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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:46am On Feb 05, 2018
Now i know why they call them Barkabots. Not all of them are brain-dead, Dmcdåd is an example of a Barca with sane reasoning, but for majority of them, their reasonings are nothing to write home about. Too many idiöts on this thread lately.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:41am On Feb 05, 2018
phaamsaam:
Well everyone has got the right to comment, what you guys should do is make sure the thread is filled up more with man, Mou, and the club discuss, you can't come to barca thread and see it filled with 70% discuss of madrid, or atletico, take pride in your club, imagine how many pages of discuss 6subs took here, one would start to think man u fans are really the noisy neighbors, seriously probably they have become that
We'd do your bidding because your opinions counts? You're on a United thread with your other Barca minions discussing about Pep, EPL, Man City and United, something you hypocrite ignore when the Neymar troll, Dayo and Eruditör etc does as well, and you think your opinion counts coz your papa created us? Get the fùck outta here!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:46am On Feb 05, 2018
sebod:
I doubt if a United fan will not be happy if Pep had chosen his club over City and they are 13points ahead of others even if he bought Messi Neymar and co.
I am also not sure if United with Mou as the coach are leading others by 13points even after buying Messi, Neymar and co would attract any criticism from the United faithfuls. I believe everything would have just been said to be perfect.

Pep failed last season and was rightly criticised, he addressed his errors this season and he's doing fine. I don't think he still deserves all these bashings if we are to be truthful to ourselves knowing fully that it would have been a jamboree if united are the ones at the top irrespective of how much spent on which player.
Last season, Chelsea fans were in more joyous mood than they're currently. Things went well for them and it reflected in their comments. Last season, Barca fans wailed more than they did this season. So it's no rocket science that if United were in City's position, it'd have been a jamboree. Which fans won't be happy that their club are doing fine? What are you trying to achieve with this?

I don't know how and why fielding 6 players on the bench has become an offence really, when we have seen coaches not even utilising the 3 max subs in some occasions.
Though I stand with Pep on this issue, it's not about a coach utilising his max subs or not, it's about following the standard long-existing practice of bringing the maximum subs.

Gone are the days when Barca fans were criticised of being obsessed with Madrid by always discussing them on their thread. But today, one can hardly read a line here without seeing City this, Pep that. Not even chelsea that used to be the closest rivals anymore.

I want to read more about United and how they are faring when I come here and not about City and Pep biko. grin
You're just talking off point, or simply being mischievous. Even on your thread, you guys talk about Madrid and "Oponunaldo" even while doing well this season. Last season, you guys talked about Madrid. Both here and on Chelsea thread, Pep and City has been talked about before Pep came to EPL sef. Why won't we talk about City, are they untouchable or what? Are they not a football club in EPL? Stop talking like a toddler. Are you not on a United thread talking about another club? Why didn't you say this to that troll Neymar1095 that jumps upandan talking about Pep on every thread? Where were you when Eruditør was discussing anything about Pep from last season till now on other threads?

Nigga, you're a hypocrite, and sad as it is for me to say this, I think this is a general disease amongst Barca fans.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:02pm On Feb 04, 2018
raumdeuter:
People can speculate on the reasons. The fact is he has 6 players injured and the youth team played yesterday finished at 4PM

You havent told me which strategic planning you would have done in Peps place when faced with such situation. Pep will never need all 7 players, he will probably need 3. and he has 6 senior team players to choose frombut no Pep has to shop for a kid anywhere even if from the street to help the kitman pack the jersey just to give him the experience?

So the way to give youth a chance is to pick a 17yr old and ask him to pack the jersey = Giving youth a chance? Is the youth auditioning to be a drycleaner?
Dayo, clubs do have other reserve teams like U21, U18, U19 etc. Remember Rashford wasn't even our 4th choice but lack of options forced us to use him. So, if Pep really wanted to add another player to that substitute bench, he'd have done if he's serious about it. Fashi all this talk.

But I stand with Pep on this based on the ASSUMPTION that he's not broken any FA rules for going with 6 substitutes. Until it's been established that he broke FA rules, Pep is innocent.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 6:58pm On Feb 04, 2018
Roland17:
Baba, let me first of state that I do not care for G. Neville or his brother who is now the head coach on the lioness one bit. If anything, I think he should be hiding his head whenever he criticizes coaches. Ozil was absolutely right about some of these ex players who have become pundits. Rather than constructively criticize teams, they are hitting below the belt and it annoys me most when the below average ones in their playing days run their mouth because they have a camera in front of them.

I am all about setting the wrong precedence in the league. The EPL I presume is guided by strict rules which ensures parity, fairness and when a coach willfully alters those rules you are inviting unnecessary negative press. Every game that is showcased is a product of the league, it's like the orange a seller Hawks in traffic or by the side. You must always make them presentable. Like I discussed with @ eruditor, every coach has a right to complain about officiating especially when they feel their players are being targeted, however, he should show the league and accord your fellow coaches some respect when you do that.

How do you think Sean Dyche and Burnley felt when they found out? Disrespected for sure because he would not dare such against any of the top 5-6 teams in the league. How about the City academy players? What is the motivation to work hard?
OK, I understand your main POV as regards this issue with embolden.

I did a little Google search, I didn't dig too deep, and I didn't find anywhere where Pep has been found guilty of this substitute matter in the past years. Based on my tiny search, I'm assuming it's his first time. So, if it is, then Pep should be cut some slack. He probably didn't see any big problem with it, or maybe his defence of going with 6 subs instead of 7 coz of the reserve team playing on Friday, was strong enough (I still believe if he's he'll-bent on adding the last player, he'd have added other young City reserve players easily as clubs do have other reserve teams based on age groups).

I insist he shouldn't have received that kind of criticism for a first-time mistake.

But what I'd want anybody that has time to do is to find out if Pep's using of just 6 substitutes broke any rule. If it didn't, then he deserve no criticism, and whatever criticism he'd face should come from City fans and employers; however, if he broke FA rules by going with 6 instead of 7, he'd be reminded about it and warned not to break such rules again.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 4:02pm On Feb 04, 2018
KevinDein:
LMAO grin

What is it, 6-7 mentions and none of the Man Utd trolls could actually address my earlier point.

So I went through few pages on here and I find some comments trolling Arsenal. This I find amusing because it's coming from the fans of a club that haven't exactly bettered Arsenal in the last five years or so. Yep, not in trophy haul, not in better league position, not in better quality of football play, OK I give it to you guys, you've spent at least five times what Arsenal spent in that period, so credit where it's due grin.

Point stands though; rubbish Arsenal (I'm not arguing this, I accept we are rubbish grin) have been finishing ahead of your team for five years now (no, I'm not celebrating this like some of you were mischievously implying in your comments, just stating facts), with same number of trophies having spent a fraction of your budget.

You all, just like me, should do the honorable thing and accept your club is super rubbish.
That's why y'all are okay with mediocrity. That's the difference between you and me. While I accept my club have fallen from its top position and are working hard to climb back up; y'all on the other hand will still tolerate mediocrity and unlike United, have fallen off top position since Mourinho arrived in England. Count the years.

When Mourinho came to decimate the heagomony of power between our clubs, United rose up to the challenge to fight with Chelsea. When Man City had oil money and brought top players to further decimate the heagomony between United and Chelshit, United reinvented itself to still compete at the highest level.

Fergie left and we're knocked off our perch, but unlike y'all, we are battling to not be mediocre like y'all. We've sacked some coaches to try to get back with the best out there, but y'all have remained stagnant for more than 13 years now. The gulf of determination to regain glory between us, is wider than the Pacific Ocean.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 3:50pm On Feb 04, 2018
kokaneprodigy:
truer words have never been said.
Cocain addict, shebi your eyes are suddenly paining you? Your Internet services doesn't allow say the truth abi? I'm sure your eyes were plucked away when Aubameyang scored an illegitimate goal yesterday, yes?

Mctominay was nearly decapitated yesterday, the Huddersfield henchman got away with no card and United were denied a clear Pk. But you hid in your cave and pretended like none of these things happened. If it was United it favoured you'd have been here with your horde of ungrateful haters to scream "United PDP", the only English words you're fluent in typing.


*in Diggz's voice* Thunder wee faya yhu well well any day you come here to recite that your dumb nursery rhymes. angry

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 3:41pm On Feb 04, 2018
Roland17, while I totally agree with you that if Mourinho had wore the yellow ribbon showing support to a state's independence, he MAY have been banned instead of escaping a fine like Guardiola did, I disagree with you on the number of substitutes controversy.

Yesterday when I read about Gary's outburst concerning Pep's number of substitutes, what immediately came to my mind was, "what's he on about? Why is he making a mountain outta a molehill? Is it his business? How many times have Pep done such?"

I don't see why there's so much noise made about this matter. Just coz of ONE substitute he didn't bring along? If he had brought him along he still wouldn't play him. To my best of knowledge, clubs are allowed just 3 substitutes in a match; so, Pep had enough substitute to see out that match. Pep drawing that match was not because of that move by him. So, what's the fuss about? Am I missing something here? If Pep usually does this, then Gary is right, but if he doesn't, then Gary should calm down and sip some tea. You're a pundit you attach meanings to everything.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 3:29pm On Feb 04, 2018
Oasis007:
grin

Sinizia...... you've really done well, I hope you can stick to your Words and avoid the Clown's Rants henceforth.
I've stopped replying him. My post this morning was a reply to the post of my United brethren.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 1:46pm On Feb 04, 2018
Lana1:
Lmao. What the fûck kind of excuse is this?? Are his players also getting slide tackles from the bench??

O ma se o. These Up Barka boys sha
joeace2020:
Wow! Another one. This one reads Guardiola's mind. So in protest of players being brutalized (because he's the first manager to have his team targeted) he decides to name 6 players on the bench as a protest. Maybe refrees will be more meaner when they see poor Pep has lost almost half the team he assembled with half a billion pounds. Poor old Pep.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 12:28pm On Feb 04, 2018
patrickmuf:
Sinizia, he'll be back after a day or two with some dumb rebuttal...He must be using Google now, when he's done, he'll be here to chat shit he doesn't understand...
I'll not reply him, trust me.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 12:26pm On Feb 04, 2018
neezar:
sinizia nice one

School all these hypocrites
Brother, this kind of numbing stupidity leaves me weak. I've never seen anything like it. The hypocrisy in watts will give every state, village and hamlet in Nigeria steady power for ever. This kind of foolishness will reduce the IQ of Einstein. So horrible is the stench of this hypocrisy that soakway pit workers refused to go near anywhere near it out of disgust.

A Pep and Barca apologist going all sanctimonious on us? Who does he think he's debating here? Kids? Folks without Internet? What the actual fùck!?

In 2013, Neymar passed a medical in Brazil with Madrid and even signed an agreement. Following Barcelona's involvement, Florentino Perez sent a member of the club's legal team, Javier Lopez Farre, who said that the deal was closed.

However, demands made by Santos and the change in certain requirements from the player led to Madrid to pull out.
http://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2018/01/12/5a588581e5fdea5b198b45b6.html

But he could well have been lining up alongside Cristiano Ronaldo instead, only for Real Madrid to pull the plug on the transfer right at the end.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/neymar-transfer-news-completed-real-madrid-medical-barcelona-move-florentino-perez-a7798881.html

After Barca went behind to offer more incentives to Neymar, including mind-boggling fraud money, conniving with Neymar to dupe Santos in a deal that shocked the ENTIRE WORLD, that nigga had the temerity to come on this thread to utter bollocks? Like we're born today? Nigga, fùck you and fùck your opinions.

Stay butthurt forever while your idol, Pep moves on with his life knowing this shît is regular football occurance. Now I know why Ibîme refused giving him audience anymore. I'll do same henceforth.


I'll have to reach out to English scholars and Oxford dictionary editors to strike off the word HYPOCRISY and replace it with his name. My God!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 12:01pm On Feb 04, 2018
patrickmuf:
How do people draw conclusions, how many times have we swooped in to snatched a player from under the noses of City?
I don't get how someone will comfortably think we offered more money or we went after a City target, Sanchez is one of the biggest name in the league and it is not surprising to see most top clubs after him. You're making it sound like once City indicates interest, everyone else should back down.
I know it's because Pep said they don't have the kind of money Sanchez wanted that this fan boy of his won't let us have peace, for him, whatever Pep says is the holy grail. For people like Pep and his bootlickers, once he indicates interest in a players, the said player must abandon everything and rush to the Etihad stadium, even some disciples of Christ thought twice before jumping on the bandwagon but no, since it's Pep, players must lower their demands, submit transfer request, go on strike and so on. Nonsense!!!
The disappointment of losing Sanchez might just see some folks take their own life.
I've never seen a slave to another human like that guy. I never knew supporting or liking another human will lead to hypocrisy on a whole new inexplicable level, till I read the posts of that guy. It's shocking. How can one drop common sense about football knowledge coz of a fellow human? I pray Pep is paying him for this kind of disgraceful thinking and defense, If not, then it's a damn shame.

Maybe, I'd become a total idiot just to win a dumb argument by insinuating it's because Roma wanted to sign Mahrez that made Man City willing to shell out 60m which they deemed is his true worth, to buy him. Maybe because Madrid, Arsenal and PSG were interested in Mbappe that's why Man City would have spent over 100m to bring Mbappe if he had chosen City.

The same dumb analogy can be said about City who knew about Barca and Madrid interest in Jesus and still went for him.

The same dumb analogy can be said about City who knew about Bayern and PSG interest in Sanchez and yet were ready to move mountains to get him.

Same as Robinho, Berbatov (City tried to hijack a deal that Fergie had been been fighting all summer to seal) and the rest. It shows how backward, worshipping a human can lead to that once a club is interested in any player, every other clubs should back off because his idol, Pep is the alpha & omega of football. Every knee must bow down in obeisance whenever he indicates interest in any player. Pep can go for players other clubs are interested in, but if Pep is interested in a player, any club that gets him is fighting a god and very desperate.

If there's one thing I've learned in this whole IQ-reducing debate from him, it's that hypocrisy leads to incurable amnesia. If not tell me why a Barca fan whose club's desperation and hijacking of deal led to one of the most disgusting and shocking football malpractice of all time. He won't remember of the Neymar deal because of his hypocrisy. Neymar deal was hijacked by Barca, who knew Neymar had already had medical with Madrid as a 14-year-old. Neymar even PASSED a Madrid medical prior to signing for Barca, but Barca went behind to pump more money to Neymar and his father to hijack a deal Madrid was interested in from the beginning. The greatest desperation and hijacking of all time.


A deal so shady, nobody truly knows how much Neymar was paid except for the dumb figures they churned out to deceive the gullibles. A deal so shrouded in betrayal, secrecy with every element of fraud oozing from it, that Barcelona were taken to court, their president then shamefully dismissed/resigned and Santos wailed bitterly at how despicable Barca went about the whole deal to deny them of their fair cut in the transfer.


Yet, a Barcelona fan with a full grown iroko tree in his eyes will try to remove a branch from mine. Sanchez earns 500k a week, a figure nobody is sure of, a figure that other sites have reported as 350k a week, a figure that includes both image rights and other clauses, but ask him to bring out that of KDB's, he'll give you the basic 290k a week KDB earns while hypocritically leaving out the rest for his devilish reasons. Ask him how the sites were right in their assessment of Sanchez's salary to 600k a week, he'll start telling you about "dindinrin reasoning" and calculating mathematics nobody sent him to do, while still not being able to tell you how much KDB earns as image right, his signing-on fees, that of his agent, and other juicy bonuses/clauses in his contract.

This is a butthurt Pep stan who can't stomach the painment of losing Sanchez that he's clearly ignored the fact that Messi earned an unbelievable £80m just to sign a contract which is not included in basic salary or image rights or other bonuses. A deal if the total value over the duration of his contract is calculated well, will bring down Seun's servers. Yet he'll have the gall to come on here and spew his usual hypocritical claptrap. A Barca fan lecturing us on desperation after committing the worst crime in football during Neymar deal? I've seen it all.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:18pm On Feb 03, 2018
patrickmuf:
4-4-2 is easily 4-2-3-1 especially with a player like Sanchez involved.
Sanchez can comfortably play as SS/AM flanked by Martial and Mata who I'd have over Lingard for his ability to drift across the pitch and be part of our build up play. But all this depends on Pogba putting in a shift at the middle as you suggested.
Gbam!! If Pogba can just forget about pushing forward to attack all the time in a 4231 formation, and allow Martial, Lingard, Sanchez and Ukaku to chase down opposition players while him and Matic pick up the pieces snuff out impending danger, 4231 will serve us best. Like a football columnist pointed out, against Tottenham he's stuck on deciding if he's to attack or defend thereby leaving us exposed. He needs to apply the brakes on his attacking zeal against top teams when we're being dominated. Mctominay did today exactly what Pogba needs to be doing. Against small teams, he can dominate and join in attack but against top teams, he needs to help out his partner Matic. This way we won't be spending big on another midfielder to partner Matic coz if Pogba is moved to the AM position, it means Martial would be benched and I hate that.

But we still need one or two midfielders to replace Carrick and Fellaini, though.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 6:15pm On Feb 03, 2018
Leyqute:
Good performance all round. McTom displayed maturity throughout. He provided a balance between attack and defense.

And why didn't Huddersfield get at least one red card today? It seems their defensive tactics was to kick anything that has any form of semblance with Alexis Sanchez.
Blame the ref. He was never quick to flash the card at Huddersfield players who were out to hack us down. If na Pep na, he'd have been complaining about referees protecting players, I think he's right sha.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 6:14pm On Feb 03, 2018
patrickmuf:
I feel Mourinho asked the defenders not to push forward too much, at some point, I was screaming at Smalling and Rojo to push up as they had acres of space in front of them.
Well, the best tactic is to find the right balance. Push attack but run back like Sanchez or Lingard to win balls back. But if keep cultivating the attitude of just defending against top teams, we've no chance of winning most of the time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 6:10pm On Feb 03, 2018
patrickmuf:
Sanchez is just quality, Jose has got to find a way to blend in Pogba, Sanchez, Martial and Lukaku...

After the substitution, I expected Rashford to man the RW but Mourinho shunted Martial to the right again, I don't get why.

Mata is a tidy footballer, uses his brain more. He was very well involved in our goals.
Mourinho should try the 442 Funlörd suggested. Martial or Rashford on LW, Lingard or Mata on RW, Pogba pushed forward while Matic mops up from DM. If we can press as hard as City, we don't have to lose possession and get caught on the counter. Pogba needs to work hard like KDB as well for this formation to work. But if Mourinho wants to continue like this, then Martial has to be benched or learn the RW role coz Sanchez is best from the LW from where he roves.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 6:04pm On Feb 03, 2018
afrodoc2:
Good all around performance, but when facing bus-parking teams like this Valencia and Shaw must show more attacking drive and creativity.
This was why Guardiola went all out to buy Mendy and Walker at all cost coz in this modern times, full-backs attack relentlessly to pin oppositions back and help create outlets for the CF to score
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 6:00pm On Feb 03, 2018
ctuagent007:
Although he scored the 2nd goal, he really has lots of work yo do & he holds the ball for too too long....Mata's one time assist cannot come from a Sanchez that would have preferred to dribble that defender like Hidden hazard does

I understand he wants to bring those defenders out but the guy dey too do am
Happy with the 3pts....don't 4kin care about City but those behind us naim matter pass
Apart from few players like Carzola and Azplicueta who can cross with both legs, few players who are right-footed can cross with their left leg. That's why it's good to have a left-footed LB to play behind Sanchez for the crosses while he tries to stretch opponents and cause havoc for us.

This was why I complained bitterly about us playing a right footed Young or Darmian as our LB coz they can't cross one-time football when they are given a through ball. So Sanchez not crossing immediately wouldn't have been out of order. Mata wouldn't have crossed that ball immediately he's on the right wing. No surprises there. Sanchez is giving us exactly what he's supposed to give us, though there's room for improvement.

Sanchez is a terrific player. His work rate and energy are off the charts.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:12am On Feb 03, 2018
ChristineC:
this reeks of something familiar, but let's all dance to the 'care' tunes and move on.
The guy's hypocrisy numbs me. This was the same fella dishing facts against us out of his hurt over Sanchez's deal, and when asked to back it up, he said it's based "on deductive reasoning". I'm going to try to stop quoting his posts because I'm tired of his hypocrisy.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia:
Eruditor:
Now the difference between these and what your United do is, in the cases above the clubs themselves set the value. If an interested club cannot pay they look elsewhere (which is what City do). United could have jumped on the Auba deal for example to offer Dortmund 90M and the player 450k a week. That's desperation even if it is allowed.

I mean, Perisic was offered to you guys at a value which Ed felt was too much, fine. I bet if City wanted to pay the stipulated value Ed would have swooped in to offer something 20M higher with outrageous wages to boot. That is desperation.
The main reason I hate engaging in debates with you is that when it comes to Pep, your hypocrisy is so nauseating - not even because of your long epistles. You're ever ready to defend anything about Pep that you don't even know even know when you are shooting yourself on the foot. In the first paragraph you're mocking United for not being like City and other clubs and walking away from deals deemed too expensive, in the second paragraph, your amnesia kicked in because within few seconds you also listed a case of Perisic where we walked away. This is what hypocrisy causes.

Other clubs walks away, you say? After Chelsea had almost signed Robinho, which club swooped in at the last minute, offer Robinho more riches and snatched him from Chelsea? I guess that club is Shooting Stars of Ibadan. Your hypocrisy stinks!!

After United had already signed Mikel, didn't Chelshit swooped in and snatched him right under our nose with more money? Why didn't they walk away? Did you see us United fans still wailing about it? But due to Pep is involved, suddenly other clubs save United walks away from a deal. Your hypocrisy stinks!!

From the beginning of time, clubs have always been hijacking deal by offering more incentives to a player. It's not a bad thing. Even your beloved Barca have done it in the past, but because United are involved, suddenly OTHER clubs walks away not us. Did Chelsea walk away even after it's clear that Tottenham had already agreed deal with Willian? You're here trying to make a normal occurance that's been happening since time immemorial to look bad because we got Sanchez. Your hypocrisy stinks!!

Your post is just a skyscraper of hypocrisy. Man City have been chasing Messi for years, with rumors even saying they offered him a blank cheque. Even when it's clear that Barca have made it clear that they're not selling their prized possession, but yet your saintly City didn't walked away. It boils down to who wants it more and who's ready to pay to get a player which is not a bad thing as most clubs do it depending on their financial strength. When PSG snatched Dani Alves from City even though he'd already agreed to join City, I didn't see your wailing calling them out for being desperate enough to offer Dani Alvez more money to take him from City. Even Loserfool had to hasten up to sign Van Dijk and flew their medical personnels down to Bournemouth Airport to conduct medicals on VVD before Man City snatched him from them. I repeat, your hypocrisy stinks!!


Last season, Bayern Munich and PSG were not "desperate" enough to land Sanchez because Bayern didn't have the money for the wages he's asking of, while PSG refused chasing the deal because they already had Neymar and was on the brink of getting Mbappe. Sanchez was no longer a priority target. Look bro, the difference between City and United in this Sanchez's saga was that in the summer City were fùcking desperate to get him and United weren't, this time around United were now the desperate ones and City weren't. What changed?

Last season City finished trophyless. Pep was in a "desperate" mood to overhaul his squad, so he's willing to meet the huge amount clubs were asking for his targets, even when many people were complaining he didn't care. City were so desperate that they're ready to pay a whooping £70m for the services of Sanchez but Mourinho no send Sanchez then. We used to complain back then that Mourinho should be rivaling Pep for Sanchez's signature and that United were dulling in letting City being the only competitor for his signature. . Note that this hypocrisy you're projecting now is seriously irritating because City would've spent more than United in the total cost of signing Sanchez if they had landed him last year because:

1. Man City would've forked out £70m Assanal valuation of him.
2. City would've paid agent fees.
3. City would've paid Sanchez's signing-on fees.
4. City would've paid Sanchez a weekly fee of 300-350k, especially with how desperate other clubs wanted him after a fantastic season.
5. City would've also negotiated and paid Sanchez other bonuses that comes with contract signing including the image rights.

When you add the above expenses to the fact that it'd be paid over a 4 years contract, if United are spending the purported £170m through out his contract, City would've paid within or even above the range of £200-300m for 4 years contract. Facts!! None of us have the real figures in his contract, but if consider we're getting him for free via a swap, and the fact that we just increased signing-on and agent fees and offered a bit more image right fees, then City would have still out-spent us if they had landed Sanchez on 4 years deal. That £70m alone for a player with a year contract remaining shows the zenith of desperation. Don't come here yapping about United being the only desperate club.

Now as I was typing, when City couldn't land him, they went ahead without him and started having an absolutely fantastic season. Not even Pep had seen it coming. Now, they no longer needed Sanchez that much. Sane is on fire. City are obliterating oppositions like it's nothing. The rumors were that City will come back at the end of the season to take him away, but then Jesus got injured, and City wanted to bolster their squad so they went back in January and heard that United had offered Sanchez more money in signing-on fees, agent fees and image rights. City knowing they don't need Sanchez that much, backed away. This is just the fùcking truth. If City was in United's position, they would've done all it took to get him. This excuse of Pep is balderdash if City could afford to spend more than 200m on Sanchez over a 4 years contract last season. It's balderdash if City have been chasing Messi for years who would cost up to 300m (before his new contract) with shocking wages. It's balderdash coz City were in the race of Mbappe who would've cost them not less than 120m not even including the agent fees, weekly wages et al. So, yes, United were the ones in desperate need of him now so they offered more. Last season City were in desperate need of him and offered more than Bayern and PSG.

City wanted Laporte, even though he broke Pep's heart by going back on his agreement with him to sign a new contract, Pep who the dumb columnists reported never forgives or goes back to his targets that betrays him, still went back out of his desperation to solve his defensive issues and broke the club's record to sign him. If City were as desperate as they were last season when they had a bad season, they'd pay the same amount for Sanchez!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:20am On Jan 24, 2018
Ibime:
Messi got 80m signing fee confirmed.
80 Whaaaaaaaat?!! shocked shocked


80m on top the 500k+ contract and other juicy bonus? Are you serious? shocked shocked

And these people are hyperventilating over 10m signing-on bonus of Sanchez? angry
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:12am On Jan 24, 2018
Eruditor:
If I urinate, your mum will guzzle it as the fountain of youth- and that is your mum, imagine what your neighbour's houseboy (your father) would do to my faeces. I could have that IQ you described above and still make hall of fame for intelligence in your painfully daft and irresponsibly dull-witted family lineage. Do you think you are engaging almajiris in Adamawa? Miss me with your pseudo-intellectualism.

I am sure the Lavezzi, Tevez and Mascherano also went to China because the owners showed ambition or Watford sacked 3 different managers because they want to win the EPL.

Wild animals are being counted and an Agama is nodding because he read heard (the dolt can't read) he descended from dinosaurs. Sod off, wannabe!
No offence intended, but the emboldened is an avalanche of bullshît. Better still, it's aptly described as apples and oranges. Makes no goddamn sense.

1. Watford have never spent the kind of huge money the likes of Shitty, United, Chelshit, Barcelona and other top clubs have spent in this modern transfer window in their entire history. Apples and oranges.

2. Watford are ambitious, but there own ambitions is survival in the EPL and having a good run generally in cup competitions or league. Any other achievements like winning the FA Cup, Caraboa Cup or qualifying for European competition is a bonus and a lucky achievement for them, so sacking managers is means of survival not to win major trophies. But when top clubs sack mangers, it's usually for them not making the UCL or winning trophies. Apples and oranges.

3. When Man Shitty sacked Pellegrini, they got Pep. Who did Watford get? When Man Shitty hired Pep, they did with the future dream of winning UCL, league titles and having the success Pep brought to Bayern, Barca. Which success or targets will Watford demand from the average coach that replaced Silva? Apples and oranges.

4. Watford after sacking the coach before Silva was appointed, how much did they spend, and what are the quality of players they bought? When Man City appointed Mancini, below is what a website had to write about their ambitions, and onslaught in the transfer window. Check out the players they got and how much they spent.

From the beginning, they identified that to have a winning team, capable of competing with United and the best clubs in Europe, given Uefa and the Premier League's squad limit of 25, they wanted two world-class players in each position.


That summer, the Abu Dhabi regime sanctioned and bankrolled Mancini's shopping with a vast financial outlay hugely beyond what the club could have afforded were it living on its own resources. City signed Jérôme Boateng from Hamburg for £10.5m; David Silva from Valencia for £26m; Yaya Touré, attacking midfield force from the great Barcelona, for £24m; Aleksandar Kolarov from Lazio for £19m; Mario Balotelli from Internazionale for £24m, and James Milner from Aston Villa for £26m. Then, in January 2011, they signed the striker Mancini had long coveted, Edin Dzeko, from Wolfsburg, for £27m, who turned out rather more of a game-changer than Lee Bradbury had been for Frank Clark's £3m. This incredible series of international player purchases, unparalleled by any other club, totalled £156.5m. That brought the expenditure from Abu Dhabi, on transfer fees alone, to £376.5m in just two seasons.
Man City's spending and the players they bought showed the higher ambitions of that club; Man City sack managers to aim higher, Watford sack theirs to escape relegation. Once again, apples and oranges.

5. Finally, the most funny one - You've the chutzpah to list Tevez, Mascherano and Lavezzi in your argument. First of all, the Chinese league just like the American league snap up mostly expired or waning TOP players who's past their prime (the young ones are usually average players or poor low tier ones) because theirs are still a growing league and need the influx of popular players to put their league on the map. They're not yet established. When LA Galaxy signed Beckham, they knew he's finished, or at least they signed him coz of his A-list status. He was signed to bring American league to the limelight. Beckham spent his prime at United and Madrid. It's same for Xavi and his Qatar quest. So if I find it funny that you're mentioning mercenaries and expired products like Mascherano, Lavezzi and Tevez who have their best years behind them. Who next will you mention? The Oscars, Anichebes and Ighalos of this world?

Chinese clubs owners are showing ambition like their American counterparts by bringing in this popular stars to help grow their league, while these expired stars are going their for the money. So yes, The Chinese club owners are showing ambitions, that's why they criticised Tevez for scamming them when they were dreaming of having a determined Tevez of yesteryears. Neymar moved from Barca to PSG but his dream of competing at the highest stage, playing in Europe's top competition and at the highest level were never in doubt. If he'd done the same with the Chinese league, everybody would've concluded it is for the money because Chinese league is a lowly rated league which top players in demand doesn't give a fùck about. If Lavezzi, Tevez and co moves to City, their ambitions are not questioned coz City is a top club in England and Europe top 5 league, but when they move to China, everybody knows the truth that's its about the money. The difference is clear.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:51pm On Jan 23, 2018
Eruditor:
It is before tax.

If City are to give him bonuses for his image, they will pay him a lump-sum of say 5M or 10M GBP. You saw Neymar's loyalty bonus in Barca, was it included in his wage? No. So the excuse that Alexis' huge wage is as a result of the image rights etc does not add up.
It's not a must and there's no rule that state all club must follow a certain pattern of payment. You don't know how clubs decides to negotiate their contracts. Some can do it on weekly basis, some might not. The loyalty bonus of Neymar is different from other clauses/bonuses in his contract. Neymar's image right, match bonus were different from his loyalty bonus for signing a new contract. Don't lump them together to win this argument.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:44pm On Jan 23, 2018

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 8:39pm On Jan 23, 2018
hardeycute:
If all add ons clauses is triggered,Maga Utd will be paying more.

After scoring his 25th goal the fee rises up to £47(pounds)

VVD is 70 with 5 in add ons
If? But it hasn't been triggered. Please let Dayo hear this sermon from you coz he's the one that quoted a figure that United haven't paid yet.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:44pm On Jan 23, 2018
raumdeuter:
Your favourite dailymail reporting

Sanchez, who is set to earn £505,000 a week when he signs for Manchester United, first propositioned her in a bar.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5293813/Alexis-Sanchez-offered-student-1-000-sex.html#ixzz552CdQL46
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Your dream website TheSun reporting

Sanchez about to earn 350k a week.

Read continously till you get tired:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5350541/alexis-sanchez-man-utd-transfer-henrikh-mkhitaryan-arsenal/
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:39pm On Jan 23, 2018
eph12:
It's only United players that receive bonuses and image right fees na
It shows the hypocrisy and glaring bias against us. KDB signed a new contract only his basic salary was reported. But Sanchez signs for United, his dogs' upkeeping wages are included.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:35pm On Jan 23, 2018
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:33pm On Jan 23, 2018
raumdeuter:
The link you posted here shows that Zlatan was receiving 220k a week as at November 2017

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:05pm On Jan 23, 2018
Dayo, according to you the link below was written in November 2017 and shows that its the current earning of Zlatan. So why are you asking me for another link? See wetin excess shekpe dey cause. You no dey see well again. Elrony, please help Raumdeuter with a serious deliverance session. He seems lost.

http://sportsmaza.com/football/manchester-united-players-salary/


grin grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:00pm On Jan 23, 2018
raumdeuter:
You mistakenly posted a link that shows Zlatan taking a 225k pay cut, you posted a link saying Zlatan actually started on 200k
Both links were posted by you. How you wan find 25k to help Zlatan pay for his gbese wey he dey owe weekly
Story for the Amalanomics. Refute my dailymail link of Zlatan earning 200k. I'm sure you must scavenged through the pages and not finding any wrong English or date, started bringing up this irrelevant yarn. Swallow your L, don't be shy.

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