₦airaland Forum

AFONJAPIG:
pastor Chris when are you going to visit ur home town or are u going to build helipad like one useless Duara farmer

Only an African Pastor would donate 1billion naira to His alma mater and feed more than ten thousand families daily. He is not the federal or state government dude

Mckandre:
seems to me like an occultic behaviour,the unison choice makes it look like it's a die requirement of any individual aspiring to be a pastor of that church.

I attend the church and most of the pastors don't even Jerry curl or "fry" their hairs. There are several group and zonal (senior) pastors without the said hair style. There are two members of the church's highest body that do not style their hair that way.
Next time, talk wetin you know.

I think including the niqab in a billboard depicting indecent dressing was a very wrong move and moving forward the university Senate should engage the key stakeholders, esp the Muslim students association in the implementation of a restriction on the niqab.

Personally, I feel that the use of a full face veil in a tertiary institution should make us ask some serious questions: how do we verify the identity of the person underneath the veil for security and examination or test purposes? Remember that most security personnel and lecturers, who will normally perform the security or student verification checks mentioned above are men, and by the Islamic religion, cannot see or check the face of a woman in niqab.
Also, who is going to search such persons under the milan for weapons or "expo", is it the same men not allowed to touch them? We know that most Nigerian institutions don't have metal detectors or scanners.
These are some of the questions I expect the university Senate to bring up with the stakeholders before announcing the restriction.

Have to go now

I am totally with you on this man. We should see what each of them voted for and should be able to question the rationale behind such votes. Also, can we also have a system for automatically disqualifying reps or senators who don't sponsor at least a bill from seeking re-election

Suspect33:
Bro, that is not even it, what made me give up on this race still stands before me, i cannot witness Christ, one cannot enter heaven without that and am too much of a coward to tell anyone abt Christ

Send me a pm please. Let's take this offline

Suspect33:
where do i even start again with God, my life is just a mess, God might even be tired of me

Start from where you are, call on Him from where you are. He is not tired of you. He loves you

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Fantastic thread, love the old Ferrari. I would like to see the e type jaguar compared with the current model

The central theme of the message is that worship goes deeper than songs and that the purpose of songs is to create the right atmosphere within us, for true fellowship with God. Any true Christian should know this.

Jesus was most likely black like the picture, but his hair was a lot longer than depicted in the picture. Remember, he was a Nazarene - he never had his hair cut - while on earth

My wife finally got me to watch king of hearts yesterday and I must say that I find it quite silly. Two men decided to play a game of kites to determine who goes home with a lady I understand is somehow married to both of them; one by choice and the other happened while she was a kid. Seriously, that was very childish and unrealistic, I felt it was a show for five year olds. Needless to say I am not watching it again

Nice list, but mostly old information. For example, smackdown is now a live show, smackdown live on Tuesdays. Also, blading no longer happens although it could be a relatively safe way to introduce blood into a match. Getting an opponent to bleed the hard way may lead to concussions, if in doubt, ask Randy Orton

I don't know why we have to introduce tribalism into every discussion. Bullet proof or tactical vests have been produced, have them tested extensively and if they pass, order large quantities for our security outfits

Weselion:
Its actually a cool feature mam. If I see any link I love while browsing, I can send it to my self on telegram and have access to it both on phone and computer.

You can also do that with evernote and have it synchronized on all your devices. You can even make notes about the webpage sef

tonero4urch:
This aspect of the bible that says we should not judge the anointed is what made us to be in this position. The pastors brought this part of the bible to brain-wash us so we can not see the truth from the lies. We should not judge them even if the truth is glaring. Oga talk well.

What truth is glaring? That Pastors are responsible for the economic downturn or failure of successive governments to build industries and functional institutions? Okay, let's jail all the pastors and imams and watch the country get better.... why not direct your anger at those that actually killed off the industries and embezzled tax payers money... enuff said

akoko11:
What I was saying is that all d Niger Delta States should have made it. Only three making d list shows that we are highly cheated. We need fiscal federalism or Niger Delta Republic, take a look at Abuja what are they contributing to d national purse definitely little or nothing, yet it had infrastructures that worth trillions of dollars

Yes, you are highly cheated, by your elected representatives. Your states have more allocation than kaduna, enugu, kano, login, and oyo states. The governor's in these states are just more focused

Congratulations to you and your wife. May the God's favour rest and abide with the little dude and the rest of your household

Evestar200:
See Them, Having Headache On Delta State Issue As If Their Life Depend On It, We Rather Have 1 Of Thief Ibori Than Hv Hundred Saints Of State Governors, None Of Ur Governor Can Match Up Or Do What Ibori Did In Delta State, Ibori Did Not Centralise Development In Delta Like What Every Governor Of Nigeria Is Doing, So U Guys Shld STFU.

Yea right he did so well. That's why there is no single bank in okpara, oreokpe and ovu... also, the roads are so bad that all the governors, past and present, deserve special recognition.

RIP to the dead..... but who welds near a loaded gas tank? Common sense dictates that they should have waited until the tank was empty and the fuel pumps were turned off before considering a welding operation. Even at that, there should be a distance of at least 10 metres between the welding site and the underground fuel tanks. Gas and petrol stations should also be fitted with foam based fire suppressants to prevent this kin tragedy.

This line about aliens coming to mine gold for their atmosphere, in the ancient past, is widely repeated by Ancient Astronaut theorists. In fact it’s become something of a foundational idea in the movement. This idea traces directly back to Zecharia Sitchin and has absolutely nothing to do with Sumerian texts.

It’s interesting to note that Sitchin doesn’t even give a place in the Sumerian texts to justify this notion that they needed gold for their atmosphere. He says the following in his book “The Wars of Gods and Men”:

“The metal, with its unique properties, was needed back home for a vital need, … as best as we can make out, this vital need could have been for suspending the gold particles in Nibiru’s waning atmosphere and thus shield it from critical dissipation.” (emphasis mine)

So he says ‘as best as we can make out’. Who is ‘we’? And what texts would even hint at that idea. He creates this idea of gold particles being needed in a planet’s atmosphere out of nowhere.

Nowadays you can do a word search for the uses of the word “gold” in the Sumerian texts.[11] We can read every mention of this word.

Not only are the mentions of the word gold relatively few in the Sumerian texts, there is nothing to indicate anything but the most ordinary uses for gold[12]. In fact It’s a surprisingly boring study.

Thanks to meticulous cataloging of the Sumerian texts over the last few decades, and the advent of the internet, we no longer have to take people like Sitchin’s word for it.

Heiser: “There are some databases online that allow you to search through Sumerian texts, and I have a video on my website sitchiniswrong.com. If you go there and click on the Annunaki tab I will show you how to search through something called the electronic text corpus of Sumerian literature. I will show you how you can search for all the occurrences of the word Annunaki and then click through the English translations of all those occurrences. You can find this material and I would encourage you to do so because you can check up on Zecharia Sitchin; you can check up on me.

When I claim that there are no texts [and] there are no tablets that have, for instance, the Annunaki on Nibiru or associated with Nibiru; that Nibiru isn’t a planet beyond Pluto, how easy would it be to prove me wrong if you knew how to search for those terms? It would be real easy, and I encourage you to check up on me and everybody else and do the work. You can access this material and know who’s telling you the truth.”

We can finally see for ourselves why the Sumerian scholars have been so critical of Sitchin, not because they are too close minded or anything like that, but because Sitchin really doesn’t seem to know what he is talking about.

Let me give you an example of how Sitchin comes up with his “amazing” translations.

Let’s take this idea that the Sumerian texts speak of mining gold. Now since the Sumerian texts do not speak of mining gold in any way, Sitchin has to construct this idea out of thin air. This is how he did it:

Let’s look at a quote from his first book “The Twelfth Planet”:

“Some Mesopotamian hymns to Ea exalt him as Bel Nimiki, translated “lord of wisdom”; but the correct translation should ‘undoubtedly be “lord of mining.”

In classic Sitchin style he never gives any reason that the “correct translation should ‘undoubtedly be “lord of mining.” He just says it should be and leaves it at that.

Again, we have Sumerian dictionaries written by the scribes themselves, and the Sumerians don’t agree with Sitchin here at all, so why should we?

I think one way to demonstrate how bad of a translation this is, is to read a little about Ea’s or Enki’s wisdom in context, and let you see if it makes sense to you as meaning wisdom or if it really means mining.

This is an example from a Sumerian text called Enuma Elish:

HE WHO UNDERSTANDS ALL
The Wise One,
The Great One,
EA who Knows ALL THAT IS,
Perceived the Plot.
He countered it
With a Powerful Spell.

Not only does it describe his wisdom further by saying “he who understands all” but it also says that because of this wisdom he was able to perceive a plot before it happened and counter it. None of what we just read makes sense if “wisdom” means mining.

Or from the same epic:

EA,
Who knows ALL THINGS,
Knew he could not Defeat
KINGU and the Hosts of TIAMAT.

Here again we see a contextual definition of Ea’s knowledge. He knows all again, and we see this knowledge helped him understand that he could not defeat Kingu.

These are not isolated descriptions of this knowledge; Ea is the god of wisdom for a reason. Nothing said about him makes sense if his knowledge means mining, or even knowledge about mining. All the stories about him highlight his great understanding, and conversely there isn’t even a hint that he cares a lick about digging for gold or anything else…it’s just not there. It requires an ignorance of the Sumerian texts in order to be believed.

Let’s move on to another claim about the Annunaki:

AA: “Virtually every story that’s in Genesis – the flood story, the Adam and Eve story – all have precedents with the ancient Sumerians. The story that came down to the Sumerians is that the Annunaki were mining gold on the Earth and the run-of-the-mill workers complained saying: ‘This is really hard work and we’re tired. We don’t want to do this anymore’ and so they had a big council and they decided to create a primitive worker called an Adamou. The Annunaki created humans as a slave species.”

The first thing to be aware of here is that in the epic of creation that they are referring to here, the God’s weren’t mining gold. The work that the gods were doing is creating the world, kind of what you would expect from a creation epic.

It even specifically states that they were making mountains and rivers, such as the Tigris and Euphrates. [13]The gods here were tired of creating the earth not gold mining.

The epic goes on to describe the following events:

· The gods decide to mix up themselves with clay and make man.
· As the version of men they made increased in number, the noise they made angered the gods.
· They decide to kill them off with a flood.
· One man is instructed to build a boat.
· He put animals on it.
· It rains for seven days and seven nights.
· The man and his family are saved.

There are many similarities between these Sumerian writings and to the biblical accounts of the creation of man and Noah’s flood.

Some people think this is due to the writers of the Bible copying the earlier Sumerian writings. This is problematic because even the critics who specialize in this style of ancient literature say there is no evidence of literary borrowing[14], in fact just the opposite. They propose that they must be referring to a common source for the information.

One paper by A. Heidel, A.R. Millard and D. Damrosch concludes this way:

“Literary dependence cannot be demonstrated. Here, as in most of the parallels in the primeval history, it is considered more likely that Mesopotamian and biblical traditions are based on a common source. Some understand this common source to be a piece of more ancient literature, while others consider it the actual event.’ Hill & Walton, ‘A Survey of the Old Testament’, p. (2010).

Add to this that it is not just the Sumerian texts and the bible that are talking about the same basic story, but obvious elements of this story can be found in almost every early culture, regardless of its location.

Take for example the story of Viracocha in South America.

Viracocha created the heavens and the earth. He then took large stones and breathed life into them. But they became giants, so he sent a flood to wipe them out. After the flood he breathed into smaller stones than the first time thereby creating smaller people, which were then scattered all over the world.[15]

And in the bible, in Genesis 6 we see something similar. The Sons of God disobeyed God, they came to earth had sex with human women, producing giants called Nephilim. The Nephilim over time almost eliminated the original human population, and this is one of the reasons that God sent the flood.[16]

These stories are found in some form in cultures as geographically separated as you can get. They are in China, Europe, the Middle East, they are found in Native American traditions, in South America and many others.xvii

The similarities are too obvious to simply dismiss. Things like 8 people being on the boat are mentioned in a good percentage of these stories.[17]

I personally think that all these cultures are drawing from the same original story, a story that was told only one way, and that as migrations happened from this original group they started adding in details that were more locally important to them. But that each of these cultures sincerely believed they were passing on the true account of the origin of humanity to their descendants as this story was told.

Ironically if you take it at face value, if there was really a flood and all people except for the ones on the boat were destroyed, and if most modern cultures were descended from them, the fact that the entire world seems to have inherited the same story would make sense, because they essentially had the same eight ancestors who experienced such a dramatic event, and made it a point to pass the story to each generation.

I propose that something like this really did happen in ancient history. I don’t see any logical way around it. The question I have is which, if any of these accounts, is closest to the truth?

Ancient Aliens tells us that the Sumerian version is closest to the truth because they were recorded earlier. That makes sense to a point, but we have to remember that the events described in the Sumerian texts were still ancient history to the Sumerians. So the question is not so much about the date of the writing, but rather their ability to preserve the story.

I’ll give you a few very good reasons to seriously doubt that the Sumerian accounts should be given more weight where they differ from the others.

The first is that the Sumerians stories are not logically consistent.

Take for example that in both the Sumerian and Biblical accounts, dimensions for the boat are given.

The mere fact that an important part of this story is the dimensions of the boat is interesting, but when you draw out the dimensions, you have on the one hand the Sumerian boat, being a big cube, and the biblical one being described by naval engineers as nearly perfect for maintaining stability without hull damage in incredibly rough seas.[18]

Another reason not to trust the Sumerian texts where they differ from the others is that, as every Sumerian scholar knows, the Sumerians constantly change the details of their stories to suit the different situations.

For example, texts of the same story found in the temple of Enki will differ from ones found in the temple of Innana, even if they are from the same time period, but especially if they’re from a different time period. To quote one Sumerian scholar:

“Inconsistencies are a regular feature of Sumerian poetry.”

He goes on to say that “integration of different texts [by the Sumerian scribes] often appear somewhat careless.”[19]

Compare that with the ancient Hebrew scribes, who were notorious for taking their job ultra-seriously. They had many rules that governed their coping of their sacred texts. For example, it is said that they would have to speak every letter out loud before committing it to paper.[20][21]

One example of a vindication of this meticulous attention to detail is with the Isaiah scroll found in the Dead Sea scrolls.

The earliest copies of the Hebrew Old Testament before the Dead Sea Scrolls were the Masoretic texts which were copied between the years 600-1000AD. So the Isaiah scroll, one of the best preserved scrolls, would be a way to prove or disprove if their scriptures had been faithfully copied by the scribes during the previous 800 years. As it turned out they did a flawless job and the Hebrew scribes were vindicated.[22][23]

So when deciding which texts are more accurate as it relates to their accounts of ancient events it is far more logical to assume that the group with a tradition of accurate preservation and transmission of their texts should be given more weight than a culture like the Sumerians who seemed to have little interest in the accurate transmission of the details of their stories.

To sum up, almost everything that Ancient Aliens says about the Annunaki is untrue, which is not surprising considering they copy and pasted almost everything in this section from the books of Zecharia Sitchin.

For more information about Sitchin’s errors in his translations of the Sumerians and Arkaddian texts, I will direct you to the excellent website of doctor Michael Heiser ‘Sitchiniswrong.com’.

Source... http://ancientaliensdebunked.com/references-and-transcripts/anunnaki/

I found this online last night, it's a really long piece but it debunks most of the OP's claim


The short answer is that everything Ancient Aliens says about the Annunaki comes from a man named Zecharia Sitchin. Sitchin wrote many books claiming that the Annunaki were really aliens. Unfortunately, at the time that he wrote this in the 70’s, there weren’t many ways for ordinary people to see if what he was saying is true or not.

To put it simply Sitchin’s translation of the word Annunaki is wrong.

Michael Heiser: “You’ll often read, especially in the writings of Zecharia Sitchin, that the annunaki means something like ‘they who from heaven came’ or some other description that makes them sound like aliens or extra-terrestrials. There isn’t a source on the planet by any Sumerian scholar that would agree with that definition. It’s not a difficult term. I personally don’t think that Sitchin knew Sumerian at all because if you’re going to get a term associated with a very group of important deities wrong, I have to wonder what else you’re going to get wrong.”

Sitchin claimed to be an expert on Sumerian writings, yet we can now see that he didn’t seem to even understand the basic grammar and vocabulary rules of the Sumerian language.v Several real scholars challenged him on his translations, and on his lack of any academic credentials in the field, pointing out that there is no record of Sitchin having anything but a journalism degree[4]:

One such scholar is Michael Heiser. “To this day I haven’t been able to find, nor have other people of whom I’ve asked help – people who liked Sitchin – any credentials of him knowing any of the languages or him being credentialed in any way in ancient near-eastern studies.”

As we progress and look into some of the specifics of Sitchin’s views – articulated by Ancient Aliens – I think you will see that determining the truth about this difficult subject is not out of the hands of the common person.

AA: “It says, word for word, that these beings descended in flying vehicles from the sky.”

This is a preposterous statement. I challenge anyone to produce this “word for word” text.

You can do a search online[5], and literally see all the references to the word Annunaki in the Sumerian texts. The only time it refers to anything even close to this is when it talks about the Annunaki being direct creations of Anu in heaven. A few examples of this would be:

The Anunna, the (gods), whom An conceived in the sky.

The Anunna, whom An in the sky conceived.

These texts emphasize the point that the main Sumerian concept regarding the Annunaki was that they were directly created by An – that’s what’s being said here.

The idea that the text says that they “descended out of flying vehicles” is pure fiction, and that’s the nicest way I can think of to say that.

What Ancient Aliens does here is they show pictures of the winged solar disk as they talk about the Annunaki, and I guess they expect the audience to think that the texts speak of these disks like spacecraft in the Sumerian stories, when in fact the solar disks seen in the iconography are not associated with the Annunaki at all, but rather with the sun and or sun god[6].

This is probably why Tsoucalous says the following:

“And they were always described or depicted [as] floating above some, quote unquote, regular people.”

Since the Annunaki are never depicted floating above people’s heads, we can see that they want people to believe that the solar disk icon equals the Annunaki spacecraft.

This is wrong for several reasons.

Number one, the solar disks in the Sumerian culture, really did represent the sun or the sun god.

The sun travelling across the sky everyday was seen to have been facilitated by wings on the sun. You need to know that there is nothing in these descriptions of the sun in the Sumerian texts that would suggest that they were really talking about a UFO. As boring as it may be, they were really talking about the sun.

One way to demonstrate this is found in the epic of Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh worships Shamash, the sun god, in order to get favor for part of his journey, and he does this by facing east in the morning – that is, in the direction of the rising sun.[7]

The idea that Ancient Aliens proposes here that the Annunaki actually came out of the solar disks or that they were pictured riding in them is just a lie; there is no way around it.

“We can find not only descriptions of the annunaki, but also depictions. We can see them in statues; in carvings, so it’s all very interesting to see that those beings looked like modern-day space travellers with weird suits; some of them wore wrist watchers; they had boots on and helmets and, above all, wings.”

All throughout the Ancient Aliens series they show these pictures of Akkadian winged genies and refer to them as Annunaki. But funnily enough winged genies aren’t Annunaki. In fact these reliefs are not even Sumerian, they’re Akkadian.

But hey, while were here we might as well explain what’s going on in these images, even though they have absolutely nothing to do with the Annunaki.

The belief was that certain aspects of nature were controlled by these winged genies. Most notably they were responsible for the fertilization of the crops.[8][9]

They were often depicted with a bucket of pollen or water in one hand, and a group of male flowers or a pine cone in the other hand. They often are depicted as fertilizing a date tree which was a symbol of fruitfulness.

Sometimes they would be depicted as being pointed at the king which, because of the accompanying inscriptions, we know means that the king was seen to be a type of intermediary between the gods, and responsible for the fruitfulness of the land and the people.[10]

One way to demonstrate this is by explaining what Ancient Aliens calls a “wristwatch.” First, you should take note that if this is a watch then these genies were serious about timekeeping, because they wore one on both wrists, and often on a headband as well. This “watch” is actually an Akkadian symbol for Ishtar the goddess of fertility. You can see the same rosette on the famous Ishtar gate in Babylon.

The fertility of the land was associated with, as you might expect, the goddess of fertility, and these beings are depicted as acting on behalf of Ishtar as they fertilize this date tree.

This also probably explains the wings, considering that the natural and visible way that a flower is pollenated is through bees and birds. Therefore it’s not so hard to see that they were depicting their spiritual agents of pollination with wings as well.

AA: “Zecharia Sitchin has essentially suggested that the reason we were visited in the remote past is because the ancient astronauts’ home planet needed gold for their atmosphere and that their gold-content in the atmosphere was depleting – so they came to earth in order to mine gold and bring it back to their home planet.”

OP, you called that Nibiru is the same as the elusive planet X (now known as planet nine since Pluto has been demoted) and that its' orbit is 3600 years. This contradicts the info on the NASA webpage which predicts the planet nine (it is not yet discovered or sighted) via mathematical modelling. The planet nine has some of the attributes you stated but it's orbit is 10,000 years and not 3600, also the orbit path does not cross the earth's gravitational field as implied by your write up....what do you say to the above

Page 16 and you have not told us in details, how the pyramids were constructed.

NaLaugh:
The mathematical odds of that being two consecutive identical typos is pretty significant.
Improving as a person requires admitting your flaws and imperfections.

I'm not certain what points I need to back up MY personal experiences.

For the last time. Your citation of research data claiming EVERY person on a flight is equally impacted is false.
It would be a blind statement if I came to this conclusion by assumption.

I am not assuming. I am stating physical results of myself in the exact same scenario.
My sense of taste is NOT altered when I'm on a flight. I'm speaking for ME, and not for anyone else.
I have taken my own food on board many times, and it's never different. End of story.

I think anything beyond this point amounts to petty bickering, as I'm certain we both have more judicious things to spend time on.

Peace.

I agree with you. I always take my shortbread biscuit with me on every flight, even international ones and the taste has Never changed

Seun:
I was blessed by the music too. It was touching. Music is powerful.


I actually thought it was staged, because the timing was so convenient. Is it normal to get HIV test results on the same day?

Yes, it is normal to have the result out the same day. The waiting time is less than 8 hours so it is the norm

You don't believe in God, yet you spend a lot of time watching and discussing programmes related to the same non-existent God. Why can't you atheists just let the Christians be.... I was at the said service and was greatly blessed by Benny's ministration and sermon. A lady was healed of HIV at the previous day's service and had the test result with her as proof. What do you say to that?

kevoh:
1. What is wrong with the use of "Talking drum"?

2. What is wrong with putting the picture of the couples on the wedding pamphlet/magazine.

MFM, being an offshoot of CAC decided to ban the talking drum because of an incident that happened in a CAC church in Ibadan, Oyo state. An elder reportedly grabbed the backside of a sister who was dancing to the talking drum. After investigation, the church decided among other things to ban the 'evil' drum. MFM adopted this from the CAC doctrine

firstking01:
Get my point once and for all, that you are a christian doesn't automatically means you are born again...go and verify from your pst, then comeback and qoute me...wait o, from your point of view, it means every christian is born again and peradventure the rapture takes place now all the christian will make heaven??....hmmm, this is ridiculous, seriously...this is why i urge people to attend sunday school and bible study..that's how one told me that he's a christian because he was born into a christian home, can you imagine such naivity??...well, that's a story for another....all i'm saying is, as a christian you must work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, now, that's where the born again thing comes to play...i just wish you are getting me??...i know that the apostles where first called christians in antioch saved for the christlike attributes they portrayed, but the questiom now is, where you are working, schooling, doing your business or plying your trade, can your neighbours or your business associates point to you and say this one is a "christian", cos to me that word "christian" will remain a title to you until you become a "born again christian"..

Verify from the bible man. Acts 11: 26. The believers, that is, the people who have believed the message of salvation were called Christians. I know the meaning has been watered down to refer to just anyone who goes to church, and that may very well be your point, but according to the bible, a Christian is one who is born again. Not every church goer is a Christian, only the born again ones are Christians. As for the rapture, only the Christians, that is, the born again ones who are walking in the light of God's word will get raptured. Good night

firstking01:
Smh, you no sabi bible if so...literarilly do you know that nicodemus was a "christian", but not born again??, hence he was a jew??....samething applicable to the rich young ruler, he was a christian who also believed in the doctrines of moses until he encounterd jesus christ of nazareth:-??...to prove to you that he was a christian but not born again, why did he go home dissaponted and sorrowfully after jesus told him to go sell all his properties and give to the poor if he wants to be perfect and make heaven, and ofcourse i believe you know what led to why jesus told him to sell all his properties and give to the poor??...before then he was thinking he's standing righteously, but unknown to him he was lacking something which jesus exposed to him that day...if i should continue this cyber space won't contain the write up cos at the moment i'm getting inspired by the holy spirit...how ever, know that to be born again means to be convicted by the holy spirit HIMSELF...The man(rich young ruler) was not convicted(had not the holy spirit)...when you are possessed by the holyghost you become spotless and wrinkless before God, and nobody will push you to do things that will please God, the motivating force of the holyghost in you will compell and push you to do the things that will please God..i will stop here for now but remember it was after jesus death and ressurection that he exposed His 12 disciples to the holyspirit??...He breathed upon them and said to them, "recieve the holy spirit before He(jesus) ascended, and that's why you saw His disciples doing exploits after He ascended to heaven....they stood and watched Him being caught up in the sky with two angels on white garmen by His side and was taken to heaven...Ok, thank you.

Let's not argue about terms here. The bible is clear about the origin of the word Christian. The men and prophets of the old testament were Jews not Christians. The disciples did not become Christians until after they had received the Holy Spirit. Christianity is the life of Christ in a human being. Christian literally means 'christ like' how can you be like someone if you came before that person. Anyways, the most important thing is that everyone becomes a Christian, that is, born again.

firstking01:
Smh, the amen wasn't in a good perspective…and my heart cry goes for you cos you are a girl...


Now Note This....there's a huge difference between a "christian" and a "born again christian"...i'm sure you know the story of the rich young ruler in matt 18 and jesus and nicodemus in john chapt 3....go read and help yourself my sister.

I disagree with you, believers were first addressed as Christians in Antioch on account of their lifestyles resembling that of Jesus Christ Acts 11: 26. Hence, the term 'christian' refers to someone who is born again.
The story of the young ruler and nicodemus were instances where Jesus made it clear that Judaism alone is not sufficient for salvation as there were no Christians before the resurrection of Jesus, only Jews

herbie27:
What's wrong with the list?...everything there is on point.

Except the prohibition of three-piece suits and waist coats. What could be wrong with wearing that