking news. Mourinho, an ex-employee of Shellshit, sold Shekpe even when he wasn't the owner? To whom if I make ask?

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:43pm On Jul 23, 2018

Nihilstjnr:
I compared Rashford under Mourinho to Mbappe who is not under Mourinho.

Martial and Lukaku are both under Mourinho. Infact Mourinho has previously sacked Lukaku at a former job.

He met Martial and balked at the idea of having the fraud lead the line for him. First he took his number 9 shirt, then he ran back to his vomit and slurped it with ice.

If you ain't trolling, then you shouldn't be surprised at Mourinho's choice of forwards to leave his attack.

From Benni Mccarthy, to Drogba, to Shevchenko, Ibrahimovic, to Benzema, to Toress, to Eto'o, to Diego Costa, back to Old cargo Ibrahimovic and finally Ukaku. . . Surely you don't need an optomettician to point out the pattern I'm painting here.

When have you ever seen a CF of Martial's physique lead Mourinho's attack? If Mourinho was made the coach of City when Pep was appointed, if Aguero is not demoted for a ist choice of a physical attacker, the second forward Mou would've bought would be a taller physical striker.
Mou prefers brawns over brain in the CF position. Do you think Mourinho will have short Aguero and still bought an average height, Jesus?

If Mourinho was made the coach of Barca during the Pep and Martino eras, Messi would never play as a CF or false nine. A CF like Drogba would've been bought.

When Mourinho went after Ibrahimovic, I was among the select few that criticised his purchase and till now I'm still of the opinion that going for a younger established CF would've been more profitable over a big name signing. The Ibrahimovic didn't even lady for two seasons before leaving. You shouldn't be surprised after all Mou brought back an aged Drogba.

This is not even about Martial. What of Rashford? Mourinho bought Ibrahimovic and moved Rashford to the wings and the poor lad has since forgotten what being a CF feels like.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:32pm On Jul 20, 2018

eph12:
Is that not the guy that Ibime_ said has been marked for foolishness on shekpe thread?

Yes, it is it.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:29pm On Jul 20, 2018

JayKayMaybachz:
I won't judge the team on preseason results.. ✔

Me too. Preseason never determines how a team will fare in the league. It's just a money making avenue and training to prepare players ahead of the coming season. If we perform badly next season, it had nothing to do with our preseason.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:27am On Jul 19, 2018

MRTA7:
I've never been more impressed by how wrong and how much of a troll a post is. This is the 1st. Congratulations.

The guy types a lot of bullshït most times, that's why I usually skip his posts. Imagine typing that we bought Fred for £60m.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 6:01pm On Jul 18, 2018

Lana1:
Coefficients.
Germany doing well

Una no wan make Dayo rest for one day, abi? grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:57pm On Jul 18, 2018

Nihilstjnr:
This one has more potential to me.

Good close control, and can thread accurate passes through narrow spaces.

Extra points for not having ridiculous haircut

Your beef for extravagant display of ridiculous hairstyles, especially for upcoming players that haven't achieved shishi, remains strong. grin

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:54pm On Jul 18, 2018

joeace2020:
Bro am not even after the massive signing thing. There are glaring weaknesses in the squad. No out and out right winger, still hoping eternally on Shaw, with Young as first choice. Valencia who's crossing prowess has diminished with Dalot behind him. There's still the issue of hoofball at certain points next season with fellaini. At a time City won the league with 100 points, 100+ goals and 19 points above us in 2nd, you would think maybe we would work on replicating something like theirs or close to Fergie's football but we will go the Mourinho way again -Win Ugly or draw at least. As for the players leaving, i based that on the rumors always linking our best players away. I am just tired bro...I am not just confident of anything spectacular next season if we don't change something about our football. Transfer wise to pitch performances.

I feel the same way. No meaningful rumors linking us to good players. My morale for next season is very low. Right now, Loserfool and Shitty looks like the only teams complete and raring to go. I hope Mourinho knows what he's doing. Let me just try and be hopeful.

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