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I see you chose the religious temple rather than the mental asylum, nice choice.

Lawag3:
I have expose you to the light go and sin no more.

Next time hide your ignorance

I hope you now understand that you don't belong in a rational conversation, but in a religious temple or a mental asylum, chose one.

Lawag3:
So you know Judaism? Jews then fell from the skies.


You can become Jewish by practicing the religion of Judaism. And you can also be born a Jew .

Here we go !
The "ancient Israelites".
A biblical people ! As I said, you confuse your religious beliefs with history.
You know nothing about judaism.

Lawag3:
If you're related to the ancient Israelites that makes you Jewish c'est simple Tu comprends ?

And we get to know whom is related to a biblical demigod people by DNA ? No, by where they currently are ? No, by ...their current religion ? Yes ! 🤣😅

Fools never know they are fools because a person who knows he is a fool would automatically elevate his thinking and no longer be a fool.

I love how the biggest fool always believes he is privy to some secret knowledge. Tell me what defines the "Jewish ethnicity" which you keep talking about.

I love how some people just confuse their religious beliefs with actual facts and education.

Lawag3:
The first mistake you made was saying being Jewish is not an ethnicity it's a religion.


You can't be christian Muslim because being a Christian I'd just a religion not an ethnicity.


But you can be Muslim, christian , pagan Hindu athiest and still be Jewish.


Please someone anyone should please educate this guy.


It seems like you're the only one that doesn't know this.

Again, the DNA test seems to not have entered your confused brain. Are Nigerian Muslims from Saudi Arabia ?
Are Nigerian Christians from Rome?

You are not a rational person, you mix religion and history like a person under the influence of cocaine.

Lawag3:
Yes they are they are British Nigerian Japanese Nigerian but they can be called Nigerians.


Is like saying African American are not from Africa

1. Did you see me write "Muslim Jew" ? I might as well write "Christian Muslim".
2. Your problem is that you know absolutely nothing about judaism. You seem to base all your thoughts on what you see in movies or read in the bible.
3. The problem which middle eastern guys face while talking to people like you is that you are a complete ignoramus in the topic and they are mostly more educated on this than you are.
4. Even a 3 year old kid can see that an Ethiopian Jew, a European Jew and an Arab Jew are not from the same ethnicity.
5. You like to argue on a thing of which you know nothing. Stop confusing your religion with actual history.

6. For your information the ethnicity you are looking for is called ...wait for it..."PALESTINIAN" ! Your confused head confuses palestinian ethnicity with Judaism faith. And guess what, most of the Palestinians have long converted to islam or Christianity.

Lawag3:
Being Jewish is both a religion and an ethnicity. In your former write up you talked about moslem Jews who were Jesus relative that was killed by the crusaders. That's bullshit.

Oh, mr "nexus connection that doesn't extend to the people" is leaving without explaining what his "nexus connection" actually is after repeating the "nexus connection" claim several times. How daft can you be ?

On this thread I shared proofs of what I claimed, but of course we can expect a yoruba to come and counter my already proven claim with the backing of his own mouth and that of other people and some fairytales but with no such thing as evidence.

aswani:
At this point, I think it's best to leave the stage for you. You jus dey catch cruise.

So, you just repeat your claim ? 🤣
How old are you ? It seems you are a teenager. You see, rather than repeating "nexus connection" again and again, if you had some sense, you would actually develop and explain what you mean.
I have explained to you how ridiculous your claim is. But you don't really understand my statement because you are not smart enough.
Again: while Ife was a village, Benin was an empire. How you could see a similarity or perhaps "nexus connection" between the emperor of Benin and the priest of Ife village is beyond me. Where exactly is that "nexus connection" ? Boy if you start talking about some fairytale like oduduwa 😤

aswani:
You find Nigerians not learning about things before commenting annoying, you that are saying E pa Egharevba is writing Yoruba centric stuff? Honestly I can't laugh. Log of wood, speck of dust.

Anyway, my point is, if you care to read and understand, there is clearly a nexus between Benin Royal family and Ilé Ifè. There "might" be a similar nexus between the palace at Isale Eko and Benin

The Benin Royal family connection to Ilé Ifẹ doesn't extend to the people, same as any potential Isale Eko palace connection to Benin certainty doesn't extend to the people .

Egheravba can look neutral only to a yoruba extremist who was fed on fairytales of how "Benin migrated from Ife and how Ife migrated from heaven" right from his birth.
You are not of a sufficient intellectual level to understand most of what I say. But let me repeat: egheravba did a poor work, his work was unsubstantiated and pro-yoruba. Actual historical research proves egheravba to be wrong. So to conclude with, egheravba did a yoruba-cebtruc propaganda.

aswani:
Now I know you are lumping two and two together and are getting twenty two.

E pa Egharevba can at no point be suggested to be writing Yoruba centric stuff, if anything, it is his words that provides a balance to the overtly Yoruba centric story that has been in play all this while.

Which similarity? You absolutely have no idea of what you are talking about. This is what I find annoying with Nigerians, you want to comment on things before learning the first thing about them, and you want to be taken seriously while you are making a fool of yourself.

aswani:
I only brought Ifẹ up due to the similarity of Royal family only nexus to another kingdom.

Egheravba was a storyteller, his work was a yoruba-cebtruc work which can not be qualified as historical research. Though his yoruba professor's and his yoruba university as a whole was very happy with his propaganda. You see, unlike you, I'm intellectually evolved enough to do the historical research rather than quoting someone whom I claim did the historical research. We just don't operate at the same level of intellect.

aswani:
E pa Egharevba's tome has been reposted here over and over again.

My friend, you don't get to make up ethnicities. Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity. You are just a confused person.
Since you still have difficulties to understand this, let me inform you that ashkenazis' ethnicity is an east-European one! Do you get that ?

Lawag3:
My guy you're very ignorant being Jewish is both a religion and an ethnicity it's the same as being Hindu.

You're the most ignorant person here.

Lawag3:
My guy read my other mention and cure your self from ignorance.

So your "Jews died on both sides" were all fighting on the same side ? 🤣🤣😅
Flip flopping to always be right, even when you're wrong.

Lawag3:
No the Jews that fought on the sides of the Muslims were not involved in the crusade.


You're ignorant.

One of the consequences of the ideology of zionists is that nobody can sell his house. Because if you sell your house, your great grand children get to claim that house as "where their great grand father used to live", so the great grand children of the guy who bought the house must vacate.
But in the case of Palestine, it is just complete foreigners with no historical links to the land whom are claiming their ancestors lived there 2000 years ago.

Let us assume that these Europeans of Jewish faith are somehow related to the ancestors of the Palestinians who lived in that land two thousand years ago.
What if a group of people whose ancestors lived there 30000 years ago show up, do they get to claim that land as well ?
If my great great grand father used to own your house which you bought, do I get to take your house from you ?
I guess, so long I am backed by an unsubstantiated fairytale of my ancestors living on your current land two thousand years ago even though my DNA shows me to be from a land very far away

Lawag3:
I give it to the Jews they are the only people ever to recover lands lost.

So your level of lack of education is so high that you even admit you learn from nairaland 🤣🤣 dude you are only being indoctrinated by your fellow yoruba supremacists. Ife was nothing but a village ruled by a priest until 1912 when the British started urbanising it. Notice how there is no indigenous house in Ife, even though the British didn't attack Ife. Benin city on the other hand was burnt to the ground by the British.

Benin kingdom was an empire and it's capital is called Benin city. Ife was a village ruled by a priest, in the colonial era, awolowo elevated the Oni of ife into a position which is not his traditional position. The Oni of ife is just a priest, the current Oni of ife's father is still alive by the way, that is an abomination for a "king", but 'ot for a priest.

aswani:
Same as in Benin where there is a link between the palace, and not the people, and the Ooni's palace in Ilé Ifè (which is well documented on Nairaland).

Yet an other case if selective blindness. Here is proof that Lagos was a part of Benin kingdom:

Stoplying:
Eyewitness writen precolonial text stating clearly that Lagos belongs to Benin:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5806879x.r=Y%C3%A9bou?rk=21459;2

Precolonial map of the region showing that Lagos (in its currents form) and its environs were part of Benin (see below)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2


Conclusion: Lagos and its environs were part of Benin.

I am not interested in debating things which have already been proven. Also I am not interested in talking to people whom have been harrassing me. (I also want to add that I am actually the only person whom has commented here who actually speaks french and that I am the person who posted the french caption and the book from which it is to nairaland. Some delusional people who don't speak a word of frecnh were trying to "debate" me on the translation of the text several months ago. Fools can only fool other fools.)

You are asking dumb and irrelevant questions. It is a well known fact that Lagos is a victim of over migration and I already stated this right here. At least read all which I have stated before asking questions which were already answered.

I love how you guys can just go a d start claiming other people's languages as being "yoruba dub language" but Benin kingdom is somehow not allowed to have sublanguages. For your information, all empires were multilingual except a very few modern ones which had a formal school system.

It is funny how you guys don't realise your indoctrination when you are claiming parts of Benin republic were in "yorubaland". Did you not notice the word "Benin" in Benin republic ? Why isn't it "oyo" republic or "Ife" republic or "Ibadan" republic or "yoruba" republic?
Your yorubaland is a work of fiction, as I already stated, "yoruba" is an other name for oyo and it is derived from "yarri.ba"

aswani:
Which part of modern day Lagos exactly was a part of Benin?

When did Yorùbá's conquer "Lagos Benin" to the point that the Benin Language was wiped out and replaced with Yoruba?

That there is some nexus between the Palace in Isale Eko and the one in Benin is undeniable, however how large was Isale Eko then compared to Lagos now (this is assuming it was Isale Eko as a whole that was related to Benin and not just the palace). Same as in Benin where there is a link between the palace, and not the people, and the Ooni's palace in Ilé Ifè (which is well documented on Nairaland).

You must he able to say or prove when modern Lagos which was Benin Land suddenly morphed into a Yoruba speaking environment including in its palaces.

You might not want to read it, but it is clear that Lagos is an extreme end of Yorubaland, same as Ekiti and some places in modern day Republic of Benin, and not just full of Yoruba speaking people.

Not everybody here is black, ObamaMessi is most likely not black and is racist against black people. Or he's just mentally unstable.

Why does history backed by historical research based on eyewitness written documents always give the likes of you a headache ? To people like me, history is important. To people like you, history is irritating and must be replaced by your favourite ethnocentric propaganda.

T9ksy:
Honestly!!! Best advice, ever.
These guys are just flippin' mischievous . This topic has been deliberated myriad times on this platform but like a nightmare that refuses to go away, they keep bringing it up, again & again.

Okay, Lagos is not part of yorubaland . Can we have some peace, now?

Only invaders hate to be reminded of the eyewitness written past of where they live. So that should tell you who you really are (hint: your ancestors were plucking cotton in Brazil).

🤣😅 nice try

aswani:
You will also find Yoruba spoken in various parts of Kwara, Kogi and Delta states.

Lawag3:
I agree many askenazi Jews have european DNA. Many more have Jewish ancestry. Your link did not say askenazi Jews are europeans. It only points at that many of them are genetically europeans what about those of then that had Jewish ancestry what about mizrahi Jews and shepardic jews are they also europeans

Your brain is so confused.
Being a Jew is not an ethnicity, it is a religion !
Ashkenazis are east-Europeans as shown by DNA tests. Is this so hard to understand ?
Some Jews are recent migrants from the middle east, they are not Ashkenazis ! They are Arabs.
If you convert to Judaism right now, you would also be a Jew.

Lawag3:
If you're talking about the Crusades then you don't know history the Crusades to the middle east wasn't to attack jews but they were as a a result of Islamic expansionism. They wanted to take back formally christian lands from the hands of the Muslims. It was a war on Muslims not Jews. And Jews died on both side.

So in your mind, Jews were involved in crusades ? You are the one whom is supposed to know the history of the crusades, yet you don't understand that it was a group of christians, no JEW, marching on Jerusalem!
You clearly have difficulties to understand that Judaism is a religion, not a people. You confuse biblical Israelites with people of Jewish faith. By the way, the Muslims in Jerusalem who were slaughtered by the crusaders were descendants of Judea, Jesus's relatives and ancestors of the Palestinians. So you don't really understand the topic.

Procashtips:
It doesn't work that way.

Crypto is meant to be decentralised, any "Crypto" that's controlled by an entity or government can't play the role cryptocurrency was created for.

The role it was created for is irrelevant. Sooner or later bitcoin would be completely compromised anyways (if it is not already). Brics crypto would offer both safety for your money and also stability.
Only criminal or clandestine organisations would prefer to remain with the likes of bitcoin. Thinking of it you might be right, the clandestine activity people will never want any form of oversight.

This brics crypto will most likely replace and ruin bitcoin. If you have money invested in bitcoin, cash out now !

Procashtips:
Maybe they'll create a new one because I'm wondering which of the coins they are going to you considering how volatile cryptocurrency is.


Good news to all Crypto merchants, another big time endorsement.

Make Nigeria dey live in the past o.

^^^^^^The evidence which I provided prove your statement to be completely false, Lagos was just a part of Benin and never a part of your imaginary "yorubaland". The only country called "yoruba" (yarri.ba) was oyo kingdom and it never extended to Lagos.
But de all know that logic doesn't matter to yoruba Dogma driven fanatics.

3seriez:
I did not know of that and that's why I asked but you said I have a comprehension problem 🤷🏾‍♂️

Ask for proof !
Some Nigerians are extremely gullible like you, some others are compulsive liars like him.

1. Warri was not under Benin Kingdom/Empire, it was a part of Benin Kingdom/Empire.
2. Dahomey was never part of oyo, stop confusing your fairytales with reality.
3. I still don't understand how you magically got to know for sure that the flag was part of the itsikiri ethnic group ? So because a pretend itsikiri bigot made the claim in 2024, therefore it must be true ? Earlier, I proved the fact that the claim of ghostofNigeria makes no sense.
4. You clearly lack knowledge of history, the British didn't attack all parts of Benin empire, the itsikiri were not attacked.
5. I also think you don't fully understand that our monarchies of today are only homages to our precolonial monarchies. Warri never got independence from Benin empire, rather the British invaded and added parts of the empire into the british colony of Nigeria while other parts went to Germany and France.
6. At least take time to read all I posted here before replying, because your comment seems ignorant of some facts which I shared right here.

PHAYOL81:
I never argued whether they were under BENIN or not when the flag was taken. All I meant is even if the flag was returned to BENIN in error （as the kingdom attacked to get the loot）, the flag should be released to the rightful owner. If an artefact was taken from BENIN REPUBLIC's FON ethnic group while they were still under the control of the old OYO EMPIRE, it's only ideal to be released to the rightful and original land of the craft if such gets returned to OYO kingdom of today in error. It's theirs! It's their right!

A little bird told me biden and zelensky might have ordered the hit on trump.

Ekaka14:
Trump ever so boastful and rambles about nothing alot of the times...he will so milk this moment ehn....I pity Old Joe, the mainstream media will leave him and start chasing Trumps news till elections in November 🤔

How market ? 🤣

chopnaira:
He might not be lucky next time.

There is no left in America, it's just two right wing parties disputing power.

Stolen:
WATCH OUT FOR ANOTHER PANDEMIC ONCE HE IS IN WHITE HOUSE.


THOSE DEMONS FROM THE RADICAL LEFT ARE NOT GOING AWAY.


THEY REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM NOW, BECAUSE THAT BLOOD INDUSTRY THEY HAVE SET UP IN UKRAINE WILL BE SCRAPPED AS SOON AS TRUMP GET INTO WHITE HOUSE.



NO MORE BLOOD FOR THEM.

So anybody who actually knows how to research history must be Igbo. Dude, proven facts have no ethnicity.
It is time you realize that what's hurting you is actually well researched history which you hate for destroying your political propaganda.

Tflex01:
😂

Igbos nor dey rest onto Lagos matter na. That is why I always give them a very easy option; simply come and carry Lagos. 😆