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Quelme:
The evil empire must be brought down...

US must be crippled for there to be peace globally!!!

I will not respond to this mumu-ness that you displayed.

Bontia:
I am still looking for the exotic cars.

I weak o

A Corolla and a 10-15year old Lexus are now considered exotic cars… this journalism sef.

Was hoping to see some exotic cars smh

ObamaMessi:
In fact, he was attempting to commit suicide.The ukrainian he underestimated chased his army (russia and belarus combined).

Are you his doctor ?
Where did you get your Intel?

Stop this joke, you’re watching too much film, this is real life something.

ObamaMessi:
Na little Ukraine dey do them shege.Putin is regretting his decision to invade Ukraine.He's depressed and near death right now.Pride won't let him accept it.

Wow! How did you get that Intel? Are you his doctor ?

DickDastardly:

All Nuclear Powers should also chanel all their Nukes towards Russia on the ready. Enough of this idiots chenanigans.
Operation wipe out RUSSIA.
NONSENSE!!!

And you think you will be safe ? Smh

moralistic:
... ukraine is not a member of NATO


So you know the meaning of NAIVE ?

Why didn't you use the word NAIVE when your likes were busy saying UK,U.S.A, france, germany are scares of russia that's why they do t want to send troops to ukraine ?

Go and read what you typed, and read my response again.

Your “get mind” opinion does not apply to situation at hand.

moralistic:
Russia please attack any NATO member state...


You get the mind ?

That’s not about mind, but why do they need to do that?

Why hasn’t NATO put soldiers on Ukraine to fight the war? Was that a mind thing ? no!

Don’t be naive

CrownedPhoenix:
You say a sovereign nation cannot join a NATO security alliance

You still say they can't join the EU. EU that is an economic alliance? Haba now

Is Putin now supposed to be dictating when Ukrainians can eat and when they can go to toilet?

No he didn’t restrict them from EU just NATO

Lekan239:
It's a shame Russia have not defeated Ukraine. I thought Russia claimed to have a weapon that could destroy the world

When you become the president of a country with nuclear weapons, and fighting your neighbor… remember to use that nuclear weapon o mugu

EdoBoy90:
In 1994, Ukraine had the third largest weapons in the world but US and NATO persuaded them to disarm their nuclear weapons or denuclearize with the assurance of protection. Today, they are telling Ukrainians to fight for themselves. If Ukraine had nuclear weapons, Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine. Nuclear weapon is a deterrent. With what is happening in Ukraine, Kim Jong Un, Supreme Leader of North Korea, please accelerate your nuclear weapon development. The world is not for the weaklings but for the brave and strong.

In Putin's words, "anybody meddling in Russian affairs will face the consequences that they haven't seen in their history before and that the action will be immediate." Hypersonic missiles and Nuclear Weapons of Russia are keeping NATO at bay. Russia has the largest nuclear weapons in the world. This issue should've been settled with Putin on a round table.

First; Stop being emotional and calling the west names. The Memorandum, was signed by Russia, Ukraine, Britain and the US, promised that none of the nations would use force or threats against Ukraine and all would respect its sovereignty and existing borders. The agreement also vowed that, if aggression took place, the signatories would seek immediate action from the United Nations Security Council to aid Ukraine.

It wasn’t signed by just US and NATO like you insinuated.

2. Ukraine does have the physical missiles at hand on its territory but they don’t have the control and command over it. All Soviet nuclear weapons are only controlled from Moscow.
Ukraine would need to build its own control center from scratch, this will most likely cause issues with its new neighbor Russia, the allies (US, UK) cos they were trying to support them with funds then.
On the other hand, Western Allie’s we’re worried about those weapons ending up in the wrong hands, considering that those soviet nations were poor then.

So, nobody deceived them to give it up, they had no much choice then. Russia was offered the same too, to disarm but Russia didn’t instead Russia took over most of Ukraines missiles.

ivolt:
I know you will run away like others who repeat what they read without serious consideration.
Stop regurgitating ludicrous claims just because Putin say so, it is irritating.

I’m no Putins fan boy. If you’re lazy enough to go read I’m not about to do that for you. It’s free information out there, there’s plenty article about it even on NATO website lol

Patriot9:
My brother, a lot of people here on nairaland make comments base on sentiment and emotion..
There is a reason why demand comes before supply.

Abi o.

aribisala0:
Let us leave all that "mad man" and other emotional stuff to one side


If you are old enough to have been aware during the Cold War and the fall of Berlin you would understand.

His actions are completely rational based on Russian interest

After the fall of NAZI Germany in 1945 the US became the dominant force in Western Europe militarily and economically and was hostile to Communism .

After the fall of Communism the Natural thing to do would be to integrate Russia into Europe. The US see that as a threat and has done everything to stifle the economic progress of Russia. and to undermine and humiliate it


Just imagine how dominant the US would be in the world if Russia did not exist.

Sometimes you need to fight wars to show the world what you are capable of . The US did that in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nothing new


Ultimately Russia and NATO will go to war , that is inevitable because after Ukraine Russia will still want to push NATO out of Poland, Latvia Lithuania and Estonia. That is obvious and predictable

I’m not emotional kankan. And I never said his actions wasn’t logical in the defense of his country. But, a war with your direct neighbor could be messy.

And no, it’s not predictable for Putin to push for those countries to back out of NATO.

What is predictable is doing all he can to make sure Finland, Sweden remain neutral and he’s already threatening them not to even think about it.

ivolt:
Websites?
I didn't know that internet was live in 1989.


One of you should surprise me with facts.


How can it be exclusively about Germany, when Germany was already a member of NATO at the time of reunification?


Actually, nobody except Putin and his admirers accept such a ridiculous story.

First, There was no Germany. There was East Germany and West Germany.

2nd, you just want to argue baselessly… if you can read I’m not about to do that for you. Have a good day!

helinues:
Russia is determined to install their puppet as the new president. Ukraine is gone.

Bad boy get him own day, Trump as USA president wouldn't have allowed this.

Yes he would have called Putin and wrote him some love letter to forgive Ukraine, and agree give him what he wanted… Ukraine can join EU for economic prosperity but not NATO.

Happy now ? Smh

helinues:
Israel and Saudi are now doing business together all thanks to Trump..

That is just an example for how

Sorry but your example is quite du.mb. Again, no offense intended, just couldn’t find another word to qualify it. Sorry

AlexBells:
I'm not quite in the mood to discuss complex things, I could have gone on to tell you how Russia would not walk out of this the same, yesterday there was the fight on the Chernobyl, any mishap there would launch Europe into a Nuclear dust thereby getting NATO involved, Does America have emotional obligations to Ukraine, hell no, Americans don't feel any attachment whatsoever for Ukraine, the situation would be a lot different if it were South korea, the war is a win win for America, either way USSR is in self destruct, I would like to excuse myself from the politics and military aspect of this, lets talk about the love

You nailed it!

mokoh:
If nordstream 2 comes up then Russia supply will increase from estimated 40% to 70% statistically

That’s common sense and not the topic here. The topic was that EU won’t survive without Nord2 that’s not yet operational… how have they been living all these years then.

If Russia decides to short down its total supply, EU will struggle and yes Russia would struggle too. EU is their largest market for gas, I want to see where Russia will get money from too.

aribisala0:
I would argue Russia is able to do this because of the precedents in impunity of the West e.g invasion of Iraq and deposing of Sadaam on cooked up excuses without consequence because there was no one to sanction them.

We in Africa need to learn that recolonization is now a reality and no one got our backs.

We must open our eyes and see the world with our own yes . I remember Fela's song

I done put melecin for eye . Babalawo melecin I put.......


The king wey dey our country na hire him hire him eye

First, I would have bet my money that Putin won’t invade. They are you neighbors, he already took Crimea, Dombass and even Luhansk. He’s just a mad man, and he knew he could do it with impunity cos everybody else do the same. Even Isreal is doing it’s own with impunity, not to talk of a super power.

ivolt:
You obviously know nothing about history, government or even business deals.
Agreement has specific legal meanings.

Russia says few days ago that it is not invading Ukraine, it will be foolish
for someone to conclude that Russia had an agreement not to invade Ukraine.
This is for a factual event.

Imagine using a fictional story created by Putin as the legality of an agreement?

I may be wrong though.
Just post the agreement and its details.

You have absolute no idea. Lots of credible websites covered it, I am not about to paste web links for you… if you don’t know you don’t argue.

Even NATO officials did not deny such agreements… they only said “ the pledge was about Germany not the whole of Europe” the agreement was made when the Berlin wall fell. East Germany was Soviet alligned, and West was already part of the alliance. The Soviet allowed the reunified Germany to join the alliance on the pledge that nato won’t go further East.

While Russians are saying the pledge was to cover all of Eastern Europe.

NATO/US are saying NO, it was a discussion exclusively about Germany.

So, nobody denied such agreement like you insinuated. Both sides just have a difference context of the agreement. Who’s lying about the context is the question at hand not about if such pledge existed or not.

D1official:
Since there were no written documents how did you know? Were you there? Where is the evidence of CIA masterminding the coup in Ukraine? . Just endless fables!!

People just wake up and start typing rubbish just to massage their ego and end up glorifying their ignorance.

You said the world is tired of western imperialism but ended up not mentioning just one nation in support of Russian Madness.

Go and sit down and watch your Russia collapse Biko.

What are you saying ? Even NATO officials did not deny such agreements… they only said “ the pledge was about Germany not the whole of Europe” the agreement was made when the Berlin wall fell. East Germany was Soviet alligned, and West was already part of the alliance. The Soviet allowed the reunified Germany to join the alliance on the pledge that nato won’t go further East.

While Russians are saying the pledge was to cover all of Eastern Europe.

NATO/US are saying NO, it was a discussion exclusively about Germany.

So, nobody denied such agreement like you insinuated. Both sides just have a difference context of the agreement. Who’s lying about the context is the question at hand not about if such pledge existed or not.

aribisala0:
Cuba was not a sovereign nation in 1962?

Why is the US still occupying Guantanamo Bay?

Do not be naive .

You need to go back in history and study it VERY WELL.

How and why did Britain take over Hong Kong from China for 99 years
Nations are sovereign if the World powers allow it. That s how it has always been.
How was Kosovo created? Was it not part of another sovereign nation? America decided it could break away and aided it by force. The rest is geography

Sovereignty is not just in word. With the dollar hegemony even Nigeria is not sovereign. We do what Washington says


Was Libya not sovereign? Today WE are paying the price for Libya

Russia's invasion is terrible but for every person killed in Ukraine the US has killed 100. They are much worse and what is funny is how African victims of the West continue to worship them and parrot their propaganda.

You absolutely nailed it! Russias invasion of its neighbors is terrible and will haunt them back but Western Allie’s are not clean too. It’s only good or bad depending on what side of the table you’re on.

ivolt:
Stop posting lies.
There was no agreement between Russia and the west.
Only a fool would have agreed to such at the height of its power and enemy at its news.

There was an agreement as a follow up on the fall of Berlin Wall and the reunification of Germany. Read your history, it’s okay if you don’t know.

Kingsnairaland:
. Was Iraq and Libya not a sovereign nation.

Oh I almost forgot Libya, even Egypt during the Suez Canal war.

BafanaBafana:
They are sovereign nations for Christ's sake!

Cuba was a sovereign nation during the Cuban missile crises.
Palestine is still a sovereign country.
Yemen and Syria are still sovereign countries.
Oh I almost forgot about Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Taiwan, Japan , HongKong even African countries were sovereign countries when the EU countries shared and colonized us.

Just saying… everybody’s hand is dirty, you only get blamed based on what side of the aisle you belong to.

tamdun:
And Russia are not even going all out, I saw on aljazeera a Ukrainian try to block Russian tank from moving forward and they did not touch him, isn't that funny , Russia is just doing training in Ukraine

If you observe the war style, Russia don’t seem to go after the general population or destruction of the country. It’s obvious that they are only after regime change.

mokoh:
Hope you know Russia supply 40%of energy to Europe

Yes but not via NordStream 2. So NordStream 2 or not they’ve been surviving somehow.
If Russia choose to shut it gas from Europe they will also lose the inflow of cash from that. So it’s a lose lose for both sides.

christistruth01:
Ukraine has Existed for Centuries

Though Russia and Ukraine were both part of prince vladimir’s Kingdom

prince vladimir was the first to Accept Christianity and have his People Converted to Christianity

He was more Ethnic Ukrainian than Russian but it was his People that Migrated to Russia and took over



Though Ukraine May look Small as far as Christianity is concerned Ukraine is Russia’s Spiritual Father and the even Smaller Greece is the Spiritual father of both of them

It was Apostle Paul and St Barnabas that Converted the Greeks to Christianity

prince vladimir was an indigene Of Kiev

If Russia attacks Ukraine it must backfire because it was Christian Ukraine that gave birth to Russia

prince vladimir ruled the Rus Tribe that the Bible calls Magog

It was prince vladimir’s Rus Tribe that became Ukraine and Russia

The Rus Tribe is in the Bible in Ezekiel 38 and 39


Ezekiel 38:2 NKJV

2 “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, [a]the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him,



Even in African Culture it is very well understood that nobody can attack their father without serious Consequences

Ukraine gave birth to Russia

I think you should rephrase as “ the modern Russian people migrated and expanded from an area In Ukraine. That’s their root, before expanding into current day Moscow”

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Ukraine requested to join NATO not USA forcing them..
Ukraine is a sovereign state and it's against international law to invade a sovereign country for absolutely no logical reason..

And is invading a sovereign state the solution?
No matter how you puppet try to paint it.. Putin is the aggressor here..

Russian Federation feels ownership over Ukraine. It shows in how they treat them..
The reason I see here is cos Putin wants to rebuild USSR with Russia on top. Ukraine being in NATO would be a disaster for Kremlin aspirations while Kyiv is capital of Ukraine and if Kyiv doesn’t want to be friends with Russia - that means Russian myth of big brother will collapse..
Modified:I just read most of this guy's response and I must say he knows absolutely nothing concerning this issue at all..even Putin nairaland puppet are more sound than this buzzo here..*spits*

You even get energy to reply the OP

dawnomike:
Israel seems guilty of what we today accuse Russia of...

Everybody is. Nobody’s hand is clean, even the British and French. But that still doesn’t justify what Putin doing though, nor what Isreal or Saudi is doing too.

DoggoneDogg:
Bomb the viking infidels, Mr. Putin!!

China needs to move into Taiwan and Hong Kong.
North Korea needs to move into South Korea.
Iran and Syria need to bomb Israel ASAP.


Since US/NATO wants to be mad

You’re there in your little hole with your Yeye finger calling for war! If you see war you go fit wait ?