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BlueRayDick:
Oga there's nothing funny about my question. Loserpool with all Ur so called press lost the league to city despite despite playing the same 38 league matches everyone is expected to play before the league champion is decided.

I just pointed it out to u that loserpool had almost an almost injury free season and didn't win the league. Now they didn't do much in the transfer window to get other players to cover for their staring 11 in case they have injury. At least we've seen how the absence of Allison Becker has ensured they've conceded in their first 3 opening matches.

How they will cope when other key players get injured is what I'm talking about. At least city has Mahrez to play in place of Bernardo Silva, Fernadinho or Rodri playing in place of Gundogan, Stones in place of Laporte......etc.

I'm telling u while u are fixated on how strong loserpool seems on paper based on their first team, City is prepared for rainy days; which is what eventually decides the champion.

Fkhalifa:
They understood you, it's you who doesn't...

Some do not want him ahead of Torreira and Xhaka on any important game, they trust Xhaka 90% more, we score and concede less with Xhaka than Guen.

Some want him far from first eleven, they want him on the bench or u23 battling with Smith Rowe & Nwakwali, and if he can't still do wonders and shake Europe like the following:
McTominay,Jorginho, Fred,Harry Winks, Foden and Lingard, then he should be sold asap.

I hope its clear now? Use your head or I'll ask them to ban you from here.

Jencejyde:
I will have to objectively disagree with you on this. If the coach lays emphasis on fitness, teams can be equally or even better fit than liverpool. Pressing for me has to be organized. I may hate Mourihno with my guts but the man has one of the best footballing brains ever. Our pressing is outright nonsense when players are more than 10 yards apart of each other. Pressing should be done with same movement from the man up top to the Goalkepper Once than man Upfront makes a move , simultaneously the wide men, midfield men and defense should step up higher. Sorry to say but Arsenal's press has been non in-existence for some years now. Barcelona is the greatest example of press. They are well drilled and organized in doing that. You can hardly have 3 seconds on the ball when they press. This boils down to the coach and majorly to how the players execute the press. Unfortunately one cannot say where the blame lies. Is it the coach or the players, but if you ask me. I always like to take responsibility as a player and i would say some of our players currently cannot be relied upon to press with co-ordination. One person that pressed well for us and i was mad when he left was Sanchez. Hate him or love him, he had his faults in giving away possession at times but if only the team around him were able to press in co-ordination with him. Im sure we would have won away at top six teams which we haven't in the past six years or so.

Now Mancity have players with exceptional ball retention and distribution abilities that have awesome awareness with simple one or two touch football to break any press, (closest we had then was Santi who by the way still won Villareal Player of the season. What a player!) But even mancity or any team at that will eventually make mistakes if pressed continuously with precision. We have seen Liverpool do it to them in the Champs league so it can be done. Problem is i really do not think we have the personnel plus i really do not know if this fits in with the overall philosophy of the coach.

BlueRayDick:
U seem to a regard loserpool so much. Yet u fail to see a man city team that has stocked enough players to play the whole season and beyond. Man city have a first team that is good and a 2nd team that is nearly as good as loserpool's first team.

Why u focus solely on Losperpool I never know, but u should know there's a reason loserpool never won the league last season even with a fuuky fit Allison Becker in blistering form.

Loserpool will definitely fall apart when injury creeps in, but same can't be said of city who have at least two above average players playing each position on the field.

I don't knkw how loserpool will survive 4 weeks without van Djik and Sallah.

Jencejyde:
The way i refer to aggression in this context is saying, "we need to close spaces quickly and not allow any livepool player time on the ball" When teams do warm up, the purpose is mainly to get them up to speed before the game so it beats me when our team still starts slow. In hindsight, when we look at the game against burnley. Burnley was unto us from the whistle. the pressed us endlessly form Minute 1 to 90. Unfortunately they do not posses the quality we do which is why they are still below par but effort and discipline from them was spot on. same cannot be said of our team most times. Agreed that our failure to put away those chances could have changed the scope of the game but since we did not score, why not still put pressure on them with quickly closing space and forcing more errors. A top team should must not allow an opposing team player more than 5 seconds on the ball. Some liverpool players could stay with the ball for more than 20 seconds in that game and no one would close them down. Again i will agree with you on the setup of the team which i believe overworked the midfield players, what on earth were do they doing having to close both flanks and at the same time cover the midfield? Its really bizarre. I am not one for tactics cos all i ever played against any team was pure 4-4-2 and it does not matter who the opponent was . I can assure you they cannot get more than 5 seconds on the ball in the midfield or my attacking third. That was a guarantee! So when i see our players allowing the opponents so much time, i just feel sick within. It makes me wonder what fitness levels they have and what the coach really wants. Well the jury is out on emery as he starts his second season for us to know what he really demands. Remember also when OX was sold to liverpool that the fitness regime at liverpool were surprised at how unfit he was and had to take him through a whole new fitness programme to get him up to speed to play the way Klopp demands. So many things yet to be done to get us back to that level we ought to be but i guess it may take more time than imagined

kokanepyramid:
No one here said he can’t improve, but trying to overhype his performance while comparing him with Torreira, etc and attacking those that don’t rate him was uncalled for.

Secondly, u can’t be patient with a player at the detriment of team results, he can come on as sub in EPL games and gradually grow into the games + there is the FA CUP, EFL and Europa.

What some don’t understand is Guen will come and go, the fact that he will improve is probable too as it’s not a certainty. He can even improve and decide to leave the club for a higher bidder, while we’ve suffered poor runs in the past just for him to grow.

Spy360:
I never really expected much from the game. A point at Anfield is approx. 6points total.
My interest was to assess how much we have improved as a team. And I am quite impressed, especially with the development of youngsters like Willock and Guendouzi. They are not there yet, but the potentials are there.

A fit Torriera could have started though, he offers much in terms of intensity, drive and stamina. In all, I always leave a coach to his decisions. There are other reasons for selection which we can never tell; such as psychology, motivation and drive.

Roland17:
Anytime you PLAGIARIZE especially verbatim without giving credit, I will call you out and if that is your interpretation of "telling you what or what not to do", I will be patiently waiting for you to do your worst brother.

That's it for me.

Spy360:
Good points you guys have noted. We need more quality discuss here bordered on facts and opinions rather than emotions and sentiments.

Better use of English too.

It is a thing of joy to have the headache of selection for any manager. It allows for more tactical fluency and exchange.

Torriera, Xhaka, Willock, Guendouzi and Ceballos are our main midfielders this season (at least so far) and to be honest I am quite impressed of the performances and development. Any three could start a game depending on the tactics and give us quality results. Though they all have their strengths and weaknesses, yet I think they compliment each other well.

Against Spurs, I would like to see a Xhaka, Ceballos, Torriera combo, with Auba, Laca and Pepe ahead of them.

On the Liverpool game, If only Emery had introduced Laca earlier- with score still at 1-0, which would have allowed Auba and Pepe move to the wings, and our fullbacks to push up a little and keep those Liverpool's fullbacks on check, game probably would have taken a different turn. Regrets.

Roland17:
Without mincing words, I will tell you to stop PLAGARIZING and in the rare instance you have never come across that word, I will tell you that it is a crime and one punishable under the law here in the US. If that is telling you what to do, I will tell you and anybody else breaking that rule over and over again, if you don't like it, you can hit your head on the wall next to you. You are intelligent enough to create/ formulate your own analogies and posts instead of copying and pasting word for word ideas by others so yes, I can call you and anybody else out for PLAGARIZING. You will not be the first person I am calling out for PLAGARIZING on and off this forum and you will not be the last. I do not need your validation or that of anyone's here for that matter.

Roland17:
Baba, please tell me you are joking with what you just posted about Torreria up there!!!! You obviously typed these untrue comments to accommodate the now despicable excesses of Guendouzi and when he is called out for not being good enough to start games, you have resorted to belittling Torreira to the irresponsible point. Torreira is a totally different player from Kante, Kante can not boast of the Torreira's ball technique and passing range neither can Torreira match Kante's defensive attributes but it does not mean Torreira is not a good DM/ CM. Torreira is a very good defensively but has better offensive upside. Torreira offers more than Kante in today's game and it is not surprising as to why Chelsea under Sarri started playing him higher up the pitch with hopes that he develops some offensive skills which Torreira has in abundance. I love this team passionately and have a lot invested in it outside of my emotions and that is why I support everyone in the team but I detest when you put down a player so the other can look better and that is what you are doing outrightly. I am one who protects my players in the face of brash criticisms but I never fail to call them out including players that I have a special feeling for.

"A fit and handy Torriera will come handy", "A liability on the pitch"! What in the name of football do these mean? So we should keep our best midfielder on the bench because we need him in the long haul and then continue to rotate between Willock, Guen, and Xhaka? Common man!!!!!!! this is becoming nauseating to read and disrespectful to the team. Torreira started the game against Liverpool at the Emirates and performed excellently, we got a result in that game. Is it a surprise that after Torreira was introduced to the line up last season, we actually started picking points and looking potent? But somehow because your golden boy did not start either game you want to heap all the blame of the loss at Anfield on Torreira? ARE YOU KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW? Let me make it very clear, if your attempt is to compare Torreira with Guendouzi, I will tell you that Torreira is a demon and the pinnacle of Guen's game at this time can not lace the sole of Torreira's worst. Honestly, if for some reason Torreira leaves Arsenal because he is unhappy with his playing situation, I will never forgive Emery and your likes. I know you love your Guendouzi so do I and many other fans but the global consensus including your favorite Reddit is that Torreira should not be sacrificed for him or anyone for that matter.

No be everything/ opinion you read on www.reddit.com especially the ones that support your school of thought about the team, you go come carry post, word for word for here.

Accept my apologies if this post comes off aggressive and I hope it does not change your opinion about your preferred players because after all, we are all entitled to our respective opinion(s).

BlueRayDick:
What I'm telling u is city has a team that has been trained to beat any press and they've been doing that well. The almighty Loserpool team was rattled by Chelsea even without one or two of their keymen.

Maybe Losperpool will try to press like they always do, but City too will beat the press like they alwasys do. The rule won't be handing loserpool any easy route

Jencejyde:
People mentioned Xhaka played better in the second half which i agree but my question is this. Why not start with that same intensity in the first 15 to 20 mins of any game? Its not until you concede a goal or the other team takes their foot of the pedal that you now start playing aggressively. The first 15 to 20 mins of any football game is critical. A game could be over in 20 mins if one is careless and these set of arsenal players are guilty of this again and again. The mentality should be to match the aggression of the opponent very early on in the game. A goal changes everything and if with decent aggression we come up with a goal even against the run of the play, then the impetus is on the opposition to try and get on level terms which will make it a more open game. Anytime i watched Barcelona play (xavi and iniesta days) and they score a goal against the opposition, i just tune off because for me its game over, but when the opposition scores first, then for me, its going to be a very interesting game. Arsenal need to start games strong, its shows weak all round character in a team when you cant lift yourselves to match the opposition aggression in the first 15 to 20 mins of any game. We have seen it even at the emirates that until maybe we go one down or flurry of attacks on our goal, it's only then that they realize they have come to play. We cant keep starting games like that. Eventually there will be games where it takes just one goal and they lock it down for us to lose all three points regardless of the opposition.

BlueRayDick:
How exactly will they suffer?

City switch play more than anybody. All those pressure loserpool mounted on arsenal that yielded result was because arsenal doesn't have the right players to play what Emery was trying to do. All those Guendouzi,Xhaka cannot transit the ball to the forwards as quickly as dem Debruyne, Gundogan do.

Forget all those press loserpool do, playing high line defence. They will be conservative against city and wouldn't leave sterling or Barnado Silva to Van Djik like dem Auba yesterday.

BlueRayDick:
Oga u are not really getting my point. I said the new goal kick rule makes play easier for teams who are very good at playing from the back( which obviously arsenal is not one of). If u've watched city play this season u will understand what I mean, how easy it is for Ederson to pass to Laporte or anybody that plays at center back and transit the ball forward. I think somethingike that happened in that spurs match.

Arsenal does not have the right set of players to play from the back against ordinary burnley, na dem wan come play from back against loserpool? The rule or no rule, arsenal will fall under pressure playing from the back with a player like Maitland Niles at RB

BlueRayDick:
On the contrary. The rule makes it easier for u to build from the back if u are good at it like dem city.

It will only be difficult for a wannabe team

Dreamswayne:
What new goal kick rule is that?

Fkhalifa:
Teams like Newcastle after having spent that much, won't respect you because you are a big team I said this league isn't the hardest in the world for nothing..

Not all 3 points will be easy, gone are those days big teams roll over the mid tables..

I'm sure Poch would have preferred 3 points to domination..

Even Burnley nearly won at Wolves
Every game should be like a final, 3 points 1st before anything else.

Ask utd fans what they felt from Palace.

Fkhalifa:
Tottenham not finding it easy.
Someone break Son's leg ahead of Nl derby.

kokanepyramid:
eph12/2 is trolling

eph12:
Mourinho is a free agent

Fkhalifa:
Emery no want media attention this week, he knew they were going to be busy on utd and Solkjer,

1-2 loss to palace go get more headlines than 3-1 to European champions..

Its still this same fans that will call for his sack and call him Wenger 2.0, you'd seen stuffs like, where's the mental strength, Rubbish our transfer activities and put unrest in the dressing room.

The most important thing is win all the easier games, try and get at least draw on tough 4/5 grounds and forget anything at Etihad and Anfield. But they will call me a pessimist.

Fkhalifa:
I hated that we faced Liverpool too early, poor Ceballos that's still settling jejely, they showed him fire at Anfield, Torreira looks better now on that ground, Na all of them gather suffer last year..

Even the Ozil,Xhaka, Ramsey they mentioned, chop several cricket scores together, abeg let's hear word, I'll rather be patient with this kids than those scammers.

Fkhalifa:
I dont see the point in being “brave” if you are in reality just getting slaughtered. When we have done well away against big teams, we played more compact. It’s fun in theory to think a wide open game will mean we win, but we’ve already seen how that goes because Wenger has done it so many times and failed so many times.

The above is fans opinion that explains it more, I noticed Chelsea, utd and Spurs keep it tight and lose honourably against superior teams. Wenger's philosophy of we are an attacking team, go out and play them was the reason for our cricket scores...

What I hate the most is trashing 5-1, 6-0 haba, it dents confidence and affects team's psychology. I hate seeing - minus on our goal difference.

Fkhalifa:
They only looked matchable with our tactics, we made their attack ordinary and defence prone to counters, I dey you if we had attacked them, it will be 5 in our net, you don't allow mane and Sallah to run at Anfield, they ill kill you, is it Niles or Montreal that'll survive their pace?

This was mourinho's tactics those days in big away games, he either gets his result or lose honourably he allows you dominate him, but his deadly forwards will kill the game off,unfortunately Our forwards blundered it..

Our midfielders sat too deep and we had no attacking player among them, only ceballos and he didn't look sharp today.

Though Torreira is sharper and better than the rest,he should have been brought on earlier on.

Fkhalifa:
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Help me ask how the following midfileders faired Vidal,Rakitic,Verrati Rabiot,Marquihos busquet at Anfield

Abi Neymar,Cavani,Di maria and Mpabbe no chop big L outaa Anfield?

Messi nko? Suarez and coutinho see say Anfield don change gidigba pass how them leave there..

Na then you come expect Xhaka,Guendozi,Willock to do wonders?
We never reach that level, we still dey in progress jare