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But what Igbos do not understand is that a VP slot in 2011 makes a presidential slot in 2015 impossible
Right now, everyone is sympathetic to the plight of the Igbo-race

So why not support SS for the VP slot in 2011, so that Igboland can have a very broad support from the south come 2015
Anything contrary to that arrangement will spell doom for Igboland, as SS and SW would be reluctant to support an arrangement that would make an Igboman spend a stretch of 12 years non stop in Asorock.

eku_bear:
The spam filter

There is no spam filter
Blame it on Igbobuigbo

He did the same thingy to me

175:
@ All tanx. I just got a reliable intel on dis party. My broda's gf who stays wit him just confided in me dat its goin 2b an all girl party (ladies only) and moreover dat she aint d only one celebratin dat day. She n one of her frnd's wil b markin it 2geda. But am not stil okay wit dat. D poser now is this (ladies only party) stuff. Is she not into sista sista tin or bisexual? Cos on one or two occasion i ve had reason 2 suspect her bn bisexual. Besides my bro is not yet aware of d party cos he's not in town rite now.

Spin it however you want
The truth is that you are no more on her rader.

More power to your left hand, abi na right dey do am for you?
Either ways, you gon be spending a lot of time getting to know the palms of your hands better.
Goodluck, bro!

Blazay:
Unbelivable.

Cant you spell again?

^^^^

Make me!

igbobuigbo:
The source is UNDP via NBS. You can google that, I am sure

I have already in my first post acknowledged that Lagos should have the highest literacy level for obvious reason: admixture of people from different ethnicities. I am only insisting that the 92 % claim is wrong, just like your own FAKE 70 % claim as of 1960 So quit ranting like an ant.

Check the data for other Yoruba and Igbo states and you get stung in the head

Dont tell me that you expect an ethnic group full of people like this (see below) to be the most literate in Nigeria

Dis Guy:
Well that will be extortion wouldnt it? A bit like double taxation already crippling business

Which is OBVIOUSLY illegal. I am a bit surprised that our own Kobo can't see the illegality in this.
****SMH***
*****Oma she o*****

igbobuigbo:
I ask that you read the 2009 PDF file attached to my first post (# 6) in this thread. Study that stats there. Quit living 40-50 years ago with some FAKE 70% claim and no link to prove it.

So whats the sourse?
It changes nothing; as a matter of fact, it affirms the sentiments of the topic of this thread.

If your aim is to twist the data to show Igbo supremacy over Yorubas in the area of literacy, the PDF file fails to prove that.
Just as you have Igbos in the west, ther are a lot of Yorubas in the East. So any educated conclusion will, no matter how well intentioned, be erroneous and baseless.

And also. no one knows if the data in the PDF is drawn from raw date or percentages
Careful analysis of the article will show that nothing substantiative can be drawn from it

For starters, no one knows the P-value, and who knows what methodology was employed. And what about the identity of the data gatherers?
Anyway, If the conclusion makes you happy, hey, bro knock yourself out.

From UNESCO,

. . . In this division, the North, at the time of independence in 1960, was by far the most underdeveloped area in Nigeria, with a literacy rate of 2% as compared to 19.2% in the East (literacy in Arabic script, learned in connection with religious education, was higher). The West enjoyed a much higher literacy level, 70% in 1960, now 92% in Lagos, being the first part of the country to have contact with western education in addition to the free primary education program of the pre-independence Western Regional Government

Obiagu1:
92%
I need not say much. We only decieve ourselves.

If we counted the Ibos in Lagos, it would be 95%, but eh, it is what it is.

igbobuigbo:
I do not expect that Igbos in Lagos will be employed in the state ministry (of education, in this case), if at all, in any large number.

Those teachers are Yoruba.

So the only Ibos that can speak and write are the "dorty" spare parts dealers?
Way to go brother. . . . Great logic!

A few years ago, it would have been very strange to be discussing this issue. Perhaps it sounds strange to you even now, what with the age long challenge of girl child education still remaining unconquered and a million and one NGO’s registered solely to address gender disparity in school enrolment in the country.

Nobody however seems to be taking note of a disturbing new trend. There is an alarming decline in boy child enrolment in schools especially in eastern parts of the country to such an extent that I believe it should now be the concern rather than the earlier issue of girl child education.

Nobody seems to be asking any questions why there is an increase in the number of boys dropping out of school especially in eastern Nigeria. This is a trend that is so obvious but which there are unfortunately, no figures to prove. It is something we know is happening but which we are either pretending not to have noticed or we don’t seem to have accorded it enough importance to begin to address it.

In the past, parents sent only their male children to school, believing albeit erroneously, that the education of their daughters was a waste. Then, the gender disparity favoured the male child as many more boys had the opportunity of accessing western education.

Today however, following an erosion of societal values and the increased pursuit for quick wealth that brings about greater acceptance in the society, education and the need to acquire it seems to have lost their attraction. Indeed, wealth itself now buys certificates and positions of leadership. More and more, the average young man is not seeing the need to spend so many years in pursuit of what he can achieve through other means. Spending the same measure of time chasing money seems a more fulfilling endeavour.

The situation is not helped by the very poor performance of the Nigerian government in education. At the moment,

Federal Government college teachers have downed tools. Their colleagues in primary schools in about nineteen states have also refused to resume for the new academic session due to the failure of government to implement the agreed Teachers Salary Scale. The deadlock in the tertiary level is now a national embarrassment; I need not bore you with it here.

Unfortunately and ironically, after many years of expending our resources including grants from international agencies like the United Nations, we cannot boast of having made significant success in redressing the issue of girl child education. It would not therefore be far from the truth to state that whatever r data there is on a reduction in gender disparity the figures are more likely be really about more boys dropping out.

These male drop out not to go into apprenticeship in any trade or craft, but straight into the scramble for whatever they can grab. This leaves them either perpetually at the bottom rung of Maslow’s chart or with a desire to do something criminal to rise in it.

Ever wonder who the army of Okada riders are? Or the bus conductors and Motor Park touts? What about the boys who harangue you to buy their wares in the traffic? Okay, let’s bring it closer home. Who are the guys robbing the buses and the banks? What is the gender of those taking people hostage?

It is not rocket science to note that we are sitting on some kind of time bomb here. A nation that toys with the education of her children, as we seem to be so obsessed with doing at the moment, is surely headed for doom. It becomes even more worrying when it is her male population that is increasingly dropping out of school.

igbobuigbo:
Teachers In Lagos Can’t Write Correct Sentences —Sosan
December 16, 2009 14:13, 1,251 views
By Kazeem Ugbodaga

Many teachers in Lagos State public primary schools cannot write correct sentences, Deputy Governor of the State, Princess Sarah Sosan, has revealed.

Sosan explained that the state government cannot tolerate this again, stressing that any teacher who cannot meet the academic standards in the New Year should either be shown the way out or be asked to go back to the training school.

The deputy governor who dropped this bombshell at a meeting with Head teachers of public primary schools in the state lamented the decay in the primary school system, adding that there had been a sharp drop in enrolment into public schools within the last 10 years as a result of poor teaching.

“Many of our teachers cannot write correct sentences. Those days are over. As we enter the New Year, any teacher who is not able to meet up with the standards will be asked to go or go back to training school.

“We have primary six children that are being taught alphabets in JSS 1. The situation is so bad. The performance of our teachers and that of the Head teachers is a concern. Our primary education is bad, it is really, really bad.

“Anywhere I go, I get complaints that our teachers can’t speak English. We should improve and that is why we are here. Our primary school teachers must upgrade their knowledge. Many of them are not doing so.They should work on themselves,” Sosan directed.

The deputy governor disclosed that although the state government was putting in much to provide qualitative education, the teachers were not helping matters, as some of them were not coming to school at all.

According to her, “lots of pupils are no longer coming to our schools, unlike 10 years ago. The problem is qualitative teaching. We hear that some teachers, especially in Epe, don’t come to school at all. God is watching us.

“We are not expecting man to reward us. We need to put the fear of God in everything we do. Whether people are watching us or not, do the right thing. Let people have faith in our schools again.

“As Head teachers, you don’t need to be afraid of any teacher, whether they have godfathers or not. We need a disciplined educational sector. We are not happy with what is going on in our primary schools. It is so bad,” she lamented.

Sosan recounted an experience when she went to Iwaya Primary School, Yaba LCDA and entered into a conversation with a primary four pupil. She said she asked the girl whether she understood what she said. To her consternation, the girl replied in Yoruba language.

Sosan asked the Head teachers to do something urgent about the shabby dressing of primary school pupils and warned that henceforth, head teachers of schools where pupils dress shabbily would be sanctioned.

“I go into the streets and see our pupils badly dressed. I see pupils with their chest open. We don’t want that anymore. If I see your pupils badly dressed again, we will sanction you as the head teacher. Until they remove their uniforms, they don’t have to be shabbily dressed. We have to start training them.

“If teachers are doing their work, we won’t get bad results. Pupils perform poorly because teachers are not doing what they are supposed to do,” she said, adding that the various education secretaries who were expected to monitor the schools had failed.

“The education secretaries are not working. We are going into 2010 and there are lots of challenges. Let us try our best, our performance must improve. Please, wake up whoever (head teacher) is sleeping, we have come here for a serious matter,” she said.

Chairman, Lagos State Universal Basic Education Board (SUBEB), Alhaja Gbolahan Daudu, earlier said the essence of the meeting was to exchange ideas on how to improve education in the state.

“Education is the bedrock of the society and it starts from nursery and primary schools. It is quite germane to have this kind of meeting often. The essence is to talk as a family in order to ensure a brighter future for our children,” she stated.

http://thepmnews.com/2009/12/16/midweekk-special-teachers-in-lagos-can%E2%80%99t-write-correct-sentences-%E2%80%94sosan

Since, by your logic, Lagos is also largely Igbo-speaking. And dont be surprised if the Igbo-speaking population make up a [b]huge proportion of Teachers In Lagos who Can’t Write Correct Sentences.[/b]Igbos currently lead in education in Nigeria( source, JAMB stats), and a large bulk of them are based in Lagos

The Education Trust Fund (ETF) has taken up a huge task: To draw up an interventionist blueprint that will encourage more boy-child education in the Southeast Zone. The ETF claimed to have found out that young Igbo boys, under societal pressure and high parental expectations, prefer to drop out of school to engage in business and trading apprenticeship with the intention of making money than going to school. 
And according to ETF, the low rate of school enrolment and high dropout rate of boys in Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu and Imo states “portend grave danger” for the future of the Igbo ethnic group and the nation at large. Needless to add, it will make the zone miss the 2015 global target of Education for All.
Prof. Mahmood Yakubu, Executive Secretary of ETF, raised the alarm in Owerri, Imo State capital, to Igbo leaders at a recent stakeholders’ forum on boy-child education in the South-East. He said that the ETF research had found out that young Igbo boys do not only refuse to enroll in school, but also drop out early to engage, in some cases, anti-social activities such as kidnapping for ransom.
The ETF also listed high societal expectations for male children to get rich quick, lack of gainful employment after graduation from university, poor salaries for workers, parents exposing their children early to trade and other business apprenticeships as causes of the high rate of dropouts. The professor called on the government at all levels, parents, guardians and corporate bodies to give priority to boy-child education in the Southeast zone so as to avert the danger of creating a massive uneducated male population in the land.
We commend ETF for its highly laudable observation. But regrettably, in the current economic climate, this observation has little chance of sinking into the minds of the people as speedily and promptly as it should. High graduate unemployment discourages the youth from staying in the classroom. By the time their age-mates graduate into a daily swelling unemployment labour market, the illiterate traders in Onitsha , Aba , Alaba and elsewhere nationwide are comparatively rich, get chieftaincy titles and reserved high-table seats at public gatherings. They marry the prettiest university graduates and the educated men settle for the leftovers.
At best, the illiterates employ the graduates and pay them peanuts. These are the realities that ETF’s candid observation will bang its head against. High social pressures in an economy that is not conducive for university graduate employment preclude immediate acceptance of the message, as rational thinking would predict.
All the same, ETF’s message is worth the effort, especially since the brilliant poor will be encouraged to stay in the classrooms. Moreover, the consequence of failure in school enrolment now will make the bulk mass of illiterate males grow up, marginalized and insensitive to national political issues in future and render them ineffective leaders of their communities. To worsen it, the illiterate businessmen will have poor business skills with which to engage in unethical business practices and, worst of all, this will increase family instability because of illiterate males marrying female graduates.
In other words, the current protests about Igbo marginalization - while the ethnic group has highly qualified persons in every field - will become worse a few decades from now when there will be millions of rich albeit uneducated Igbos, without any qualification to enable them to meet Federal Character quotas.
We urge Ohanaeze, Ika Akanga, World Igbo Summit organizers and all important Igbo associations to make ETF’s wake-up call succeed by redirecting their not so smart boys into the classroom

^^^
We will print new ones

When there is ink, there is money

^^^

Isn't he Ibo?
I know that truth hurts

But sentiments aside, arent Ibos the worst people in Nigeria
Most bad things are done by the Ibos, that doesnt meant that there arent good Ibos; the good ones are few and far in between

Anyhoo, as usual, Thank God/Sango/Buddha/Sopono/Ogun/Allah/ Satguru Mahraji/Blazay/ Alh Harem/ Ileke Idi/ Sagamite/ Seun/Mark ZuckerBerg/ Obama/Play Boy/Play girl/NL/my books, I am not Ibo.

Blazay:
Don't you just love politics without bitterness?
[b]Not a single gunshot like we have in the wild, wild west.[/b]God bless Adedibu and co.

It only shows how passionate we are in our belief!
Got to love a man/people of passion!

tpia1:
i think some of you need to stop attacking the whole world for no valid reason.
for those of you who arent used to the system, in the US, unlike nigeria, your class is determined by your age, not your brilliance.
so most kids graduate high school @ 17 or 18. Unlike nigeria where you can routinely be ahead of your age group if you're considered bright enough.
the exceptions to this are if you're in a special program for gifted children or something like that. In one of his previous posts in 2008, bawolomo himself pointed out how three year degrees arent the norm. He mentioned he would be graduating that year. In which case he would have been 19. Still unusual to get a first degree at that age.
fstranger kindly put a rein on your nasty mouth for now, because it would be extremely bad taste on your part to derail the thread. Fear God because you dont know tomorrow. And, no, this statement isnt an invitation for you to release some atheist and classless rants.
now, @ topic
given the manner in which he was killed, i believe my question still stands.
if you dont understand my post, kindly ignore it instead of scattering the forum.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
And, yes, I also live in the US
And, yes like Nigeria, in some school districts, your class is determined by your Brilliance
And, Yes, there is a long list of Nigerians like Bawo who graduated HS at 16, not to talk of a longer list of Asians ( most of whom graduate HS at 13/14) and Whites and Indians who graduated HS before their 16th Bday.
And yes, like the US, most people in Nigeria graduate secondary school at 17/18, and a huge proportion graduating at a later age,

And college is what you make out of it. Only stupit people spend more than 3 yrs in college. You can complete your course early if you carry heavy courseloads during regular semesters and take some credits in the summer; You need on average 120 credits for a college degree. If you take 18 credits each semester x 6 semesters ( 3 yrs ), you would be done with at least 114 credits during the regular semesters, leaving you with 6 credits to complete, which you can take over the summer any time.

And No, obtainig a college degree is not unusual and it is absolutely NO BIG DEAL. And absolutely irrelevant to the purpose of this thread.

About the fear of God, Save your self first! And as Jesus said, weep not for me, weep for yourself. Let me carry my cross, and you should carry yours, and if you are not strong enough to carry your case, juice up!

So it is you who should stop your unnecessary questions as advised by others, and face reality.
Listen for once, you just might learn something.

Kobojunkie:
@Poster, overall, I don't believe that is part of his 3 point agenda for Nigeria.

Didirin, thats not the question.

Kobojunkie:
@Poster, does not seem a bad move if you really consider the reality of the situation and the many problems and pains this has caused Lagosians in recent years. I think it is time someone do something about the problem and if it has to start with Lagos, fine!

And, nothing bothers you about its illegality?

DapoBear:
I cannot understand someone watching their neighbor get shot, not call the police, and without hold information. Aren't the neighbors complicit, then? Or am I reaching?

In any case, they are heartless b@stards.

They have done nothing wrong; lets be clear and honest

Who knows why they chose not to call the cops.

I believe in the dignity of every human being that when put in the right environment, they would do what is right.

If you were in their shoes, you would prolly do the same thing.

No one wants to put himself at risk for the sake of someone else; The neighbours arent Jesus Christ after all.

Who knows what the consequesnce would have been, had they called the cops.

It is unfortunate, but you really cannot blame the neighbours.

The problem is with the system, not the nieghbours

There are so many dirty cops in Chicago, and it would have been stupit for the neighbours to put their own life at risk for someone they prolly do not know or care about. Its one of the disadvantages of living in a foreign country.

She lives in Chicago
Dunno why she has Columbus Ohio below her moniker

My image of her is that of a fair complexioned lady with some nasty attitude, prolly tall
Will love to have a one night stand with her though. . .

Could you see yourself living with her?
I just cant imagune living with someone like that.

Keep sleeping!

What makes you think she is Yoruba

Would you date her?

Kobo is Ibo
Very arrogant and stupit

DapoBear:
Eh, 20 journal publications before entering a PhD program suggests either genius, or low quality work.
Not a problem, any time.

Igbobuigbo is Ibo, what do you expect
He is lying.
He has no idea the kind of hardwork that goes into publishing just one paper.

He is all fraud, all lies, all braggadocio.
Nothing of substance in him.

By thier posts we shall know them!

tpia1:
hmm, so many unanswered questions.

if he came to the US @ 13, how did he manage to graduate so quickly and start his masters at 21. Even in nigeria things rarely move that fast these days.

was he in some kind of special or gifted program? I guess if he graduated high school @ 18, and took a three year degree course, it's possible.
are any of his siblings here on nl?
why did he hold such strong views about certain issues? Rather unusual for that age but i could be wrong.
i wasnt close to him but i think i might have some indirect ties to some of his extended family, since i have relations from his area [oyo side]. Not blood ties though.
strangely enough, i lost one of the relations in question, ages ago. Weird circumstances. Was a blow at the time and it still is.
o ga sha.
i think the long and short of the matter is we should just fear God.

Just because you graduated high school at 21 doesnt mean everyone else has to
May be you are just slow, which is not that bad. it could be hereditary, so no fault of yours.

His situation is common and happens often. I see no bigdeal with his academic level/status in relation to his age.

And what does his age have to do with the topic at hand.

Any way, may God bless the departed soul.

MAY YOUR SOUL REST IN PERFECT AND ETERNAL PEACE WITH THE LORD,

SUN RE O, Bawomolo.

MA JE OKUN

MA JE OKOLO

OHUN TI WON BA NJE LORUN NI KO BA WON JE

crash the party

humantoy:
This has nothing to do with the Igbos or their Yoruba brothers.It has everything to do with Lagos.It will be very sad if the only reason Fashola is being tossed about by the party leadership is because they want to install a gov that will be 100% loyal to Tinubu.In as much as I like Tinubu as a politician,he should not turn himself to a demi God.As far as the public knows,Fashola is a hard working gov and he is well loved.It will dampen so many hearts if he is not represented as the ACN candidate especially if people think its just because of the problem he has with Tinubu.Nobody wants an angel as gov.He has his faults too but in the interest of ACN,lagosians including the Igbos,Yorubas,Hausas Ijaws etc living in Lagos,the fight between the two men should not affect the chances of presenting the best person as the candidate.God bless Nigeria.

Are you kidding?
I want an angel as Gov. If Possible God!

^^^

If only you were not arrogant, you would have understood what he was trying to say
Read it again!