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"I shall release fire and brimstone into your buttocks"


- Pastor Suleiman to Otobo

budaatum:
Butter's god must be a scientific spirit.

A spirit that is beyond time and space.

The two very items needed by science to measure/prove things

Butterflyleo:
So no atheist is capable of refuting the OP

lol....your op is self refuting. There is nothing scientific about your God.

After all, you have forgotten that you clearly claimed that God is fully a spirit?


When does science prove spirits?

Kai, butterflyleo and his lies.

solite3:
Atheism is mental illness

I was just asking since your name rhymes with solite battery

solite3:
you opened a thread to judge and riddicle christians
But this below
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


You should wait for you judgement from The Consuming fire.

Bros, you dey sell car battery?

Emmanystone:
I will be a Christian any where in the world and speak against evil even in Hell. Keep your filth to yourself pls.

Either you are lying or you have never lived abroad. I think you can never understand the position of atheists because you have never been a minority with regards to religion.

Maybe if you lived for over a year in the UK or Germany, you would be more tolerant.

Also, you havent really met atheists in real life. Despite this, you go on full ignorance mode to claim nonsense about atheists without real life experience.

Emmanystone:
Don't mind them. When you speak against their dirty unnatural habits, they tag you hateful. If speaking against homosexuals and homosexuality makes me hateful, then so be it.

If these beasts practice their evils in the comforts of their homes without throwing it on our faces and forcing us to accept them and telling our kids that forcing their dic.ks into each other's anus is right, no one would care, but no, they have to be shouting everywhere insulting people won't accept them.

Nonsense.

The funny thing is that, when you are abroad, you would never have the liver to be homophobic.

Nigerian hypocrites. Why is Nigeria not better than Europe that allows gay marriage?

sonofthunder:
James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Lol. Looking at the backwardness of religious countries, I reject godly wisdom.

Emmanystone:
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Like a coward abi? Well, He is not a Coward. He is patient with you, but you may take Him for a fool for not striking you dead now. Lolzzzz. The thoughts of the Lord are unsearchable and His paths are passed finding out.

And;

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is PATIENT to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2 Peter:3:9

YHWH is patient with you, giving you all your life time to repent, instead you call Him a fool? Oh dear.
Satan deceives you so, but he believes there's God, and that scares him to bits.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Corinthians:2:14.


...the devils also believe, and tremble.
James:2:19.

Why do you think makes satan tremble every time he remembers God?

Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.
Ecclesiastes:8:11

You will wish you didn't say what you just said when you stand before Jesus very soon.

You may think your lifespan is long, you'd be shocked to realize that compared to eternity, 1000yrs is just a blink of an eyelid.

Let me pray for you.

Father, in the name of Jesus, i ask that you look at the sacrifice of your son on the cross and have mercy upon this soul. It's not him speaking, he is just victim, a captive in Satan's hands. Forgive his foolishness and give him an encounter. A fly will do.
Lord, there's no one too dead for you to resurrect, this one maybe dead in sin, but he still breaths your air. In your own way, father reach him, and Like TheSixthSense, open him up to feel your joy.
Shame and disappoint satan once more by rescuing this one from the fire of Hell.

Amen.

Is this not the same God that turned someone into pillar of salt? The same God who sent a fish to swallow Jonah?

Vengeance is mine saidth the lord.


Your God has two sides to himself. Just like a hypocrite

Emmanystone:
You'd be a free man if you had a hand in coming here as human, male, Black skinned, African, Nigerian. If you chose your parents, siblings, tribe, kindred and lineage, if you didn't contribute to any of these, then i laugh at your self delusion.

When you are done here, He who determined all the aforementioned will be waiting for you at death.

Enjoy your rebellion while it lasts.

lol.....Then HE is a fool. Why wait until death like a coward?

JideAmuGiaka:
If you don't want me to pay my tithe to the church, dash me the money and I will pay one tenth of it to any place of your choice.

I continue paying my tithe, your insults won't make me change my mind.

That is the beauty of life. Man is a social animal. Our "insults" might not stop you from paying tithes. However, our insults could change others, including your family and co-workers. When you own family and friends are mocking you over your tithe foolishness, you will change.

Emmanystone:
Everybody is one. If you are not a sheep, you are automatically a goat.

The Seed of satan, whom you are one, are goats.

Go and tell that nonsense to your family. You clearly grew up in an unstable environment.


Superhumanist is a free man.

The man is speaking the truth.

Adeboye really messed up big time. Even Jesus did not mention tithe when talking about heaven.

Butterflyleo:
The laws that govern our universe speak of order and this implies that order gave birth to order because chaos cannot give order.

Light can only give light. It cannot give darkness. What you have is what you give and that is why the law of cause and effect will keep refuting you.

Quantum physics called. It wants to disagree with your notions of chaos and order.

Emmanystone:
My people at home are Sheep, they have a Good Shepherd called Jesus of of Nazareth. But, you have a goatherd as your master, what does that make you? A GOAT.

I am not a sheep or goat. It is your people at home that are sheep and goats.

budaatum:
Gggg102, thanks for engaging with butter on this thread. Know that there are many reading and learning.

After reading that comment from allnaijablogger, it is indeed a blessing that Gggg102 calmly discussed with Butterflyleo.

Anyone can see who the dishonest christian apologist is.

AllNaijaBlogger:
I thought that I am the only one that missed this. It is a shame that some of my fellow christians try to claim science proves religion through deceptive means.

Religion and science are two separate fields. One deals with the physical and the other deals with spirituality

Butterflyleo is a dishonest christian. Just look at how he has been dodging and weaving with mental gymnastics. He is trying to lie that science proves that God is behind the big bang.

Emmanystone:
No, you are not a sheep, but a goat.

Your people at home are goats not me.

Ishilove:
My middle finger to you, Jack. Make like a bee and buzz off!

Huh? Who is Jack?

Butterflyleo:
Who was Alan Guth?

Have they schooled you so much that you resort to questions that do not even relate to the op in any form?

Ishilove:
The top is loose and covers her buttocks, so it is not bad.

It is however inappropriate for the altar because men are visual creatures and will get distracted from the message by the lovely shape and contours of her legs.

I expected your judgemental hypocrisy to show up. Thanks.

Butterflyleo:
Did you just say superior argument?

These are the facts which you are obviously blind to (Mr superior argument)

1) Science says our universe has a beginning

2) Science says our universe came from a singularity

3) Our universe was not existing prior to this singularity

4) An immense energy impacted this singularity which caused the big bang and then our universe came about.

5)This energy was alien to our universe and was so immense, we cannot recreate it in our known universe.

Based on this, IS THE UNIVERSE INFINITE?

WAS THE ENERGY THAT IMPACTED THIS SINGULARITY A PART OF OUR UNIVERSE WHEN IT DID OR IT WAS FROM OUTSIDE OUR UNIVERSE.

Number 1-5 are all false.

The big bang traces the universe's history up till a certain point. It would do you well to stop reading "pop science" for the masses and start reading proper science. The big bang theory is not a conclusive one

There is no true beginning of the universe. If you factor in quantum physics, the big bang theory becomes murky.

Here is an article for you to read
https://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.html

Here is another one pointing to the fact that the big bang is not the beginning after all
https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/09/21/the-big-bang-wasnt-the-beginning-after-all/#2966ba2955df






You should be careful with how you interpret scientific theories

Butterflyleo:
You are clearly confused

Confused? Only a confused person would argue that there is scientific proof for God. Butterflyleo, where is your Nobel prize? How come you havent won an award for such a new discovery.

Butterflyleo:
Good and how does a particle accelerator work

All these questions and arguments.....


Since you have been debating from page 1 about the big bang, did you notice that neither you nor your opponents could link the big bang directly to God?

In short, you have no scientific basis for God.

Butterflyleo:
An eternal universe is not a fact. Where you are spewing this nonsense from is best known to you.

The big bang began when intense energy which is unknown to man and not ever seen in our known universe was impacted on this singularity. Thus the big bang was done and this was THE BEGINNING as science clearly stipulated regarding the origin of the universe.

This energy can never be recreated by us so is regarded as alien to us.

See how you talk nonsense when you are intellectually challenged by a superior argument?

Let's proceed with a simple question.

IS THE UNIVERSE'S FUTURE INFINITE? CAN ENERGY IN THE UNIVERSE BE DESTROYED? WILL THERE ALWAYS BE SOMETHING?

Butterflyleo:
What manner of ancient scientific knowledge do you possess? Scientists using the knowing of the
Cosmic Microwave Background radiation have been able to deduce that the universe has a beginning and here you are still talking about AN ETERNAL UNIVERSE despite how many times I have told you that your nonsense was debunked 50+ years ago.

What manner of nonsense is this?

The energy in our universe is eternal. It will never be destroyed. An eternal universe is a fact.

You are just too dishonest to consider that the past of the universe too is endless.


Furthermore, the universe has no true beginning. What proof does anyone have that the cause of the big bang isn't part of our universe?

The cyclical universe theory points out a flaw in thinking that the universe just started with the big bang.

Butterflyleo:
You are clearly confused.

First you say the thrown balls were the cause and now you are saying they are the effect.

I originally told you that the THROWING of the ball was the effect which itself was a cause to another effect but since infinite regress is nullified we know there was a first uncaused cause.

You are actually now speaking in support of my original position.

However, the origin of the universe has never been said to have occurred after repeated attempts out of which one got it right. That is a talk meant for evolution and not the origin of life. Science postulates that life began from A SINGULARITY.

Bro, infinite regress might even be the right answer. You are just giving a solution to a problem that might already have an answer.


We are in our universe. There is something in the universe. There will always be something in the universe. We could even say that the future f the universe is infinite.

Why cant the past be infinite?

There is also a proposed theory of cyclic universe that depicts the idea that universe undergoes endless cycles of expansion and cooling, each beginning with a “big bang” and ending in a “big crunch.

I just finished reading this thread again and I must say that the intellectual pounding that butterflyleo received at the hands of Gggg102 is impressive.



I don't know who this Gggg102 is but he/she deserves a cold bottle of origin for the calmness in dealing with Butterflyleo's sophistry.

Butterflyleo:
Sorry o but I am not a student of William Craig and never have been. I do my thinking myself. Also do you mean the same William Craig that has thrashed people like the atheist Sam Harris repeatedly and who even Richard Dawkins ran away from when it came to debates?

@ bold;
Only a William Craig fan or fanatic would say that

Butterflyleo:
But you are a herd mentality mumuhumanist

Herd mentality? The irony.

You that copy all of Craig Williams failed arguments?

I have no master not herd that I follow. Thanks