₦airaland Forum

^^^ soon take their poor asses back to

asha 80:
There is no need cursing if you are not sure of what you are saying.So because 'their illegal' houses were demolished that is why they are on the street begging  

Are you even conversant with lagos and nigeria as a whole to make this assertion  

So all the beggars in other parts of nigeria do so out of 'their demolished houses'?

obviously they are the ones who set up shanty towns which are illegal

stop asking stupid question

IF YOU ARE HOMELESS WHERE DO YOU LIVE?

THE STREETS

WHAT DO YOU DO?

LOITER

IS IT A CRIME?

YES

What did i say you fool

Isaid they have illegal houses which are demolished leaving them to beg on the street and loiter. Loitering is illegal and one can be sent to jail.

so fashola is being nice by not sending them to jail and sending them where they came from

asha 80:


Is this the law backing it up?

its a law that backs up illegal housing further cause these migrants to beg /loiter which in return is a problem for lagos government. Jail or back to your homeland

asha 80:
Can you pro vide any law backing it?

The Land Use Act of 1978 vests all lands in the hands of the Government and does not allow for the private ownership of land by individuals or corporations. According to the Act, the Governor of each state has the power to allocate urban land, and local area councils have the power to allocate rural land.
The Land Use Act makes it illegal for indigenes to allocate land without prior government approval. However, this has seldom been enforced. Hundreds of thousands of people live in these informal settlements because they do not have access to affordable housing in the formal market within a reasonable distance to their place of employment.

More than 12,000 people have been forcibly evicted from their homes in Lagos since January 2005. The most recent of these evictions occurred in April 2006 when the State Task Force on Environment demolished over 300 homes at Ogunbiyi village in Ikeja, Lagos, leaving 3,000 people homeless. Approximately 3000 residents of the slum community of Makoko were evicted in April 2005. The residents were not given prior notice of the planned evictions and were not provided with alternative housing or compensation for the destruction of their homes. The Federal Ministry of Housing and Urban Development demolished hundreds of homes in Aboru Abesan, Ikeja, rendering 6,000 people in January 2005.

mikeansy:
What you guys don't understand is that Ibrahim Shekarua and his Hisbah Army will as well have the right to round up non-indegenes in Kano and dump them wherever he likes.

Who defines the norms of any society other than the constitution? who decides what is and what is'nt acceptable? other than the constitution?

When this escalates, folks should bear withness that Fashola Started it.

No society treats its weak like Asylum seekers. Only in Nigeria can you hear folks justifying such nonsense. I know there is a good chance these folks are not even Nigerians (But so long as that has not been established they can only be assumed to be Nigerians). But so long as we continue to shy away from the truths and debates that will set things straight, we have a duty to live with the Status Quo.

WHAT FASHOLA AND THE LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT ARE DOING IS CRIMINAL UNDER THE LAW.

IT IS LEGAL WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND

Fashola has stated he wants TAX PAYERS and no shanty towns ( shack houses popping up out of nowhere). If you cant afford decent homes them you cant live in lagos.

mikeansy:
If people don't pay taxes you either fine them or jail them

If people put up illegal buildings you relocate them to a new home while detroying the illegal buildings

If people are lotering you take them to welfare homes

To relocate people to the middle of nowhere, where you don't even have jurisdiction without the consent of the local powers is illegal.

That is why they deportation powers all arround the world which most times are executed in agreement between the two Countries concerned. Yet in this case we are talking about Nigerians being ejected against their will and without a court order.

I am not particularly critical of what Fashola did, but its important to speak the truth.

how can you fine someone who doesn't have proper funds to pay them?

i agree with you but welfare homes for people who cant afford rent ?

what investor will build homes for people who cant pay rent?

what documentations do they have?

mikeansy:
Folks this issue is as complicated as Nigeria itself

As a country that claims to be one, every 'Nigerian' have the right to live where they like and the first reaction to this is that what Fashola has done is illegal under the law.

But as a guy who has lived in the North for one year during my service year, I have seen how people are willing to sabotage the boarders and allow non Nigerians from Niger Republic to come through the boarders and live amongst them. And most times these people tend to head further South which is why population is out of control in Nigeria.
So from this point of view you can see that while Fashola's action may not be supported by the law, how else do you deal with a situation like this

But the lesson in the long run is that, Fashola is already practicing devolution on many fronts and I think other States should try to see how much devolved powers they can excersize.

We are supposed to be a Federal Republic and various States should begin to excersize there devolved powers.

it was legal you cant live in lagos and not pay taxes. Pitching up shanty towns is illegal, loitering is illegal and that is what these people do.

jail or leave

3spade3:
Ok, your point?

my point is you're wack

I said 5 tiny igbos states, that map is based on unwritten lines we are talkin about real geographical state lines.
You see igbos are everywhere but that doesn't mean where ever igbos are is their land.

Yorubas are in benin but that doesn't make benin yorubaland.

your map streches to ijaw, edo, calabar,urhobo populated states

try again tho

the northern clashes with yorubas in lagos

ezeagu:
I don't get it.

i dont get your map either as i said 50 million igbos limited to a landlocked igboland/biafra

THE AMAKA:
i know these people are somewhat the cancer to society but who has ever heard of deporting nigerians in nigeria?
well they do come to lagos and beg and only bring the mega city down but i mean idk . . .

this is very unfortunate.

they come and beg not even look for job using their children

Afaukwu:
Are there beggars of Yoruba origin in Lagos? Answer is Yes; I have seen many of them. Have they been deported to their Yoruba states of origin? Are hausa beggars in Lagos of a different hue than Yoruba beggars in Lagos? Your guess is as good as mine.

yes ohh i agree thats why i said EVERYONE not just the northerners

If you cant pay taxes you must leave

What lowly stuff cause i have never heard of a yorubas leaving yorubaland to become beggars in the north or east and if its true its very uncommon.

asha 80:
No need arguing with a cow as you will viewed as one.

lol 50 million in ondo state abi? you sound so dumb

igboland isn't as big as ondo or oyo but you expect 50 million igbos to live there

asha 80:
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Since when?

loitering in Lagos is a crime duh!!! lol

asha 80:
You are fool if you do not know he was actually being sarcastic there.


Nigeria begins bitumen exploitation in Ondo State
07-02-05 Exploitation of the vast tarsand, otherwise known as bitumen, has started in Ondo State, with a promise that product from the mineral deposit would be experimented on some roads in the state.
Air-Vice Marshall Dagash, while addressing the assembly of host communities at an open forum on Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) held at Iju-Odo, Ondo State, said a number of roads consisting local, state and federal would be tarred, to ascertain the suitability of the product before offering it for sale to the outside world. The roads, which he said would be tarred in the next one month, would be a test ground for the progress the consortium has recorded in the exploitation of the hard mineral.

BEECON had carried out a lot of studies on the environment impact its operation could have on host communities, in line with the directive of the United States and "we obeyed this to avoid the mistake of the past," Dagash said.
"We have learnt from experience of the environment degradation of the oil exploration and exploitation. In a move not to repeat the mistake, that is why we are here today. That is why we put together a team of consultants to assist us on the way to start on a solid foundation."

He spoke on the problems caused by oil exploitation in the Niger-Delta region and said, "we must not fall into that pit, more so when we are indigenous company."
Dagash allayed the fear of the host communities on gas flaring, failure to pay compensation and insensitivity to the plight of the people.

Earlier, Chairman of the occasion and the Abodi of Ikaleland, Oba B.B. Faduyile, expressed joy that bitumen exploitation has commenced after much pessimism. He charged BEECON not to pay lip service to the welfare of the people and to avoid error of the oil areas.
"You are coming to our area to take away our mineral and to assist our people. To enjoy this joint venture, we implore you to understand the operation of our communities," he said.

Present at the forum were, Professors E.A. Fayose, A. Adefila, Mrs Kofoloja Olugbesan, Chief C.O. Ikuejiminu and Dr Niyi Okunlola among others
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/nta50835.htm


I guess ondo people are also running away from ondo.

Congrats but alot of rich ondo people live in Lagos so what is your point.
Ondo state is damn near bigger than igbo land lol clown, so of course they can always migrate IN Ondo state.
mind you ondo's population isn't 50 million lol clown

ezeagu:
Are you speaking to your brain or us, maybe it's because you've realised your comments were dumb and unfounded, "Please think" of your comeback. . . . . . . . with pictures.

i wasn't talkin to you so,

Damn 500 million

Wheres my mask and gun- traveling to anambra big money to be made lol

asha 80:
My friend which industrial plants or natural gas exploitation facility is any of the 5 igbo states?

ezeagu:
There are dozens of oil refineries in Enugu, there are oil refineries in Umuahia, there are oil refineries in Onitsha, there are oil refineries in Owerri, there are oil refineries in Aba, there are oil refineries in every corner of these cities polluting the air, Okwi ya?

please think

asha 80:
My friend which industrial plants or natural gas exploitation facility is any of the 5 igbo states?

So the people that leave around ikeja do not live around the industrial estate there?

Do you think before you type?

ikeja is commercial so think before you reply

Imo State has large quantities of Crude Oil and Gas deposits, which have not been fully exploited. Indeed investment opportunities abound in the areas of crude oil prospecting/exploration and production, establishment of oil refineries and petrochemical industries, establishment of mid-stream gas and fertilizer plants. - Imo

A United States-based company, Nevada Petroleum Resources Limited is planning to build a refinery in Abia State at a cost of US$100 million.- Abia

"South-Eastern Nigeria, which is mainly igboland, is endowed with abundant human and natural resources. In todays world of heavy demand in oil and gas it is important for the world to know that more than 70% of oil production in Nigeria is extracted from Igboland. " http://njikokandigbofamilyunion.com/index.htm

i mean your people wrote it not me lol

ezeagu:
You have absolutely no idea of what your talking about! You should actually research somethings instead of relying on hearsay and regurgitating other peoples arguments.

^^^ you have no idea what your talkin about  and need to live in Nigeria because you're Not Nigerian your parent is  

What did i say that was incorrect because lands in the east are being exploited for oil and natural gas.
As they're being exploited pollution increases.
Biafra those 5 tiny igbo states are land locked
Wealthy Eaterners live in Abuja or Lagos away from oil industrial plants- who wants to live next to an oil refinery?

i mean ,  stop being an american whos father is a biafran clown

agathamari:
do you have any idea how many women in the us and england die every year from abortion ?  how many abortion clinics are bombed every year in developed nations?  ever notice how abortion comes up in every election and how the catholic church has said for the last 400 years that abortions are a sin?  there are medications available from the red cross (yes here in Nigeria) that will prevent pregnancy when taked after rape.  as far as babies with birth defects how much of that is because the babay actualy has a problem that will cuse dificulties in the child like missing limbs and how much is the parents being selfish and not wanting to be burdend by a baby with a problem like down syndrome/cp/md/scoliosis and the like?

hmm the same clinics that give faulty HIV test and the same ones that transmitted aids through blood transfusions.
Lol  you're not serious and that is why Nigerians die of abortions which is a simple thing.
Clinics being bombed in America isn't common so lets stop that nonsense. every year you say is a joke
Catholics are against abortion for religious reasons, one cant govern a country and base everything on religion. They will never have laws against abortion because its ones personal choice.

Wise up if you dont like abortions dont get one but you can't stop someone else, its their personal choice.

jail or homeland lol

lol Fashola is governor of lagos and is doing everything to make lagos better

He is correct but his actions were wrong

legally he can lock up people for loitering and give them the choice JAIL OR HOMELAND LOL

nuzo:
I thought we were all "one" nigeria (beggers included).

Hypocrites!

Theres nothing hypocritical about what was said simple- If you do not have money to live in a specific area dont move there and build shanty towns, dont move there to become beggars, dont move there to increase crime, and devalue real estate .

FINALLY DO NOT MOVE TO A CITY AND LIVE POORER THAN HOW YOU WOULD IN YOUR OWN VILLAGE.

Fashola is correct hes doing it for their own interest

^^^ average dry american

eko o ni baje times a trillion

@ post -if you cant afford LAGOS go home all this overpopulating is fuckin Lagos up. Igbos who are not making money go home, Yorubas who are not making money GO HOME we dont need more poor people.

Everyone go home we tired of seeing deez damn okadas and danfo everywhere beggars on d street.

fayahsoul:
Lagos is the smallest state yet has the largest population and GDP. What does that tell u?

With efficient technology and resettlement in the many vast underutilized fallow lands, Igboland can contain and sustain three times the igbo population.

So don't believe the hype.

Im sure your're not familiar with the eroding land in the east, not to mention Biafra would be land locked, so you cant compare Lagos to Biafra.
Lagos its overpopulated by FAR. The government is now asking folks to pack up and go back to their homeland if they cant afford lagos.
Quality of EAST land is decreasing due to oil refineries, Gas plants and pollution. Which is why wealthy easterners move away from the east.