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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by tamudabu: 1:39pm On Dec 06, 2022

LordReed:
LoLz! 2 people that cannot quote a single post? Why is that anytime you guys are asked for evidence for a claim you are making you fold like a bad hand of poker?

Sounds like making things up to believe and hoping you'd believe too my Lord.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by tamudabu: 1:37pm On Dec 06, 2022

Aemmyjah:
What is this one saying sef?

If you listen carefully you might surely hear.

Aemmyjah:
Children tend to imitate or listen to their parents but it is better for them to make up their own beliefs too.

It is true that children imitate or listen to their parents but it is not better for children to make up their own beliefs, and children will not make up their own beliefs unless they "imitate or listen to their parents" making up beliefs.

I find "making up beliefs" to not be an efficient surviving skill and definitely not a skill to make one prosper in this 21st century we live in, myself. One sure needs more than a made up beliefs that there would be light just because one says "let there be light". I mean, we Nigerians believe, but Nepa, don't we still?

Aemmyjah:
A child ask a parent about God, you can't teach them what to believe but let them first know YOUR conviction.

Aha. Now you've hit the nail on the head.

You see, in your initial post you presented the "conviction" of a mummy and a daddy from a joke you read many years ago "but let us imagine it was real life", and now you are making up beliefs that those imaginations are my own convictions for some odd reason.

For all it's worth, if my child believes, then it must not have imitated or listened to me its parent, for it is my conviction to teach my child to use it's own senses to ask and knock and seek with all its heart and soul and mind and being and time instead of believing.

Open your eyes and look for yourself and see so you may know, is my child's first and forever lesson.

Aemmyjah:
Using simple illustrations and thought-provoking questions will help the child.

Teaching the child to ask and knock and seek with all its heart and mind and soul and being will help it a lot more than giving a child things to believe. Giving a child the tools to fish profits it more than giving it fish.

Aemmyjah:
Personally, right from infancy is when I'll teach my child spiritual things but time is coming when he might begin to question some of those things. At that point,that is when he needs to convince himself.

So, you will teach your child the things that you "might begin to question some of those things" instead of the things that you have questioned and now know?

How are you sure you are not teaching your child the things that are wrong when you yourself have not even yet begun to question some of those things?

Personally, I don't teach my children spiritual things. I teach them that 2+2=4 and to use their own senses to ask and knock and seek instead of convince themself that things they make up and believe are true. The benefit is that their iron sharpens my iron.

Aemmyjah:
Even science says that he mind of a child is like a bucket waiting to be filled.

So Hard Times, lol.

"Now, what I want is, Facts. Teach these boys and girls nothing but Facts. Facts alone are wanted in life. Plant nothing else, and root out everything else. You can only form the minds of reasoning animals upon Facts: nothing else will ever be of any service to them. This is the principle on which I bring up my own children, and this is the principle on which I bring up these children. Stick to Facts, sir!’"

Science says no such nonsense, Aemmyjah, since that ignores the minds superpower to process and invent. At the least.

Aemmyjah:
Children that are thought religious values tend to do well but leaving them that way will exposed them to wrong teaching

Depends what you mean by "religious values". Does that include, wipe your bum when you poo, and wash your hands, and brush your teeth every morning and after every meal and before you go to bed, and respect others, and say please and thank you and don't kill and don't steal and don't covet your neighbours wife and love one another and develop all your senses and use them to ask and knock and seek with all your heart and mind and soul and being, and read books and 2+2=4 and exercise regularly to begin with?

If so, then I agree, though they are not "religious values", but do well in life skills and values. After all, a child that learns "By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground", is likely to do better than one that prays to God for their daily bread", and most non-religious people would need to teach "by the sweat of thy brow" to their children since they can not teach them to pray to God.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 4:22am On Dec 06, 2022

IjeBos:
I wonder if it's more a problem of leadership than anything else. I think Nigeria may too fractured a country. And people are comfortable with the condition, comfortable eeking out a life rather than the potential of a sacrifice. Whatever happens in Ukraine, their people have impressed me at the level of their sacrifice for their country. I always wonder, could that be Nigerians?

I think it's more a problem of followers. Most are like magas, I'm sorry to say, and would rather follow a nump, a Nigerian dump, than a saint. We'd likely treat the saint like we read Jesus was treated and elect the thief instead.

And education is the solution. And I commend you here for trying though many can not learn it would seem. But these things take generations. I just imagine when we here are dead and our children take over digging through the archive. You'd get it if we were here reading what our parents might have written if they had the opportunity we have.

A bright Nigerian future is what I see, though the road there will be very bumpy indeed.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 4:13am On Dec 06, 2022

saxywale2:
Nigeria as a country has huge potential, but I think we went on a wrong path when the country changed from the Parliamentary to the Presidential System. I heard of how good they had it back then. Up till now, alot of sub-Saharan African countries and the black race in general all over the are still looking up to Nigeria to wake up from it's deep sleep.

I heard no such thing myself. What I heard is we all so disagreed and ended up killing each other in a civil war.

It's not the system that causes us to "deep sleep". We just have not evolved to organise and unite into one country yet because we have not begun teaching that we ought to and circumstances haven't made us. If say Second World War Germany attacked us or Russia attacked our Ukraine we might decide to fight for our country, but at the moment, in the non-existence of external foes, we must still fight amongst ourselves instead of the things - no light, insecurity, corruption, ill-funded schools, women and children's rights, ignorance - that we should fight to eliminate.

We must first wake up from our deep sleep to wake up others but I'm sure you see how hard it is to awake basilico.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by tamudabu: 4:00am On Dec 06, 2022

Aemmyjah:
You are funny
Note that reading is unlike those days
Young ones don't like to read
If your child is not seeing evidence that his dad has faith in God or in prayers, will you give him books to learn what to believe or not?

Reading is unlike what days? We are talking about the daughter I gave birth to that I was reading to while she was in the belly, right?

Are you suggesting a Christian me would not read my Bible every day with my family, and as my daughter grows not let her read it and various other books too and therefore learn to read? If so, I wonder which part of "In the beginning was the Word". Or do you think an atheist me would not make my daughter read the Bible and other books so she knows what's in them so no one can deceive her to believe what she shouldn't?

If you think either of those then I strongly suggest you advise me not to have the daughter until I perhaps read some books myself because I can assure you that after she reads she will not have faith in prayers but faith in her ability to get off her ass and work for whatever she wants and accept what some would call God's grace instead of placing her faith in prayers.

I would never give my child what to believe because I can give her the ability to ask and knock and seek for herself and gain understanding too.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by tamudabu: 11:44pm On Dec 05, 2022

Aemmyjah:
You know how atheists de do na
They are like drunk people
Sometimes they clash without realizing

Like Baptists and Methodists and Anglicans? Please note the below.

triplechoice:
It appears you have been listening to people who really can't explain evolution theory in a way you can understand it.

cc: Dtruthspeaker:

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by tamudabu: 11:39pm On Dec 05, 2022

Aemmyjah:
See, it's not by force you answer such question

Thank you. You did not force me to answer. I answered of my own freewill.

Aemmyjah:
I was talking about a little girls and not a youth

2 year old? 9? How old?

Aemmyjah:
Is that how you'd have been able to convince her?

I hope not to convince her of anything as I said. She already uses her mind to question every spirit so to say, so my duty is to encourage her to ask until she finds.

Aemmyjah:
Most books nowadays try to promote evolution as well as teachers

I do not believe it to be true that "Most books nowadays try to promote evolution to be true as well as teachers", considering the many centuries during which non-evolution books have been being written, but even so, praise be, since I would want my daughter to discover for herself that humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today and that we only share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees as she will find if she seeks.

Aemmyjah:
Your approach is very very poor. Why did she come to you in the first place?

It is poor to you. She came to me to get an answer to a question, and if I were ignorant like the two parents you've described then perhaps I should go to school to learn instead of filling my daughter's head with ignorant crap or send her to a library where she can better seek.

Aemmyjah:
It's nice for you to help me make up her mind to be convinced but she too needs to see and hear YOUR conviction. What if she's not an avid reader?

First, if she is not an avid reader, then I must have been negligent in my duty. For if I were a Christian, I should have taught my daughter to read since she must at least read the Christian religious book, and if I were an atheist even more so least she read only one single book and become even more ignorant.

Second, if my daughter is convinced by my own conviction, she will never learn to develop her own conviction nor would she develop her own heart and soul and mind and being to ask and knock and seek. and that's apart from me filling my daughters head with ignorant crap as the parent's above have done.

I teach my daughter to fish with her own mind than turn her mind into fish.

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Politics › Re: Why Are All Presidential Aspirants Seeking Western Endorsement ? by tamudabu: 6:39pm On Dec 05, 2022

KwaraRat:
Its the most belittling misadventure

Are we not an independent nation?

No, we are not an independent nation. No nation is. You are not independent if you borrow. Liz Truss thought United Kingdom was an independent nation but was quickly set aright.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by tamudabu: 6:32pm On Dec 05, 2022

Aemmyjah:
Though this is a joke but we know that will create more questions on the girl's mind.

What kind of questions? Do you mean the kind of questions she'd want answered if told mum came from Kano and dad from Enugu. If so, guess she'd learn some things differ about people. After all, she should know she herself did not come from an ape but came out of her mummy's tommy.

Aemmyjah:
If it were your own child, how will you CONVINCE her?

"Convince her" what? Convince her to continue to use her own heart and soul and mind and being to ask and seek and knock as she is already doing?

No, I do not need to convince her. What I do is buy her lots of books on the subject for her to read for herself to know where she came from. The research alone would enable her to develop her own senses such that it can be said, she sees.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 6:14pm On Dec 05, 2022

wirinet:
And he hope to be elected to be president, where he will be required to swear to uphold and defend a constitution he thinks should be terminated.

Don't you just love dump. He opens his mouth and tells everyone he is not going to uphold and defend the Constitution when it suits him and expects sensible people to vote for him or magas to be the majority.

He deluded himself he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and pussy grab and get away with it too I suppose

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Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Contradiction - Did God Create Man First Or Created Man And Woman Together by tamudabu: 5:54pm On Dec 05, 2022

mike404:
SO THIS ANTI CHRIST IS STILL AWAKE

Lol

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 2:10pm On Dec 05, 2022

Should a company be compelled to sell a product it does not wish to make?

If you make donuts and you sell donuts to many people in the public but refuse to sell donuts to people who have a certain color of skin then you are clearly discriminating and deserve the negative consequences headed your way.

If a feminist runs a donut shop and a man walks into her shop, she should sell the man donuts and not discriminate against him based on his sex. However if the man says please write "Restore the Patriarchy" on all my donuts because I want to hand them out to tourists to let them know about our city, is the feminist compelled to use her talent to promote a cause she finds reprehensible?

In the first case there is discrimination based on what someone is. Not nice.
In the second case there is not discrimination based on what someone is, but rather a decision of conscience to abstain from participation in another persons ideological promotion.

To embolden a government with the power to force people to use their creativity against their individual conscience is a fundamental error with terrifying possibilities.
https://wapo.st/3P9ads7

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 1:34pm On Dec 05, 2022

wirinet:
See the latest picture posted on Twitter. Anyone miss the symbolism as regards his thoughts on the black race.

Southern Strategy thinking.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 7:58pm On Dec 04, 2022

SlyfoxxDaBoss:
Go help your wretched family first you this Trump deranged lunatic. I’m here having a ball, ...

Actually, you're here wailing about me while responding three times to the same posts and lying that you are doing something different to what we all see you doing here.

Just thought to tell you in case you think we are all mindless and blind like you are. I wouldn't respond to your uneducated foul mouth otherwise.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 7:48pm On Dec 04, 2022

Enugurangers:
And what was the conclusion of the investigation?

*Lock her Up*

Been saving this.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 7:48pm On Dec 04, 2022

AlphaTaikun:
I NEVER wanted to reply you but I have to so that folks here will NOT get misled by the falsehoods in what you posted.

This is insulting angry

You ought to know by now that only those already misled can be misled by the misleading falseperson you responded to!

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 7:42pm On Dec 04, 2022

basilico:
Re: How is Brazil at this minute?

Brazil's dump lost and plans his own Jan 6.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 3:08pm On Dec 04, 2022

adamusuleiman11:
Fox News parts ways with Lara Trump as a contributor, citing father-in-law’s presidential campaign.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 2:19pm On Dec 03, 2022

wirinet:
They want to avoid a repeat of 2015 elections where FBI came out to announce investigation against Hillary and a few days later said it was nothing. Hillary and the democratic party that that announcement tipped the election in favour of Trump.

This was the greatest travesty of the decade. A conspiracist would claim the FBI was working for Hillary's downfall.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 9:18pm On Dec 02, 2022

SlyfoxxDaBoss:
Yeah pigs like your hapless fat, ugly mother.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 3:37pm On Dec 02, 2022

IjeBos:
Well.. no one asked you.. lol. Kidding. Yeah man... it was that part of me that doesn't like to back down.

Pigs like it. It's their strategy to eat up your time with their ignorance and nonsense.

But forgive me for saying. You never asked me.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 3:17pm On Dec 02, 2022

IjeBos:
There is a good quote that goes. "Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference". So, I'm bowing out. This will be my last response to you. Get some help. You're not representing yourself or your family well.

Took far too long if you asked me.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 9:30pm On Dec 01, 2022

adamusuleiman11:
Kanye West (in a full facemask) and Nick Fuentes appear on Alex Jones right now.

One of their discussions:

Alex Jones: The Nazis were thugs.

Kanye West: "But they did good things too. We gotta stop dissing the Nazis all the time."

Some serious self destruction!

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 2:03am On Dec 01, 2022

benalvino3:
Budaatum2 would be nice. Don't be spamming nairaland with multiple monikers

There is only one budaatum. And no one sent me the memo that says you get to choose one's monicker.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 9:26pm On Nov 30, 2022

benalvino3:
Why can't you serve up your ban? Why so addicted to make another?

I am not on my 3rd. This is one moniker because they are all the same with a number increment. You know it's me anytime I post.

The 2nd one was ban by mind44 because I ask your grandpa pride to spend more time with his wife.

Why can't you serve your ban ben? Why are you so addicted to make another?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 4:12pm On Nov 30, 2022*

benalvino3:
As of recent, budaatum have started using another moniker as well. Sickos!

Are you sicko to be on your third moniker ben?

Anyway. Found this. Should educate you.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 3:11am On Nov 30, 2022

1stGenAmerican:
https://www.businessinsider.com/kanye-west-says-he-owes-irs-50-million-taxes-2022-11

Was this also part of his so-called master plan? MAGATS are experts at bailouts, he should go to them for help before he finds himself sharing a shower in a federal pen.

I doubt they'd help him 50m worth. Explains his squealing though.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 3:02am On Nov 30, 2022

IjeBos:
I guess Jan. 6 was a big deal after all.

From way back.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2022-midterm/3050#109344380

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 2:39am On Nov 30, 2022

adamusuleiman11:
Kanye West slams Donald Trump as a known liar. West says about Trump on the Tim Pool podcast,

“Trump said things that hurt me. He lied about me, but I mean, he’s known for lying.”

Really, Ye? Dump is known for lying? So when you was supporting dump was you helping dump lie or is Ye on self destruct?

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Investment › Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by tamudabu: 1:15pm On Nov 29, 2022

https://wolfstreet.com/2022/11/28/blockfi-8-subsidiaries-file-for-bankruptcy-smooth-efficient-crypto-contagion-continues/

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tamudabu: 1:11am On Nov 29, 2022

IjeBos:
. But the below convo is who Dems. are and why they always tend to lose against Republicans. Republicans screw themselves. Dems fight to help Republicans not screw themselves.

Dems don't need to help republicans screw themselves because republicans always screw themselves themself.

Dems fight for democracy even when it's not beneficial to them, which is why some of us support them.

And Dems don't lose to republicans as often as you claim!

Politics › Re: Aisha Buhari Orders IGP To Charge Aminu Adamu Muhammed To Court Over Tweet by tamudabu: 9:12pm On Nov 28, 2022

https://www.legit.ng/1175037-robson-kanu-parents-background.html

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