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MaxInDHouse:
The message is a reality so Adam and Eve are now real to you shey?🤣

no, it is based on an earlier Babylonian myth about how man lost the chance at immortality. ...

tctrills:
Oga you have been saying this since I have known you but never with evidence. I have no reason to believe since you don't know what a myth is

Tell me one person who actually saw Jesus.
This is what Justin Martyre an apologetic has to say ....
"And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter. For you know how many sons your esteemed writers ascribed to Jupiter: Mercury, the interpreting word and teacher of all;"........

I am really happy I left Christianity. it's teaching are very absurd. No wonder, when a certain German invented the printing press, cardinal Worsley is on record to have said "If we don't destroy this invention now, this invention will one day destroy us".....They never wanted the Bible to be translated into other languages....
The doctrines are all paganism. It is built on what God actually hates. Human sacrifice, trinity, confessing to priest, praying to Mary,angels and saints.....etc.
God gave us the solution to the problem of sin in 2nd chronicles 7:14. confess and forsake, I will forgive and restore. When he sent Jonah to Nineveh, there was no human sacrifice before he forgave them..... several times he calls human sacrifice an abomination and punished the Israelites for passing their children through the fire of Moloch. ...why would he turn around to allow it?
if Jesus actually existed which I am 10000% sure he did not, people only saw him die, nobody saw him dying for the sins of the world. God had already designated a place in the temple for animal sacrifice and it must be done by a priest/Levite. Not Roman soldiers...and the animal must be blemish and the person bringing it must be there while it is slaughtered and burnt. ...No vicarious atonement....doesn't work with man, certainly won't work with God.

max, Isaiah 53 is about Israel..not Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
Please when did what you read in the Bible became a reality?🤣

The message has always been a reality.....not the written word....The letter killeth.

tctrills:
You seen yo have forgotten, I did not ignore them, I explained them and gave you verses to increase your understanding. By the way no verse in the bible shows that Jesus Christ is not God.

Did the bible call Jesus Christ God? Yes
Did the bible ever say or imply that Jesus Christ is not God? No

But let me start strong, Jesus Christ is clearly the Jehovah of the old testament

see Numbers 23:19. God is not a man or a son of man. Jesus can't be God (if he existed) .man is man and God is God....there is no process where one becomes the other. The virgin birth even tells you the story is a myth.

tctrills:
Repentance is not a problem, it is simply not tied to the ritual murder of anyone.
That in itself is an absurd and barbaric concept.
Again your opinion and no one has any good reason to believe you. You are not a prophet, God doesn't speak to you and you have zero spiritual authority. So in this case, your opinion is not important. You can call God's plan absurd and barbaric if that is how you feel but you haven't presented any evidence to prove your point.

Haba. That you will only be forgiven when one [b]innocent man is murdered in a gruesome torturous manner and you buy into it? Think about it for heavens sake, stop and think! What sort of antediluvian caveman ritualistic teaching is that? ? ? ?
If the wages of sin is death then there is no escaping. For the demands of justice, it must be fulfilled. Is it painful, scary and maybe unbelievable to you but that's the clear definition of justice, every crime must be paid for before forgiveness is granted. Using words like antediluvian caveman ritualistic only express your disgust and opinion, still you don't seem to be able to clearly explain what wrong with it.

it is God's position actually....see Ezekiel 18.

Death is return to default..

The body back to the earth
The spirit back to God. it is the spirit of God. The one floating at the beginning of Genesis.. That same one. it is that one spirit that is within each of us. it is that one spirit seeing itself divided...

when scriptures used the term Babylon, it is referring to Inanna, she is the who,,,re of Babylon, the one with a scarlet robe ridding the monster.
she is there in America, hidden in plain sight...as the statue of liberty on liberty island . She is also Lucifer, that is who they worship....she is the goddess of war, death and destruction......what America is noted for....

everything will all come crumbling down.

The world is also expressed in you....we are the world, experiencing the world as humans.....

Cashylyx:
A prayer less Christian has no power, a prayerful Christian has power of God , because he is close to God God power is above all other powers . To be powerful is to pray and for the word of God to dwell in you is to always read your Bible. It says read your Bible pray everyday if you want to grow. Amen.

No,
keeping the laws of our creator is the right way to go. it is your actions that determines whether you are a good person or not, .....Not your beliefs.
''If a mans ways is pleasing to the lord, he even makes his enemies to be at peace with him''
prayer is like begging and can only comes from people who don't know who they are, MAKE DECLARATIONS, IT WILL BE ESTABLISHED. We are Gods just having a human experience, not the other way round...(capital G)

Breaker001:
Who do this girl dis kind thing? 😳

las las, nah termite and ants go still chop the puna.....

make she give am to man first.....

educatedfool:
Netanyahu takes a sip of his coffee, yet the cup stays full


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st6PMiLJDOY

This is Ai, for sure, the background non players are not moving.....

Boladogailese:
Please what is it? Could it be risky?

it is a prank, that thing has got nothing to do with your generator.

it is plastic.

This is ibadan oh...one of the most populated city in Nigeria,....there is rarely any house in sight...where the 220 million people dey?

SeraphEl:
I am prompted by the Ruach to declare this because of the rampant and very lethal infatuation of the mainstream evangelical church with the political state of Isreal. This is grave misunderstanding permeating the church led by prominent preachers and organizations who are deeply sponsored/paid off/bought by Zionism. The LORD is grieved of this tremendously and judgment is pending for all such deception.

Two main biblically supported facts. I will devote this space to teaching exposing the prevailing fallacies as well as enlightening minds concerning this topic.

1. 1948 Isreal is NOT synonymous to Biblical ancient Isreal. 2. 1948 Isreal is NOT Today's New Covenant Isreal (=Covenant of faith in Christ the Messiah).


Biblical Israel (=covenantal) and the Modern State of Israel (=geopolitical): Two Distinct Entities

The relationship between biblical Israel and the modern State of Israel is often discussed as though the two are interchangeable. In reality, they represent two very different realities separated by thousands of years of history, distinct forms of governance, differing cultural contexts, and completely different purposes. Although linked by heritage, geography, and identity, the biblical nation described in Scripture is not the same as the modern political state founded in 1948.

Biblical Israel: A Covenant Nation

Biblical Israel begins with the patriarch Jacob, who received the name “Israel” after wrestling with a divine being in Genesis 32:28. From him descended the twelve tribes, forming a people whose identity was deeply and explicitly tied to YHVH covenant. This covenant shaped every part of their national life. Biblical Israel was defined by its divine foundation. Its origins were not rooted in political agreements or international recognition but in promises made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Torah served as its constitution, its legal system, and its guiding moral framework. Leadership was provided by figures such as judges, prophets, and eventually kings like David and Solomon, all expected to uphold the covenantal and moral responsibilities laid out by HaShem. The land itself also carried spiritual significance. It was considered an inheritance granted by YHVH and was connected to obedience, blessing, and national destiny. In biblical thought, the people, the land, and the covenant formed a united whole that set ancient Israel apart from other nations.

The Modern State of Israel: A Contemporary Political Entity

In contrast, the modern State of Israel is a nation-state established on May 14, 1948. Its creation followed decades of Zionist political efforts and international negotiations, particularly through the League of Nations and later the United Nations. It emerged in response to historical challenges faced by Jewish communities worldwide, especially after the trauma of the Holocaust. The modern state operates as a secular parliamentary democracy. Its laws are based on civil legal frameworks rather than Torah as national law. While the state has a Jewish character—through symbols, holidays, and immigration policy—it is not a theocracy and does not govern according to biblical covenantal structures. Its population is diverse, including secular and religious Jews, Muslims, Christians, Druze, and others. Decisions are made through elections, not prophetic or priestly authority. The modern nation, therefore, reflects contemporary political realities and international law rather than the ancient covenant identity that shaped biblical Israel.

Where They Connect and Where They Differ

Despite the differences, both occupy the same general geographic region. The Jewish people view the land as their ancestral homeland, drawing cultural and religious identity from the ancient narratives of Scripture. Many traditions, prayers, and holidays emphasize longing for Zion and Jerusalem, creating continuity across millennia. However, the connection does not make them identical. Biblical Israel was inherently covenantal, guided by divine law, and unified around its relationship with YHVH.

Modern Israel is inherently political, guided by democratic structures and international norms. One was shaped by prophets and divine revelation; the other is shaped by parliaments, courts, and coalition governments. One understood its mission in theological terms; the other navigates geopolitical realities. Understanding this distinction helps clarify many modern conversations about faith, history, and politics. The two entities share a name, a land, and a people but they are not the same nation in purpose or identity.

Next: The True Isreal/Jews Today Are New Covenant Believers By Faith In the Messiah.

Upcoming: The True Anti-Semitism today is the persecution of true believers in Christ the Messiah.

while i might agree with you that the present state of Israel is not the biblical Israel, it is still open for debate.
The idea of a messiah is a concept developed by the Jews, it is used to describe somebody who is anointed to the service of God which includes kings and priests. as part of the kings coronation, he is anointed with a special oil usually kept in the ark of the covenant. was Jesus anointed, capital NO, so he cant be the messiah. The Jews do not have the idea of a god mating with human being, it is the hallmark of Romans /Greeks religion, that is why til today, i still maintain that Jesus is a creation of the roman empire, that the story was set in a Jewish town does not make it real.
When God finally sends his messiah, who will be a normal man with a father and mother just like any one else,. He will gather the Jews back to their home land. in short that is how he will be revealed. he will build the temple again and resume the daily sacrifice to God, he will increase the universal knowledge of the true God, He will be anointed as king and Israel will revert to a theocracy. during his reign, the world will witness peace, no more operation of an kind, No one will lift up arms to fight another nation, as Isaiah puts it,
Men will hammer their swords into plowshares .......and learn of war no more.

since that time has not arrived, it is safe to believe the true messiah has not arrived. we are all waiting. they have waited for 3000+ years...it is no big deal.

MaxInDHouse:
So try to ignore me!🤣

why are you eager to talk to every body. I was referring to Dtruitspeaker.

MaxInDHouse:
Literature has nothing to do with my life God's word has everything to do with me so if it's literatures that determines what you will do with your life ọmọ that's you not me!🙂

Little Wonder.......Now is is perfectly clear as day.

MaxInDHouse:
Too many Gods jàre.
Each person has chosen to be his or her own God but at the same time each of them still want to project his or her opinion on others after claiming they are their own Gods and everyone could choose to be the same i wonder why they are worried regarding what others choose to do with their God!🤣

GOD is the universal divine consciousness....

I won't say it again. we are all part of it and it is part of us...
There is no Jehovah's witness god anywhere, it is the poor interpretation of the scriptures by your GB that lead to all these ignorance.

waake up

MaxInDHouse:
Literature has nothing to do with my life God's word has everything to do with me so if it's literatures that determines what you will do with your life ọmọ that's you not me!🙂

But you have proved that you do not know anything in that book, you pick and choose which passage to believe and most of not all the time you quote passages out of context and when I question you, all you do is "provide a better performing group as if that is the koko.
you really need to unlearn and relearn. you are definitely on the broad road leading to destruction....

Roycemadeit:
Fine, All the culture in the world believes in Christianity, and blames the devil...

he is our resident lunner atic...you will do well to ignore him.

MaxInDHouse:
So you chose to learn from fictional characters but i only learn from real people because real people lived by the things they teach while fictional characters can't!🤣

apart from the Bible and Quran,which other literature have you read.....hmm you amaze me sometimes.

MaxInDHouse:
Fictional Character you mean?🤣

yea, I reat a lot.
I have quoted Thor, Thanos and spider man on this forum before....you clearly understood what I meant....The authors of the story are very entertaining and educated. They know what to what to make their characters say and do.....end of the day, it is just a theological fiction.

MaxInDHouse:
The truth is each of you wants to stand on his personal resolution after you've read the Bible that is what led to many teachers contradicting themselves.
God is not wicked so He warned us not to really on our own understanding {Proverbs 3:5} but to study with others before concluding on what the scripture is teaching. Act 8:31
God is not for disorder {1Corinthans 14:33} that is why Jesus prayed that we have the same line of thought {John 17:22} that can't be possible if everyone wants to be his own personal teacher of God's word.
So there are two qualities that will help us:

HUMILITY and RIGHTEOUSNESS! Zephaniah 2:2-3

Humility in the sense that we should be willing to yield as we see our fellow believers agree upon the interpretation of scriptures when their interpretation is producing fine fruit but when we insist that God must talk to each of us personally then humility is no longer their because that means there shouldn't be teachers among Christians after all everyone can learn from God directly.
Now this how God will judge such individuals:
If you're not willing to be boy boy for anyone it's OK but then you shouldn't expect anyone to be boy boy under you, you should welcome everyone as independent teachers of God's word who don't need you to teach them but once you disagree with that idea then what you are judging them for will come back to you! Matthew 7:1-4

The only human whose teacher we can not see is Jesus but he keeps telling us that there is someone who is teaching him so all glory and honor goes to that person. John 5:30

It's Satan who doesn't want to be boy boy for anyone not even for his Creator that's why Jesus said Satan fabricates everything by himself as his own teacher {John 8:44} but he has many followers having the same attitude like him they are never ready to be boy boy for anyone yet they want others to be their boy boy!🙂

Jesus did make a parable of the blind leading the blind, I think that best describes the Jehovah's witness and the GB.
dont you think?

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SeraphEl:
Beware: Soul Annihilation is a Dangerous Doctrine: “The smoke of torment is forever” (Rev 14.11)

“The 2nd Death is Eternal Separation from YHVH NOT Annihilation.

The Soul (Hb: Nefesh) comprises of your mind, your will & your emotions. It can also represent the whole physical person. These aspects of the soul- person persist forever, and your spirit lives on eternally either in life or in fires of hell. This implies, you will retain your memory, ageless and timeless, writhing in agony forever. How? Just as spoken of in Scripture, all dead or alive will receive a resurrected body. This is the body for which your soul will inhabit and experience the burning and gnashing of teeth for all eternity. *More on this aspect of resurrected bodies coming.

“Eternal” Consequences is an Ongoing Experience. The Bible uses “eternal” for both punishment and life in Matthew 25:46: “These will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.” If eternal life means endless existence, then eternal punishment must mean endless suffering. The parallel makes it clear that both states are equally endless.

Eternal Fire Is Unending. The smoke of their torment is forever (Revelation 14.11) : 9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they (=bodies/souls of the wicked) have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

Second Death does NOT mean Non-Existence. “Second death” in Revelation 20:14–15 refers to eternal separation from YHVH, not annihilation. Death here is relational, not merely physical. The wicked are cast into the lake of fire, which is described as unending and irreversible. Physical death is the first death, which all humans experience because of sin (Hebrews 9:27). The second death is the ultimate and irreversible judgment for those who reject God’s salvation.

Fire Consumes; but is unquenchable. Scripture calls hell’s fire “unquenchable” and says it “never shall be quenched” (Mark 9:43–48]. If fire simply consumed and ended, it would be quenched. Instead, the imagery emphasizes ongoing torment, not quick destruction.
Destruction does not mean cessation. Terms like “destroy” or “perish” often mean ruin, not cessation of existence. For example, 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 speaks of “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord,” which implies ongoing exclusion, not non-being.
Immortality of soul is for both righteous and the wicked. Immortality for the righteous does not mean the wicked cease to exist. The wicked experience the “second death” in the lake of fire, which is eternal separation and punishment (Revelation 21:8]. The fire is “unquenchable,” and the punishment is “everlasting.”

Leaving no root or branches (Malachi 4.1-3) speaks of the wicked not leaving any remnant on the new earth (after return of Christ). It does not mean, and it is not saying the soul of the wicked are annihilated.

Lake of Fire and Second Death. Revelation 20:14–15 – “Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire… anyone not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” This is called the “second death,” which is final and irreversible. Revelation 21:8 – Lists those condemned to the lake of fire, emphasizing its permanence. Example of Eternal Judgment. Jude 1:7 – Sodom and Gomorrah are described as “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire,” showing that God’s judgment is everlasting, not momentary. Everlasting Destruction. 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 –

The ungodly face “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord.” The biblical evidence strongly supports that hell is real, eternal, and irreversible, not a temporary state ending in annihilation. The language of Scripture—eternal fire, unquenchable fire, everlasting punishment—consistently points to permanent separation from God rather than cessation of existence.

Key Points of the Case Against Annihilation

• The Nature of the Second Death is Relational, Not Just Physical: It is separation from YHVH’s presence forever (2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 – “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord”). Once cast into the lake of fire, there is no escape or second chance (Rev. 14: 9-11; 20:15). Yeshua describes hell as a place where “their worm shall not die, everlasting, and neither shall their fire be quenched” (Isaiah 66:24; Mark 9:43–48), implying ongoing experience.

• Death = Separation: In Scripture, death often means separation rather than extinction. Physical death separates body and soul; spiritual death separates man from YHVH; the second death is eternal separation from YHVH’s presence and blessings.

• Not Annihilation: If the second death meant non-existence, terms like “unquenchable fire” and “everlasting punishment” would lose meaning. Instead, these terms emphasize permanence and ongoing reality.

• Eternal hell underscores the urgency of salvation and ongoing sanctification; those who endure to the end will not pass thru 2nd death (Rev 2:11).

Next: Ezekiel 18, Malachi 4.1-3, & the parable of the rich & Lazarus in Luke 16: Spiritual Death, Conscious Existence & Eternal consequences

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Truthseeker10:
I have heard you. I don't need to watch anything else. Thank you. If you quote me again I will block you.

then you really dont want to learn. well it's up to you.

Christmyhope:
I quite understand your position but you must know that God is just and righteous. The earth is the Lord and everything therein says the Holy scripture. When everything that belongs to the Lord has been marred by sin and sin Inclinations. Is it still right to say that such thing belong to God? But remember that God does not condone sin and everyone that sin belongs to the devil because the devil himself has been sinning from the beginning. Should God look-on as his creations get lost in sin? Should God just make mere proclamation " I forgive everyone" without addressing the legal and spiritual requirements for sin.

you just made two fundamental errirs there .
first you said everything God created belongs to him then went ahead to exclude the devil. The fact is that the devil is God's property. whatever he does is what God has created him to do...NO MORE NO LESS., He has no mind of his own. ..There is no where God ever referred to him as the source of evil. in fact,God in Isaiah 45:7 said he is both responsible for good and evil, light and darkness.
secondly you have failed to reference the fact that it is God that created us like this....with the ability and capacity to make choices., except you want to tell me that God made a mistake,so he knows we can make the wrong choices too....and if he says, if we confess and forsake he would forgive, why don't you think that is sufficient for him??

Truthseeker10:
Oga i have heard you na. God's spirit is the one killing and raping people. Thank you.

please just watch it.....

https://www.facebook.com/reel/4429675633935299/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂
Fantabulous!

man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust. we are all God's spirit dwelling within a body and having different experiences ..some experiences are bad and some are good. because God has given us the gift of choice. some people choose to oppress others because they have forgotten who they really are.....so sad

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Truthseeker10:
So it is God's spirit that is raping and killing people on earth. Thanks for the info.

Man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust.
we are all God's spirit experiencing life in multiple ways.
Because most of us hs lost and forgotten who we really are, we have resorted to all kinds of evil against our fellow men. so sad.

Christmyhope:
Ignoramus .. there's no basis for intellectual discussion because you have killed it with your idle notion.

let me enumerate some
1. Human services. several times in the Tanakh, God explicitly said he hated human sacrifice, he even calls it an abomination. he punished the Israelites for passing their children through the fire of Moloch. why would he turn around to send somebody as a sacrifice for sin. he already dropped that update a long time ago...confess and forsake, he would forgive and restore. see 2nd chronicles 7:14.
2. The idea of an intermediary or middle man. God also warned the Jews in the second of the 10 commandments he gave to Moses, "Do not have any other god before me" this simply means no middle man or God, come to me directly. my hands are not too short.
you get my point now.

Man is simply God's breath(spirit) living within a physical body made from dust and becoming a living soul. Death on the other hand is God taking his breath/spirit and the body becomes a lifeless body. we just bury it after some ceremony,.
The idea of Jesus, devil, hell..etc is a creation of the Catholic Church on the order of Emperor Constantine who wanted a tool to control the people, he himself, remained a sol Invictus, he was only baptized on his death bed funny enough by an Aranian (follower of Arius) bishop.
what a loving God would do is if a spirit/breath did not accomplish his purpose of creation before death, he would send it back to try again and again and again. Each time in a different body(dust,). Not send it to burn forever. why would a loving God send part of himself/himself to born forever. I can never understand the mind of men that created the idea. .....
Death is God's spirit or breath returning to him and the body returning to dust where it was taken....(Back to default). God's spirit is pure and does not need to be saved from anything. when the Tanakh speaks of salvation it is always from physical danger. Asper the "problem* of sin, God already gave a solution and it never involved a human sacrifice. just confess and forsake, he would forgive and restore.....(what a merciful God I reverence) not the one created in the image and likeness of the white folks.

ignorance is a disease run from it.