Kingozymandias:
He looks 51. That is the problem with Nigerians football = age falsification

Your eyes dey work like dis ?

Chikacha:
I think my mind has been playing with me but I have been think... We already have a BTC futures where be basically trade paper BTC that does not exist.
Now they want the Spot ETF , where actual BTC would be collected and given to the buyer. At the same time that all these are happening, we are getting a halving, where we won't be able to mine as much as we used to....My brothers and sisters in crypto my question now is "Do we have enough BTC for all this?"

BTC is deflationary in nature. Meaning the amount of BTC is finite so as demand for it goes up, the effect will be on the price as it will go up too.

As more people are chasing a fixed number of BTC, the price will continue to higher and higher.

Another propaganda for APC e-bots and e-rats to mast.urbate on.

RedboneSmith:


Ok. Here goes.

First of all, I will have to point out that Naiwu Osahon is not a historian - the man has no advanced degree of any sort in any field of history. His LinkedIn page lists all sorts of esoteric titles: Hon. Khu Mkuu (whatever that means), Ameer Spiritual, etc. There's nothing anywhere to suggest that he is a professional historian or has ever published anything on history in a peer-reviewed academic journal. So I'm not going to be referring to him as a historian; I will be referring to him as the author.

1.The author claims the name 'Ife' comes from the Edo word 'Uhe' and means 'va.gina'. Okay, cool story. Considering the fact that Ife or Ufe is a common place-name across the Yoruboid world - from Igala (which speaks a Yoruboid language), to Okun area, to central Yoruba area and even all the way in Benin Republic - but does not occur even once in the Edo area as a place name, it is very easy to identify the Edocentricism in the author's claim. Also the Yoruba do have a Yoruba etymology for the name 'Ife', and I can think of at least one more etymology which matches the topography of the place-name. So your author was definitely incorrect when he claimed Ife to be a non-Yoruba word.

2. Then he went further to make the claim that Ifa rituals and ceremonies must involve Bini traditional faith custodians to be considered authentic. A historian would attach at least one good reference to this claim. There is a vast literature on Ifa. I mean, literally hundreds of books and academic papers have been written on Ifa. He could not bring one of this sources to support this claim? Now, even assuming that no scholar has explored that particular aspect of Ifa rituals, did he witness it himself? Or did he hear about it from a reliable person? A historian who understands the historical method would include that source and relevant details about them in a footnote. There's no such thing here. The author just throws in an unreferenced claim and quickly moved on. That's not scholarly. Again, the authors Edocentric bias is clear to see.

Anyway, on this Oduduwa-Ekaladerhan issue, if Edo historians (trained historians, not accidental ones, like Osahon) are objective and honest with themselves and are willing to apply strict historical methods to the story of Ekaladerhan, they will easily see how the original traditions about Ekaladerhan was deliberately distorted especially since 1970 and they will understand why it has happened.

1. I challenge you or anybody else to find a single account that predates the 1960s and 1970s where it was said that Ekaladerhan went to Ile-Ife or even had anything to do with Ile-Ife. The original story of Ekaladerhan was that he was the son of the last Ogiso Owodo; due to some unfortunate events, he had to flee from Benin; he went south and established himself at Ughoton. Years later, back home in Benin, it was found that Ekaladerhan's exile had been an unfortunate mistake or a malicious plot and an embassy was sent to bring him back. Ekaladerhan refused to return and even fought an army that was sent from Benin to forcibly bring him back. Ekaladerhan lived the rest of his life in Ughoton and died there.

This is the account you will find in all pre-1970 records of Benin history. From Ling Roth in 1903 to Egharevba in 1934 and all the subsequent editions of his work down to 1965. They all agree that Ekaladerhan went to Ughoton, lived the rest of his days there, never returned to Benin and certainly never went to Ife. Again, if you can find a single account from before 1965 that says Ekaladerhan went to Ife, I will immediately apologise for typing rubbish.

2. It was not until around 1970 that the claim of Ekaladerhan going to Ile-Ife surfaced for the first time in the writing of Osaren S. B. Omoregie. Omoregie's story is even different from the one told in Benin today, but it was the first recorded step in that direction. According to Omoregie, Ekaladerhan fled from Benin to Ughoton, then he fled again from Ughoton and wandered around until he came to Ile-Ife. In Ile-Ife, he was adopted into the royal family and adopted the name Omonoyan, which was corrupted to Oranmiyan. Ekaladerhan-now-Omonoyan returned from Ile-Ife to Benin to found the Oba dynasty. Cool story. But apparently, some people in Benin didn't think it was cool enough. Why make Ekaladerhan an adopted prince and a protege of a Yoruba kingdom when he could be a bonafide founding king of a Yoruba state and a pivotal figure not only in Edo history but in the history of all Yoruba as well? Greater Benin and all. So they decided to again change it a little bit.

3. Between 1971 and 1973, three Benin writers (Prince Edun Akenzua, D.U. Edebiri and Air Iyare) re-recrafted the story of Ekaladerhan. In the new account that emerged from their workshop, Ekaladerhan was not adopted into the Ife royal family. There was no royal family in Ife to adopt him. Ife had no king, so the natives accepted to make this prince their king. According to Iyare in 1973, on the day he was installed as the first Oba of Ife, he proclaimed in Edo language, "Ikpomwosa! Idoduwa!" which means "I thank God! I have chosen the path to greatness!" Idoduwa was then corrupted by the Yoruba to Oduduwa.

One can trace the pattern of changing of the Ekaladerhan story thus:-

Up to 1965: Ekaladerhan was a Benin prince who was exiled to Ughoton and died there.
In 1970: Ekaladerhan did not die in Ughoton. He went to Ile-Ife and became Oranmyian
Between 1971 and 1973: He went to Ile-Ife, but instead of becoming Oranmiyan, he became Oranmiyan's father Oduduwa.

Who knows what he will become 75 years from today.

I will like to add here that students of African history will do well to study a phenomenon known as the lost-heir theme or the exiled-heir theme. This phenomenon was discussed albeit not exhaustively by David Henige in his paper "Oral Tradition and Chronology".

In brief, the legend of the lost or exiled heir is used especially by pre-literate cultures to hide the fact that they have experienced a change in dynasty or that they have accepted a new line of foreign rulers. So instead of admitting that one dynasty has ended and a new foreign dynasty has come to power, many pre-literate societies will come up with the claim that the founder of the new dynasty is actually a prince from the old dynasty who got lost or was exiled, but has now returned to re-establish the rule of his fathers and thus ensure dynastic continuity. This phenomenon accounts for why preliterate African kingdoms appear to have far fewer successive dynasties than their counterparts in Europe and Asia. Historians have identified instances where this exiled-heir device was used in other African kingdoms like Buganda and Rwanda. Robin Law also suspects that the Bariba exile of the Alaafin of Oyo in the 16th century has been used to cleverly mask the fact that Oyo may have experienced a dynastic change at this period which probably brought in a line of Bariba Alaafin. This is exactly what Omoregie, Edebiri and Iyare did with the Eweka dynasty between 1970 and 1973. (By the way, I don't think this is the only time this device has been used in Benin tradition. It may have been used at least two other times - but let me not get into that.)

It is more than likely that the line of rulers that replaced the Ogiso in Benin was of Yoruba origin.

Nice constructive criticism.
However, i guess you are aware just as there are loopholes in the Benin versions of Oduduwa's history, there are also loopholes in the Yoruba's history of Oduduwa.
Infact the Benins version may seem to some people more credible because the story of Oduduwa coming all the way from Egypt or that he climbed down from the sky using a chain is at best ridiculous tales.

Also, most of the early Nigerian historians who wrote on the History of Benin and Ife were Yorubas.
Their conflict of interest was very obvious in their works. The half-truths in their works were beginning to pass off as facts before some Benins started countering them and writing their own versions.

Chikacha:


Apart from ETF, nothing... just the 4 years circle.

What else do you want to be on the table?

Bitcoin halving that makes people millionaires is what you call "just"

Chikacha:


What he is telling you is the same for all assets, look at NAKA is that not bull run enough. Even the yeye Ranker I was swinging is not dumping anymore. This is the time to buy the things that you want to hold till 2025. In 6 months time, nor be wytin we dey talk now we go dey talk ooo.

I bought NAKA and GMEE just about two weeks ago and my investment is already doubled.

Ifeanyi4491:
Bro Do you have any idea on whats going on with B.N.B it's seems not to be risen like other instead it keep on dropping gradually

The recent report that led to previous CEO of Binance resigning.

But it will take some time and BNB will resume some bullishness.

Another audio announcement.

At the end, Nigeria remains the way it is.

Shut everywhere down.

The country failed a long time ago.

And he skipped a very important aspect.

How come the Aworis were now paying taxes to the Benins?



This people will never accept the truth.

Sadwaste:

Amobi Kachi
@Kachi_Amobi
I AND MY IGBONESS

By Chetachukwu Wokoma (Ikwerre Son)

I and my Igboness is a reality that I can never regret to pursue. My Igboness is inherent and also runs in my veins.

As an Ikwerrian, I can not deny my Igboness no matter the pressure mounted on me. Those who, by nature, are Igbos with Igbo names, culture, language, and tradition, but stupidly deny their Igbo ancestry are glorified "fools."

If you are very desperate to question me, you must first off question your [Igbo] name. I work with superior arguments and not unnecessary arguments.

It is interesting to note that the foundation of Nigeria and her citizens are wickedly demostrating their persistent hatred on Igbos. Any Rivers man or woman bearing an Igbo name should consider his or her selves as "Igbo," not by mistake but by nature's design.

According to your logic, a man from Bayelsa called Goodluck Jonathan who speaks English
and wears corporate suite must definitely be an English man.

LegendHero:


Is the greedy Oba of Benin your father?

Check the comment I replied to and ask the guy who those he referred to as “animals” in his post.

If you can’t reprimand the guy, why are you wasting your unprecious time trying to engage me?

Imagine a Benin person telling a Yoruba person that he lack parenting. No be prostitution and human trafficking una elders dey do for that your tiny city?

Continue the name calling and insults. Its a testament your parent failed at grooming you.

There is no tribe that doesn't have members who engage in all of those vices you mentioned including your own tribe.

LegendHero:
While the Greedy Oba of Benin was busy wasting his unprecious time about claiming Lagos, Obaseki is busy strategizing on how to divide his tiny Edo kingdom into multiple Oba states.

Greediness is not good in this life. Ogiso of Benin would have learnt his lesson by now.

Now his current tiny Benin kingdom with landmass less than one local government in Oyo state will now be divided into multiple tiny kingdom will landmass size less than that of a voting ward.

Mike Adenuga should just buy the whole Benin palace so we can convert it to an Owambe arena.

Insulting anyone just because of how you feel is a symptom of failed parenting and a childhood of trauma.

Your life must be really terrible to start with. You need therapy to fix the chronic trauma in your life.

Davidnilla:
I've been dreaming about writing exams.

But I'll be writing rubbish and keep changing the answer paper.

Even when I have expo to copy from, I find it difficult to write properly.

In this process, I do wake up.

Sometimes it'll be in an old school I went before, sometimes, somewhere I don't know but it'll be an exam hall.

Sometimes I see my sec school classmates faces, but I see a particular guys face often, my best guy in school then, in every dream like this, his face is always around.

Last time in this kind of dream, I found a book with the exact date I left secondary school (2018).

What does this dream mean

Dreams of sitting for exam are usually straightforward and one of the easiest dreams to understand.

Most times this dream is saying you are passing through a life preparatory phase.

There is a standard that is set before you in the future and currently you are not doing enough to meet it.

More like you are not prepared enough or not taking the right steps/ putting enough attention/time into whatever you are doing right now which will be required for you to meet the standard set before you in the future.

My advise: Sit down and meditate. Think about that area of your life that bothers you. Measure your preparedness for your immediate future plans.

Are you really putting in your best?

Are you sure of your current carree/job?

Are you postponing certain decisions you need to take to change your life?

Onana what's the name

This is exactly what i explained to someone here on NL.

When people here Oba of Benin, they should understand its a shortened form of the original title.

MSN1:

Kids will ALWAYS b kid!.

I have friends in ALL classes;
Extremely Rich, Rich, Middle class and Poor.

I don't talk out of foolishness or hearsay stories, this is RAW experiences.

TIME has a lot to teach pipo like u.

Enjoy d rest of ur day.

You didn't have to get mad at me!

I only made suggestions. It wasn't a do or die for you ro accept it.

Run away from Nigerian women resident abroad.

Many of them have the whiteman's gender equality law written all over their behavior/character.Them carry am for head like gala. They are quick to remind you that they can throw you out of the house if you offend them.

They are very arrogant and have thrown away the respect women accord men back home.

The worst part is many of them become single mums and their toxic behaviors ensures they are chronically sex-starved. They are usually happy with their single mum status because they see it as a means of income from the government.

They are quick to ensure your marriage with them dont work so they start getting support money from you as well as getting paid by government.

MSN1:
*Gone are those days that pipo have the mentality that; Gossiping was ladies thing.
*Gone are the days MEN speak and women shiver.
*Gone are the days MEN take responsibility for their actions.

--I am an extreme extrovert and som1 dat don't select class of pipo to roll with, I HAVE D NOTION DAT; WE ARE ALL EQUAL AND ANYBODY CAN BE LIFTED OR DOWNGRADED, hence the reason i don't segregate.
I have close pals from ALL classes.

For sometime now, i have noticed that; A lot of guys now take to gossiping their guys to fellow guys, mehn; It really hurts because, back then,guys seat and drink together, discussing big moves and plans.

MOST times, i come out to catch fun, because i am d outing type and all i would hear; ARE GUYS BACK BITTING AND GOSSIPING THEIR FELLOW GUYS!.
What wud a reasonable guy stand to gain from gossiping or mocking his fellow guy?. wen growing up; we attributed those things to women.

Women are gradually taking ova authority because; we have a lot of weak and confused men, that are seriously making manhood to seem like a joke.

I was with a group of guys few hours ago and what they were doing was; gossiping from one of their fellow nigga to d other. I JUST TOOK EXCUSE AND LEFT THEM.

One was even telling tales of ALL the loose and promiscuous girls in d neighborhood and funny enuf, this is same guy that keeps terrorising the minor girls in the area !.

These pipo have sisters and they don't know that; WOTS GOES AROND, COMES AROND.
They will b in places where they will discuss their sisters looseness too.

IN ALL, LADIES HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, because; 1MILLION MEN ARE REDY TO FVCK U BUT SEEING 2 ,DAT WILL WIFE U, IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

Change your cycle of male friends.

And probably your environment.

Padipadi:

Tell Oba Ewure abi na Ewuare to explain who's the father of Eweka the 1st. Tell him to tell the whole world the meaning of Oba. Maybe it's Old Benin Association. Tell him to also say the meaning of Benin.

First start by telling us the meaning of Yoruba

And then proceed to tell us where Oduduwa come from.


And then finally give us the meaning of " Omo Noba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo" in Yoruba language.

Then i will take you serious.

Greyworld:


If not foolishness, pray tell what the shade is about. He is pained he is not Igbo. The warrant chiefs or not Indirect rule failed in the east but we know whose kings bowed to the British queen (Princess perhaps) and those that where deposed and exiled.

We know also from history those who revolted against imperialism. If the East doesn't have Kings original is nothing to mock, Isreal never had kings but judges.

Funny enough, in Nigeria today a king can be deposed by a mare governor even the highly respected Emir/ Emirate of Kano so rest.

Which of the King are you shading?

If Pre-colonial Nigeria had two or more Kings like the Oba of Benin, Nigeria wouldn't exist today and that would have been better for those known as Nigerians today.

Did anyone from present day Southeast Nigeria put up a fight against the British/colonialism?

None...

Reno throwing shades

Can someone tell me what Reno meant by the bolded?

"I am not for or against what HRM Ewuare II said. I am just for HRM Ewuare II. "We do not say you should agree with him. But even if you must disagree, do so with the utmost respect. This is not some warrant chief created by the British. This is the scion of a dynasty that created the greatest civilisation in Black Africa. Show some respect!"

Holla911:


You do not believe in obatala flocktale but believe in that of that of Elijah chariot ride to heaven ?

I dont believe those too.

christistruth01:


The fact that your Ancestors didn't preserve your History doesn't mean that everyone else has no History

The Obatala's were the first Dynasty of the Ile Ife kings the Oduduwa dynasty of kings replaced them

The fact that some Idol Worshippers deified Sango doesn't mean that he was not the 4th Alaafin of Oyo , he was

I put it to you...Obatala never existed.


And when we talk about preservation of history...there is no tribe that does it better than the Edo people..

Everything about our history well-preserved.

christistruth01:



The Olowu of Obasanjo's Owu descended from Obatala too they are actual thrones and people that still exist today

I put it to you that the History of the Yorubas is as vast as that if Ancient England if not more

This is 2023!

You are not supposed to be talking about Obatala in a public forum where serious discussion is being made.

Obatala story at best is a myth and should only be told as a folklore to children in the village under moonlight.


Just imagine someone talking about Obatala in this age...

So you believed Obatala came from Heaven to earth with a hen with five toes, a pigeon, and a calabash containing a piece of dry soil.

christistruth01:


All the ifo Towns in Yorubaland were founded by the Obatala dynasty of kings and their descendants

Are the Ifo kings a myth

Obatala is myth...never happened.

It only existed in folklore and fairytales.

There is no physical proof of Obatala dynasty and whatever they did.