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orisa37:
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Thank you. By their fruits, we shall know them.

Your fruits too are showing.

You are a fundamentalist Christian. Intolerant towards atheists, gays and pagans.


If you were in Christ shoes, you would have stoned the prostitute. You want gays to be treated like animals.

Pharisee.

obonujoker:
These atheist are funny.... what is so difficult for God to do??

A being that created a wonderful creation such as man, that man itself has to copy God's creation (robots, engines etc)...

A being that ressurected a soul...

So what's Jonah fish to him??

The same God that foolishly created Satan and couldnt foresee the damage he would cause to Adam and Eve?

The same God that couldnt find a way to forgive sins without sacrificing his only begotten son?


Your God is impotent

orisa37:
The Philosophers are right. All Atheists are "Mama Bleepers, Anus Hunters and Same-Sex-Blunders". They feel and go: no more rational reasoning before interactions.. The higher they are in the Society, the more Garbage they feed into the Society, the more unreasonable is their approach. Or isn't it irrationally unreasonble for any group to assert that they wrote The Bible without same-sex-marriage, which the World has accepted without blemish till now and that they alone can freely and irrationally rewrite the Bible couched in obscene tongues? They just don't believe anything again. Capitalism, they are redefining, rebranding and reparkaging for us.

Keep quiet if you have nothing sensible to say.

Bible stories do not follow logic

Butterflyleo:
The atheist community on nairaland will not like this news.

Thank God for her deliverance.

We actually like bullshite stories like this. It helps us make our point that religion is mostly lies

Dalamama:
. I tire for the guy.

Butterflyleo:
Yet he said and I quote from another source



He used the word CREATED TWICE and order and rules and intelligence. He was now trying to explain what he meant as a scientist. He made it clear that if anyone implied from his comment that he was referring to God they should know that God cannot be proven or disproven by science since science would not be scientific if it goes outside science.

He only expanded his comment based on the understanding it was given.

He still used the words CREATE and GOD and also slammed science for wanted to prove or disprove God. That's not a rejection of God, that's an intelligent man who saw intelligence behind the universe and rules behind this intelligence. Rules that chance could not have brought about.

Michio Kaku accepts evolution. He is not a creationist. Guy, stop lying. What kind of christian lies 10 times a day without flinching?


Here is Michio Kaku talking about evolution


https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NG&hl=en-GB&v=UkuCtIko798

Dalamama:
The statement insinuated that he's a creationist but he said he was misquoted.

He is a proponent of evolution.

Don't mind butterflyleo the butterflyLIAR!

He thought we wouldnt research his claims.

Scammers always end up being caught because they get too confident in their lies!

Butterflyleo:
Its now obvious that your blindness and lack of understanding are self afflicted. His very words again in quote below

LIES!

That was not michio kaku. He was misquoted. You will forever be a liar.


How can someone say this and still be a creationist?
My own point of view is that you can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God.

"Science is based on what is testable, reproducible, and falsifiable. That’s called science. However, there are certain things that are not testable, not reproducible, and not falsifiable. And that would include the existence of God."

Butterflyleo:
I say he is a pantheist, your fellow atheist has admitted he is a pantheist and here you come claiming deist. Lmao. Go and take several seats you know nothing

Ogbeni, that is not the issue. The issue here is education and creationism. Patheism and deism have overlapping themes he could be one or both.

Deist or pantheist, Michio Kaku is not a creationist. You lied that he was.



Oga, still waiting for your counterargument against the fact that the higher the education, the more likely one is to accept evolution.

Butterflyleo:
Why do you suddenly want me to leave out China when this was exactly what you did when I presented the polls and study for China to you on another thread?

My proof is in the reality same way your proof when I presented the China polls to you was in the present reality.

I have shown you highly scientifically educated individuals who became creationists through their higher exposure to education. Do you deny them as true?

Michio Kaku was the major person who made the string theory very popular and he is well respected in scientific circles yet his high exposures in education led him to creationism. Why didn't your study work with him IN REALITY?

Michio Kaku does not support creationism. The guy is a deist.
https://innotechtoday.com/michio-kaku-clears-god-discovery/

How can someone believe in string theory and then be a creationist? You dey mad?
Your lies never cease.......
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I shall take it that you have no argument against the fact that higher education is positively and strongly correlated with acceptance of evolution. This is because you have offered no proof and also tried to used dishonest tactics;

You have tried to to shoe-horn 3 failed arguments

1. Naming random scientists whom you claim believe in creationism (some of which believe in the opposite) rather than pointing to a study that creates a sample of scientists to research.


2. Bringing in my dismissal of your "christian China forecasts" in order to dismiss the study I brought up. Any forecast over 5 years is highly unreliable. Technology and climate make sure of that. Also a forecast is different from a poll or a study that is relevant in the present.



3. Trying to change the topic and not addressing the study I put up showing that higher education is positively correlated with acceptance of evolution.





checkmate!

Butterflyleo:
A study is a poll. Regarding China a study was done as a poll and I showed it to you. That study was a projection to 2030 based on an observed trend but you would rather discard it and focus on a present situation despite the trend which led to a projection into 2030 and which made them arrive at that projection also capturing the present which you focused on instead.

This is one of the many reasons I keep saying you read but never understand.

And FYI I am not changing the topic. I am simply showing you that you have no idea of what you are even talking about. I could also say that the reality on ground speak otherwise to the claim that the more the education the more the acceptance of evolution after all the renowned late atheist Anthony flew as educated as he was ended up embracing God and creationism. So why didn't your study work with him?

What is this one saying?


Ogbeni. Let us leave China as that is not the topic.

Answer the issue at hand


1. Where is your proof that higher education is positively correlated with creationism?

2. Where is your counterargument for the study based fact that higher education is positively correlated with acceptance of evolution?

Butterflyleo:
Polls are a guide and often not a reality. You said so yourself remember? Remember my talk with you about China and the polls that show China would be the next largest christian nation come 2030?

You instead threw the poll away and focused on what you term was the reality on ground. True or false?

Based on this I should be the one calling you a hypocrite for what you are now saying here but am I doing so?

Not everyone needs to be as childish and myopic as you are you know.

I can still show you your own comments in that discussion that can easily make me call you a hypocrite here and now. Should I do so?

Ogbeni, stop trying to change the topic. The china issue is that you ignored the real statistics. 50 million christians is a huge number but in China, that is less than 10% (A billion people)


The issue here is that it was not even a poll I produced. I posted a study that showed that higher education correlates with belief in evolution. You are running around claiming it is wrong without any proof or logical counterargument.

Is it just me or are pastors nowadays just desperate to keep their sheep in line?


What manner of bullshite is this fake testimony am I reading? The story is fake news abeg

Butterflyleo:
That is not my point and the very next time you call me a liar you will get banned.

My point is that for any poll there is always a counter poll. If you too cannot grasp the understanding of what you read then deal with that deficiency

For every poll, there is a counter poll? So there is no useful or accurate poll in the world?

You dey lie!!!

Dalamama:
The guy is dangerous, he won't ever stop telling lies. His lies are just endless. He mentioned Hugh Ross as an example of a Christian scientist but Hugh Ross is an evolutionists. He even debates young earth creationist like Ken Ham and tells them. That they are wrong. Yet this Butterflyliar is mentioning him.

Chai!!!!

Butterflyleo!!! Your lies are becoming too many. You can't sugarcoat them anymore!

Butterflyleo:
Like I said, you have a hard problem when it comes to comprehension.

Here is an example of what I am saying

https://www.livescience.com/20701-americans-evolution-creationism.html

And here is a comparison of all polls.

http://www.people-press.org/2005/09/28/reading-the-polls-on-evolution-and-creationism/

I really really strongly hope you can understand it when you read it because you clearly find it hard to do so.

My observations is also my own poll. Your observations are your own poll. Everyone has a poll of their own. Its called perception. Something you are obviously too close minded to know about.

Come and see madness! Your lies are affecting your sanity.

We are comparing higher education and belief in evolution. The higher one's level of education, the more likely one accepts evolution- that is what the study found.


You are here showing me polls that a show that around 46% of Americans believe in creationism. How do your polls affect the fact that higher education correlates positively with acceptance of evolution?



Chai! Lying no good oo!

Butterflyleo:
Its obvious understanding of simple statements is a tough hill for you to climb.

Na so.


cc hahn, hopefullandlord, hardmirror, dalam0n et al, this is how you intellectually dominate butterflyleo into submission (please read our previous comments to see the discussion)

Butterflyleo:
Sorry they were atheists and not deists. Your loss not mine.

LEARN TO SEE.......for yourself.

Your herd mentality is what keeps your closeminded.

My opinion is quite honest because it is mine and I know where they are coming from. Call it whatever you want. That's your myopic view.

Guy, your lies are starting to hurt you....you are becoming quite unstable.


Oga, where is your study or research proving that higher education makes on more likely to accept creationism?


In case you have forgotten the lie, here is where you made the claim;

Butterflyleo:
And I showed you that the higher your education the more likely you are to accept creationism since the harmony and order from actual randomness and nothingness would become a silly notion.

Butterflyleo:
you need to stop calling people liars when their opinion is against yours. It shows how shallow you reason.

Studies are everywhere which counter each other and you are hear romancing study.

My observations say otherwise and you can take that to the bank.

LEARN HOW TO SEE.......for yourself!

Butterflyleo:
you need to stop calling people liars when their opinion is against yours. It shows how shallow you reason.

Studies are everywhere which counter each other and you are hear romancing study.

My observations say otherwise and you can take that to the bank.

Even former atheists who embraced evolution recanted it for creationism after they became christian despite their so called levels of academic exposure.

Grow up and stop being childish.

What the hell are you talking about?

Okay, where is your study that backs your assertion that higher education makes one more likely to be a creationist?


Don't just spout your dishonest opinion and point to historical christian scientists who could have been deists/atheists in hiding.

Butterflyleo:
And how does lack of acceptance of evolution restrict educational prowess and growth?



CHECKMATE!

Who argued that lack of acceptance of evolution restricts educational prowess and growth? Where did I say that?


This is how you read things backwards and misfire nonsense arguments.


What I actually said was the fact that higher education correlates with acceptance of evolution.

superhumanist:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2012/01/24/education-directly-correlates-with-acceptance-of-evolution/

The higher your level of education, the more likely you are going to accept evolution.

Butterflyleo:
And how does lack of acceptance of evolution restrict educational prowess and growth?

And sorry its also on record that all those exposures have pushed many to Christianity.

Sorry for your loss.

People like Rosalind Picard , Hugh Ross, Alistair McGrath, Francis Collins, Alexis Carrel - French surgeon and biologist who was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1912, Vladimir Putin - current President of the Russian Federation. YES HE WAS ONCE AN ATHEIST, C S Lewis, Dr Russell Humphreys, etc

CHECKMATE!

This was a truly inept response lacking critical thought.

Butterflyleo:
Still repeating the same nonsense despite the repeated corrections. Are you a robot?

You can't twist your way out of this

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2012/01/24/education-directly-correlates-with-acceptance-of-evolution/


The higher your level of education, the more likely you are going to accept evolution.


The issue you so want to twist is that

1. Neither Atheism nor acceptance of evolution will make you smarter

2. However things that will make you smart (eg eductation, philosophy , exposure) will push you to atheism.




Checkmate

Butterflyleo:
Actually as a fact it isn't. Nobody needs to believe in evolution to be intelligent. Duh.

Exposure to mental stimuli, academic stimuli and intellectual stimuli makes one intelligent and not acceptance of evolution.

What planet are you from?

Red herring. Obfuscation.

What you said has no bearing on the fact that intelligence is positively correlated with acceptance of evolution.

Butterflyleo:
You are sadly in a quagmire of error.

Intelligence improves or evolves based on levels of exposure and is different from the evolution of mankind from a cell or from a fish or from an ape.

You are the one who has no clue what you are talking about.

I'm finally understanding you. You talk nonsense in order to obfuscate when you cannot argue against hard logic.

What you just said has no correlation with the fact that intelligence is positively correlated with acceptance of evolution.

Butterflyleo:
They believe they came from stupid and now that they are homosapiens they now refer to themselves as apes. I wonder why they do not ever think that they could evolve to something more than human?

Kindly keep quiet. You don't even understand the irony you just put yourself into.

You say atheists are stupid because they accept evolution while intelligence is highly correlated with belief in evolution.

OLAADEGBU:
How did New Atheism obtain this identity for itself?
the-four-horseman

1. They use people's ignorance to their advantage.
Most people who attend atheist conferences and events are laymen. Most people who read the books of Harris, Hitchens, and Dawkins are laymen. Most have not taken any courses in philosophy or had formal training in logic. Most are under-educated in the areas of religious studies and theology.

What nonsense is this? Is this projection? Christianity (and other religions)use people's ignorance to further its evangelism.

In fact, higher levels of intelligence are correlated with atheism. The opposite is for religion

Omololu2121:
Neymar wey PSG spend a lot of money on,never do 50% of what this guy don do for Liverpool

I swear. PSG just wasted money. They are at the exact level they were last season without Neymar

budaatum:
An uncaused immovable scientific spirit.

It's like butterflyleo has run away from the thread

Dalam0n:
Christians can never give what they don't have. All they have to offer is empty talk from the beginning to the end. They have NOTHING special to offer in reality but empty talk and imaginary assertions. Butterflyleo is a perfect example and he epitomizes Christianity in all facets.

He is very big liar, he lies all the time, you can not transact with him here and not know about his lying ways. He can't survive without telling lies. Even if you will kill him he can't stop telling lies to promote his faith and promote his posture.

He is a thief and a deciever. He goes to other websites, steal their intellectual property and come here and post them as his, he is notorious for that, even after being caught many times he still does he, he can't stop.

He is a ridiculous and foolish hypocrite. The first time he caught hopefulLandlord engaging in plagiarism, he mocked, discredited, and quickly linked that singular act of plagiarism to his atheisism and tried to insinuate that he did it because he lacked morals as an atheist only for him to be caught shortly after plagiarizing scientific articles from another site (can you imagine) , Since then he has been caught stealing materials and posting them as his many times by different people at different times. He can't stop because stealing is part of his life and hypocrisy is all what he knows.

He'll now come and start his dance of shame to save face by saying that atheist have no right to judge him, because atheist believe in subjective morality (a lie he says all the time ) because there are many atheist that believe in objective morality. But he keeps saying it because telling lies for Jesus is all he lives for.

But you don't even have to go by what type of morality atheist believe in because according to him people that deceive and cheat others(things he said are bad) are without God and morally unholy. He is a deceiver, a liar and a thief, and according to him he is morally unholy.

If his Jesus can not save him then I wonder why he is he claiming that atheist should follow his ways and have a turn around. What in his lying, stealing and hypocrisy will make any sane person want to be like him or try to practice the imaginary superior morality he is offering?

Butterflyleo is empty and as such he can never give what he does not have. He has admitted that he is morally unholy so how can he give what he doesn't have?

If you notice that is how they all are. From naijadeyhia who ended up being disgraced as a fraudster to felixmoron that will insult your family and openly wish you death for mocking his beliefs, same with analice who is very vile and dangerous.

Christians on nairaland generally have nothing to offer apart from empty talk. Take them seriously at your own peril.

In the case of felixomor and emmanystone (analice), theirs is a result of brain damage caused by religion.

Even discussing mundane things with them is hard. They are so shaped by religion that they see everything through a fundamentalist Christian lens