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MobilityExpress:
Hulk can’t even defeat Iron Man, an ordinary human being inside a breakable metal suit. Hulk is not even a worthy opponent. He’s far below his league.

yeah like batman almost killed supper man if not for martha

MobilityExpress:
Marvel movies right now are far better no doubt, but that’s as best as it gets. But as far as comics and animated cartoons are concerned, till today DC > Marvel. I grew up reading comics and watching loads of hardcore superhero cartoons, not the Tom & Jerry and Sponge Bob types for kids of today !

Let me explain something about Superman to you. In the comic world, Superman holds himself back and uses maybe like 10% of his capabilities when dealing with others in order not to indiscriminately kill anyone and anything in his way with impunity and nobody can bring him to justice. So he always plays cool and limits himself most of the time, always playing Mr Nice Goody-two-shoes. But when you witness the real power of Superman, he’s not just an extraordinary Superhero, he’s almost a god! He killed Darkseid, even Doomsday. In the alternate universe where Superman was evil, only Superman could defeat Superman, nobody else. Superman in his true self has virtually unlimited strength and power, genius intelligence with speed faster than the speed of light - only The Flash in his fastest prime (speed force) can outrun him. In the comic world, Superman bench pressed planets. Do you know the kind of power it takes to bench press one planet alone, talk less of “planets”. Superman lifted Mageddon, which is millions of times heavier than the sun. Another time they tested his strength and he lifted an object that weighed about 200 quintillion tons (= 200 billion billion tons) and he lifted it with only one hand . The evil Superman (aka Ultraman) lifted Book of pages alone, something the good Superman tried to lift and couldn’t. Equal strength, equal abilities but different attitudes, which further proves that Superman (good guy) always holds back. There was a time he got pissed and knocked WonderWoman unconscious with one punch only, the almighty Amazonian Princess . Even Batman always carries Kryptonite with him everywhere he goes just in case Superman ever goes rogue. And Batman is the ultimate standard in the Comicverse. If Batman is afraid of something, then everyone else had better be 1 million times more afraid of that thing because Rule #1 of the Comicverse “BATMAN IS ALWAYS RIGHT”. Rule #2, “The answer is always Batman”


This is the most famous quote from Superman:

“That man won't quit as long as he can still draw a breath [*Superman talking about Batman*]. None of my teammates will. Me [Superman talking about himself]? I've [Superman] got a different problem. I [Superman] feel like I live in a world made of cardboard, always taking constant care not to break something, to break someone. Never allowing myself to lose control even for a moment, or someone could die. But you can take it, can't you, big man? What we have here is a rare opportunity for me to cut loose and show you just how powerful I really am.” Now see the clip below to see a little glimpse of what happens when Superman doesn’t hold himself back :

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zexXH3lS8Uw

You seem fascinated with comics, i know the OP is talking about movies and marvel is the best.

Probably superman will do better as a villain than a hero then will Dc mean business.

The Irony is that DC cant produce decent movies now cos they so much overpowered their character from superman, wonderwoman and aquaman and DC characters majorly r myths not even realistic.

Feraz:
Are you sure Marvel existed before DC? Check well bros!!! Many characters in Maevel have an equivalent in DC. Heck, they kinda imitated DC...

I was expecting this argument. It's been argued here previously by people like iice and facts pasted.

Search for the canons and read. No matter the version of Hulk, he can't defeat other versions of Superman. Hulk is NOT and has NEVER been on par with Superman!!!

OP, Marvel wins in terms of movies (love their character developments and how each connects) but when it comes to comics and cartoons, DC always has better storylines. DC equally has better superheroes compared to MCU.

storylines??, what do u mean by that??, r u talking of comics or big screen movies??, cos marvel has gotten there storyline figured out since, DC just rushed and combined justice league.

Leyqute:
What comic relief? The "I'm rich" scene is the only one I find comical in the whole movie. And Superman saves the day as usual. So very unexpected.

They should also kill Aquaman off. It will do Aquaman and DC a whole lot of good.

Actually the place aquaman sat on the laso of truth, where he started saying rubbish.

actually acquaman didnt do justice to d movie, he was even more darker than the batman and i was like who is the batman here?,
jason momoa shld not have played aquaman, batman might even be better for him, DC failed in character development.

The flash was more annoying than being funny.

There conversation level was poor cos it was obvious they where acting.

Leyqute:
Did you notice how useless Aquaman is? They included him in the Justice League 2017 movie and instead of stepping up their rep, it dragged them further down. That Cyborg guy is not any better.

Thor Ragnarok is much better than Justice League 2017 even though the story was a bit of a cliche.

Bro that Justice league was whak, the online nice things is they added a comic relief unlike batman vs superman, but in terms of combact and storyline, they bleeped up bro.

MobilityExpress:
DC has the coolest and best superheroes. In fact, many of the Marvel heroes are imitations of DC: Tony Stark aka Iron Man is an imitation of Bruce Wayne aka Batman; Nova Corps is an imitation of Green Lantern Corps; Deadpool is an imitation of Deathstroke; Avengers is an imitation of Justice League; Hawkeye is a imitation of Green Arrow etc. Besides, there’s no single Marvel superhero that can defeat Superman. Superman will defeat all of them combined. DC comics superheroes are the greatest and best. Unfortunately their production movies suck, that’s all!

your write up there sounds like my 10yr old cousin, "superman will defeat all of them" , thats d problem, if superman is so powerful then why the need of justice league??, DC made a big mistake by overpowering each of there character.

Marvel has a way of making the characters realistic and good to watch, people like to see a hero fight and be beaten and not someone that will throw one punch n the movie is over.

People wants to be entertained and Marvel is doing a nice work DC is doing bad.

moreover Justice league is not up to expectations, its so overhyped.

Marvel rules the big screen movies and have a wide public appeal, the heroes r realistic and have good combat abilities such as captain america, black panther, spiderman, winter soldier.

watch winter soldier was like the best hand to hand combact scene i ever seen then came civil war and i was like men can it get any better??,

DC have low public appeal nothing special, there heroes r unrealistically over powered making it difficult for them to engage in a physical combact, they only end up showing brute strength which is so boring to watch.

Marvel rules it for me right now cos even the defenders and dare devil is grt to watch.

DC needs to do more on there characters probably reduce the over powering.

korlahwarleh:
I just remembered the Egyptian team that won the nations cup thrice between 2006 - 2010. I heard most of them were playing in the premiership then. Na true?

hahahhahahhaahah, lolzzz, nice one dude.

forgiveness:
You be God wey go decide where Kayode go play for future?

How do you know Onyekuru will work into Everton's first eleven?

Age should not be the determinant factor rather Performance should be.

Oga i can see that you are good to analyse issues, if a are a student of psycology you will understand some few things.

This is not about if am God or not, Man city now is at the ascendency they are at the top now, the only place left for them is coming down, what can kayode offer them next yr??, help them remain on top?, what has been doing in its loaned club now?, i will say been benched.

Now let me tell you everton is down the table right now, they need the best leg to help them stay afloat, it may even be january they may decided to call back onyekuru cos of his exploit, so get it straight now, there is a higher possibility for him to feature for everton to kayode featuring for man city.

forgiveness:
Who told you Obafemi just scored a goal?

Last season, Odion Ighalo played 47 matches and scored only 17goals with 9 assists while Obafemi played 17 matches and scored 9 goals with 4 assists. Which is better?

We need Obafemi, Joel Obi and Sone Aluko in the team.

ogbeche and ike uche needs to be added then, abi make we join kanu, okocha, yekini and other ancestors put??

COOL10:
Something got me thinking today. If Sterling could play as an AMF,why couldn't Guardiola play Iheanacho the same when he was there?

The answer is simple and clear, guadiola likes people that r shorter and with lower center of gravity thats the first impression, most importantly he prefers people that can hold the ball, dribble and run with it without losing d ball, if u watch iheanacho physical appearance expecially his legs, u will know that he is not built to hold the ball too long, he cant make succesful dribbles without losing d ball, that doesnt mean he is not a good player, him iheanacho can build on it as well, ronaldo doesnt hold the ball or dribble the way messi can but he is the best player in the world. So the issue is gaudiola wants people that holds ball well.

forgiveness:
I understood all he said but his analogies are flowed and I have to address them.


We know we are still in the rebuilding process hence the need to bring in new players and see what they got to offer.

I am not saying we should change the whole first eleven but integrate better quality options for the first 11 which I think is lagging on the bench.

Therefore, it is a necessary exercise to embark on.


Out of the players you listed, are you telling me Kayode invitation is not justifiable?

Is this not the same Kayode some folks here mocked because Onyekuru was bought buy Everton? They told us Onyekuru is better than Kayode because his talent was noticed by bigger clubs in Europe and eventually bought by Everton but shut their mouth when they saw Man City bought Kayode and even moved to a better league than Belgium pro league.

So, stop counting him among brand new players because Onyekuru is an epitome of brand new player.

However, out of those players you listed Onomah, Kayode, Ajagun and Ilori are the only players I vigorously campaigned to be added to the team because we don't have better options.

Beside these players, Joel Obi, Sone Aluko and Obafemi Martins are the players who can add qualities to the team.

Abi, you wan compare Nwakali with Joel Obi, Onyekuru with Sone Aluko and Nwakaeme with Obagoal?

Guy, abeg dont compare onyekuru with aluko cos he is far better than him, kayode chances at playing for city is so slim infact it is nearly impossible cos i dont want to be so pessimistic say impossible. one he is not even starting for girona and havent even scored a single goal this season just had one an assist, tell me how he is going to make it to city bench its practically impossible, onekuru has been clocking 90 mins and scoring goals, i dont know why he wont play first team for everton nxt season his chances are practically possible, its obvious you dont see it that way.

Nwakali C i dont even fancy him playing for the eagles, what i observe about rohr is that he like choking d midfield even though he knows they wont play, like agbo for example he is good as a DM for his club but cant sits on bench constantly for the eagles, that slot may as well be used to invite a stiker.

Nwakaeme is not better than Martins but I guess age is the issue we have now, we dont like to invite old players again infact rohr wont fancy inviting him so lets move ahead.

zuchyblink:
i will like to see these two feature for SE. I don't like kayode's style of play. Always running like a headless chicken with no known quality

To be honest this two is performing better than kayode, but the leagues they play in cannot be compared to the one kayode plays thats the reason.

cyriel even plays in a tougher league compared to paul denmark which is less competitive, may be thats why the stats is in favor of him, he needs to move to a tougher league to be considered.

My conclusions:

Pros:

cyriel desser will be a like for like, or even better replacement for Odion Igalo, he has same characteristics with him and good physicality that is suitable for african footballs, he has good awareness and nice positioning skills, carries hot shots on both feet, has a good footwork required of a striker. He will give Ighalo a run for his money.

cons:

Cyriel desser struggles with aeriel balls, may waste a couple of chances cos of unnecessary wayward shots, has contributed lesser assists and doesnt often help with buildup plays.



PAUL ONUACHU

Pros:

paul is excellent with aeriel balls because of his height, has a good speed cos of his longer legs, he has a nice footworks considering his stature, may add something similar to Agali or even better.

Paul has a good sense of awareness and good positioning skills, he has contributed to so many goals this season apart from scoring making him a good teamplayer, he also contributes to buildup play which makes him fall a bit deeper to the midfield most times. He will be a good asset to the super eagles.


Cons:

He often get tangled while trying to dribble an opponent, he needs to do better on footworks, his physicality may not be suitable for playing african opponents. His shots mostly are not weighty and needs to add more power to his shots.

Final conclusion:

having both in the team will be nice, but probably overcrowded, its left for the coaching staff n scouts to decide.

BascoVanVeli:
Remember that he plays on the left side of the attack for this club and that he was a cf last year when he had those monster numbers though in division 2.

this stats is for this season alone, he plays predominantly as a CF but lesser as LWF

CYRIEL DESSERS

**** very good with both foot

** average with aerial balls

*** good with footworks

***good in accuracy

**** very good speed

*** good in positioning

*** good in teamwork cos of assists

**** very good physicality

**** very good awareness



PAUL ONUACHU

**** very good with both foot

***** excellent on aerial balls

*** good with footworks

*** good accuracy

*** good speed

*** positioning good

**** very good team player.

** average physicality

**** very good awareness

PAUL ONUACHU
17/18 season

Superligaen

appearance : 12

Goals : 8

Assists : 3

goals per min : 104

minutes played :833

Europa League Qualifiers
appearance :
6

goals: 4

Assists: 2

min per goal: 116

minutes
462

DBU Landspokal

appearance
2

goals : 3

assist 1

mins per goal :50

mins 150

Total
appearance:
20

Goals : 15

Assist : 6

min per goal : 96

mins 1,445

cyriel dessers:

17/18 season
eredivisie

appearance 11

minutes played 694

min per goal 139

goals: 5 goals

assist: 1 assist

europa qualifiers

appearance 5

minutes 403

min per goal 403

goals : 1

assist : 1

KNVB BEKER

appearance 2

minutes 135

min per goal 68

goals : 2

assist : 1

totall this season

appearance 18

minutes 1232

min per goal 154

goals : 8

assist: 3

I am going to post a link for youtube video of cyriel desser and paul onuachu and make some comparisons.

cyriel dessers: m.youtube.com/watch?v=ds0avkqWCOU

m.youtube.com/watch?v=3B_k3Q6g9o4



paul onuachu: m.youtube.com/watch?v=DkC5bh4Yr7k


m.youtube.com/watch?v=DkC5bh4Yr7k



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edi287:
Joel Obi walks into our first 11 if fit. Only Mikel is better when in form. If Etebo, Ogu, Onazi, etc are making our team, then there's no way in the world a fit Joel Obi doesn't make it.

joel obi case is different, i wont like him to go to worldcup he is injury prone, he shld try and see how to fix his injury cases, i dont know how arjen robbin turned from injury prone to iron man, let Joel obi learn what he did.

Mujtahida:
That Dessers is good ooo. Very nifty guy.

to compare we shld get there stats and youtube highlights to see who is more efficient n effective.

i still believe paul is more effective.

terzurum5:
We can as well try him in the AM. Who knows if he comes good. Not necessarily for 2018 World Cup but post 2018 events.

exactly, competitions make one better, but we shldnt be considering players only for worldcup, like u said post worldcup also, he may turn out better than what we have on ground.

MetalJigsaw:
Hello guys, I need your picks between Cyril Dessers mad Paul Onuachu of Mitgylland FC.

Which player do you think is the better player? I've never seen them play.

I will go for Paul he is scoring and assisting more often, not only last season but this season also, so he has shown consistency.

pls I will like u to bring us there starts and compare both thanks.

terzurum5:
No one seems to be talking about Samuel Adegbenro. Dude packs a lot of shots in his boots. He has got eyes for goals too.

It is not just enough to arrange squard for Russia 2018 World Cup alone. We should also be thinking post 2018 World Cup.

Maybe we should try out Samuel Adegbenro of Rosenborg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFfIwUk5bks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqLzCnas_uc

av seen him play and he is good, plays from d wings for rosenborg, I think we av so much competition their.

elyte89:
I would answer u from dt question ROHR likes success?


In every team,so players re playing or sitting on d bench, not because of deir quality, but because of natural preference, this scenario is everywhere in a team and rorh is not an exception cos he would av soft spot for some players,if not for injury,talent wise who's onyekuru beside Isaac success?

Oga sentiments and nepotism doesnt play football, when things turns sideways the coach will suffer it, remember rohr used to call up bazee even though he sits on the bench but now he doesnt which means bazeee have to work hard to meet rohrs expectation.

Or u forgot he prefers starting Iheanacho as top nine before, when he wasnt getting d result he kept him on the bench, yes coaches have prefrence, but they also know talent wen they see it and u cant hide it.

elyte89:
Peeps sha want onyekuru to enter starting line up,even if na to bench ezenwa ,


Realistically,D guys chance of making it to d world cup is just 3-5percent ,with d way things re evolving. Most esp if ISAAC SUCCESS AND SEREREN BAZEE starts playing fully,cos RORH fancies both players frm d interviews I av seen,most esp ISAAC SUCCESS.

HAhahahahah Ogbeni it looks like you are backward in terms of latest happenings in football, onyekuru was invited to the super eagle qualifier n played against algeria if u dont know, his chances r like 50percent.

For ur information he just scored a wining goal today and has gotten 8goals n 2assist in 14 matches, if he continues that way his chances will be up by 80percent, better than struggling Isaac success, musa, bazee, even mosses simon, so get ur facts right.

Try and watch him u go confirm am, no time to wait for people that start having game time, when someone is already sharp and ready to go.

iamJ:
just get lost that will be nice

Man thats so rude na.

komekn:
At no time has there been kind of comparison between Ibe and Solanke.

Ibe is essentially a winger and Solanke is a true striker. They never met at Liverpool.

In reality for what he does I rate him more than Iwobi which in your sentiment you will fund hard to believe.

This summer how many teams pur in a bid for Iwobi he almost lost his position in Arsenal because he lacked consistency.

Not too long ago a well known contributor said that Iwobi was better than the Ox. Claiming that every EPL manager would rather have Iwobi, I quietly told him he was wrong. Using sentiment to cloud objective judgement. My final yardstick was to see how many clubs would go for him Iwobi compared to the Ox. Well the Ox is at Liverpool rejecting almost double the money to play in his prefered position of AM.

Now that we have dealt with Iwobi outside of Mikel who is able to compete with Aluko

bro you also and forgiveness r arguing out of point so i cant compare ibe n solanke but its fine to compare solanke n iwobi or aluko n iheanacho.

You seem to forget that once an african chooses to play for africa his chances of playing top flight diminishes except and i repeat exceptionally good. more over arsene wenger never had in mind to sell iwobi in any form, Ox case was clear he wants to leave and in no way is Ox better than Iwobi.

Let me not derail or push any further, my opinion is that Aluko is no where better than players we have on ground, for christ sake he shld be like 30 now, i knew he was 24 when he played for us, so age is not on his side.

the way forgiveness is ringing his name has even made some of us that loved him begins to hate him, aluko is done and gone and in no way he can make it to world cup now, except Real madrid come buy am.

forgiveness:
Was Iwobi close to playing for the England National team before he played for Nigeria?

Without the National team Arsenal wouldn't have renewed his contract because he was never rated but now see what the national team did for his career.

Dude, talent wise, Aluko is never behind Iwobi.

The way you talk as if aluko hasnt played for Nigeria before, as if we havent seen what he is capable of doing, but let me let you know that talent wise he can never bench anybody in the current squad.

You have been shouting solanke since morning cos he plays for liverpool and you forgot about jordan ibe who was even said to be better than him but where is ibe now??.

I bet you didnt watch leicester last game cos u wont be talking abt iheanacho this way, you must be a novice in the knowledge of football, you pour all your sentiments out hoping that we are all kids that will swallow everything u vomits.

For your information we have the best players that we need, if the coach decided to stretch his hands to try new leggs it wont be because of ur online rant on nairaland.

So for ur information respect d coaches decision cos i know u aint better.

Goke7:
let others do the shooting abeg, onazi gives the team more balance, remember how France finished us after onazi went off in the last world cup

Onazis position is still under contention, we have so many players that can play that role better than him and its clear we have started seeing it, he need to up his game. same goes to balogun he is unusually slow and will find it hrd to stop fast wingers. aina case is still been looked into, he is not even as fast as echiejile but idowu might be better than both, only time will tell who is gonna make it to worldcup.

we r level, iwobi with goal nacho assist

uzoho, idowu n ebuehi is in