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comos:
I now believe that your Oduduwa was actually thrown down from the sky due to his dirtiness.
no wonder your towns are all littered with brown roofs and filthy environment.

I would have taken your hollow words more serious but they are coming from an iPod and Osu caste without history to share with world.

Enahi:
I won't reply you again because you have a foolish brain.

E gba mi o.

Why the unnecessary insult nah?

Instead of you to just answer my questions, you are foaming in the mouth and cursing your lineage.

I am sorry for you.

Is Benin a bini name? What is the name of Benin during the reign of the Ogiso dynasty?

Read up on Aka and Oredo. Now tell me how a Yoruba man named your city Ile-Ibinu ie Bini.

comos:
Go ask Oba Akiolu his linage he will happily tells you is a proud Oba of bini lineage.
you can rant up and down but can not change history.

Yeah, no wonder his name sounds very Bini-ish.

Enahi:
Enough of your nonsense please, Yoruba was never bini's official language I wonder where you are getting all this crap from. Yes there are similarities but it was never the official language.

And stop been a dumbo about the name thing, most old streets in Lagos are actually bini names.

Bini names ko, Bornu names ni.

Abeg park well.


When you have the liver to ask your palace historian about Yoruba being the language of your palace, get back to me.

I never knew Shango, Olokumi, Osun and Ogun are all Bini deities too.

Let us hear you mythology on them.

comos:
I am very regular in the Oba (Benin) Palace, It is Bini language that is spoken there.
for your information, pay a visit to the Oba of Lagos palace and you will see that everything there are replica of the Oba of benin. that tells you that the Oba of Lagos is a descendant of the benin Kingdom. even the chiefs there still bear bini names till date.
Streets in Lagos Island still bear bini names till date e.g Idumota (Idumwun-ota), Idumagbo (Idumwun-Agbo),

You are off point again.

Yoruba was the official language of the palace till the 20th century. Ask your palace historian.

Is Idumagbo not part of the Eko island? How does that confer on you the right to Lagos? Why is Oba Akiolu not bearing your name? He must have been whao-ed by Yoruba names.

Enahi:
Well done o, you and your fake histroy of Lagos.
There are different to history of Lagos and I can see you are using the one that was written by hungry Yoruba Lecturers to claim your right.

Point of correction there was never a time in the history of Edo State that Yoruba was ever the official language.

I still can't stop laughing.

I will take your statement more serious when the Oba himself denies the fact.

For your lesson in history, you need to visit your Oba's palace an let the palace historian lecture you

comos:
you can burn all the candles in this world to provide the answers to your questions.

The bini empire at the height of her peak, stretches up to dahomey. all Yoruba states were conquered including oyo empire.
Their traces of conquest are still present in yoruba-land till date. e.g Ore town (Ondo State) was founded by the binis, Osemawe (oba in ondo) linage are from bini, Eko (Lagos), Ooni of Ife was a bini prince, majority of yoruba's artifact came from Benin palace, e.t.c

I am laughing in jukun and Yorubas are not speaking Bini or Edo or whatever language you guys speak.

You did all that, yet the official language o your palace was Yoruba?

On Eko, I though you should have installed Oba of Eko following the analogy of the drunk chief.

Meanwhile Eko that you conquered had inhabitants there before you came and it was just a small island out of the present day Lagos that includes Epe, Ketu, Ikorodu, Isolo Ebute meta of then.

Even at that, being the owner of your crown makes us th owner of whatever you own inclusive of the tiny Eko.

rotexsky:
This is ignorance of the highest order. Oduduwa was a son of Ogiso Owodo who was ordered to be killed for openly opposing the activities of his wicked father. The executioners let him go and deceived the king with a kid blood stain on their machete. Before they let him go, they warned him not to mention where he came from but rather say he climbed a chain from heaven because they knew if he said so, the executioners would be executed. That is the origin of Yoruba belief that Oduduwa climbed down with a chain. Years past and Benin rebelled against the wicked Ogiso and was a republic for some time. During that time, Benin was exposed to attack within and without due to lack of strong leadership. Benin resolved not to go back to the dark era of the Ogisos but rather chart a new course. During that period, one of the would be executioners confessed that Oduduwa was not killed but rather exiled and they could look for him. They were ordered to look for him and they met him old at Ife. He recognized them and told them he already had his own kingdom established but would let his son Oranmiyan to go with them. Oranmiyan could not rule in Benin because he was brought up under a different culture. He felt Benin people are full of vexation and named them Ile Ibinu which was corrupted the Benin. This Oranmiyan gave birth to Eweka who later became the first Oba. This is the truth. Benin kingdom is the oldest around here and extended to present day Republic of Benin. They founded Lagos as a war camp. One thing that is for sure is that before the advent of Oduduwa, Yorubas existed with some existing kings but Oduduwa prevailed just like the Hausas were existing and had kings before the advent of Uthman Dan Fodio.

Another falacy.

Why do you take permission from Ife before installing the new Oba?

Why are your Obas buried in Ife?

Why don't you have Oba of Eko following your Drunken Chief analogy?

francisbiz:
Stop trivializing issues, people want to learn the truth if it is possible.
He said that in 1942, in Western Regional meeting of Traditional Rulers, no ruler had the title-name OBA except the OBA of Benin, OP charged anyone who cared to know to go check out the Attendance for proof.

Have you made any effort to look for that attendance?
Have you tried to research at all?

OP's points are very BOLD, ASSERTIVE AND VERY LOGICAL! OLUBADAN, ALAKE OF EGBAALAND, OONI OF IFE, ALAFIN OF OYO, ATAOJA OF OSHOGBO etc

Do you have only one Kingdom in Yoruba Nation?

Many kingdoms made up the Yoruba Nation. Hence the title of each Kingdom but they are all Obas ie King. At th apex of the nation is the Ooni as the spiritual Head and Alaafin as the administrative head.

Benin used to have Ogiso has the word for their King, before Eweka Dynasty was established by Oranmiyan.

The toothless lion and lunatic bleaching yellow pawpaw wants to run away, having realise he has been abandoned by noise making ipods.

excellencyabia1:
Using english to decisive people, using pen to write in the whole money.

Wetin this thing dey talk?

No wonder sanity has started entering into that Lunatic Bleaching Yellow Pawpaw's called Nnamdi Kanu, head

Lemon12:
u mean u know history morethan the Oba of benin ?

And what is it that is yours? Bini kingdom?

Oba of Benin has not spoken. We are waiting for him. We cannot be reckoning with the voice of a drunk Chief.

Is Benin Kingdom ours? No. Benin people have been in existence fr time immemorial.

Is Benin Crown ours? Yes, because it is Oranmiyan's crown.

Is Benin Kingship Dynasty ours? Yes, because it is Oranmiyan's dynasty.

But if the kingdom belongs to the Crown, then Benin Kingdom is ours.

Ba turenchi.

Enahi:
I will not waste my time to answer your questions because you are just s tupidd.
Some of your questions are very funny and I can't help but laugh at them.

They are beyond you to comprehend and answer.

When the Oba is man enough to answer all that, we shall take it from there.

I rest my case on this matter.

Lemon12:
"Oba of Benin has nothing to do with the Yoruba Obas. It is simply unnecessary, unless they simply want to stir up an unnecessary controversy. We are not in yorubaland , we are not Yoruba people "

Stop grabbing other people throne with them

We do not grab what is ours. We know the throne is ours.

Go back to the Oba's palace and take proper lecture.

Enahi:
Don't you get that your version of history is different from Edo version. Yoruba has their version while Edos have have their versions.

You can swallow your version and force it down on your Yoruba people but not me. I am Edo and I know all your s tupidd tactics.

I repeat, one of our kings said I the way history recorded it to be..

We are not reckoning with the voice of a drunk Chief. Let Oba of Benin say the same rubbish and incur the wrath of his ancestors on himself and lineage.

When he is man enough to speak we shall take him serious.

Please answer the following:

Why were you taking permission for installation of your kings from Ife, up till the 20th century.

2. Why were you burying you dead kings in Ife, even up till the 20th century.

3. What is the name of the father of Eweka I.

4. What was the name of the dynasty that went into extinction before Eweka dynasty started.

5. When did the following words sneaked into your lexicon - Oba, Benin.

6. Why are you worshipping the Yoruba deities despite the fact that they have no link to your place eg Olokumi, Ogun Osun, Sango and even Ifa.

7. Why was Yoruba language the official language of the palace until recently.

8. As powerful as Oyo Empire and Benin Kingdom were, why was there no attempt by any to conquer the other?

Enahi:
God p urnish you for claiming Edo throne, are you mad or what?

You can even run madder than this if you so wish. The fact remains Oranmiyan disvirgined your princess and he installed his son as your king and that dynasty still stands till today except you can prove that there is another dynasty after Eweka's own.

For now keep getting pissed with the truth.

Lemon12:
[b] Esogban,who is third in command in the palace of the Oba of Benin, said: “We wanted to discard this report as something that was not necessary at all. We do not see how the Alake of Egbaland suddenly woke up to think that the Oba of Benin is also a Yoruba Oba. There is no basis for such classification; Oba of Benin has nothing to do with the Yoruba Obas. It is simply unnecessary, unless they simply want to stir up an unnecessary controversy.


“We are not in Yorubaland. To be frank, it is because many of them are not willing to come up with the truth, the word Oba is alien to Yoruba monarchy; it is not part of their title from time immemorial. For instance, the one they call the Oba of Lagos, these are recent adaptations. In the 50s, there was no Oba of Lagos, what we had was the Eleko of Eko. That is the title of the King there. In Ibadan, you have the Olu Ibadan. You come to Abeokuta, you have the Alake of Egbaland. You come to Oyo, you have the Alaafin of Oyo. In Ilesha, you have the Owa-Obokun of IIesha. So no Yoruba monarch had as part of his titles the word Oba except the Oba of Benin. The word Oba is indigenous to benin only [/b]
Deal with it .... Still waiting for you to call Oba of benin an ipobian

cc enahi

I don't give responses to people that lack history, talkless of an Osu.

mart2k:
Uar speaking my language, u named ur children in my language n uar here saying uar not part of Yoruba. Ar u insane?

They are not part of yorubas as a people. They have been as a distinct people from time immemorial.

However, their throne anfd crown is our throne because that thrown carries our DNA.

Lemon12:
mulattoclaro , spanishkid

Also call the Oba of Benin himself.

He should answer those questions and then we shall take him serious.

His kangaroo chiefs are too little to dabble into such historical questions. Come to think of it, the Chief could have been from the lineage of the Ogiso dynasty that is merely rubbishing the Oranmiyan lineage of the present king.

The day anyone in Oba of Benin's palace can answer these questions, I will take them serious:

1. Why were you taking permission for installation of your kings from Ife, up till the 20th century.

2. Why were you burying you dead kings in Ife, even up till the 20th century.

3. What is the name of the father of Eweka I.

4. What was the name of the dynasty that went into extinction before Eweka dynasty started.

5. When did the following words sneaked into your lexicon - Oba, Benin.

6. Why are you worshipping the Yoruba deities despite the fact that they have no link to your place eg Olokumi, Ogun Osun, Sango and even Ifa.

7. Why was Yoruba language the official language of the palace until recently.

8. As powerful as Oyo Empire and Benin Kingdom were, why was there no attempt by any to conquer the other?

Let me stop here for now.

I will take the drunk Chief serious when the Oba of Benin is bold enough to utter same, when he knows the ancestral curse he will be placing on himself and lineage.


At least one Yoruba Oba was bold enough to voice who Oba of Benin is, he should be man enough to utter the contrary himself, if he can.

Oba means King and the Yoruba nation being a nation of many kingdom, hence the title for the kings eg Alaafin, Alake, Olubadan etc.

What is the meaning of Omo 'N' Oba?

Mi o r'aye oshi jare.

Jesusloveyou:
a simple question to settle dis rift, wo is d father of oduduwa? And who is d first oba that bear d title as oba

Kingship is different from the title of the throne.

Oba means king in all yorubaland but to differentiate which Oba you are talking about, hence the title eg Alaafin, Alake, Owa, Onipopo etc.

There are many kingdoms within the Yoruba nation and all the Obas have hierarchy. The title Oba cannot be used by any king.

Do you know the meaning of Omo 'N' Oba.

Benin can have the title Oba because it is a single kingdom.

The day anyone in Oba of Benin's palace can answer these questions, I will take them serious:

1. Why were you taking permission for installation of your kings from Ife, up till the 20th century.

2. Why were you burying you dead kings in Ife, even up till the 20th century.

3. What is the name of the father of Eweka I.

4. What was the name of the dynasty that went into extinction before Eweka dynasty started.

5. When did the following words sneaked into your lexicon - Oba, Benin.

6. Why are you worshipping the Yoruba deities despite the fact that they have no link to your place eg Olokumi, Ogun Osun, Sango and even Ifa.

7. Why was Yoruba language the official language of the palace until recently.

8. As powerful as Oyo Empire and Benin Kingdom were, why was there no attempt by any to conquer the other?


Let me stop here for now.

I will take the drunk Chief serious when the Oba of Benin is bold enough to utter same, when he knows the ancestral curse he will be placing on himself and lineage.


At least one Yoruba Oba was bold enough to voice who Oba of Benin, he should be man enough to utter the contrary himself, if he can.

Mi o r'aye oshi jare.

Oba of Benin should dispute the fact that Oranmiyan, the son of Oduduwa was the King of Benin and he later left his son to continue the dynasty while he went ahead to set up the Oyo Empire.

Why are the heads of the past Oba of Benin in Ile-Ife and not in Benin?

#dontbebruce with face of Obama and brain of Koro.

Another sensational journalism from ipod an wailers.

Let us see the usage of the words "totally inconsistent" in Sanusi's own statement an not paraphrasing it for him.

He only said of care is not taken, the FX issue might not let people recognise an put emphasis on the good works already down by PMB.

Emir Sanusi, FX can turn to 1000 per dollar, ordinary citizen do not care. We voted for PMB because of his integrity and for him to fight corruption and recover our looted commonwealth and he is doing that already.

Where are the defenders of the corrupts:

Onagoruwa

Ozekhome

Daudu.

Please take this case up and let us see you as responsible lawyers for once.

tuale4u:
all the grammar by IMF means only one thing.

BUHARI SHOULD DEVALUE NAIRA OFFICIALLY TO 250naira to a dollar

That is what IMF want. That is what Pat Utomi want. That is what Sanusi want.

What is the gain of the devaluation?

Will the rate at the parallel market not move up accordingly to accommodate the adjustment of the official rate?

The bottom line is this is the golden opportunity for us to boost local manufacturing activities. This is the opportunity for our SMEs and manufacturing companies to look for substitutes within the country.

We cannot keep wasting our national reserve on consumption. It is insanity of the highest order. Can you imagine, we were using our National Reserve to import tooth pick(what is broom doing), matches, all sorts of sub-standard junks from China.

We are in the right direction, except I can see a superior argument on the devaluation.

Dasuki, the most detribalised Nigerian

The symbol of One Nigeria

The best Santa Claus of all religions

Where in the whole of that transcript of the interview did PMB called Nigerians criminals?

Ben Bruce indeed has the face Obama and the brain of Obanikoro.

G1gbolahan:
Opon Imo is now being adopted in Unilorin now, if you think it adds no value, it is your opinion. How is truancy and indiscipline down to school uniform?? Lol... And then teachers not regularly paid is down to financial issue which I repeat is not Aregbesola's doing. But have a good day

So because Unilorin is adopting it, that translates to its adding of value in the state? Then tell us the value added to the children in clear terms.

If you do not know how the same uniform promoted truancy, let me break it down for you. Teachers were finding it difficult to punish students because they will claim they are not a student of that school. Whenever Man'O'War guys arrest wandering students, they do not mention the name of their schools but the name of another school entirely.

Please tell me how the financial situation is not Aregbe's doing? If he had borrowed minimally, will he be taking negative amount as monthly allocation from Federal Govt?

Tell your lame defense to those in Ojo Oba that do not know their right from.left.

G1gbolahan:
Are you aware that for the second time, Ekiti paid salaries and withdrew them again? Are you aware that Ondo is also owing salaries? Bottomline, while we are trying to put the financial issue down to mismanagement, we should know that it is not limited to Osun and also recognise Osun's federal allocation.
On the issue of the best student in NECO exam, I have nothing to gain coming to tell lies online. Read up here
http://tempoonline.com.ng/news/item/3984-osun-pupil-emerges-overall-best-student-in-neco
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I am not a citizen of Ondo or Ekiti and if their citizens are not bothered with what you stated, what is my own!!!

A more reliable site would have been better for.information than the tempo or crayononline website.