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barcaboi:
so punishment shd be without biases.....dats d law.....what message do u send 2 other potential politifians......dat u can forgive them?.....dats injustice.....take it and stop using sentiments. ....what is bad is bad.....when u punish a big fish, a small fish knows what he'll face if he tries it.....if anyone is guilty, let him face the music irrespective of tribe, affiliation and stuff.....

was alameisegha not punished and humiliated when he was found guilty of theft? you speak as if he was not punished at all, sir, HE WAS!

see, am not saying Jonathan should forgive all offenders, NO what am saying is, it is within the rule of law for him to forgive offenders especially after they have suffered to an extent for their crimes.

hahn:
Isaiah 45:7

KJV: I formed the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the lord do all this things.

NIV: I formed the light and create darkness: I bring prosperity and create disaster: I, the lord do all these thing.

NLT: I create the light and make the darkness. I send good times and bad times. I, the lord, am the one who does all these things.

ASV: I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I'm jehovah, that doeth all these thing.

So, explain that

I think you need to balance these scripture.

check out Ezekiel 28:15, Ezekiel 14:2-5, Leviticus 20:26, 1 john 1:5, James 1:13-15,

when you balance these scriptures, you will understand that God created satan and also freewill, that is why he claims responsibility for evil, yet, God is NOT evil, NEITHER DID HE IMPUTE EVIL IN SATAN, Satan simply chose evil.

also, freewill tests our faithfulness. you being around ladies and yet not being unfaithful to your spouse makes you worthy of her and earns her love right? so it is with us and God. the CHOICE of evil was there and Satan took it. mind you, taking it MEANS ignoring that which is good. its not that there is a created thing called evil, NO. absence of good IS evil

barcaboi:
bros forget forgiveness. .....if u steal that kinda cash Alameisigha stole and d way he escaped like a fugitive from UK, u shd be used as as scapegoat....now what u are saying is all political thieves shd be let off when they return the cash? chai....stop bn biased, so what happens to those petty thieves serving jail time for stealing 20k or handbags?

sir, the law in itself is not perfect. also, a human mind is flexible, a leader as he sees fit, can decide to pardon any wrongdoer irrespective of how long the jail term is.

me stealing 20k does not make me LESS RIGHTEOUS than one who steals 20Billion. stealing is stealing.

hahn:
Of course I am responsible for my actions. But the government didn't create the sins, god did. If your android phone blows up in your pocket as a result of a malfunction won't the manufacturing company take responsibility for it?

...that is, if I had a manual for the android but neglected its instructions, then its my fault, not the company's. company give manuals for complex or important devices, or don't you agree?

also, God has a manual he placed in us alongside freewill. its our responsibility whatever we make of the freewill.

LASTLY, freewill is not a licence to sin. Grace is not a license to commit sin and apologize later, (after all, God is gracious and merciful right?) besides, the last example you gave refers to we (now) imperfect humans, how much more a perfect being who created everything good and give it a 'manual' to remain good?

barcaboi:
right. ..why not pardon petry thieves....instead of 2 families that u agree milked d whole nation dry......beauty kwanu....

it depends. if 90% of the money stolen is recovered, then there can still be pardon. also, some people easily forgive than others, Jonathan's nature is that of one who easily forgives, same can't be said for buhari...at least for now.

hahn:
How can Satan chose something that doesn't exist? If god didn't create sin(he created all things, right) satan wouldn't have sinned. God is actually responsible for satan's problems.

Besides, god is both good and evil. Not so?

No. anything that is NOT good, IS bad. any thing that has the absence of good, is bad. BAD means THE ABSENCE OF GOOD.

God giving us the freewill to make decisions does not make him responsible for our actions, we are responsible for our own actions. for instance, in your country, when the law of the constitution highlights ALL that makes you a GOOD citizen, and you do the exact opposite, is your country responsible for YOUR action?

otimothy:
And you really believe that? haba nau lets be honest.

are you saying Jonathan was too powerful to frustrate the prosecution process of a UK agency? a case that has been ongoing before buhari came in ? guy, be realistic and sincere, just for once.

hahn:
That's true.

But he created sin, why then should I be punished for it?

No he didn't. Satan conceived it. freewill gives one the right to chose good or bad and bear their respective consequences. just as a bleeding nose is a natural consequence of ones nose being punched, so is death the natural consequence of sin.

GOD REPRESENTS ALL THAT IS GOOD, ANY CHOICE MADE OUTSIDE HIM BECOMES EVIL, AND SATAN CHOSE THE LATER.

barcaboi:
go tru ur writeups and see who diverted d issue.....and see wch makes sense because all dose u accused were pardoned by ur role model.....so who is 2 blame?

one being pardoned means the person acknowledge he or he is guilty and is at the mercy of the constituted authority. governors pardon criminals every year after they must have acknowledged sincere remorse....it a norm within the law of democracy.

hahn:
This is confusing. God is supposed to be the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Are you trying to say that after givin those commandments in the old testament, he changed , realised that his commandments were too brutal and inhuman and sent his son to earth to die for sins that are still committed today?

You make it sound like god is confused

No. He isn't. his actions in the old testament only shows HOW GRAVE the consequences of sin can be, so that we won't take his grace in the new testament for granted. if you don't know the how grave the weight of being guilty is, you won't appreciate the power of grace and mercy. if you don't fall sick or have life threatening diseases, you WONT REALLYVappreciate the importance of medicine. got it?

barcaboi:
lol.....all of a sudden I have no meaningful thing to say......stick 2 issue and don't go down that lane, we re perfect gentlemen

I should be the one telling you that.

otimothy:
Calm your jets mr,ever wondered why she was not arrested under uncle jonah's time?

because investigations was still ongoing, if there was enough proof to enable arrest, she would since have been arrested.

barcaboi:
lol...funny ow u want to stick 2 issue....d issue is Alameisigha, na u start ABACHA.....so bros stick 2 d issue

obviously you have nothing meaningful to say, I therefore oblige your meandering.

hahn:
Lol. If the old testament is irrelevant then why is it still a part of the bible?

because it gives a historical and symbolic view of God's dealings with his people. the new testament means the new covenant. old testament means old covenant. Jesus came to fulfil the law by becoming the sacrifice for sins, thus ushering us into the new covenant.

the old covenant allows us to see the terrible weight of sin through its consequences by the law, while the new covenant allows us to appreciate the power of mercy and grace to live above sin or anything abominable before the sight of God.

munchfani:
ONLY A CHANGE OF IDEOLOGY CAN SAVE THIS GREAT COUNTRY...@ OP, MAKE A REASONABLE CONTRIBUTION TO THE COUNTRY. DON'T BLAME BUHARI FOR YOUR LACK OF 3 SQUARE MEALS.

really? you and your fellow Buhari worshippers should smell the coffee. after all, you blamed jonathan for virtually everything.....once again, SMELL THE DAMN COFFEE!

otimothy:
obviously you lack the mental ability to understand the write up,our response and what you just gave as your response proves it.

are you done Mr mental ability? APC should steer clear of the prosecution going on since 2013 by NCA of UK, stop claiming buhari APC god is responsible for the chase. you APC dullards are worse, and pls, DEZIANI is innocent until proven otherwise, steer clear of the matter, and stop trying to take credit for it. HYPOCRITE!

OP, you are misquoting Christianity. what you read was an old testament law practiced by Judaists as recorded in the bible in the new testament, Jesus said, love your enemies, bless those that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you and persecute you.." (Matthew 5:44). Jesus corrected and balanced the scriptures.

so your notion of Christians killing or hating unbelievers is a LIE, Jesus our lord never commanded us to do such. we are Christians, christian means Christlike, we are followers of Christ. APOSTACY has consequences, but killing and hating those involved is OUT OF IT.

stop misrepresenting christianity....its called blackmail....STOP IT!

Kenai:
Many of you who frequently read the cacophony of political opinions expressed on Nigerian Twitter have most likely come across a certain @OgbeniDipo - a well known APC Internet Knight, Tinubu admirer and Buhari fan.
Dearest Ogbeni was also part and parcel of the vocal critics of Goodluck Jonathan's administration on the microblogging site, especially on areas that involve his handling of the dreaded islamist sect, Boko Haram.

Most memorable of Ogbeni, was his outcry at the time of the Nyanya bombing which happened in 2014.
In case you've forgotten, this was his tweet:

https://s12.postimg.org/ebs2qpkgd/IMG_20151003_171238.jpg
In the tweet above, Mr Dipo attempted to help us understand the state of insecurity and hopelessness of the GEJ administration by emphatically making it clear to us that Nyanya was just a 15 minute drive from the Nigerian Army Post Service. In other words, Boko Haram had become so strong it could strike an area so dangerously close to a federal government facility. Well and good.

Now... fast-forward to a year and 5 months after, Jonathan has been ousted and Buhari has been crowned... and BOOM! Boko Haram strikes at the SAME Nyanya district!

And this is our dear Ogbeni Dipo's tweet:

https://s23.postimg.org/j4kjokqej/IMG_20151003_171252.jpg

WONDERFUL!!!

cc: Lalasticlala, Ishilove, Firefire, AgabaI23, Atlwireles, WhiteTechnology, Whynotthetruth, Beremx, sunnyb0b0, Anonimi, MizMyColi, Ola6, Chukwudi44, NgeneUkwenu, Midolian, Modath, OrlandoOwoh, Jarus, Owobokiri, Owobikiri, AnambraDota, Rozayx5, Mogidi, TonyeBarcanista, Ecoterrors, Rawtruth, Onenaira3, Dabullit

PS: Nyanya is just 15 minutes away from Eagles Square. Let that sink in.

my dear, some of us have known these APC e-warriors for long. they have even infested nairaland sef.....we know them, no be today nyash dey for back...

WIZGUY69:
lalasticlala.
please FP.
for the whole world to see the menace of Fulani herdsmen in the SE. People are dying everyday here.
thanks!

and you didn't read the part where the abia state government had to intervene so as to stop a full blown war between igbo farmers affected and Fulani herdsmen? some cowardly tribes would rather not face the fulanis their master.

barcaboi:
that same abacha made PMB chairman of PTF to save cash from excess crude oil...even OBJs govt saved us from debt relief......GEJ squandered all and do u know ow much we have left in the reserves?.....do u know ow much we owe?....even Abacha's tenure had no debt profile as high as this....go chk and get back 2 me

dude, stick to the issue, buhari SAID abacha DID NOT LOOT..... SECONDLY, buhari could not account for spent 2.billion dollars while working with abacha, 'kwarapt' leader. THIRDLY, global oil prices fell, thus bringing about the use of reserve to cushion the effect on the economy, so what's the fuss about that? FOURTHLY, abacha family once boasted that they can not be as poor as dangote....what does that tell you? LASTLY, the debt incurred by the Jonathan administration was around 2.billion dollars, which is very low compared to the overall debt accumulated by the past adminstrations. dude, do your research well.

angieberry:
Just to be clear, I'm not whatever you're implying I am. Just because I'm a woman does not mean that I can't see and identify an attractive lady when I see one. I'm sure when you see a ripped good looking guy, you'll acknowledge that he's attractive and doing so does not make you gay. Now, I just stated my opinion that what that woman is carrying is irritating, and you think otherwise. Well, to each his own.

irritating? I don't think so.

lastpage:
W ANKER!
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oluwole skills on point....keep it up.

lastpage:
Not surprised, that is how you insult your Father, omo-ale olori=pelebe!!

Why dont you just go and hang yourself, if its that painful!


Lastpage!

I know say e pain you and your worthless father... either way, let justice prevail, enough of these APC propaganda of vindictiveness.

otimothy:
I feel like hugging you bro,this overhyped pdp tonye fellow got it so wrong and yet some kids that read headline news follow him blindly,its a pity though.

pls hug your pathetic selves...celebrate your mediocrity. anybody can be arrested if indicted in any allegation. but eh, APC has no moral obligation to throw stones at DEZIANI. as far as am concerned, she is innocent until proven guilty by a competent court of law.

lastpage:
[b]Eehn Barcanista!! So all these "hundred Pages" just to tell Eediots like yourself that Buhari should not take credit!

Whoever it was that substituted your name from Buhari's list, (as Minister for Information), na double thunder go fire am! .

BTW, l hope you showed your group of clueless SaTANoids where Buhari "said or claimed credit" otherwise, the fact that you got 208 likes is indicative of the crass level of "infantile stewpidity" amongst you and your "hate-filled admirers".

I hope like a Dog that swallows its vomits, you guys that said "Dezzianni cannot be arrested" should have eaten your "Humble Pie".

Who cares about who arrests a thief/Looter of treasury, as long as she is "dealt with" (when she finished the UK version, she will be deported and #SaiBaba will put icing on the cake! ) ... PROPERLY.

I am sure by now, even Jonathan is shytting in his Pant!

NEXT! [/b]



Lastpage!

dude shut up, DEZIANI is INNOCENT until proven GUILTY by a competent law court, not APC propaganda machine. corrupt APC middlemen are on the loose while you morons are shouting CRUCIFY HER! fools!

Fearcom:
Good! Then I will have you reminded of the International Outrage his Pardon sparked around the world as the FG under Jonathan was condemned and criticized. And what was their response? "We are not moved" .Also be reminded that the former Minister for Petroleum would have been investigated but she couldn't be touched because she was shielded by Jonathan who believed that stealing wasn't corruption.

this stealing-is-not-corruption mantra is a farce. Jonathan has severally debunked that line of thought you guys are towing. he was quoting one justice abdulahi who said corruption is a an ambiguous term whose usage varies, that stealing should be called stealing, not corruption.

Fearcom:
Buhahahahaha! You didn't answer his question, did you??

alameisegha was pardoned, NOT discharged and acquitted as an innocent man

arbitter:
I love how those igbo youths that were chestbeating about how they will fvck this country up if 'Diezani is touched' are suddenly changing their tune to 'Lets not give Buhari credit', As if that changes the fact that their beloved 'daughter' is still in deep shlt and they cant do jack about it.

Heres a thought for you, if this woman is successfully prosecuted EVERYONE in this country (except for you ldiots of course) will give due credit to Buhari and you can write a million epistles about it all you want but NOBODY gives a shlt what you think, they didn't before the elections and they're not about to start now.

is the country not f√cked up enough already? BTW, don't run away from the fact on ground, DEZIANI is INNOCENT until proven GUILTY in a competent court of justice, not from lagos-ibadan media houses or from APC wailers.