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Lookman dare not go to Besiktas

komekn:
That's not what l said, let me explain it in more simplistic terms for you to understand.

The subject is comparison of player attributes and the transfer of those attributes to the SE. In particular Awaziem and Adarabioyo.

Underpinning my view is my never ending proposition. That my preference is for an outstanding Lion in a lower league and club than an anonymous mouse in a top club and league.


Although La Liga is an outstanding league Leganese is a poor club in that league with a stadium that has a capacity of 12k.

Just like the EPL there is a big gulf between the top clubs and the lower clubs and even the 2nd tier of the leagues.

Adarabioyo is just finding his feet as he had had limited chances in City for obvious reasons. As a consequence he is on loan. Nonetheless, he has outstanding in the Championship much to my suprise l watched him bully Dominic Iorfa.

I do not think Awaziem is an outstanding player in his league, he was not outstanding in France and he was OK in Turkey. Because you have leveraged his club perfomances as the basis for him being better than Adarabioyo.

I simply do not know. That's why l said if Adarabioyo was playing in Leganese would he be able to stand out. On the other hand consider the intensity if the Championship will Awaziem be outstanding. But you took it another way in the negative.

People often say, " Put your money where your mouth is"

Awaziem did not attract any better club ❓ Why he is too good. Leganese is a not a rich club that buys budget priced players. In reality they are not able to afford a player like Adarabioyo.

But back to the question who is better ❓ l listed the players individual attributes and said the only area Awaziem may exceed him is in football intelligence and Technicality. The word l used was MAY it's not absolutely definite.

If you are talking about somebody playing as a CB, my preference would be for Adarabioyo because he is faster, taller ( aerial dominance) physically stronger, and to be in City is a given you absolutely must have a good degree of technical ability.

Finally, how does the football market see both players. Not much happening for Awaziem from what l have noticed in the past 7 days. But look how much interest Adarabioyo is generating.

Ok

ChrisKels:
Seems Phillip Anyanwu Billing has finally said yes to Nigeria.

Good back up to Ndidi


Iwobi won us this

Guy stop spreading fake news

andrewbaba44:
You refuse to learn or agree

Have a wonderful day

Learn what? I bet you were among those saying Arsenal can't buy Pepe for 75 million

andrewbaba44:
It doesn’t change the fact that they can’t buy a player of 100m without selling

Why shinning your teeth ,wetin consign me if Liverpool don change ?

You refuse to learn that’s your problem ,they still purchase Allison from part of Coutinho money

Coutinho was sold January ,van Dijk was purchased January the Allison was purchased July

Na simple thing I Dey tell you but here you are acting as if me and you Dey drag something

The thing is you're not Liverpool board and you can't say they can't buy someone

They just signed a deal with Nike showing that they are ready to step into the next level. Your only argument can be they CAN'T buy someone but since it's been proven that they have the money you can't say what direction they will be heading

andrewbaba44:
If Liverpool didn’t sell Coutinho they won’t pay 75 for van Dijk

Liverpool has changed under Klopp they broke the world record price for a defender they also broke the world record for a keeper and as far as their is money they would keep spending more

andrewbaba44:
Have you forgotten Barca paid Liverpool 160 million for Coutinho ?

They bought van Dijk from Coutinho money oga with enough change remaining

Someone should correct me if I am wrong

Yes and??

barackodam:
You can buy

Gk
Df
Mf
St

For 100 mil, you've strengthened 4 positions. You don't have to worry about injuries anymore.


You sign 1 player, not so much. He can go injured, he can go on droughts, the price tag tension to deliver. Yes, it's all overwhelming.

You can also buy someone like Van dyk or Mbappe and he transforms your team instead of buying Sakho, Mustafi, Lovren and Mangala

For example when Bale left Tottenham used his money to buy cheap replacements like Soldado, Lamela, Capoue, Vlad Chireches, Paulinho, Naser Chadli, Eriksen and all of them bar Eriksen flopped

andrewbaba44:
They can’t and they will never ,they don’t have the power bro

The biggest risk Liverpool took was getting vvd and it paid off

You know how many players dem take Luis Suarez money buy ?

You are confusing me the more, why do you think they can't buy somebody for 100 million when they literally bought Van dyk from Southampton for 75 million when his worth was 50 million at best

Are you part of the board?

andrewbaba44:
No matter how you explain to egbon subzero e go still wan argue

I am telling him about spending on a player and e Dey talk of Aston Villa spending 100 on many player

Ok your point is Liverpool have the money but won't spend it on 1 player?

barackodam:
I think you're not understanding his angle. Una don dey drag this thing from pages back.

Barça is among top 2 richest clubs in the world
Barça is among top 2 highest earners from previous season
Barça have been steadily competing in Europe and always reach the quarters at least
Barça almost always wins the league
Barça almost always win Copa del Rey


But, but, but.......

Barça had to ask for 70% paycut from players for this pandemic.

There's the question, what happened to all the money Barça has been earning and earned?


That's what Andrew is saying.

Yes, pool have the money. But they can't spend it on "1 player"

Spending 100 million on a player and spending 100 million on many players what's the difference?

They have the income, they can choose how to spend it

andrewbaba44:
Spending 100 million buying different players is different from spending 100 million on a single player

Everton spent about 200 million also

You think buying a single player for 100 million na beans

Reason kalidou koulibally is still at Napoli

I Dey tell you of spending 100 million on a single player and you are here telling me something else

If you know you know

You you no know then you no know

Dey there Dey shine teeth like camel for wetin you no know

Oh its not about spending 100 million on different players but spending 100 million on a player?

This argument is going nowhere

andrewbaba44:
Accumulate my ass

Liverpool are not claiming broke oga ,you can’t give what you don’t have ok

You think it’s by winning champions league

How come Man United has always remain the richest club in the world ahead of barca and Madrid ?

It’s only recently Barcelona overtake united as the richest club in the world

Liverpool is not a poor club but sorry they won’t spend 100 on a player

Was it not part of Coutinho money that was used in purchasing vvd ?

Someone should correct me if I am wrong

Liverpool earned 300 million from TV rights from 2019 alone and spent 15 million and you telling they can't afford 100 million

andrewbaba44:
Accumulate my ass

Liverpool are not claiming broke oga ,you can’t give what you don’t have ok

You think it’s by winning champions league

How come Man United has always remain the richest club in the world ahead of barca and Madrid ?

It’s only recently Barcelona overtake united as the richest club in the world

Liverpool is not a poor club but sorry they won’t spend 100 on a player

Was it not part of Coutinho money that was used in purchasing vvd ?

Someone should correct me if I am wrong

I'm still trying to understand your point, I'm not saying Liverpool is the richest club in the world

Hope you know Aston Villa spent 100 million as a championship club, Fulham also spent circa 100 million, Everton spent around 100 million in the last 3 years

It is now Liverpool that have been in 2 champions league finals, won one, have a higher TV revenue, have a higher merchandise sale, and a higher matchday revenue with their netspend in the positive can't spend 100 million

You are very funny

andrewbaba44:
E be like say na subzero,if them tell am someting e no Dey hear word

Danny said nike might bankroll the transfer if Liverpool are interested in any big player ,I might believe that one

If you think Liverpool currently don't have 100 million to spend then you're mistaken

Over the past 3 years they have been accumulating without any significant expenses. I think they are using the 'broke' excuses to cover their gaffe of furloughing their staff

Osimhen rejects a move to Italy

I was hoping he would join Napoli

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1257440578733735944?s=19

Tammy Abraham is Amaju Pinnick's nephew

Wow

Wolves interested in Emmanuel Dennis

Who wrote that up there^^^

Andrea Pirlo, the Artist

Sending Ronaldo for a hot dog 🤭

Turning defence to attack in a split second 🔥

Here's two minutes of Andrea Pirlo brilliance for you to enjoy 😍pic.twitter.com/2zpu0uGc7X

— GOAL (@goal) May 4, 2020

AndSunGorilla:
Gentile no be footballer, it was just a hobby. He was an ASSASIN camouflaging as a defender . I believe u must have omitted Franz Beckhenbaur a defender ahead of his time and Mathias Sammer a defensive midfielder turned defender who won the ballon d'or and player of the tournament at Euro 96.

Franz Beckenbauer the GOAT of defenders, how could I have forgotten

andrewbaba44:
Pique is ahead of them in the greatest of all time

It seems like you haven’t seen pique silverware’s let alone individuals

You even get mind Dey call bonucci and Chiellini ,those 2 players got no champions league to their name nor even a World Cup ,you see why I won’t take you serious now

I am a little bit busy ,there is nothin to run away jare , you no say we manage get movement for Lagos today nah

30 best defenders better than Pique

1) Tony Adams
2) Carles Puyol
3) Antonio Cabrini
4) Jaap Stam
5) Gaetano Scirea
6) Roberto Carlos
7) Marcel Dessaily
8 ) Alessandro Corstacurta
9) Laurent Blanc
10) Ronald Koeman
11) Cafu
12) Fernando Hierro
13) Lillian Thuram
14) Alessandro Nesta
15) Gaetano Scirea
16) Lothar Mathaeus
17) Fabio Cannavaro
18) Claudio Gentile
19) Franco Baresi
20) Bobby Moore
21) Sergio Ramos
22) Mauro Tassoti
23) Arrigo Sacchi
24) Jose Santamaria
25) Andreas Brehme
26) Carlos Alberto
27) Karl Hienz Schneillienger
28) Giancinto Faccetti
29) Frank Rijkaard
30) Ruud Krol

Carry your L dey go

andrewbaba44:
Sacchi better than pique ? You must be joking

Only few players here I can agree with you

Why will I even take you people serious self ?

Person don already vex me by mentioning Van Dijk , we are talking about greatest of all time and someone is mentioning someone who has only been at the top for just 3 seasons

You no even put Ramos for this list

I will leave this for another time

Meaning you don run away

I no even mention Bonucchi or Chiellini

andrewbaba44:
You cannot Abeg

No just go there

Pique is one of the greatest of all time

EOD

Cesare Maldini
Antonio Cabrini
Franco Baresi
Paulo Maldini
Fabio Cannavaro
Alessandro Nesta
Arrigo Sacchi
Gaetano Scirea
Claudio Gentile

Na just Italy I go

[quote author=AndSunGorilla post=89160365][/quote]You no even add the Italian big men

Arabiandude:
I just uploaded his personal achievements. And don't forget the ones he achieved with his teams, both country and clubs, he was 100% part of the teams and contributed immensely, except for the few he achieved playing for Man U. So, kindly show us 25 great defenders whose personal achievements surpasses his.

His personal achievements are his achievements his team's is his team's you can't use because a player played in an excellent team to discredit other defenders

You are not serious sha

Arabiandude:
Please do and don't forget to mention their personal and team achievement along with their names..e.g, if you mention Terry and Cavalho, you have to also mention what they achieved individually and the teams they played for that makes them better than Pique

What are Pique's personal achievements?

andrewbaba44:
Yes he is among top 20 of all time

I can give you 25 defenders of all time better than Pique

elyte89:
,y re u so keen abt dis eze guy,anyway he' has priorities England ahead of Nigeria... I am more bodad of saka Dan eze...I believe d likes of iwobi,ejaria,etebo,ndidi,aribo will prove deir worth in d middle




And not to forget our Almighty okechukwu azubuike

Meanwhile what's d latest with siasia case?

Azubuike Xavi Modric Okechukwu has set his eyes on 2021 ballon d'or, he says we don't need to worry about extra midfielders

AllforJesus7:
With our midfield gradually taking shape now is there anyone still craving for the return of Nwakali?

He has phenomenal talent, imagine being MVP in an U17 side comprising of Chukwueze and Osimhen

ChrisKels:
Such player does not exist for now, not even prospects, both local and foreign. Not Torunarigha, not Uduokhai and not Ozornwafor

Ozorwafor is a decent ball player

Arabiandude:
Left footed ball playing CB like Laporte and Lenglet. You have any in mind?

You think say we be Brazil

komekn:
Dominic is possibly the fastest defender in the Championship, he is Athletic strong and quick.

However, technicality is not his strong point.

He was on the up with his team winning all kinds of accolades. Indeed Rohr was seriously looking at him irrespective of the previous politics. His team has lost form so badly it's shocking from contending for top position they have fallen near to the point of possible flirting with relegation.

If your team is failing you loose traction in your personal rating.

Indeed this is something that's going to really help the SE now, the presence of YOBO. He will not compromise on quality and will not be bullied or induced into accepting certain players by NFF officials.

Until l see them both playing good technical composed football it's difficult to ascertain thier true quality.

Nonetheless, as a defender you still need to have some good degree of physicality and athleticism.

We saw how Omeruo was bullied by the Cameroon players in the last Afcon.

Fast, strong and a good tackler, SE have plenty of them

What we need now is a ball playing defender