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14....NwaAmaikpe

Tithes and offerings are on lockdown

The money budgeted for high rise church buildings and private jet wont be complete this year .

Righteousness89:
This is why the Churches should be open...

There is Little or Nothing the Government can do now...

Nigeria has had Ebola, Cholera, Lassa fever, HIV aids, Tuberculosis,etc we didn't lock down...

No African Nation is supposed to be on Lock down.. Our Leaders just copied what the Americans and Europeans were doing..

Africa is different Continent ! We have always had a way of Sorting out these things..

The Church has been a Major Help in things like this in Nigeria..

Let's stop Decieving ourselves.... We are not Americans, Americans are not us..

Pastorprenuer ...how market?

You seem to be emphasizing the re-opening of churches so business of brainwashing, extorting and false hope can resume.

Available

Available even during lockdown

Na wa

Roon9:
What of someone that doesn't know how to play poker. Is it easy to learn?

sure, everyone had to learn at some point

Chatflick:
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Governor of poker 3. You will love it

freetheking:
This are the set of people that ask Jesus to save himself if he is really the son of God.

Go and read your bible.

Even Jesus did several miracles including raising the dead so the people will believe.

So many of Jesus miracles were to convince people he was real.

He even told the disciples " Ye will do greater works than these"


From the look of things, it is quite evident, the God of the bible is quite different from the one you lots are calling.

Copy-copy no easy

toobusy:
........I vividly remember one case Ben Carson in his book gifted hand made mention of, about a baby who after undergoing brain surgery went into comma.....Ben said in a plain language that all medical hopes were lost but they kept praying for the baby,he specifically made it clear that how the baby came out of the comma was beyond scientific explanation,that he was sure the baby's survival was as a result of timely divine intervention..........in summary,YES.....Ben Carson never goes into almost all of his surgery without praying and in all his stories in both gifted hands and think big,Ben Carson always made clear the importance of prayers in his achievements

Ben Carson has not come out to convince the scientific community that his spirituality is responsible for his career success.

Until then, he is famous for being medical professional(science) and his spirituality is his burden.

andyanders:
To me, science thus failed to take care of this deadly pandemic. That translates that man could/cannot handle it.

I still believe that the solution to get over this is for man to turn to their creator. Why not the NCDC bring out comfirmed conavirus person/s, then invite a prophet of God on one side, and an Imam on the other side. Task them to call their gods so that we know their result and comfirm to the world as human doctors are still confused. With the above, we can know who is a true prophet or Imam so that we know who is real.

I love this challenge.

Remember Elijah in the bible?

Any pastor who cannot come out this period to prove the power of his God should forever remain silent.
After this pandemic now they start to make noise all over the place.

toobusy:
.........Sir please in all your getting,get wisdom,one of the finest neurosurgeon of all time in the person of Ben Carson was an ardent Christian who achieved so much through combination of science and his believe in Christianity,he is also a black American,why the constant denial of what is evidentially truthful.......you hatred for Christianity and the ministers of God cannot change the fact our God is a miracle worker and has continually proven that through his ministers

Did Ben Carson tell you his medical knowledge and expertise was gotten from christianity or the bible?

As a neurosurgeon, does he practice by praying for his patients and giving them anointing oil to drink?

ccollins:
God is supreme, don't be a fool. Know that science tries to understand the mysteries of creature but they fail always be the keys to secret of the visible and invisible belongs to the Most High God. Jesus is the only way

You deserve no response

honeyB2018:
You got wrong. Science and technology, as much as they have tried, are yet to find all solution to man's need, including your so called knowledge based economy.
But God still remains the ultimate power and source of all wisdom and knowledge, which he in bestows to men including the pastors.


Domdva

I don't know why people like you, love to take a swipe at the pastors, when they have not been given opportunity to demonstrates their God given power over Covid 19.
Pastors were asked to close down their churches, those who dare to open them are, harassed, arrested, taken to courts and are fined. So why blame and castigate them?
By the way, are there not medical conditions, that are beyond science, technology medication, that God by these lampooned pastors have healed in the past?

Delete this rubbish you wrote!

One major pillar in christianity is healing. This is the right time for pastors to come out and show to the world they are connected with God. How many of them have come out to tell the government they have the power to heal coronavirus patients?

Must the healing be in church?

Let the pastors go to the hospitals with the coronavirus patients and heal them .

Have you forgotten in bible times, even handkerchiefs blessed by the apostles healed whoever touched it?

Science doesn't have the solution to all medical problems of humans , but science has obvious proofs of big problems they have solved.

So many killer diseases of humans have been cured by science. What about religion?

Marshal9:
I'm someone that believes dreams are our recollected memory playing itself over and over like a tape on repeat.

But I've been having this dreams since I was a kid.

I've seen myself flying. It happens always and I never forget that particular dream when I do.

I understand that forgetting dreams have to do with a neurochemical reactions in the cerebral cortex of our brains particularly on something we cast our minds less.

But I've never thought of flying(thats not even possible) but why does it keep re-occurring.

I could forget 80% of my dreams upon waking up but I never forget the ones I've flown in it. Funny I kinda like the feeling though it's out of the world but I think it's about time I shared.
Perhaps someone with better enlightenment can help.

Dont mind those people trying to scam you with deliverance shhhit. They wish you come to their church so they can brainwash you to parting with your money.

There is nothing wrong in flying in dreams. Millions of people experience this everyday when they sleep. Flying in dreams is related to lucid dreams and out-of-body experiences (OBE).

Just like you noticed, you always remember when you have this dream. I have also had this dream since I was young. You are happy, refreshed and your memory is sharp whenever you wake up from such dreams.

Dont let anyone tag you a wizard or that you are possessed.

They are all con-artist.

fairfora:
Those guys I replied to are atheists and pagans. They were even mocking christianity and Chirst himself, though ignorantly... saying they were wondering why hasn't He come to save us from the covid-19....I related to them, the Nigerian scenario whom the world once attacked for being a religious nation, that we had churches on every streets and I said to them, the low figure couldn't have been unconnected with the fact that, God acknowledged Nigerians as those who are helpless and He's the helper of the helpless. How many vemtolators do we have? We also look up to Him as our all, contrary to some western countries where people hardly pray, go to church, do the unimaginable, legalising what God frowns at etc

I also cited what UK now does, converting deserted cathedrals and churches to malls clubs and cinema houses. Here, we are helpless yet we still worship God. Pls, read Psalm 20:7. The word of God is so clear on this...those who trust in horses and chariots and those who trust in God and the reward of doing so. Here we don't legalise what the bible kicked against. With what's happening now, the end isn't even here yet, it's the sign of the things predicted in the bible to happen at the beginning of it. My pastor actually predicted something worse to happen after this and to those who study their bible it's not supposed to be strange because not a single word of God would go unfulfilled. Cheers.

Why cant you just stop embarrassing yourself and your religion on a public forum like this.

You think someone like me dont believe in God because I refuse to swallow the ignorance your likes e.g Pastor Chris spew all over the internet?


Before the coronavirus pandemic, do you know the number of children that die yearly as a result of maternal mortality in Nigeria? Go check out the figures, Nigeria has one of the highest in the world. I wonder why your God didn't respond to that but suddenly became interested in protecting Nigerians from coronavirus.


Go check the number of Nigerians dying from malaria yearly, you will be shocked coronavirus is a learner where (as regards to death ) malaria is.

Go check the number of people that have died this year alone from contracting lassa fever in Nigeria. I wonder why your God isnt interested in protecting Nigerians from it.

The problem someone like you have is that when it comes to religion, you simply dump your brain or switch it off.

As for Nigeria having lower confirmed cases and mortality from covid 19 at the moment, you should know one of the reasons is because of our inadequate testing compared to other countries. We have the lowest numbers when it comes to testing for covid 19. Now that testing has improved, you can see the numbers going higher.


Another thing you should know is that the stage of the coronavirus pandemic in Nigeria is still at the beginning stage. We haven't gotten to the peak at all. We can only hope it doesn't get to the level as experienced in US, France or Spain. These countries are already at the peak of the infection. So sit back and observe and dont make hurried conclusions yet.

Lastly I will like to advise you use your brain while practicing religion. It will make you wiser.

fairfora:
An atheist like this OP would probably be one of those belonging to the wasted generations in the end.

Wait a minute, do you read the bible at all?

Never mind, the end is not here yet. It's one epidemic the whole world experienced and things began to fall apart. With this, it would be difficult to face the tribulations coming to the heads of the unbelievers like you, except you repent. It has never been this worse globally. This is just the sign of the end time and unless people like you repent, you shall likewise perish...it not me who said so, neither is it a curse. It's in the bible. The era of grace is drawing to an end gradually but deaf-eared people like you would never listen as it was in the day of Noah.

In china where the Corona virus was first detected, how many of them believe in God? I met a chinese who said openly he didn't believe in God. In Italy you mentioned, which used to be the seat of religion, how many of them acknowledge God in their way of life nowadays? The world headquarters of prostitution is Italy...you expect God to stay happy with a country where prostitution is legalised, where dogs have sex with human beings?

What of western countries where porn is legalised and innocent girls are being lured into sex-modeling , where scientists who don't believe on the existence of God thrive? Those who belong to God, even if they contract the disease, would survive it. When a sinner serves punishment, the upright would also have a share of it.

Nigeria is a country so loved by God. He knows we do not have a helper but Him. People have criticised Nigeria all over the world as the only country where there are a large number of churches. Now is the time God is paying His people back for acknowledging Him. Since last December, Nigeria has been witnessing an intensely hot weather. It had rained in Lagos 3 times heavily recently yet, the heat has remained unabated. Researchers have come up with their findings on the Coronavirus that, it cannot thrive under a hot weather and that's why gagging is recommended and use of hot water by the west. If you walk a 100 meters in lagos for instance, same with other parts of Nigeria, the heat that would greet you is huge. People are sweating profusely under their roofs...God had made this happen ahead, knowing fully well we are a helpless people. I've lived in lagos and Nigeria most of my life. I'm in my 40s and the heat since last December has been unprecedented. I wouldn't know if such was experienced before i was born.

This is the time an atheist like you the OP, the scientists whose knowledge and claims have failed them and those who never believe the end could come to this world to think twice. This is just an example of one of the many plagues that would hit the earth at the imminent end time.

You made this post on March 20th.

This is exactly one month after. I hope this your defense still holds.

According to you God is protecting Nigeria because there are many churches here but let those in the UK, USA, Italy etc be dying because they legalized porn and do prostitution.

Your brain couldn't process why thousands of Nigerians die yearly from malaria which isnt same with western countries.

Originakalokalo:
You don't know the Bible sir.

Read it well.

When God was angry with Jerusalem, and he brought their armies to take the children of Israel to captivity in Babylon,

Daniel, Shedrach Meshach and Abednego were also taken captive.

Few persons who were righteous were also taken into captivity.

Are you holy? Do you live a holy life?

Change your ways.... because the wrath of God is coming.

The world has not seen anything yet.

Are you saying coronavirus pandemic was caused by God?

Sorry sir your level of brainwashing is beyond repairs

Originakalokalo:
For those who think science is greater than God, you can see what ordinary virus is doing?

They say there are other 50 deadlier viruses that have not jumped on humans yet.... imagine 5 of these coming at once?

We have conquered the space, tamed animals but our society stinks of violence, killings, sexual perversion etc.

Sodom and Gomorah did not do as much as we have done.

Those in the days of Noah were saints compared to this present world.

We deserve what is happening to us and much more.

I don't need to mince words here....God is angry with the world. He is in charge and has decided to shut everyone down.

Change your ways, accept Jesus and live a holy life.

Jesus will save you from sin and give you eternal life.

Remove the log from your eyes and see you didn't make any sense from wat you have written.


How many covid 19 patients has your church healed?

You remember the bible says you will do greater works than Jesus?
Why are all the pastors who claim to know Jesus gone into their holes leaving medical science to battle coronavirus?

Shouldn't this be the right time for Christians to prove the power of their God by healing infected people?

shadeyinka:
The Universe has been scientifically shown to have a beginning just as every religious teaching that speaks of the origin of the universe.

The fundermental question then is HOW did the material universe come into existence.
The religious people say the Universe was created BY non material beings
The scientific atheists say the Universe came out of nothing.
The non scientific atheist either blindly support the scientific atheists or pretend not to care.

Now you say:
However, as with any opinion/theory, the holder must also be ready to logically defend it, as well as for such opinion/theory to face thorough scrutiny for verification of facts using existing evidence.

1. Is there a logical or scientific defence for the universe coming out of existence from nothing?
2. Do you expect a physical evidence from non-physical Extraterrestrial beings who theists say created the universe?
3. If your instrument cannot detect a signal, it that a positive and conclusive indication that the subject of measurement doesn't exist?

As for your number 3 question, many of the scientific findings and breakthroughs were mysteries before instruments and tools were made to understand them.

Just as it is error to conclude that something doesn't exist because you dont understand it , it is also error to use "Gods of the gaps" as answers to things that are not understood or known at this time.

K

post=88676611:
Says a supporter of criminals.
Shameless lots.
Always sniffing for terrible and bad news they can masturbate on online like Bingo.
They are not happy that for the very first time, there is no new Coronavirus case in Lagos state.
Just imagine!
Enemy of the state.

Take am and go to bed abeg.........

Seun Lalasticlala rule 2.

Pls enforce so nairaland will have sane people

Available for dispatch

Wow!


Seun lalasticlala new coronavirus update

Lagos on the beat

Just like a dead vegetable

They played an edited video for us

Nollywood speech