Empiree:
did you read my post on context or you just being silly?

Aside insults and being violent, what can moslems do better?

Empiree:



DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL


Luke 21:22-24

"Then those in Judea must flee to the hills. Those in Jerusalem must get out, and those out in the country should not return to the city.

For those will be days of God’s vengeance, and the prophetic words of the Scriptures will be fulfilled.

How terrible it will be for pregnant women and for nursing mothers in those days. For there will be disaster in the land and great anger against this people

They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive among all nations, and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

The prophecy has been fulfilled. Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD and Jews were dispersed among the nations and in 1948, they returned to their EVERLASTING heritage.

Empiree:

Quran


"(It) may be your Lord that (may) have mercy upon you. But if you return to wickedness, We will return punishment. And We have made Hell, for the disbelievers, a prison-bed."

Drop the verse, I want to read it myself.

Empiree:


Hear from horse's mouth. You know better than this Orthodox Jewish Rabbi?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86ZCqOZGoH8

you are Christian now Jewish. Jews don't believe in your god. So what's your business with them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ffneB51jws

Jews don't believe in Jesus. We know that already, just as they don't believe in your meccan idol.

I heard the koran was written 20 years after the death of Mohammed and Caliph Umar ordered moslem to burn their original copies of koran for his version.

Is this true?

AmazonTopaz:

It is not by force to be a Muslim so just shut up and stop forcing beliefs on me or labeling me to be what I am not.

You are a moslem ma and YOU MUST accept Islam.

Stop denying allah because of social media.

Buliwyf:


Says the guy who doesn't know what "razed" means. Lol. What a pity.

To demolish and level to the ground. I hope you are not mistaking the word for inferno?

I know you have a problem comprehending English.

AmazonTopaz:

Stop mentioning me,I don't care.


Please be guided.

Ok ma. Just be proud of Islam

Empiree:
your statement here is evil. Silence or trying to remain neutral is worse. See screenshot below. If your religious doctrine is in conflict with humanitarian then you must drop your religion

Jerusalem is the undivided and eternal capital of the Jewish people. Palestinians are thieves and land grabbers.

Empiree:

Muslims have to uncomfortably admit that Israel is here to stay until Divine intervention but it doesn't mean giving up. It is a test and trial for Muslims in order to expose hypocrites amongst them. Therefore, Israel will shine more and may or may not destroy and reoccupy Gaza strip for obvious reasons (military might) but military might is nothing when God is ready for deal with them.

Israel has no business in Gaza strip again.

Empiree:


So Quran already hinted that Jewish people will return to the Holy land to reclaim it

I am glad your Koran also admitted that Jerusalem is Jewish land.

Empiree:

That's why he gathered there again because that's the land they disobeyed God and that's where God wants to give them final blow.

Drop a link from Koran. I want to read it myself.

Empiree:


This is why if you are observant, truth Jews are scared to return to the Holy Land. They know they are being set up by God. Watch Rabbi Weiss. So Quran says "if you return to your wickedness, God will return His punishment" Q 17.

True Jews believe the Torah not Koran and their God promised them the land as an everlasting heritage. So, stop lying.

Empiree:


Now they have returned to their wickedness and you should expect their punishment. There is no forgiveness again collectively but individual Jews who accepts Islam will be forgiving.

Empiree:


You can see they have violated the two conditions given them again. They are now practicing and legalizing homosexuality, usury, mock God and His prophets. The first time they violated conditions God sent them Babylonian army. The second time was Roman army. And the third and final army will be Muslim army.

Third time, ke.

You don't even know what you are saying. Jesus prophesied that the jews would be scattered all over the world until the time of the gentiles is up. Jews have returned to their everlasting heritage and they are not going anywhere again.

Empiree:


There is a prophecy in Hadith of prophet muhammad that there will continue to be upright Muslims in the holy land around al-Aqsa Mosque who will continue to struggle against oppression until they triumph

Hadith?

We don't believe that BS that was written many generations after the death of Mohammed.

AmazonTopaz:

You be proud of Allah since you serve him.

I am not a terrorist ma

Please be guided.

AmazonTopaz:

That one is your problem and not my business.

Ok ma. Just be proud of allah

Buliwyf:


Yes I agree. Muslims are pathetic. Even worse than Christians lol. But that doesn't mean you Christians are not pathetic too. Case in point your pathetic gymnastics on this thread LMAO

Until you learn how to read properly, you'll always have challenges understanding texts as simple as the ones I posted.

AmazonTopaz:

So everyone with a contrary opinion is a Muslim you are not that bright.

I am not a Muslim.

You are a moslem ma.

Buliwyf:


Lol. The Christian guy who twists stories is providing a link to a Christian website to support his claim that the twisted stories are not twisted.

Like I said, you moslems are pathetic. That's a link to read the Bible online.

Buliwyf:


US do not need the Iron Dome as much as Israel does. So what is the use of getting it except for maybe research. It will be cost prohibitive to try to protect the US with such a system because the US is too large and nobody is firing rockets at them every day unlike Israel. But they have such systems on their aircraft carriers and battleships. Wasn't that my point from the beginning?

Why the merry-go-round? Maybe you should do a research on the most powerful armies in the world to get the answer to who will win between France and Israel. The fact that you are ignorant of France's military capabilities tells me all I need to know about you. You are just boasting based on hearsay and not based on any deep knowledge of the subject matter.

France and Israel has no business going to war but should it happen, my bet is on Israel to win. Mossad is far more powerful than French intelligence and they know their job.

But take it to the bank, a war between France and Israel will never happen.

hansomb:

"israel considered the war a failure because they failed to take all their opportunities, they should have hit Hez with full force disregarding the Lebanese govt."

Israeli PM fired some of his Generals because they didn't take all their full opportunities, but at that, they didn't lose the war. Hezbollah claimed victory after suffering heavy losses just like Hamas did yesterday.

Just wait, in the next few years you'll start hearing from moslems that they defeated Israel in the war.

Buliwyf:


Maybe you should get a dictionary. You don't know what razed means. You need to get an education. Yes I agree, Muslims are as pathetic as christians are. Any religious person is pathetic to me lol.

The verse didn't say some of them. It says none of them will taste death lol. You are lying just like your Muslim counterparts. Why do you need lies to defend your failed and failing religion. So the verse was addressing 2 different things at the same time? Lol. This is too much gymnastics even for a Christian.

Like I said, you have problem comprehending English.

Even children can address two issues from one question.

Read Luke 5 here https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21&version=NKJV and have sense.

AmazonTopaz:


Please don't drag religion into this

We will drag religion into it because you moslems started it first.

Buliwyf:


Do you think that if David lost wars brutally and made a strategic mess, you will read about it in the bible? By the way Palestinians aren't Philistines. But it's not like objective history is your strong suit anyway.

These Palestinians are not Philistines.

Ancient Philistines were called Palestines by ancient Greeks and they were annihilated by Assyrian Empire. Gaza was the capital of Philistine in the Bible.

Buliwyf:


I meant Constantine not Nero. I always keep remembering Nero more for some reason. Fortunately I am not a Muslim. But your Holy Spirit didn't tell you that right? Another fake power you religious people claim to have. Jesus said the temple will be thrown down stone by stone. But it was razed instead. So it clearly failed and you guys are trying to fix it by force lol.

You moslems are pathetic. Jesus said "...until no stone is left unturned" that is razed.

Buliwyf:

Even in the stuff you wrote and highlighted, the world was supposed to end when Jerusalem was sacked and Jews were led to captivity. I am not even sure you read what you wrote.

Like I said, you guys are pathetic. Jesus said Jews would be scattered across the world "until the time of the Gentiles is up", meaning Isrealis would return home.

Buliwyf:


You guys are as dishonest as the Muslims you rail against. You use that same Luke chapter to point out that Jesus predicted the end of Jerusalem. But you also use the same chapter to say it's the end times. So which is it? Is it the end of Jerusalem or the end times? LMAO

Are you sure you can comprehend simple English? Jesus addressed two issues in that Chapter.

Buliwyf:


Nations have been rising against nations since the beginning of time and won't end today as long as there are humans grouped into what can be considered as nations. Secondly, you didn't address the prophecy about the disciples not dying. You admit it failed right? That's all I need to know.

The verse says some of them would be alive to witness the fall of Jerusalem. Jerusalem fell about 35 years later.

hansomb:
just shut up. Israel that was disgracefully chased out of Lebanon by Hesbollah in 2006. Everything na time

Lol.

Hez claimed victory after Israeli dealt with them to save face just as Gazans are claiming victory over Israel yesterday. Go and read the about the Israel-Lebanon war and stop disgracing yourself. Even on the eve of the cease fire Israeli continued to bomb Hezbollah locations destroying an entire street.

Hezbollah killed 121 IDF soldiers while Israel killed close to 800 Hezbollahs and 43 Lebaneses soldiers. The total death was 1,191 according to Lebanese govt and over 1 million were displaced.

Lebanese government didn't enter the war so Israel wasn't fighting war against Lebanese, and as such couldn't exert their military power against the terror elements. It's just like BH and Niger fighting a war, with BH hiding under Nigerian civilian to fight the war while Nigeri respond without violating Nigerian territorial integrity and soverignty.

Do you even know Israel destroyed most of Hezbollah rocket within 1 hour the war started and Hez were launching their remaining rockets from Lebanese govt buildings? How do you expect Israel to respond to such attack with full force when they are not fighting against Lebanese govt?

Israel used basically psychological warfare to fight the war and despite this, inflicted heavy damages on Lebanon and was pressured to accept ceasefire in August but Israel continued to blockade Lebanon till sept.

israel considered the war a failure because they failed to take all their opportunities, they should have hit Hez with full force disregarding the Lebanese govt.

Only Hezbollah sympathizers believed Hez won the war.

Buliwyf:


Jesus didn't prophecy the sacking of Jerusalem. You guys just twisted his words in hindsight to suit the narrative. What Jesus prophesied literally was that his disciples won't see death before he returned but it turned out to be false.

Luke 21: 5 Then, as some spoke of the temple, how it was [c]adorned with beautiful stones and donations, He said, 6 “These things which you see—the days will come in which not one stone shall be left upon another that shall not be thrown down.”
You guys ignore the words Jesus said verbatim because it failed but then you took another event that happened decades later and tried to shoehorn it into the prophecy.

After giving the prophecy, His disciples asked Him two questions:

7[i] So they asked Him, saying, “Teacher, but when will these things be? And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?”
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Instead of Jesus answering the questions, He started talking about the end time (remember, Jesus is not known to answer questions directly)

8 And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ [d]Therefore do not [e]go after them. 9 But when you hear of wars and commotions, do not be terrified; for these things must come to pass first, but the end will not come immediately.”

10 Then He said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven. 12 But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and rulers for My name’s sake. 13 But it will turn out for you as an occasion for testimony. 14 Therefore settle it in your hearts not to meditate beforehand on what you will [f]answer; 15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom which all your adversaries will not be able to contradict or [g]resist. 16 You will be betrayed even by parents and brothers, relatives and friends; and they will put some of you to death. 17 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. 18 But not a hair of your head shall be lost. 19 By your patience possess your souls.

In Verse 19, He answered the questions. Now pay attention to verse 24.

20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

From verse 24, Jesus started talking about the end time again.

25[i] “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”[/i]

You're a moslem, so I don't expect you to read the Bible objectively.

Buliwyf:

And no Christianity was already spreading even before the events of the sacking of Jerusalem. Paul was already writing to Christians in Corinth and Thessaly long before then.

Sacking of Jerusalem led to a more wide spread of Christianity.

Buliwyf:

The Christianity that eventually spread was the one sanctioned by Nero in the council of Nicea and by systematic extermination of other sects of Christianity which could have been the true one

Lol.

Emperor Nero reigned in 50 AD while the first Council of Nicea was held in 325 AD.

But do you know one of your Caliphs commissioned Zayyad to write the koran and then burn all other copies of koran worldwide and bury the ashes. One man wrote the koran 20 years after the death of Mohammed and another ordered other copies of the koran to be destroyed.

Your most authentic hadith Sahih Bukhari was written 232 years after the birth of Mohammed.

Buliwyf:


They conveniently forget the many times Israel has been sacked. Even the Romans sacked it and razed the temple but nothing happened to them. But these religious zealots will tell you that nothing can happen to Israel bla bla bla forgetting that Israel only flexes it's muscles against small and technologically disadvantaged countries. The day a big country decide to take them on, it will be like Rome all over again. No belief in god can stop it then.

You also forgot that Jesus prophesized the Roman sacking of Jerusalem. It was a prophecy that helped spread Christianity.

AmazonTopaz:

How is Isreal God's own and you are not?

If not for America Isreal would be nothing.Stop bringing God into this political nonsense

You mean Isrealis that started fighting wars even on their war to Cannan from Egypt. David alone fought 31 wars and won all and his first war was against this same Palestinians (Philistines).

Even Bible told us that warfare will NEVER depart from Israel until Jesus comes. The same Bible told us to pray for the peace of Jerusalem because in her peace, we shall have peace.

AmazonTopaz:

I have read this Mr and you are the one confusing yourself.If you wanna talk about Israel being there before it became a state in 1948 then you will agree that the land it is currently occupying is smaller than what it occupied before now.

Also the Palestinians are not Philistines the Assyrian ruler called the place Palestine-Assyria earlier on that doesn't make the Palestinians Philistines
Get a much better updated source

Palestinians are not Philistines but the Roman Empire renamed Isreal Palestine.

Greeks and Romans pronounced Philistine as Palestinae. If you read the Bible you'll find out that Gaza, Ashkelon and Ashdod are all Philistine cities but Jerusalem and most of the West Banks are not Palestinian. Moslems are thieves and land grabbers.

Palestinians want Jerusalem divided but Jews don't, because it is their land.

Curious345:
Yeah true

Empiree

Arewa remove Illorin from your madness. What is happening to Hamas in Gaza will be a child's play to what will happen to Fulanis when the time comes.

motayoayinde:


THIS CLICHE ABOUT PALESTINE NOT WANTING ISRAEL TO EXIST IS WORN OUT.

FOR YEARS NOW, THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY HAS AGREED TO WHAT'S KNOW AS THE "TWO STATE SOLUTION", ONE IN WHICH BOTH STATES WILL LIVE SIDE BY SIDE ACCORDING TO THE 1967 BORDERS.

THE PROBLEM IS, PALESTINE NEEDS TO BE A SOVEREIGN STATE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN BUT ISRAEL AND HER ALLIES HAVE CONSISTENTLY BLOCKED ALL MOVES BY PALESTINE TO BE RECOGNIZED AS AN INDEPENDENT STATE, AT THE UN AND ELSEWHERE.

SECONDLY, ISRAEL DOESN'T WANT A TWO STATE SOLUTION WITH THE 1967 BORDERS. IT WANTS TO AMASS AS MUCH OF PALESTINIAN TERRITORY AS POSSIBLE BEFORE PALESTINE BECOMES A SOVEREIGN STATE (if ever).

ALTHOUGH IT'S BECOMING CLEARER THAT WHAT ISRAEL WANTS IS NOT A TWO STATE SOLUTION OR MORE PALESTINIAN LANDS,
WHAT ISRAEL WANTS IS THE COMPLETE ANNIHILATION OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE AND THE ANNEXATION OF ALL THEIR LANDS.
AND IT'S TRYING TO DO THAT THROUGH GENOCIDE AND ETHNIC CLEANSING THAT WE CAN ALL NOW SEE.

West Bank is completely Israeli land. Palestinian don't have any ancestral land in West Bank.

The only Palestinian land are Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon and other surrounding cities.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel under David and Judah after the division of Israel.

Samaria was the capital of Israel after Solomon.

David was first crowned King in Hebron and Palestinians are claiming all these land

shogsman:

You obviously haven't been following the story sir,the rockets and stones was because Israel demolished their houses and forcefully evicted hundreds of them from their own land and home in East Jerusalem,they went ahead to injure,shoot and killed over a dozen Palestinian in their mosque while they were praying.
Now the lot of you are saying Israel is right to defend themselves so are you saying Palestine was wrong to defend themselves after Israel killed it's people

You people are the problem.

Palestinian have not claim whatsoever over Jerusalem.

David conquered that city from Jebusites 1,000 BC and that land is not even near to Philistines.

In case you are ignorant, Palestine was what ancient Greeks called the Philistines.

When the Roman Empire conquered Jerusalem in 70 AD, they renamed Israel to Palestine to obliterated Jewish identity.

joyandfaith:


Your source pls?
When did Palestine become a nation or kingdom and who was there first ruler?

Empires

Kindly answer this question

v2:
Read History.
The land was initially occupied by the Jews. There was a name change after the land was conquered by the Romans

In 66 CE, the First Jewish–Roman War began. The revolt was put down by the future Roman emperors Vespasian and Titus. In the Siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE, the Romans destroyed much of the Temple in Jerusalem and, according to some accounts, plundered artifacts from the Temple, such as the Menorah. Jews continued to live in their land in significant numbers, the Kitos War of 115–117 notwithstanding, until Julius Severus ravaged Judea while putting down the Bar Kokhba revolt of 132–136. 985 villages were destroyed and most of the Jewish population of central Judaea was essentially wiped out – killed, sold into slavery, or forced to flee. Banished from Jerusalem, which was renamed Aelia Capitolina, the Jewish population now centered on Galilee, initially at Yavneh.

After the Jewish-Roman wars (66–135), Hadrian changed the name of Iudaea province to Syria Palaestina and Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina in an attempt to erase the historical ties of the Jewish people to the region. In addition, after 70, Jews and Jewish Proselytes were only allowed to practice their religion if they paid the Jewish tax, and after 135 were barred from Jerusalem except for the day of Tisha B'Av. the day of Tisha B'Av.

Around the year 390, during the Byzantine period, the imperial province of Syria Palaestina was reorganized into Palaestina Prima, Palaestina Secunda and Palaestina Salutaris. Following the Muslim conquest, place names that were in use by the Byzantine administration generally continued to be used in Arabic. The use of the name "Palestine" became common in Early Modern English, was used in English and Arabic during the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem. In the 20th century the name was used by the British to refer to "Mandatory Palestine," a territory from the former Ottoman Empire which had been divided in the Sykes–Picot Agreement and secured by Britain via the Mandate for Palestine obtained from the League of Nations. Starting from 2013, the term was officially used in the eponymous "State of Palestine." Both incorporated geographic regions from the land commonly known as Palestine, into a new state whose territory was named Palestine.

And the funniest thing was the Roman Empire choose the name of Isrealis worst enemy.

Philistines were Israeli biggest enemy during the formative year of Israel and Ancient Greeks call Philistines, Palestinaes which is anglicized as Palestine, the name the region is known today.

The funniest things again is these Philistines were destroyed by the Assyrian Empire more than 600 years before the Romans conquered Jerusalem and renamed Eretz Israel, Palestine.

Gaza is abroginal Philistine city and today Palestinians control the city and Israel shouldn't encroach.

Ashkelon and Ashdod are both Philistian cities which Israel annexed and I don't see them returning the cities.

But Jerusalem has never been a Palestinian terrority. Instead of the Arab fighting to reclaim Ashkelon and Ashdod, they are busy fighting for a no-go area.

compton11:
who need Christian's sympathy anyway?

Your terrorists brothers have been begging on Alj Jazeera English Facebook page.

The only two Igbo moslems I have ever met are in Lagos. The first one, Ifeanyi got converted while mingling with some Yoruba miscreants and changed his name to Ibrahim.

Dude family disowned him but because he is the first son and we don't allow our first sons to waste away in foreign lands, the family caught him one day and drag him down to the East to re-orient him.

The second one (named withheld) was born in Katsinam got converted and changes his name to Musa. The family sent him to deliver something to the East and family seized him and send him to Lagos to leave with uncle with strict instruction he shouldn't be allowed near mosques.

Today, Musa has ditched that name for his God-given Igbo name and his brain reset to default.

We don't need terrorists in the East biko. Our sophisticated brothers are suffering it in the West.

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So so I have been reading for the past 3 years yet thousands of monikers are already resting in pieces..

Blackhole dey here gidigba[/quote][/s]
Don't make me notice you

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helinues:


That's only if banning would allow you guys.. As you can see, mods have probably shekinini to the canceller's moniker.

You all would be fixed... I can assure you that

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Noise maker

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helinues:


It's possible mods have fixed that moniker, he would soon show up with another one... That's what idleness and boredom can cause

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