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Meliforme:
Osimhen to Lookman: It is not all about goals, it is about teamwork.
Simeone to Lookman: We acknowledge your goals, however we are more concerned about your overall performance.

If the idea conveyed is still lost on you, then i wash my hands comot your matter.

oga your premise was wrong from the start. Osimhen was angry with bruno for not passing and lookman only intervened. His sin was telling Osimhen to relax that he has scored already. Osimhen never accused lookman of been selfish, there clash was on the thing said during intervention.

Lookman still has one of the highest assist rate among our forwards. THe thing is you dont liste to people, just fixated along your line of thought and its prejudice.

Miggs:
It truly is embarassing
I have some foreign acquaintances including white folks who have asked me severally why Nigerians love Trump and far-right personalities so much.
I am always lost for words

if you notice, its mostly igbos and some brainwashed christian fanatics who ignorantly think they are defending Christianity, not considering it would affect, alienate and terrorise millions of Christians who are non white and also Americans

komekn:
Let's get over the Nigerian thing.

You are not 🚫 more patriotic and or Nigerian than me.

It would have been more helpful if you were specific about players and the claim of prejudice. (Prejudice is an irrational unfair dislike, negative, bias against an idea or persons.)

I am not emotive sentimental and or inclined to blatant favouritism. I do not create a set of variables excluded from the general accepted standards in football ⚽ to assess Nigerian players in exclusion.

It's been claimed by several delusional devoid of rational misguided contributors. That I dislike VO , I simply don't think he is world class.

When he was younger at Wolfsburg I said he need to reinvent himself, get a footballing education and development in a lower league and club to get him career back 🔙 on track. I said that over 7 years ago.

Many called that HATE but that's exactly what he did to get where he is now. That's practical constructive criticism and repositioning it's positive not negative.

From the onset I said Chukwueze was all flash and dribbling with no end product. I remember I compared him with Jadon Sancho and Saka many screamed 😱 he was better than those players and called it HATE of Nigerian players.

KC I said was over hyped 😞 many said he was the best in Europe that he was better than Mbappe and Gabriel J., I said he was a poor quality quintessential number 9 and he didn't have those attributes. I even said Solanke who was doing nothing at Liverpool FC was a better fit for a Number 9. I said the true test will be when he leaves the Manchester city who made him look much better than he was.

He left Manchester city , Leicester city bought him to compete with Vardy as a quintessential number 9. Well he failed comprehensively one good season in Leicester the rest well below 👇🏿 average. He failed in the championship and is now in Seville doing what 🥴.

Would you call that prejudice and HATE or just outright measured objective appraisal no sentiment involved.

I called Isaab Success a DISGRACE a waste man he even got overweight and was fighting prostitute's in a hotel in London. His football ⚽ abysmal.

I had not time for the Iroko tree that Sadiq Umar his atnics in Glasgow rangers very poor. He is now in LJ a Liga doing what 🤔

Finally the big one to crown it all Nwakali the solution player for the Nigerian midfield. What a big joke 🤣

Tell me one British Nigerian origin player that I have mentioned that once he wasn't performing l mentioned again. Players like Iorfa, Aneke, Onyedinma, Oviemuno, Onomah, etc Surprisingly all these players have done or are doing much better than Nwakali.

Nwakali is in Barnsley FC has made the bench once in 7 games is yet to play a game for the club. I did say Nwakali midfield maestro Will not make it in a League one team.

I think there is huge unbridled blatant bigoted double standard and hypocrisy here.

I am involved believe it or not with English football ⚽ with coaches, clubs , players, managers, agents, recruitment heads, etc and so that perspective is going to reflect in my deductions. That is not prejudice and bias just informed objectivity.

I get your point. I understand better your view of things.

MainJoe:
The EPL player has history with England. It is easier to market him. This is basic knowledge. It is easier to market Kaden Braithwaite to an English Club than market a Nigerian born super star to England.

The coach has made his explanation clear as daylight. He is talking about Kelechi Nwakali not fitting into the ENGLISH GAME (KICK AND RUSH FOOTBALL). Kelechi Nwakali was never built for that kind of football.

Finito.

Really shameless. So KC cant fit in the English game because its kick and follow. How come he couldn't fit in the Spanish and Portuguese league enough to get a decent team??. It takes a bigger man to accept when he doesn't get it right...but lesser men will continue to hold on to their delusions till they go under.

komekn:
You seen quite balanced and I am not a public figure that requires fans.

Can you tell me where I am prejidiced please

For one, you seem to have a prejudice about Nigeria and anything that comes from it. You denigrate Nigeria and nigerians at any opportunity so it is expected it will affect homegrown footballers. You prejudicially inject your version of politics and governance in this sport thread so many times when its unnecessary.

You have a right to your opinions, but believe it or not many of your opinions are based on prejudice. I am not a man of many words, so i wont argue or prove anything in a back and forth... you can take it as my opinion...so nothing spoil. Regards

komekn:
I remember very clearly how you used the misinterpretation of statistics to mislead and misinform .

You did this with your midfield maestro Nwakali shamelessly for 5 years non 🛑 stop . He is the best midfielder in the Portuguese first division you claimed.

Trying to elevate your emotive ego based supposed analysis as quality objective appraisal.

You did similar with KC the most lethal and best finisher in Europe you once again spuriously claimed.

This was played out again for several years even with the preponderous of overwhelming facts to the contrary. You kept going with this blatantly false narrative.

You have started with Ejuke again, a player continuously dribbling without end product amounts to wind and fresh air.

I know you have your cheerleaders who actually believe the nonsense you push out from your twisted imagination. So you will probably not 🛑 stop it's in your DNA 🧬.

hmmm....as a casual observer over the years on this thread i cant fault this comment.

I am not a fan of Komekn and i think he is prejudiced on many fronts, but you cant deny the truth in this comment .

Nwakali was pushed as the maestro and the solution to the elevation of the SE, but logically, his career and progression never supported that assertion. Many people on here are pushed by emotions and ego...

Amedino99:
you've seen komekn call professional footballers wastemen but aribo seems to be your limit.

Didn't know this was about Komekn and the subtle battle going on here...i just found calling for the sack of a prominent member of our national team to be distasteful

ChrisKels:
If Southampton are really serious and want to remain in the EPL, then they have to do away with deadwoods like Aribo. They need to get really good players because players like Aribo can never keep them in the EPL.

This guy just likes to talk anyhow. For a guy thats a stalwart of this thread that seeks to promote nigerian football, this is some crass talk about a national team player. Agreed Aribo might have lost some form, how about encouraging and urging him on to improve.

A player that was good enough and performing in the highest level to get noticed and invited to SE, now a dead wood and should be sacked from a team he obviously helped in achieving ptomotion to the prem...shows a dark minded individual

You are just here for cruise and not a love for Nigerian football or its footballers. Thats why i mind my saniity and just read and pass on this thread most times...but this discrepit post was too hard to just read and pass

komekn:
You are being one sided.

TheGoodJoe is a gentleman most times and you will not see gutter language and vitriolic rhetoric coming from him.

However, TheSuperDelusional one is completely different his over inflated ego and style of consistent abuse to anybody who doesn't agree with him his there for all to see.

Abuse and lies should not be served here continuously by some.

Sugarboy is not exonerated but you cannot be accusing somebody of abuse and denigration in isolation. And then pretend others are saints.

That's selective and biased and far from fair, bad 😔 behaviour, abuse and gutter language should be condemned irrespective of who does it.

This is correct....for some of us who just read and pass

sureleads:
Chief you are saying different things oo.....

You agreed with those who are saying she is very poor and unreliable. Very poor and unreliable means not good enough, plain and simple.

Can she improve??,,definitely. Every player can and needs to improve. You are sugarcoating it now to make it look you guys want her to be the best...but those you agreed with are painting a picture of Oshoala as a deficient player, just lucky due to the Barcelona team and doesn't even deserve all that.....they were even supporting and justifying she should be benched, left out or replaced in Barcelona and the national team.

Is that who you now say you wanted her to be the best? thats you guys covering your hate in disguise. She has attracted so much respect to the NT and the country and she totally deserve our respect and support.

It is the irony for me....a player you guys are saying is deficient, very poor and unreliable at striking, keeps topping the scoring charts and getting nominated as one of the world best,,,shows you guys dont know what you are talking about.

Harping on missed chances, those that are not missing chances, why are they not outscoring her??. As it is now, she is one of the best in the world. You and those you agree with have been condemning her relentlessly, painting her as a natural poor player and over dramatizing her misses

Imagine the insult of saying a decorated striker needs to get a personal striking coach cos she is so poor...so how did she become a decorated striker in the first place.. In China, In International Competitions back to back, and in Spain back to back { before you guys say she is only enjoying Barcelona grace}.She ended up in Barcelona at the first place cos she is that good.

Imagine the stomach turning insult...if she reads the takes of you and those you agree with, she will regard you guys as stupid and haters..and she will be correct

Oga, what she needs is just to be completely injury free, play consistently for a while to regain full fitness and sharpness and she will be back to her best. If you are objective at all, this is what you will see than just been myopic and see only her misses in front of goal

Repeating that line of converting chances and percentages over and over again is childish and highly subjective...there are no stats to back it up but your personal opinions and your imaginations ...please stop with that. strikers are judged at the end of the day with number of goals against the number of matches played...at the end of the day, she tops the scoring chart and ratio...year in, year out,

From front page., a real informed opinion goes thus'


[b]Likewise, Oshoala has earned her nomination in the female category due to her exceptional contributions to Barcelona Femeni and the Super Falcons.

In the 2021-22 season, she emerged as the top scorer, amassing 20 goals and providing four assists in 19 Spanish Liga F appearances.

In the 2022-23 season, Oshoala continued her impressive form, tallying 21 goals and three assists in 28 domestic league appearances and adding five goals in all nine Women’s Champions League matches.

Despite facing challenges of low match fitness, she made a significant impact at the Women’s World Cup by scoring a crucial goal against the Australian Matildas, securing victory for Randy Waldrum’s team.

Oshoala is now eyeing the 2023 Women’s Ballon d’Or, competing with other football stars who have excelled in their respective leagues and countries.

Both Osimhen and Oshoala have brought pride to the Nigerian football community with their outstanding achievements, giving fans plenty to cheer about.[/b]

Deltamani:
I didn’t say she didn’t deserve been selected or nominated for the Award, All I’m saying is she isn’t Clinical in front of goal and need to do more so she can be the best or top3 among the elite Finishers. She misses allot of Chances which the fans are complaining about..

So you think if Oshoala gets 50 chances for example and Converts 30 to 35 of them i would complain? Never 👎

Chief you are saying different things oo.....

You agreed with those who are saying she is very poor and unreliable. Very poor and unreliable means not good enough, plain and simple.

Can she improve??,,definitely. Every player can and needs to improve. You are sugarcoating it now to make it look you guys want her to be the best...but those you agreed with are painting a picture of Oshoala as a deficient player, just lucky due to the Barcelona team and doesn't even deserve all that.....they were even supporting and justifying she should be benched, left out or replaced in Barcelona and the national team.

Is that who you now say you wanted her to be the best? thats you guys covering your hate in disguise. She has attracted so much respect to the NT and the country and she totally deserve our respect and support.

It is the irony for me....a player you guys are saying is deficient, very poor and unreliable at striking, keeps topping the scoring charts and getting nominated as one of the world best,,,shows you guys dont know what you are talking about.

Harping on missed chances, those that are not missing chances, why are they not outscoring her??. As it is now, she is one of the best in the world. You and those you agree with have been condemning her relentlessly, painting her as a natural poor player and over dramatizing her misses

Imagine the insult of saying a decorated striker needs to get a personal striking coach cos she is so poor...so how did she become a decorated striker in the first place.. In China, In International Competitions back to back, and in Spain back to back { before you guys say she is only enjoying Barcelona grace}.She ended up in Barcelona at the first place cos she is that good.

Imagine the stomach turning insult...if she reads the takes of you and those you agree with, she will regard you guys as stupid and haters..and she will be correct

Oga, what she needs is just to be completely injury free, play consistently for a while to regain full fitness and sharpness and she will be back to her best. If you are objective at all, this is what you will see than just been myopic and see only her misses in front of goal

Repeating that line of converting chances and percentages over and over again is childish and highly subjective...there are no stats to back it up but your personal opinions and your imaginations ...please stop with that. strikers are judged at the end of the day with number of goals against the number of matches played...at the end of the day, she tops the scoring chart and ratio...year in, year out,

Deltamani:
I believe those persons ain’t lying cause Asisat[b] Finishing has been her major setback injuries aside[/b]… If she can convert half or more than half of the chances she gets I bet she should be winning the Ballon’d’or or better still finish top 3..

Again I haven’t seen anyone here saying she isn’t good but Poor in finishing even though she ends up been Barcelona Top Scorer at the end of the seasons..

So those persons aint lying?? ok

So if her primary role as a striker is to finish, and she is so poor in finishing...then she has to be poor at her job. Then, how come actual professional football players and coaches and experts see her as one of the best in the world, where there are literally hundreds of strikers from all across the world, and the best especially in Africa

How can someone you say is very poor and unreliable at finishing { so much so that you think she needs to be taught how to finish by a personal trainer}, be acclaimed as one of the best in the world { by actual proffesionals} essentially as a finisher??

Deltamani:
At 28yrs she still have years ahead of her to play at the top Clubs in the World, Maybe she should get a personal Coaching to work on her Finishing so she can increase her tally at the end of each season…

I swear if Oshoala da convert at least 60/70% of those chances she should be getting 40 to 50 goals a season

OK sir,,

Just one quick question. So, if as a striker which she is, and she is so poor at her job of striking, so much so that she needs a personal trainer as you advised, how come she is been selected AGAIN as a balon dor candidate...essentially one of the best in the world at her trade,,

Please help us understand sir

Deltamani:
Asisat Oshoala has been nominated for the 2022/23 Women's Ballon D'or! 💙❤️🇳🇬🦅

Na so....yet some self deluding armchair popcorn munching, pseudo soccer experts will not stop disturbing us to believe that she is poor in finishing and not reliable at all.If they call them haters, they quickly deny and take offence. I guess the real soccer experts who keep nominating her back to back are blind and thoughtless.

Or maybe our so called in house, self claimed intelligent analyst need to take a sit, shut the hell up, and learn.

Deltamani:
Okay okay… See Maureen Umeh has been in the Age grade set up of the National Team before she left to Turkey at 19yrs, If she isn’t good enough I don’t think she would get such chance of earning a Call up talk more of moving abroad.

She’s such a Complete Central Defender with a great Height Advantage one of the reasons she’s been labeled as Nigeria🇳🇬 Wendie Renard. The qualities of a top tier CB is there, Strong and Aggressive got nominated as one of the Best Defender In🇹🇷 in her first Season earned a move to France D2 side US Saint Malo where she played last season before moving on to Nantes FC..

We shouldn’t forget what we call Opportunity also and I believe she will definitely take her chance in the SuperFalcons when the time comes..

I personally appreciate your efforts on this thread as you have enriched it abundantly. As for the players, the more quality players available, the merrier

What is vexatious is when some people make ridiculous comparison based on bias...trying to pitch a player against another. using illogical yardstick. They can all shine without trying to diminish another light..especially when its not justified at the remote instance..

Hope she comes good

ThePresenceWtf:
I usually refrain from using certain languages on here or even replying people...But What an Idiot!!! Please switch on the lights every now and then...It'll really pay off!!

Lol .....wonder who the idiot is...you made a claim out of just watching only 20 sec of highlight from a div 2 match that was preposterous and foolish. The odour of that pungent claim forced me to fan it out.

And what is it with the confused statement that you" usually refrain from using certain languages on here or even replying people...But What an Idiot!!!".If you are going to cry after your takes are corrected, then you should think thoroughly before making your postulations public

You actually need to switch the lights in your brain on...its pitch dark in there at the moment

Kibbs:
lovewins, I know you’re different from me but I’m definitely not one to reply or engage dimwits. I know an intelligent person when I see one and he’s not worth wasting your time on or attempting to educate.

His brain is filled with insults, not logic. Just leave him be and add him to the list of the blacklisted monikers on the thread. Everytime he extorts a reaction from you, it’s a win for him. Don’t give him or his brothers that.

Hypocritical mumu...you are feeling funky on a faceless platform. In one breath, you accuse someone of insults and in your first sentence, you are calling yourself a dimwit. i can see how intelligent you are. Him and his brothers.? you are tripping.

i give off the energy i receive....

BascoVanVeli:
Last I checked this is a football thread not a cult so I can form my own opinion. The fact that everyone has the same opinions doesn't mean I have to conform.

Its not even everyone here that thinks like that.....just a few vocal ones that are happy to throw a fellow country woman who is in a vintage position under the bus, instead of encouragement and support....calling for the club to bench and replace her, just as she is trying to build herself to full fitness. A place she has proved herself already

lovewins:
This is the last time I'll engage you. You obviously can put your emotions in check and have intelligent arguments. Your pronouncing me a hater doesn't make me one. You were so blinded by your rage you cant even see that I clearly stated "injury didn't help". Did injury also affect her at Arsenal? BTW, read my last post, the argument wasn't even is calling into question her illustrious career, the conversation is centered around her missing chances which is recent.

It's obvious you're impossible to reason with. It's bye from here.

hmm...okay. Talking about intelligent arguments. At least we both agree that she has an illustrious career, which is not by chance but by her prodigious goal scoring talent.

And you are stating that its just a recent thing, last 2 years to be precise, that she has been losing chances abysmally. wouldn't it make a more viable argument that her lack of fitness and consistency, due to recurring injuries happening to her might have been affecting her.. An objective critic would have been to hammer on her playing regularly and hopefully without injury so she gets back to her full self...

But all you have been doing is calling her talent to question, pulling her down, and hoping she gets replaced ASAP...because she has been losing too much chances according to you..somebody that have proved herself as a prolific goalscorer, wit well known injury and fitness problem

You should look in the mirror if you are looking for an emotional critic. A prolific goalscorer suddenly dont know how to score goals?
it doesn't take too much intelligence to know why she might be having a bit of cobwebs in her game.

All she needs is consistency and full fitness to get back to herself fully...we shouldn't be putting our own down

lovewins:
It's obvious you don't even follow the career of the person you so vehemently "defend". Oshoala didn't have the best of time in England. She scored a total of 3 goals for Liverpool (injury didn't help) and scored a total of 2 goals with Arsenal. Her not too good spell is what informed her move to China where she had a fantastic season (where she was top scorer) that helped facilitate her loan to Barcelona after which they signed her permanently. So your claim isn't exactly far from the truth. She also didn't win the pichichi back to back, she's only won it once which she shared with Geyse.

Oga u are just a hater. Despite missing two months of the 2015 season for liverpool with a knee injury she still scored three goals in the nine games. a whole two months out. Its even remarkable that its her first experience abroad, straight from Rivers Angels.

lovewins:
Only small minds resort to insults to make their arguments. I'll give the benefit of doubt that you aren't the moniker I think you her hence this response (I usually don't respond to people who resort to insults.

First, the conversation has context. Your moniker is new and you aren't a frequent contributor here, so the ideal thing will be to observe before butting into conversations you know next to nothing about. Everyone who expressed critical views about Oshoala's finishing (myself inclusive) her one of Oshoala's biggest promoters. You can do a quick search of Oshoala on the platform going back the last 2 years and you'll see that. Many of us watch her play every weekend and are some of her biggest defenders on the YouTube stream when she's subjected to attacks (some valid) by Barca fans. So to reduce valid criticism to being hateful or being "not sound upstairs" is being pedestrian and unintelligent at best.

I think it's fair to ask, how many Barcelona femini games did you watch the last 2 years? Not highlights, full games? I don't want to argue with someone who obviously doesn't watch games and only resort to stars to argue.

Barcelona femini is a free scoring side. They create the most chances probably of any female football team in Europe. Oshoala putting up the number she does is a consequence of that and noc necessarily because of anything spectacular she does. It's why she's found it difficult to replicate same at the national team cause the Super Falcons is obviously not Barca. This isn't an attempt to take away from how good a player she is, it's just saying things the way they are.

Just to give context Barcelona being a free scoring side, in the 2022/2023 UEFA champions League Oshoala scores 5 goals total, but so did Aitana. Geyse, Rolfo, Patri and Mariona all had 4 goals. In the 2022/2023 Liga F Oshoala scored 21 goals, ut we had at least 4 other members of the team with double digits number of goal. (Salma 11, Pina 10, Aitana 10, Graham Hensen 11).

In 2021/2022 Liga F season, she was joint top scorer with Geyse as they both scored 20 goal each. That same season however, Barcelona had at least 5 others scoring double digits (Putellas 18, Martens 17, Hermoso 16, Pina 15, Aitana 13). In the champions League of same season Oshoala scored 1 goal with Alexia leading scoring for Barcelona with 11 goals. Hermano and Aitana both had 5 and 4 goals respectively.

I wish I had access to data that shows the number of chances that led to these goals to give a better picture. Point is, Oshoala is definitely a good played and everyone here roots for her, but if is fair criticism to say she's been terrible when to comes to converting chances. The fact that she's scored 20 goals the last 2 seasons doesn't change that.

You are just been hypocritical. U made subtle insult and denigration in ur first reply and even in this reply, yet u claiming moral high grounds,

You have written a whole lot, and still dont get the point. you say she is very poor in terms of finishing, but she outscore her teammates mostly. You now claim its because barca create so much chances...pray tell, is barca the only team she gas played for?? and if her team mates are actually scoring less, even as injury limited her appearance this past few season, does that not mean her teammates are bad finishers too

During the 2019-20 season, Oshoala scored 20 goals in her 19 appearances for Barcelona. what her the goals and appearance effort of the others. she was named as the best player at the 2014 FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup and was the top goalscorer at the tournament with seven goals. went to China won top goalscorer again. and you say she has a weakness in finishing??


African Women's Championship Golden Ball: 2014
African Women's Championship Golden Boot: 2016
FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup Golden Boot: 2014
FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup Golden Ball: 2014
Primera División Top scorer: 2021–22
Chinese Women's Super League Top scorer

if you still say she has a fundamental flaw in finishing then you will not be so bright, cos all those other strikers,,,which by the way are many, and dont have flaws according to you, dont have her scoring records, she has been prolific everywhere and way back,,,so to put it on barcelona is quite jejune

CoolJulian:
You always rush to defend her. Does it mean everyone else notices this weakness of hers but you? Could it be that they all are just hating on her?

So her weakness is poor finishing, yet she is top scorer in major competitions and league from her youth days till now. In different countries and back to back pichichi in arguably the strongest competition in the world..make it make sense please.

and please, dont allude to her speed cos we have many players faster than her in both the male and female game who are not prolific goalscorers..

lovewins:
Lol

I am laughing seriously as I type this. The first thought that came to my mind as I read that comment was this sounded like the other guy I promised not to respond to again. To see someone else think the same was amusing. I won't even engage cause it's obvious they don't watch Barcelona like many of us here do. You can love Oshoala and root for her while at the same time make objective comments on her performances.

mad men laugh at themselves all the time, no pun intended. just like oga Basco alluded, u said same nonsense that her finishing is poor last season, yet she was one of the top scorer AGAIN in the league. if not even the top scorer in the team....are you now saying the whole of barca or even the spanish league dont know how to finish? u can see how ridiculous you sound when you hyperventilate about her missed chances. She is not the only striker in that league and the spanish league is one of the strongest, if not the strongest league, yet she has continuously claimed top scorer over and over again...except logic is alien to you....then it means if her finishing is poor, and she is top goal scorer, what does that say to the rest of the strikers in that league....

except maybe your judgement is laced with bias, or you are generally not sound upstairs...