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I have been the most uncompromising critic of the President and First Lady,because they are corrupt.

but there is SCARCITY of KEROSENE. Is kerosene not fuel?

The voters from the South East and South-South who support GEJ are doing so for their selfish interests and greed. You see nepotism and tribalism are evils.

agabaI23:
Chei! Baileys na woman drink oo.

agabaI23:
What's on the table for you? ^^^^

A. Shine shine bobo? B Green and while(heineken) C akara and akamu?

dayokanu:
How many bombings did you hear about pre GEJ?

We used to think bombings are things for Middle east not now

Kay 17:
Goodluck is the head of government, he is in control of the security agencies and therefore lapses in security are vicariously his fault.

If he cannot handle the security dilemma, then he should not bother running for presidency. He can go on and gist with his wife.

Since he has entered office, life and property have not being so unsafe!

13volts:
Updated for those asking of the location.

Check ekeremor and Sagabama areas in bayelsa that's where the shootings took plays.

GenBuhari:
@somze,
The links u posted are not credible websites as they are anti-Buhari and is owned by corrupt individuals.

GenBuhari:
Buhari was an overwhelming econonmic success!

GenBuhari:
reduced inflation from 39% to 5%

GenBuhari:
Paid off all our genuine debt

GenBuhari:
Refused to devalue the Naira leaving it at approx N1.00=$1.00

GenBuhari:
Tell which subsequent president has better economic figures.

GenBuhari:
My rebuttals does not need any links to back them up, it is common knowledge and anybody willing to do little research would find everything I said is verifiable.

Sagamite:
Utter rubbish!

The so-called militants are a fragmented group that goes beyond MEND and had several other groups with different selfish interests and even single-individual self-enrichment agenda. Virtually all have been quiet since local boy got in. You don't even hear from the demented Asari Dokubo anymore.

Because one or at best 2 of the several fragments is not satisfied or does things once in a while to [maybe] divert more funds their way to keep them calm is not proof to debase the arguments that militants have cooled due to their "own being in power". A majority have calmed down because of local boy. You can't possibly keep all groups, and the powerful individual units within them, quiet by one policy (same is found with IRA, that is not even that much fragmented, with the real IRA steal bombing). Even if you go and take an Ayatollah from Iran and install him in Afghanistan to implement Sharia law, Taliban will stop insurgency, but there will still be small fragments of Taliban that will continue fighting. It is logic, stop fighting logic!

Don't be ridiculous, of course logic will tell you not all individuals will have the same thinking and ideology that "a local boy is in power and it is enough". That is impossible, logic should tell you that. Some few will still have their separate criminal agenda of self-enrichment or ideological craziness that "Nigeria will not have peace until real proof of development in Niger Delta is in existence". Those few do NOT disprove the fact that majority have calmed down because "our own is in power plus we have been settled as well with training and free salary, lets make it easy for him" (we have got something for ourselves and something is possibly their for our community because na our son get power). That is the irrefutable traits of a tribalistic society. One which is heavily embedded across Nigerian regions. Definitely, it is not some genius stroke, as you want to dishonestly tell us, of GEJ that has reduced drastically the activity.

Sagamite:
So you are no more claiming he initiated the programme? That was a Yaradua Programme he is just administering?

And that is his great achievement you could summon up?

Amazing!

GenBuhari:
Are u aware that IBB took over in August 1985 and increased our debt by taking IMF loan?

Sagamite:
I have logic.

To get facts, you will need to be there physically when decisions are made or go and do a survey. Imperious logic is sufficient.

And it will be clear to anybody with a reasonable and unbiased mind that in a country as tribally sectionised like Nigeria, such is the OBVIOUS! It is obvious to a top mind that it is the norm in Nigeria to think "If our own is there, then our area will get better". That is part of the fundamental core of tribalised thinking which is endemic in Nigeria.

Imperious Logic!

Please highlight to me the threats, kidnapping and bombings that existed after Jonathan took over. I wait.

Sagamite:
Ok, let me re-state what I asked for. Maybe it would help you.

What I asked for was:

Why don't you help us summarise the points that

1) Shows GEJ is competent for the job.
2) Indicates his achievements.
3) Shows why he is better than the other main candidates.

If you are struggling to understand that. What I allude to is:

- Not plans but tangible achievements.  Something ALREADY done, that he started and has completed.
- Something extra-ordinary that he has done that inspires you.
- His address and approach to the major issues, ESPECIALLY the one that inspires Nigerians and reshape our thinking. Not "the CBN is setting interests rates"! As if they are not suppose to do that.

Kobojunkie:
Very untrue claim. Jonathan did not initiate this. This program  was worked on, and started by Yar adua himself. On Skills Acquisition centers, that also yar adua, and in some part the oil companies!

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/08/militancy-ptdf-niger-delta-ministry-to-train-youths-on-skills-acquisition/

Kobojunkie:
@Somze, there is evidence that 95% of what you claim there are false. A simple Google search would reveal this to even the dullest out there.

Sagamite:
Explain to me if this was not under the plans set up as Amnesty by Yaradua.

Sagamite:
Cut the crap! The militants are more relaxed now their own is in power. It is only a natural human reaction after years of feeling marginalised and losing out. Don't BS me!

Sagamite:
First of all, stop the misinformation. The EFR was $46.5bn in Dec 2009.

Apart from it being lower than you put, has it not only been propped to $36bn because of the recent crisis in the Middle East after your Gorilla depleted it. Who do you think you are BSing?

Should it not be more, if not double at the moment considering the ME crisis. Explain to me what GEJ did with the funds? Bribe for PDP primaries? Keep militants quiet?

Sagamite:
Increase from what to what? At what costs? Tell me waht is fantastic about the increase.

Sagamite:
GEJ is great and has successfully carried out electoral reform if Jega gets it right, but GEJ has nothing to do with it and cannot be indicted if Jega fails?

Sagamite:
See Demographic indicators: http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/nigeria_statistics.html#78

Whilst you are at it, make sure you explain to me the logic of how 100% of adults registered to vote.

Sagamite:
Let me explain the logic to you: Haiti despite being death poor and just recently faced a national disaster did not have to postpone and election. You that are claiming your Silverback is great and has achieved electoral reform, had elections postponed at last minute.

I requested of you to name a country where such postponement has ever happened. I am waiting.

Sagamite:
Sorry, this is all you could summon up in a country bereft by corruption?

What a pathetic attempt.

So what happen to all those that Halliburton tried? Why has your Gorilla not filed charges against them despite the fact that people have been jailed in the US for giving the bribe and names have been provided to the Nigerian government of those that were bribed?

Gorilla Jonathan is great on Corruption? No convictions, no court cases in the 10 months?

Sagamite:
Provide your source for those figures and the cost. I wait patiently.

Sagamite:
And kidnappings?

And Jos?

And Jos again?

And Jos again?

Sagamite:
No single achievement identified. Gives me a list of things being done at the moment, which we don't know if it is being done well.

somze:
- Infrastructure: Trains are back. Five functional international airports. Total Data Coverage. Upgrade of Enugu Airport to International Status. Government has also taken over and completed the Edo State water supply project hitherto handled by the Petroleum Trust Fund.  Dredging of the Niger project, which was initiated by former President Umar Yar’adua was accelerated due to increased funding by President Goodluck Jonathan. The dredging is already 90% completed. Renovation and equipping of all Federal Medical Centres across the six geo-political zones. Refinery Output Capacity from below 30% output capacity are currently working 60-75% capacity depending on exact refinery.

Sagamite:
So they are doing irrigation? WOOOOOOOOOOOOW! The airports are function? WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW! NNPC entered agreement with fuel station owners? WOOOOOOOOOW! How the fck does that have anything to do wiht GEJ? Oh, I get it. If the NNPC does anything (which is BAU) right, GEJ is great. But if NNPC fcks up, it has nothing to do with GEJ. Right?

Sagamite:
Refineries are working at 75%? Really? Show me your source and then prove to me that it was because of GEJ! I wait.

Sagamite:
Soon [b]your pathetic arse [/b]will be telling me, GEJ is a great achiever because he attended a UN conference.

Sagamite:
More plans no achievement?

Sagamite:
So maintenance is now his major achievement? That is what makes you think he is more competent than other candidates that have achievements?

Sagamite:
What threats? If it was an Fulani man that was ruling you think the militants will be this calm?

Sagamite:
Maybe a part of our huge external reserve that was depleted by your Gorilla was being used to keep them quiet.

Sagamite:
Roadmap?

And so? This is the first time Nigeria is having roadmap?

Even Abacha did not have roadmap?

So writing roadmap is a major achievement? And you wonder why I call him Silverback Gorilla?

Utter Rubbish!

Sagamite:
This is major achievement? Appointing RECs is some major achievement of your Silverback?

What research did you do to make and assertion that more people believe the election will be free and free? It is ME you are throwing such ridiculous conjecture at? ME?

73m voters in a country of 150m where records show that 60% should be under-18? And you opened your gob to use that as evidence of progress without thinking? Tell me which countries you know that not only do all adults register to vote but also imaginary ones emerge. It is looking really "bright", is it not? Free and fair elections? Great GEJ! Great Silverback Gorilla! Stop talking utter sshyyyyyt!

Now name for me any other countries that were not in war or coming out of war that had to postpone elections at short notice.

When you fail, try and name one that did it even despite being in war or coming out of it. Then give yourself a mark. Make is an "F".

Even Haiti can organise an election, you are coming here to talk crap to SAGAMITE about some lame achievements that does not exist?

Sagamite:
And I wonder why you did not tell me his achievements on:


- Corruption
- Electricity
- Security
- Infrastructure
- Education
- Jobs

GenBuhari:
My friend a little research would show u that everything I said is verifiable.

Which claim are u questioning?

aisha2:
You can tell a lie a million times it will not make it through.

Ibime:
@ Somze,

So you dey hear dey yarn megedefegede, you never come greet us for Chelsea thread?

Which kain yarns you dey yarn sef say PDP brought mobile telecoms to Naija. I guess Guinea Bissau, Gambia and Senegal are also controlled by PDP cos I also see them making calls and selling recharge cards.

Abegi, mobile comms came to Africa when it did and everybody got it, even in countries way way poorer than Nigeria. What did PDP have to do with it?

The technology became available. Simples.

Sagamite:
- Niger Delta peace is not an outcome of a Jonathan action or plan. It is an outcome of militants having a local boy in power.

You can't have a Islamic fundamentalist given the presidency of Afghanistan and then the Taliban stop, then you heap praise on the fundamentalist's capability.

Furthermore, the amnesty plan you allude to was not a Jonathan plan or executed under Jonathan, he just maintained what was there. That said, that is neither here or there, it is small scale in the scheme of things. The real Koko is that Niger Delta is calm because a Niger Deltan is in power.

Moreso, we do not know how many millions is being siphoned to keep militants quiet.

Sagamite:
- Electricity. What "giant" strides? You give no points of tangible improvements and you are trying to use words to overblow what does not exist? His achievement in this sector you claim is "enormous"? How? What improvement have you seen that made it enormous? And you are the person that started of saying Logic should be King? Merely releasing funds is the "enormous" achievements? OBJ did not release funds? Or creating plans is the "giant" strides? OBJ's government did not have a plan?

http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/afrec/subjindx/123nigr.htm
http://www.oilgasarticles.com/articles/282/1/Nigerian-Power-Sector/Page1.html

Please try again and tell us the "enormous" and "giant" strides GEJ has made in the Electricity section. Please make sure your points fit the magnitude of the words you used. A common calculator can not be called nanotechnology.

Sagamite:
-Electoral Reform. Are you kidding me or something? You were the one that proposed Logic should be king yet you use interest in election as proof of electoral reform? Are you having a laugh?

There was never interest in elections in Nigeria before? Who do you think you are BSing? It is because of electoral reform that opposition candidates have a chance or the fragmentation of the PDP due to the breakdown of their zoning system? Who do you think you are BSing? Releasing records as required by procedural law is the reform you are talking about? Who do you think you are BSing? Delegates were not bribed at the PDP convention? Who do you think you are BSing?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12196959

nateevs:
How can one convince him not to vote for GEJ when these are his inherent perspective about employment?

Kobojunkie:
a) No Electricity

Kobojunkie:
b) No good healthcare
c) No good roads

Kobojunkie:
d) Education in dilapidated state
e) No jobs
f) Poverty rate about 30% higher today[/b]

userlist:
1.  When Alesiamegha was stealing Goodluck folded his hands and just watched? (Are you even a Nigeria? This is as opposed to what?)
2.  What was his achievement as deputy governor? (So deputies whereever you are have achievements?)
3.  He lied when he said he spoke to Yar'udua on numerous occasion when he was sick (Totally false, he made no statements and went on CNN to say he never spoke to the guy)
4.  His wife is as corrupt as any big corrupt person in Nigeria (Ribadu says he never handled those cases and they were false)
5.  No balls, remember how Turai caged him before and after he became acting president (I've seen positive arguments on this)
6.  Remember how security officials took over Abuja airport. (huh?)
7.  He was in-charge of the committee that looked after power generation during Yar'udua ()
8.  Said MENDs are not terrorist (Link?)
9.  Received Bode George with open hands (Arguable)
10. He said Babaginda is his mentor (Ribadu got endorsement from the same man. Buhari says Abacha is not corrupt.)
11. OBJ is his Godfather (and while we are spreading unsubstantiated rumors, let me say he just gave me a private jet for supporting him)
12. Tony Aneni is his Godfather (see above)
13. EFCC/ICPC is dead under his watch.(Ibori ran away from the country under whose watch? Igbinedion is facing new charges under whose watch?)
14. Halliburton/Siemens/Julius Berger scandal hasn't been giving priority (Deal was made in Halliburton scandal.)
15. Hasn't done anything about the bomb blast all over the country (Untrue)
16. External reserve depleted under his watch (False)
17. Excess crude oil account depleted under his watch (False)
18. Agreed to a debate but chickened out in the last minute (False)
19. Uduahan is a wanted man in England but GEJ make sure he won his re-election ( The elections were free, fair and credible)
20. Almost all known rouges in Nigeria today is a friend to GEJ (Huh?)
21. He said power problem will be a thing of the past in December 2010 (now shifted to 2015)
22. GEJ doesn't know how many percent of the budget has been implemented
23. Igbinedion is charged with corruption but GEJ right hand man is Igbinedion's deputy (huh?)
24. He sent Orubebe to South Africa 6mths. to see orka before the independent bomb blast (Arguable)
25. Patricia Etteh/Farida Waziri given national award by Goodluck Jonathan
26. Called south west political leaders bunch of rascals (Distorted his statement)
27. Junket around the globe with too many aids (no wonder our reserve is no more) (No proof and can point to other leaders)
28. During Yar'adua we had 60 plus advisers and assistant now GEJ added about 57 (This was denied by GEJ)
29. He made his Senegalese tailor and his wife hair dresser personal assistant (False)
30. Bribed those that voted for him during the primaries with $7,000 (You got proof?)
31. Refuse to bring those bad eggs that prevented him from becoming acting president (Don't get this one)
32. Yar'udua's signature was forged on the supplementary budget (nothing done till date)
33. Yar'udua's security vote was stollen during the saga ( nothing done till date)

GenBuhari:
somze,

Buhari tried to make us less dependent on foriegn imports which is why he banned imports, this was what helped him to off our foriegn debt in only 1.5years.

many business decided to take advantage by hoarding and charging exorbitant prices, which made Buhari to intervene to ensure the common man could afford purchase essentials.

Yes some business closed, but many more adapted and survived.

In the process he brought our inflation down from 39% to 5.5%

Buhari tried sha!

Kobojunkie:
About $300 Billion dollars spentso far in 12 PDP Years



What do we have to show for all that money? Still

a) No Electricity

b) No good healthcare

c) No good roads

d) Education in dilapidated state

e) No jobs

f) Poverty rate about 30% higher today

These are great reasons to support Jonathan and PDP