₦airaland Forum

Seerade029:
He's Yoruba.

Don't mind my Isoko brother jare
He is busy claiming Warri because of oyel money
Uhrobo, Ishan, Bini, Isoko etc are one.

darfay:
Ipob ayaya o

How did everyone not notice is an ipob yoot?

Leave me alone this Isoko boy

We should be more concerned with joining Uhrobo and other Ediod group to form Bendel republic

Nwanyiogwashi:
[quote author=Sunshineg5 post=89731605] Hope you know the difference between Natural gas and Crude oil?

You only showed me natural gas reserves

Ok Ndokwa produce 115,000 barrels of oil less than half of what Warri south west alone produce

Warri North also produce over 56,000 barrels a day

1.Please tell me the difference between gas and oil since you don't understand what I post.

2.I only post that of Ndokwa land alone not the whole Anioma

3.let the gas reserve dey there for now

4.if I still add oil in (Anioma) Ndoni of river state

Lol

Post any other region in Anioma that produces any significant crude oil

I challenge with record produced.

Nwanyiogwashi:
this are just Ndokwa land of Anioma

Hope you know the difference between Natural gas and Crude oil?

You only showed me natural gas reserves

Ok Ndokwa produce 115,000 barrels of oil less than half of what Warri south west alone produce

Warri North also produce over 56,000 barrels a day

Nwanyiogwashi: Warri south west produces 460,000 barrels a day. Lagos Ibadan express media abi? Do your search well

Check Escravos aka Ugborodo in Warri South west

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escravos_River

460,000 Barrels per day

Nwanyiogwashi:
Anioma land also have oil too.

Not up More than 60,000 barrels a day

Warri south west produces 460,000 barrels a day.

BrownLondon:
And Sunshineg5 you have to stop claiming warri, we Yorubas are too great to be attaching ourself to small minority tribes.

We ain't Ibos that beg for unity, if you noticed the Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi are the one trying to be with their brothers not the other way round, we shouldn't be the one to beg like the Ibos.
Sir Anthony Enahoro tried everything for Mid west region to be part of Western region.... That's Yoruba greatness.

Stop saying their are Yorubas in Delta, they should be the one to claim us.

Bro I don't claim anyone

The dude I am arguing with is From Jos but a closet Yoruba hater because he lived among igbos. He wants a Middle belt republic and he thinks hating on Yorubas would be the right way to go about middle belt republic.

Needless to say, Ishekiris have never had any say in their future since the time of Western Nigeria in the 60s

Ishekiris didn't want to leave western region to begin with but forced against their own wishes

Ishekiri didn't want to leave mid west but forced against their wishes

Ishekiris never wanted to be Delta state but forced against their wishes

Ishekiri were killed in the 1997 Warri riots over a where the head quaters of Warri south west should be. Their lands taken over by Ijaws.

I believe going forward, should Nigeria break up, the Ishekiris should allowed to decide where they want to belong.

Nowenuse:
Igalas and Okuns (Kogi west) shared boundary until the Ebiras came from Kwararafa and put them asunder.

Look at the map of Kogi state below. There are Igalas in Ajaokuta & Bassa LGAs and there are Yorubas (Oworo) in Lokoja LGA. Tell me how far these places are from each other if not a stonethrow.

If not for Kwararafan colonization, Igalas (Okpoto people) would have been part of the Yoruba nation just like Okun.

Cc 9jakool forgiveness

Well! we also have Nupes between Yoruba and Igala People.

I am not denying interactions with Okun Yoruba people and Igala.

But Igala Have Never Traced any orgin elsewhere than Kwararafa.

There is no historical evidence to back your claims.

Nowenuse:
Yes Igalas who were a Yoruba people were heavily influenced by Kwararafan people & Igbos. The influence was so much that it has made them a distinct people today.

Ebira migration worsened it. If Ebiras had not come to settle in between Igalas & Okun, the gap would not have been wide, cos Okun and Okpoto people (who became Igalas today) were together in the past.

There is a reason why linguists classified Igala language as a Yoruboid language. It is a Yoruba based language. Put your ears down, you will understand it very well. Especially the dialect spoken by Northern Igalas.

Most likely that person you met in camp was from Southern Igala.

Southern Igala has been heavily influenced by Igbo language and culture. They are the ones who speak Igbo as a 2nd language
Many Northern Igalas do not even regard Southern Igalas as pure Igalas.

I have nothing in common with Igala

They trace their origin to Kwararafa

They don't bear any Yoruba names

Let them be

Ishekiri are my brothers and bear same names and more importantly trace their origin to Yorubas.

They even invited Opc themselves.

Seerade029:
Igala language is Yoruboid
70% similarities

I will say 30% to 40% from I am seeing
We and Igala are not the same.

@ Seerade perhaps there maybe some similarities in language

Maybe the way they pronounced theirs was my problem

But we not same with Igalas, they are more closer to igbos than Yorubas

They also share no similar boundaries with any Yoruba tribe

I repeat we are not the same with them.

Nowenuse:
Speak for yourself.
I have heard countless Yorubas who told me they understood like 40-70% of what Igalas were saying.

Igala culture was heavily influenced by Jukun & Igbo, but the language is heavily of Yoruba root.

When I was serving I was actually excited to hear from An Igala friend in camp who told me we have some similar cultural similarities regarding language.

In the end, outside 1 to 10 in Igala language which i merely understood, the rest sounded like a strange version of igbo language to me.


And some Igala actually speak igbo as second language.

I have nothing in common with them.

Seerade029:
Antibot ban my account for posing igala words
I'll type it.

Ok what is your main?

Who is deleting my mentions

Sammy07:
You're right.
Igalas and Itshekiri are Yoruboid languages.
If written, I'll understand them well.

Losing them doesn't mean anything.
At least, they're still yoruboid languages.

They can join us if they wish

Igalas are not Yoruba

We share no cultural similarities with Igala.

You can't hear a word of Igala's language

They don't bear Yoruba names.

Nwanyiogwashi:
At the bold without any real development to show for it?

They can also accuse you igbos in Delta state of using their money to develop Asaba like you often accuse the Yorubas on Lagos.

You people should work out your differences and stop fighting over nothing.

Nwanyiogwashi:
And that may be their last.

And you want them to remain in a State or be part of Biafra over this

They sit on nearly 60% of Delta state oil along with the Ijaws in Warri southwest local government area

Nowenuse:
Lol..... Igala people are originally a people of Yoruba stock just like Itsekiris. Igalas were colonized by Jukun people (Kwararafan empire), just the same way Itsekiris were colonized by Benins.

Igalas became farther from Yoruba unlike Itsekiri simply because the Ebiras who came from Kwararafa settled in between Igalas & Okuns and cut off Igalas from their Yoruba speaking brothers (Okuns).

Outside Ijebus & Ondo people, the average Yoruba person can understand Igala language better than Itsekiri language.
Kwararafan influence on Igalas was just too strong. Much stronger than the Benin influence on Itsekiris.

Mind you, Attah is a borrowed Kwararafan word for kingship in Igala.
Igalas call their Kings ONU just like Yoruba OLU.

That is why you have the ONU ANKPA and ONU ANYIGBA and ONU of all the other Igala towns and not ATTAH.

You Yorubas lost Itsekiris to the Benin, lost Igalas to the Kwararafans and partially lost Ilorin to the Fulanis.

@ emboldened is where I know you don't know what you are saying.

I am from Oyo and partly Lagos and I can't hear a word of Igala language. I can even still manage to hear Ishekiri language a little bit

You have started formulating lies again just to prove a point.

Ishekiri were never conquered as there was no history of any war between Ishekiris and Bini, just like it's the case with Lagos

I repeat Igalas are not Yorubas and have never been Yorubas. They trace their orgin to Kwararafa, While 90% of Ishekiri trace their orgin to Jebu-Yorubas

We are not the same with the Igalas, we don't bear the same names or practice the same traditional religion.

Nwanyiogwashi:
[/s]Deltans beg okowa to step down for Emmanuel because of ibori so is not by their power or population

Even if they cried for okowa to allow Emmanuel to become the governor, it doesn't change the fact that an Ishekiri man has ruled Delta state.

Nowenuse:
Urhobos are the largest in Delta state but by a tiny margin. The gap between Urhobo and Anioma is not wide.
Isokos and Ijaws are on a tie.

Itsekiris can never be close to Ijaws in numbers pls. That is an expensive joke.

At least! Ishekiri were the first to embrace western education amongst the tribes in old Warri.

They have also been elected as the governor of Delta state.

Nowenuse:
You are really trying hard to project Yoruba interests into Delta state. Good of you.
Itsekiris are not up to 1 million in Number. At most 500k.
They are the smallest ethnic group in Delta state among the 5. They can hardly have up to 10% of Delta state. From my calculations, I will give them 8% of Delta state.

And mind you, who are the Yorubas you are talking of in Delta state? Ilajes are settlers in Warri LGAs. Ugborodo people are Itsekiris, they have never denied that. They only reject the Olu crown.



Of course, the day Itsekiris accept being called Yoruba, then that day the whole world accepts it.

Itsekiris knew that they did not have the numbers to compete with the Urhobos, Benins, Ijaws and Aniomas in a new Midwest state, that was why some wanted to remain in the Western region where Awo favored and protected them over others by virtue of them being Yoruba speakers.

Itsekiris are a Yoruba speaking people just like Igalas, but I wonder why Yorubas are not interested in Igalas, but always Itsekiri.

Bruv

Igala don't speak Yoruba

They speak a Language related to Yorubas

Ishekiri are actually Yorubas who didn't develop the modern Yoruba culture promoted by Oduduwa. Their remote location made them borrow culture like those of Uhrobos and Ijaws.

The Ishekiris bear Yoruba names unlike Igala. E.g.
Sola, Wumi, Ayo, Ire

Even Olu is a Yoruba world for a leader which Yorubas also use in Ibadan to refer to their king Olu ibadan (Even though the King of Ishekiri just like king in Lagos has a Bini origin). No Yoruba town calls their king Atta.

Ishekiri practice similar traditional religion as Yorubas called Ebura isese, Igala don't


Ishekiri can be whoever they want to be, but unlike before, let them make the choice this time.

meeky007:
y'all a always pained by d mention of biafra

I hate those trying to rewrite history.

It is not safe for the next generation.

meeky007:
u can teach dat to ur children, maybe I'm d one who drew d map.

Stop Spreading lies

Alternative history built on nothing but lies won't solve any problems expect complicate your future..

You need to learn your own history to be able to make better decisions

Read your true history.

meeky007:
■ When earliest explorers became acquainted with the coast of West Africa, the only organised people they met were Biafrans. No Fulani, no Hausa, no Yoruba only Biafra. This is a time when Ethiopia was called Abyssinia. This is the SACRED land of the Ancients some fools want us to abandon for a man made contraption created in 1914, named by a harlot and legitimised by half-educated black morons in 1960.

Terrible lies

The people the Early explores(Portuguese) met in Nigeria were the Ishekiris, Mahins (Yoruba group in Ondo), Ijebus, Bini and Lagos in the West and Western Niger Delta

While they met the Ijaws, Ibibios and co in the Eastern Niger Delta


Those groups mentioned above were involved in the earliest form of trade with Europeans in West Africa which is the slave trade.

There's no documented history of any silly Biafra kingdom.

Nowenuse:
I was born, bred and lived all my life in Delta state.
The person who created this thread tagged me into this thread to contribute.

Ok bruv your strength should be best saved for your Middle belt republic, let the Ishekiris have a vote to decide where they want to belong when the times come.

Nowenuse:
Itsekiris are like a hybrid.
The majority of Itsekiri people are of Ijebu stock originally, but they were united under one crown by a Bini prince. This gave birth to the Itsekiri identity.
You cannot separate Itsekiri from Benin, cos that is where their royal families descend from.

This is also similar to the case among Delta Igbos and that is why a good percentage of them reject Igbo identity.

How come olu of Ishekiri never wanted to leave the western region.

And Close to 90% of Ishekiri came from ijebu and her not bini

Anyways, unlike before they should be given a vote to determine where they want to belong.

Nowenuse:
Oga pls there are no group of people who identify as Yoruba in Delta state. However, Itsekiris and Olukumis speak Yoruba based dialects, however, they do not identify as Yoruba.

Ok I was the one that brought Opc to Ishekiri land

Ilaje Mahins and Ishekiri are neighbors just like Uhrobo and Ijaws

All those tribe share the lower part of Western Niger Delta.


Anyways, how is this related to Republic of Middle Belt?

And they destroyed someone's hotel based on evidence that they can't make available for everyone to scrutinize.

There was never a country called Biafra before Ojukwu created one.

The bight of Biafra was actually named by the Portuguese who named it after miafra in Portugal as they named Eko Lagos after lagoons.

Another country to name itself based on a similar style is Benin Republic which named itself after the bight of Benin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bight_of_Biafra


Modified

So Sierralone to existed over 400 years ago because I found it on your photoshop map.

Quite exotic I must confess!