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Be rest assured, Wenger will be sacked in May

Probably, he heard in church "hide your sins in the Holy book" and he took it literally.

Shawnnn01:
Say no to Buhari n vote Atiku ba ? At times I wonder if foolishness runs in the blood of all you Igbos.

Why do you have to be stupid in bringing Igbos into this? At your age, you can do better.
If you have read through my comment, you should have noticed that I did not endorse any candidate or party.

Apparently, come 2019, he has to go back to Daura or do the needful as Zuma did. This has to be his end game. Say no to bigotry, poor governance and incompetent leaders. Endeavor to get your PVC ready. Remember, INEC count votes not prayer points

Good job but customs are still corrupt. Could be that the smuggler could not settle them properly

APC can do whatever the like, OBJ is not a saint we know, but Buhari has to vacate power come 2019.

They sheeples will not agree. Infact, OP, they are coming for you

oviecardealer:
KEEP ALL CALLS COMING IN FOR ENQUIRIES.

How about lexus ES 350 2008 to Lagos.

cstr1001:
Thousands will gather to get a glimpse of Buhari even in anambra.

It dosen't mean they will vote for him.

You said it all.

sarrki:
Fayose is grand patron of ipobs home and diaspora

At your age, you can do better na. You are no longer a kid.

Jesusloveyou:
That is good.

And idiotic pigs of Biafra will not be happy for good news

You should learn to stay in silence when you have nothing to say. At your age, you should be doing better than this.

oviecardealer:
KEEP ALL CALLS COMING IN FOR PURCHASE AND ENQUIRIES VIA 08033557246.

I will want to find out the price for grade A toyota corolla 2009 and 2011

LionDeLeo:
I trust, na dem, the developers. They travel to all places. Whenever you hear of crime, there are 98%chances that it is them.

learn to stay in silence when you have nothing to say.

Adminisher:
The fact that having a Father who is Hausa and a Mother who is IBO is a CRIME to you guys is the reason your tribe will never produce a President in Nigeria

Please mark these words. You have cursed yourselves with those words. Progress is impossible for your people for entertaining these satanic attitude in 2017.

There is ZERO hope. ZERO happiness and fulfilment with this self fulfilling prophecy on your people.

Hausa Dad and Ibo man is a crime to you guys?.
You are DEAD already , only you don't know it. No wonder you fail at everything.

So you guys chose your parents?. You told God you wanted to black, African and Nigerian?. What choice does any of us have in circumstances of birth?. Is it not God?.

You guys are FINISHED!!!. We now know the problem of Nigeria and who will always get the rough end of the stick.

You need to train yourself to be comfortable with silence when you have nothing to say.

Is a believer suppose to suffer from the devourers such as fuel scarcity and owed salaries especially as tithes are paid regularly?

exlinklodge:
Social crusader and son late High Court Judge, Charles Oputa, popularly known as Charly boy, on Wednesday described pastors and politicians, who own private jets as “bastards.”

The veteran entertainer and convener of OurMumuDonDo made the remark while frowning at the sorry state of Nigeria Airways. In a post via his Twitter handle, he shared some photographs juxtaposing other countries national carriers with the dead Nigerian Airways.

He wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bco4YWplzeB/?hl=en

Nigeria Airways Ltd was founded in 1958 after the dissolution of West African Airways Corporation (WAAC). It held the name WAAC Nigeria until 1971, when it was rebranded to the name it had until it ceased operations in 2003.


more @ http://www.exlinklodge.com/2017/12/any-politicians-or-pastor-that-has.html

Funny enough, most of these people who defend their pastors on empty stomach to death are mostly the tribal warlords and bigots who litter nairaland with their skewed , myopic and nepotic views on issues. One begin to wonder what is the essence of this tithing when you can't leave a righteous life.

Say no to a daura d.ullard
Say no to a lying information minister.
Say no to a promise and fail party.

CHANGE THE CHANGE

Come 2019, we will Atikulate

kingthreat:
I dont have a problem with Daddy Freeze. But looking deep at him, it's obvious he is envious of those pastors. If he is going to preach against Men of God, then he should do better than the men of God.
How many Needy people has he helped
How many charities has he invested in
When has he ever evangelized.
Does he put Jesus first in his conversations?
Why is he unready to forgive reconcile with his wife.

Please if he cannot uphold one Christian tenet, then he should please shut up.

Is that all you bring to the table, personal attacks? The man has backed his claims with scriptural quotations rather than come up with a superior argument, here you with personal jabs that signifies an all time low for tithers

Pastopreneurs and their clients won't like this. Here is the thing why is it that the poor ones who pay tithes are not rich despite paying their 10% regularly?

Nice couple, but thought she is much darker in the set of clinic matters than in these hervtrad pix

Dottune:
It is exactly the same with "The Unity List" that was posted here yesterday on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/4224288/allegations-manipulation-pdp-convention-unity, long before the elections were over. No difference at all.

If only APshit and President Buhari had a unity list for all their political appointments, they won't have half of the problem they have now.

Say no to a dullard as president.
Say no to lying information minister.
Say no to a promise and fail party.

Welcome to the reborn PDP.
CHANGE THE CHANGE

The press release was silent on Otunba Gbenga Daniels or was he not part of the meeting?

Watching in 3D

Alariiwo:
To show Atiku and his supporters that Kano is sealed for Buhari..

Biafrans most especially are in for a rude shock. No refelendum, no biafra, no Atiku presidency which will also mean no Igbo presidency in 2023 cos they won't get presidency ticket or even VP in APC once they vote massively for PDP in 2019.

Political wilderness loading. kilkikiki

How old did you say you are?

Will this stop people from paying tithe this Sunday or will it make Buhari fire and prosecute Malami ?

topedopechef:
Phool...
The spirit of God is all knowing, makin my forefathers known to him......

Very Christlike of you.

9jvirgin:
If the Law for Tithes were 90% of what you earn monthly, will you pay?

Park well

petra1:
Daddy freez has no point . He played on the intelligence of those who don't know their bible .

Tithe is given to God . For the welfare of workers and ministers

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord.

You can see from the verse above that this has nothing to do with eating or drinking or giving the poor . It is exclusively for the use in Gods house.

But God also ask the people to use another 10% for the poor every 3 years and another 10% for feast and . Now Daddy freeze omitted this verse of the exclusive one for God and manipulated the scripture as though tithe is for the poor

How convenient it is for you to quote the old testament out of context to suit your claims.
It may interest you to know that there are so many laws in the old testament that are obsolete today E.g Deut 22:5, Lev 11. The Good Lord even countered Lev 11 in Mathew 15:10.
Did Jesus or any of the early apostles pay tithes? If No, as the pro-tithers put it, was Jesus and the early disciples also robbing God too?
The focus was on helping the poor, widows and vulnerable in the society. Mathew 25: 35 - 40 and 1 Timothy 5 : 3 - 16
If Christ died for us and washed away our sins and cleared our debts, how come there is no need for burnt offerings, no need to visit Jerusalem for the annual Passover feast but we are allowed to tithe? Just thinking aloud

javakind:
First of all Jesus himself Declared I have not come to abolish this law but to fulfil it. Again When somebody came to ask Jesus whether it was Lawful to pay Tax,? Jesus replied them by asking them to first bring the Coin they had in their time, and finally Declared Pay what belong to Cesar to Cesar and Pay what Belong to God to God.Tithe in the Circular is the Tax we pay to Govt.Why are you not Disputing that?

Again back then the Isrealite were Farmers and hence theirs were Yearly.Now in our Time. We earn Monthly Salaries, Hence Monthly Tithe.

This is false doctrine, you are twisting the scriptures to suit your reasoning. Jesus only paid tax. He never paid tithe and neither did the early appostles. The emphasis was to help the poor, the widows and less privileged in the society.
Talking about abolishing laws, why are we not following the all the laws of Moses . In fact the Pharisees were not happy Jesus did not wash his hands before eating which was their custom but Jesus enlightened them its not what makes a man eats that makes him unclean rather its what that comes out of him.
Stop twisting the bible to suit your criminal actions. Stop fleecing the poor, desperate and gullible in our society. Take advahtage of this Freeze saga to repent. It may be your truly last chance.

Did Jesus collect tithe? Did the Apostles collect tithe? So why is daddy GO collecting tithe?

Even if we wanna go back under the law...
Under the law, tithes were paid yearly. Under the law, in the first year, you eat your tithe, same thing in the second year, eat your tithe in the 3rd year, your tithe should be used to feed widows, orphans and strangers...

But we are not under the law...Jesus has fulfilled the law.

Anybody who pays tithe is a goat!

isnovic:
Tithing is scriptural:

1. The first tithe (Gen. 14:19–20)


And he blessed him and said,
“Blessed be Abram by God Most High,
Possessor of heaven and earth;
and blessed be God Most High,
who has delivered your enemies into your hand!”
And Abram gave him a tenth of everythiAbram had just returned from defeating the armies of the four kings, rescuing his nephew Lot, and reclaiming his possessions, and he’s met by an enigmatic priest of God Most High named Melchizedek. The priest attributes Abram’s victory to God—possessor of heaven and earth—and he blesses Abram.ng.



In gratitude to God’s authority and blessing, Abram gives Melchizedek a tenth of his possessions. He doesn’t do it to invoke God’s blessing; he does it in response to God’s blessing.

2. Jacob offers a tithe (Gen. 28:20–22)


Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat and clothing to wear, so that I come again to my father’s house in peace, then the Lord shall be my God, and this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, shall be God’s house. And of all that you give me I will give a full tenth to you.”

Jacob responds to a dream he has received from God by building an altar and vowing that, in exchange for God’s care and provision, he would give God a tenth of his belongings.


3. The tithe is introduced as law (Lev. 27:30–34)


Every tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the trees, is the Lord’s; it is holy to the Lord. If a man wishes to redeem some of his tithe, he shall add a fifth to it. And every tithe of herds and flocks, every tenth animal of all that pass under the herdsman’s staff, shall be holy to the Lord. One shall not differentiate between good or bad, neither shall he make a substitute for it; and if he does substitute for it, then both it and the substitute shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.”

Here we see Moses giving the tithe as a law. The first 10 percent is called “holy,” or set apart, as belonging to God. The Israelites were to return to God what was already his, and in doing so, recognize the Almighty’s provision.

If for some reason someone needed to “redeem” or keep all or a portion of the goods he was to tithe, he could just give money instead. However, the cash would need to be equal to the tithe’s value, plus an extra fifth. In other words, Israelites could give 10 percent in produce, or 12 percent in cash.

When it came to livestock, a shepherd had to set aside every tenth for God. It was decided by simply counting the animals and consecrating every tenth. The shepherd was not to be deciding based on the quality of the animal.

4. Tithes established for the Levites (Num. 18:21)


To the Levites I have given every tithe in Israel for an inheritance, in return for their service that they do, their service in the tent of meeting

The Levites served a special function in Israel; they ministered before God as Israel’s priests. At God’s command, the Levites didn’t share in the other tribes’ inheritance. The Lord was their portion and inheritance (v. 21).

Here we see the Lord establishing that Israel’s tithe would operate as payment to the levitical priests for their services.

5. The Levite’s tithe (Num. 18:26)


Moreover, you shall speak and say to the Levites, “When you take from the people of Israel the tithe that I have given you from them for your inheritance, then you shall present a contribution from it to the Lord, a tithe of the tithe.”

From the income that the Levites received from the tithe, they were still responsible for giving 10 percent off the top to God.

6. Offerings and tithes (Deut. 12:5–6)


But you shall seek the place that the Lord your God will choose out of all your tribes to put his name and make his habitation there. There you shall go, and there you shall bring your burnt offerings and your sacrifices, your tithes and the contribution that you present, your vow offerings, your freewill offerings, and the firstborn of your herd and of your flock.

The tithe was not a volitional offering. The 10 percent off the top belonged to God and the Israelites simply repaid it. But this wasn’t the only obligatory tithe. They also tithed to support a special jubilee festival (Deut. 12) and took a third tithe every three years to take care of orphans, widows, and the poor (Deut. 14). These mandatory offerings averaged out to about 23 percent a year.

On top of these compulsory tithes, there were regular opportunities for freewill offerings. These were generous gifts that expressed the Israelites’ gratefulness through voluntary giving in response to their devotion.

At a bare minimum, they gave 23 percent a year, but there was no ceiling on their generosity. They could—and frequently would—give exorbitantly out of their excess. In response to Moses’ call for contributions to the building of the Tabernacle, the Israelites literally gave so much that Moses had to command them to stop giving (Ex. 36:2–7).

7. Tithing for festivals (Deut. 14:22)


“You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always.”

By God’s design, the Israelites were a celebratory people. Part of their tithe went to preparing for festivals and celebrations!

8. Tithing for orphans, widows, and sojourners (Deut. 14:28–29)


At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do.

The first tithe taken annually was used to support the Levites. Every third year a special tithe was taken for the distinct purpose of supporting orphans, widows, and strangers. Baked into God’s law was a special provision to take care of the most vulnerable citizens. Interestingly enough, this included caring for people from outside of their community.

How Israelites tithed

9. Bringing in the tithe (2 Chron. 31:4–5)


And he commanded the people who lived in Jerusalem to give the portion due to the priests and the Levites, that they might give themselves to the Law of the Lord. As soon as the command was spread abroad, the people of Israel gave in abundance the firstfruits of grain, wine, oil, honey, and of all the produce of the field. And they brought in abundantly the tithe of everything.

Because we trade almost exclusively in currency, it’s fascinating to consider what it would be like in a largely cashless society. How do you tithe when tithing means setting aside 10 percent of your grain, wine, oil, honey, and produce?

Bringing in your tithe is quite an affair when you realize that it entails exacting division of actual goods and livestock, and then the responsibility of bringing them to the storehouse.

10. Nehemiah reestablishes the tithe (Neh. 10:35–37)


We obligate ourselves to bring the firstfruits of our ground and the firstfruits of all fruit of every tree, year by year, to the house of the Lord; also to bring to the house of our God, to the priests who minister in the house of our God, the firstborn of our sons and of our cattle, as it is written in the Law, and the firstborn of our herds and of our flocks; and to bring the first of our dough, and our contributions, the fruit of every tree, the wine and the oil, to the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and to bring to the Levites the tithes from our ground, for it is the Levites who collect the tithes in all our towns where we labor.

Nehemiah is known for rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem as part of God’s plan to restore Israel after a 70-year captivity. Preparing God’s people for temple worship in their homeland required a reorientation to the worship rhythms in the life of an Israelite.

At this point, many Israelites had lived their entire lives in captivity. And while the stories and traditions were kept alive verbally, they no longer knew what it was like to live under the law. Here we have the reestablishment of the Law in regards to offerings and tithes.

Even with this preparation, Nehemiah finds that the Levites aren’t receiving the portion of the tithes that are to be sustaining them (Neh. 13:10).

11. The principles of plenty (Prov. 3:9–10)


Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the firstfruits of all your produce; then your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will be bursting with wine.

If the world and everything in it truly belong to the Lord, why wouldn’t this principle be true? This isn’t the only time that the Lord promises Israel that he’ll reward generosity with plenty (Deut. 15:10; Prov. 11:25; Malachi 3:8–12).

The challenge is that one must have the faith to give sacrificially to see if the Lord keeps his word.

12. THE LORD REQUIRES MORE THAN REGULAR TITHES (AMOS 4:4–5)

“Come to Bethel, and transgress; to Gilgal, and multiply transgression; bring your sacrifices every morning, your tithes every three days; offer a sacrifice of thanksgiving of that which is leavened, and proclaim freewill offerings, publish them; for so you love to do, O people of Israel!” declares the Lord God.

The Lord is angry at Israel, and Amos has come to proclaim God’s judgment against her. It doesn’t matter if the nation of Israel is dependable and exacting in the giving of their tithes and offerings if their behavior negates God’s laws.

In a passage that is thematically echoed by Jesus in Matt. 23:23, God makes it clear that stringent attention to the law in one area isn’t an excuse for license in others.

13. THE ROBBING OF GOD (MAL. 3:8–9)

Will man rob God? Yet you are robbing me. But you say, “How have we robbed you?” In your tithes and contributions. You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing me, the whole nation of you.

Throughout the Old Testament, an offering was something you gave, but the tithe was something you owed. It belonged to the Lord and it was repaid—it wasn’t a gift. On top of the importance of recognizing God’s sovereignty in the tithe, the whole priestly system relied on the tithe to stay functional.

Of particular interest here is the how the withholding of some in Israel put the whole nation at risk of God’s judgment.

14. TESTING GOD IN THE TITHE (MAL. 3:10–12)

Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. And thereby put me to the test, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour down for you a blessing until there is no more need. I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of your soil, and your vine in the field shall not fail to bear, says the Lord of hosts. Then all nations will call you blessed, for you will be a land of delight, says the Lord of hosts.

In his mercy, God desperately wants to use the carrot rather than the stick. If he can, he’ll try to get his people to respond to promises of blessing for their obedience instead of having to bring the hammer of judgement down.

In verse 10, the Lord reiterates the problem; the storehouses are empty. If they would only be compliant, there would not only be a full larder, but they would experience an overabundance of provision and freedom from want. Their abundance would also be proof that God was in Israel, making them the envy of nations.

15. DON’T NEGLECT THE WEIGHTIER ISSUES (MATT. 23:23)

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.

The picture here of the religious person carefully measuring out their spices to ensure that their tithe is exact while ignoring justice and mercy is powerful. To show concern for tithing your smallest crops while ignoring the law’s weightier concerns is shortsighted.

16. THE FAITHFUL GIVER (MARK 12:41–44)

And he sat down opposite the treasury and watched the people putting money into the offering box. Many rich people put in large sums. And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which make a penny. And he called his disciples to him and said to them, “Truly, I say to you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the offering box. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.”

Obviously, the point of this passage is in the faith of the widow to give what she had out of poverty. This is a beautiful picture of trust in God’s provision, and Christ’s response to this act of faith demonstrates God’s feelings toward our sacrifice and generosity.

What is also interesting here is the fact that Jesus went out of his way to sit and watch people give their offerings. God’s interest in our giving isn’t cursory. He recognizes more than we do how our faith is revealed in our habits of giving.

17. TITHING AND PRIDE (LUKE 18:9–14)

He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

The Pharisee in this parable finds his value and justification in his devotional acts. He holds up his fasting and tithes up to God like a badge and thanks God that he isn’t like this lowly tax gatherer. As we have seen, the tithe tied Israel together. It was an offering that was common to all and was used to take care of the nation’s priests, widows, orphans, and transients. It wasn’t intended to make the giver self-righteous and prideful.
18. TITHING TO MELCHIZEDEK (HEB. 7:1–2)

For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, and to him Abraham apportioned a tenth part of everything. He is first, by translation of his name, king of righteousness, and then he is also king of Salem, that is, king of peace.

With this discussion on Abraham’s tithe to Melchizedek, we’ve come full circle. Moses first tells us of this tithe in Genesis, and the author of Hebrews readdresses it as he compares Christ’s ministry to the priest Melchizedek.

The author of Hebrews argues that, although the tithe was supposed to be paid to the Levites, Abraham gave a tenth of his spoils to the priest Melchizedek. And that, through this act, the Levites also metaphorically tithed to Melchizedek. Not only did the priest take a tithe from Abraham, he blessed him. Hebrew’s author says, “It is beyond dispute that the inferior is blessed by the superior. (v. 7)” The whole chapter compares the priesthood of Christ to this mysterious Old Testament character.

It’s only appropriate that the last place the tithe is mentioned it’s being used to point to Christ’s preeminence.



Though @daddyfreeze is correct regarding tithe abuse in Nigerian churches, nonetheless tithe is a kingdom principle established in the order of MELCHIZEDEK and an infallible Law of Nature.

Give and you will receive.
Lay your bread on the waters and in the morrow you will find it
Whatever you sow you must reap.

Credit to my team at echurch.

The funniest thing I have read this year.
so I am just thinking, if Jesus died and washed away our sins and cleared our debts, so how come we no longer offer burnt sacrifices or go to jersuSalem for the annual Passover feast but we are allowed to tithe?