robonski15:
[b]Hello everyone, i just read about the experience some individuals encountered while using the Gelatin feed, If you rightly used a feed with all best management in place from good seed, water management, good stocking density etc and the result was poor desist from using the feed. i have in some occasion used some feed that was poor and i backed out its as simple as that. The motive behind the creation of the gelatin feed is to reduce the overall cost of feeding to maximize profit of which we firstly produced the powdered form, we moved on to the pellet which we had some issues with the bonding now we have rectified that with the new magnet floating feed, and we will keep on improving on the feed and bagging which is on its way.

Someone said its cp is 14.9 of which only blood meal alone is higher than that. Talking of scamming i have transacted business with lots of individuals over the past years majority from nairaland worth millions of naira some i have never seen before they only had faith in me and no one has ever come up and said robonski is a scam. I rather put my energy on more positive/productive things than to produce a feed that wont live up to its expectation, As i type the feed is on Nafdac desk for review. Details will be out very shortly.The feed has a customers forum if a user have any issue with the feed.[/b]

N.B I am fully aware that there are some individuals working against Me in particular its not even about the feed.. only GOD knows their motive. Well this is not the first time i have encountered such. We will come out victorious.

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Robinski finally u responded. I guess its about time. U said blood meal alone is more Dan 14.9%? , but at what percentage per 100kg is it advised?. I wasn't show if u are still with soft or not, that why I have to give u the benefit of the doubt. But I don't think there is need for reservations anymore. House, my allegation will be backed by proofs as I will attach documents of my findings to prove that not all that glitters are gold. Funny

excelsiorfarm:
na wa ooh, i hope all this issues is not beyond all what we are reading here sir

I thought u said am here to blackmail gelatin,? My friend u can now see the proof u refused to see. Am waiting for Robinski becos he is somebody I look up to and personally contacted before establishing my farm. I wonder why he went to work for somebody that is not straight forward. God will surely reward those that are making life difficult for honest farmers like me.

[quote author=excelsiorfarm post=45091167] it is obvious now that you did business with gelatin feed manufacturers/distributor,which happen to be the debated feed in question. you said they did great before,but the 1 tonne wasnt palatable for the fishes. question will be, why was the first one accepted and the second rejected? is it the makers or the distributors intent or fault? lets leave that for others to analyse. Thank God you were paid on promptly. About the cp that was evaluated not accurate, reality is the older in age the less cp needed by your catfish for growth. so, there is no need to state what ever you know your feed does not possess. My brother, great you opened up on the issue at hand.

Robonski i believe many would be expecting your input in respect of this crucial issues that means a lot.

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I have kept quiet for long about your insinuations and now I know why they say patience is a virtue reserved for the wise. Thank God I waited for u to unravel your stomach before telling everyone the truth. I warned everyone to check with the quality of the local feed they buy I subsequently mentioned the feed I used which I is gelatin feed of which our professor soft claimed that it contain 60% crude protein I have prooof that its a scaam. Instead of u to tell me to submit the test I did or bring the 2 bags left that soft refused to refund me, all u could deduce from the whole matter is its not the producers fault. Am afraid u leave me no choice but to assume u are defending your allies and friends. But let me spell it out to you that any business that is set on defrauding people of their had earned money will not last. I assure u now that soft does not have more customers like when he first started and that is only becos he put profit first before quality. We are not talking about a particular batch that is faulty, but almost everyone that used gelatin and harvested their fish feel they have been scammed. Mind u, a clear conscience fears no accusation. Tell soft and if robinski is part of this, I won't be the only one who will be disappointed .this is the world wide web (internet). I wonder how long they think they can get away with this. I rest my case. Good luck everyone. What goes around comes around. Nothing good can come out of blood money my friend

[quote author=chilanfarms post=45086959]Nigeria is in the state it is because of our mind set. #OccupyNationalAssemble is on going to drive home some point to our leaders. We are here discussing in parables issue that hav cost some farmers a fortune, Stonedigital don't mince words with any1 on this issue again pls. [/quote

I rest my case.

Jesusbaby6:
There is more to this than meets the eye. What if the workers are to blame?

Am not trying to blame anyone. Just do your background check before buying any feed, mostly the local feed and ask if they offer money back guarantee if u are not satisfied with the feed.

walexy001:
i wonder why some people just go online and publish what they are not sure of im using this same feed for some time and in fact i see alot of changes and guess what i just got my new order of the new reformed sinking pellet yesterday and infact im happy i did ok so pls let tolerate our self even in the midst of personal egos ok ONE LOVE

Pls name the feed so others can testify its efficacy

Am not talking about any other feed other than the self acclaimed GELATIN FEED. The producers and their cohorts claimed the crude protein is 60% and I bought 300kg as my first order from a distributor at ikutun and even posted a video of my fishes accepting it. But to my surprise, after ordering 1 tonne, for 150k they sent me what my fishes could not even swallow. I called the guy and he told me to return it of which I did and I collected my money from him. After some days I went to agege to mill my own feed and to my greatest disappointment, I saw the feed in question. It was there the guys working at the milling house told me that the owner of gelatin feed is only using just PKC , maize flower, blood meal and wheat offal to produce his feed. I was not surprised but I had to be sure of it cp protein and I took the feed to animal care at Agege where I paid 5k for testing it. D result was 14.9% cp. So where in the world did they get their 60% cup without fish meal, no soya, no gnc.

Pls, do the right thing and ensure any feed be it local or foreign is tested before buying in bulk. A word is enough for the wise.

[quote author=Businesstools post=45065320]Please house,

I am a first timer in fish farming. I have been making use of Coppens. And so far, my fish have been doing great. I bought some local feeds on this thread (Name withheld), but I'm scared of administering it to my fish. I don't want to tell stories that touch. The neutral persons (4 of them in number) that have used this same feed told me emphatically that they did not observe any impact on their fish as claimed by the producers, marketers and promoters of the said feed.


The distributors and those advertising the feed are all partners in crime. The honest distributors among them are just praying to sell their remain junk called 60% feed and withdraw from it. The oldest and most reliable form of advertising is referral. Let those that have used the feed speak up and educate d house about their findings. Pls rise to the occasion n speak up if u have conscience.

Hebraham:
dislike hypocrisy and let's get the fact right (1) fishmeal remain the most essential ingredient why (2).blood meal remain the highest ingredient in crew protein. (3) other animal with high crew protein such hydrolys feather meal that are major animal protein meal that are common in our environment 4) unfortunately the inclusion of blood meal in feed production is not allow in so many country as a result of the problem of mad disease were, it is allowed 13.4 percent inclusion as been scientifically recommended in the production of feed also, catfish can only utilise about 65% and its inclusion in feed production should not exceed 20% in feed production.
with these statement of fact quality feed can only be achieve with some percentage of fish meal. and for one to achieve 50% C.P at least 25% fish meal will be required in feed production. With these my submission 60% C.P cannot be achieved with #220.

Well said. Pls try and read thru my postings again and u will see the formula i said they are using. Just PKC, blood meal, maize flower and wheat offal. They don't add any fish meal or gnc or soya, yet they claim the feed is 60cp. I pity for those gullible minds who will not listen to my cry and I won't keep quite becos I believe in the truth. The cost of the feed is not even up to hundred naira and they are selling it for #220

fzero:
sometimes i seem not to understand some folks, if u try out a feed without result stop using it and get the feed that better suit u.
Truth be told how many of us has taken it upon ourselves to test the so called foreign feed?Not at all because it is branded foreign. Excel said because a feed is cheap doesn't make it bad which i totally agree. Right from time immemorial fish farmers have been loosing their hard earned cash with the same imported feed like wise me. I remember i lost more than half of my stock using top feed who did i run to with all their CP i achieved nothing. From experience farmers tend to blame their shortcomings on a new feed most especially when it is cheap.

Hello friend, I feel ur plight, and believe it or not am only trying to warn innocent farmers that buy feeds(especially the local) about the composition of the feed they are buying and giving to their fish. I went to Agege and was surprise that a member of this forum is only using PKC, maize flower, blood meal and wheat offal to produce a feed that they sell to innocent souls. I mean, can u buy such combination for 220per kg and give to your fish?. If not, the least I would ve expected from u is to encourage young farmers to do the right thing and ensure whatever feed they are to use should be tested to avoid losses

Hello house, I have catfish for sale:
The 1.5kg is 550per kg:
1kg is 530per kg
500g is 450 per Kg.
250g is 430per kg

Ttalk:


You give specification of what you want. Mine was 7.5 diesel engine a nd it drives both grinding and pelleting unit. It cost 150k but the price will increase if u are using higher engine like 9.5, 11 00, 11 10, 11 15 etc

@Talk, please I would like to chart with u privately. Kindly drop your number so that I can call u

excelsiorfarm:
@stonedigital, i noticed u earlier on this thread, what happened? if u cant say sir, then hold your peace. God bless

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Hello house, am not here to dent anybody's image or business. All am trying to say is please and please, try and check what ever anybody is trying to sell to u on this forum or any Wattsup group to avoid waste of ur hard earned money. Like I said earlier, if its feed u are buying, buy little and take it to a lab for test to know the composition of the feed. Especially those that are selling local feed on this forum. Most of dem, mark my words, most of them just lie to about the protein content and sell u rubbish and at d end of the day, opt out of fish business, saying it doesn't pay. Pls we should do the needful and stop being lazy cos fish farming is not a lazy man's business.

[quote author=excelsiorfarm post=45012748] brother it interest me to know what went down. pardon be, but I like to know what happen and I also believe some would appreciate it too. Maybe it was an oversight or whatever, lets know. I also encourage that feeds be tested when in doubt. [/quote
I will come out clean by tomorrow. Am not afraid of anybody so long am clean, what ever they do won't affect me spiritually won't affect me in Jesus name

Anybody that refuse a visit to his o her farm is a graud star becos it won't cost the farm a dime unless they have something to hide. Anybody that refused to show u their factory and they want to sell u feed will only send u rubbish and give a million reasons why your fish did not grow. Who ever is buying ready made local feed should buy little and test it for quality at animal care for authenticity. U have all been warned. We have criminals among us who only care about their pocket, not caring about who get burned.
And finally, d great minds we once had have sold their conscience becos of peanut they are paying them. What a shame

eugymuna:
Please where is your location,

I also have 300pcs of 1.5kg fish @600per kg

eugymuna:
Please where is your location,

I also have 300pcs of 1.5kg dish @600per kg

eugymuna:
Please where is your location,

Am in Lagos, badagry

lawstenie:
Hello everyone, am a newbie in fish farming and i have learnt a lot from this thread. A very big thnks to all the selfless coaches in the house. may God reward you for all that you are doing here. (1) I stocked 700 fingerlings recently and they are doing well. Please how do i know the runts among them? (2) I am using white plastic tank of 1200 litres for now, how many of it can contain the 700 fingerlings to table size stage?

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Hello sir, welcome to d house. About your 700 fingerling, ur tank is too small to raise that amount of catfish. The maximum u can rear to table size on 1200 litres tank is 100. To rear 500 fish to table size, u need a 12*12*4 pond. For new farmers like u I will even advice u put just stock 300 pieces on a 12*12*4 feet pond to avoid loss. Pls try and invest little and and increase ur stock as time goes on. Fish farming is not a child's play cos u need serious cash and experience to be successful in it. Fish farming is another school entirely, so try and start from d cradle(start from kindergarten and primary school) before talking of profit. If u can recover all ur recurrent expenses after selling ur fish, it simply means u will be successful in it on your next batch of stocking. Please try and visit a well established farm and learn from them and make sure u pay the owner so that the seriousness will be there. Just my 2 cents

Hello house, for those in need of Tarpolin to build their p. d f. grow out fish should contact me for a quality Tarpolin with ten years lifespan guaranty.
Benefit of Tarpolin include:
1: less expensive compared to conrete or earth pond
2: Tarpolin pond is mobile. All u need to do is use bolt
and nail to construct it, and u can just dismantle it and transport to your new location.
3. U can fix any leakage within minutes with transfering
Your fish to another pond.
4. U can have a water level of 4feet for faster growth of
Fish.
5. U can sort your fish as easy as possible without stressing your fish.
6. Size of d tarpolin is 46×16 feet and the prize and can be used to construct 36×6×4feet pond.
7. And your pond can be ready within 2 days maximum.
Please call if interested or visit my farm for a practical knowledge on how to build your tarpolin pond.
Call: 08025296420

eugymuna:

good morning house, please
I need 500 to 3000 pieces of 1kg fish ASAP, please contact me , give me ur price and location. U can whatsapp me 07056687701

I have 800kg and will be selling on d 28 of this month.
I also have 1500 kg of milange.
Price for grow out= 530per kg
Milange 2 for 1 kilo= 450 per kg
Millange 4 for 1 kilo= 430 per kg

Businesstools:
Please house, where can I get cupeid (Local fish meal) to buy at low price? Thanks

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What quantity (kg) do u need?
Its 600per kg.
It comes as dried fish so u will grind it yourself. Don't buy d ready made one cos dey have mixed it with other material( avoid fake fishmeal by grinding itself)
08025296420. Call if u re intersted

I know u ve seen a lot of failed associations with their empty promises, all for the personal interest of those who created the so called association. But I think u should give robinski and soft77 a chance., after all ur farm has been running with or without their help and it will continue running with or without anybody's help. Try and give a benefit if the doubt please

[quote author=Unionised post=41264569]

Don't take it personal.

My talk is directed at the BRAINS BEHIND THE IDEA.

DO YOUR HOMEWORK WELL.

The VISON needs modification.

Don't build castles in the air.

Simple.
Why not give a benefit of the doubt. Must u b left that blunt as a knife? At least u should try n see a light in daylight pls

Sir I don't understand your phone number. Why does it start with oo33? I tried calling or adding u. On watsapp but the number is not recognised. Pls I need to speak with u. Kindly provide a local number like mine e.g 08025296420

Please what is your phone no so that I can call u at a convenient time of yours.the whatsapp no u usually give on this thread is not a phone no so I can access it on my whatapp.pls I need your phonehh

Sir soft777, my fingerlings are just 3 weeks old and they are about 40000 pieces and I just poured them on my15*15 feet earth pond.before month end, they post fingerings so that I can stock just 5000pieces. Please I plan to use recirculatery system on the two Tarpolin pond with size 6*36 feet and 4 feet depth.I have just three big tanks for the recyclatery system but I don't know where to buy the remaking component like bio filter, UV system, aerator, and so on. Please can I come and visit your farm to get a first hand info on how to set my own recirculatory system or u can refer me to an expert for a fee.

Hello sir my able oga soft777, just aquaired 4 plots of land for fish farming at badagry and I have constructed some earthpond and some woodpond.the sizes of the earth pond is 30*60 and I have 2 earthpond. While the Tarpolin pond is 6*36 feet and 4 feet depth and they also 2 in no. my question is can I pay for the construction of the aquaponics work because I need by December ending. Thanks

Hello house, I just got back from AB farms at Ijebu Ode and I'm rich with experience on how to build my earth pond. Believe me they mean business at Ijebu Ode because most of the pond I saw were filled with 2kg and above and I must confess that Mr. Ab1x is d real deal. Ijebu catfish farmers are the biggest in west Africa.
Am taking this moment to tell Mr. Ab1x that am his biggest fan from today and I pray that God should increase his yield a million fold.
For what its worth, it should be noted that Mr. Ab1x did not collect a dime from even when I insisted on paying for consultation fees. He ask me to come to his farm after a detailed discussion we had on the phone. I have no doubt about how lucrative catfish biz is anymore. I wish other experienced farmers in the house can assist aspiring fish farmers without misleading them for personal gains, and unemployment will be a thing of the past in Nigeria .thanks a million, Mr Ab1x

hello fellow catfish farmers, its good to see young minds of entrepreneurs coming together to share ideas. I want to say am really impressed by the way questions about catfish are answered by the professionals in the house.
I don't want 2 mention names because I believe we re all learners in the field. thanks to u all and may almighty God bless each n everyone of us as we invest in the business