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HardMirror:
all muslims are not the same, i never said they are all the same, but ANY muslim that tells me he does not know that the majority of muslims around the world support killing those considered apostates is a BLOOODY LIAR. Fact.

usermane:
[s]Then like the modern state of Israel, the Muslims' state will be accused of invasion & occupation of non-Muslim land & will be condemned by non-Muslims as a terrorist state.

Muslims' Conquest & Occupation Of Mecca

Before Islam, Mecca was the religious hub of Arab polytheists who practiced a religion that mixed bits of Abrahamic theology with Arab mythology. And like today's Muslims, the polytheists venerated the site of the sacred mosque & kaaba. When Muhammad began proselytism, of course, he and his followers began to clash with the local authorities, eventually forcing them to migrate to Yathrib - modern Medina - where they established their community.

We know that Muslims grew larger & stronger in Medinah, so much that they came to be perceived as a threat by their original hosts - the local Jews. And this is where the eternal feud between Muslims & Jews sprung from. With increasing power, the Medinan Muslims soon began to resist & engage in frequent warfare against the Meccan polytheists until the famous treaty of Hudaibiya brokered peace between them.

But the polytheists' violation of this treaty became the pretext for the Muslims to invade Mecca & seize power & dominion over the city. Whether this invasion or occupation was sanctioned by their treaty is unclear. At any rate, all of history on this matter originate from Muslims' sources & you know what they say of "History Is Written By The Victors." It seem unlikely that the polytheists would agree on a treaty to surrender their land or shrine to their worst foes.

A lot has been discussed of all the Arab polytheists subsequently embracing Islam, and the Muslim conquest of Mecca deserving praise because it managed to avoid bloodshed. Yet, history has proven that much of these polytheists were deprived access to the holy site & forced to choose between Islam & death. Hence, they apostatized as soon as the prophet died, & this compounded by a chain of tragic events prompted the infamous Apostasy wars.

Parallels Between Muslim Conquest of Mecca & Zionist Conquest of Palestine

All these happened in the 7th century, and Muslims have remained at the helm of Mecca ever since. When you come to the 20th century, then you look at the occupation of Palestine by Zionists, it literally seem like history repeating itself with Muslims in place of the Arab polytheists & Zionists in place of the Medinan Muslims.

Muslim Conquest of Jerusalem

But if my analogy between Muslim conquest of Mecca & Zionist conquest of Jerusalem seem rather forced or far-fetched, then consider that Jerusalem was under Christian rule for centuries with it's holy site venerated by Jews. Then after conquering Mecca, some early the early Muslims thought it ideal to invade Jerusalem; and to compound the misery & humiliation of their Judeo-Christian subjects, build a mosque on the very holiest site of Judaism!

Why I Remain Neutral On Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

All this is why I find mind boggling the popular Muslim outcry of Zionist occupation of Jerusalem & Al Aqsa mosque. And this outcry now translate into outrage that becomes the green light for Hamas to initiate rocket fire against Israel from within the vicinity of civilian Palestinians.

It is true that there are a number of details separating Muslim conquest of Mecca or Jerusalem to Zionist conquest & occupation of Jerusalem. But at the core they're the same, albeit with varying outcomes. One group invading another's territory & taking the reins. So while the Muslims could get away with Mecca & Jerusalem in the 7th century, it is unlikely to happen in the 20th century as we've seen with the Zionists.

Peace.[/s]

observer88:
Yea, you are on point, OP. But there's a little difference in both. The Jews originally owned the land. The Muslims invaded and BUILT OR CONVERTED their holiest site to theirs. Now, the Jews are powerful enough to assert themselves on their original property and Muslims are crying foul.

Islam spread by the sword, but they cry loudest whenever they encounter the sword.

HardMirror:
i have no problem with you saying the bolded, but i have problem with muslims who want us to believe that muslims would never kill for their religion. at least you are honest

Emusan:
You haven't answered my question rather using question to answer question, is the word proskuneo never mean WORSHIP?

Emusan:
Says the Muslim that Allah handed over the interpretation of Bible to



In other words Proskuneo never mean WORSHIP right?

Christistruth00:
Are you certain they are not related to the Fulani Bororo ?

babajero:
Yea it surely does, moreover the 11 million you wrote you are just trying to reduce the number so that it doesn't look much bad, where are we going to even start from is it here in Nigeria, Sudan, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq and other parts of the world. ISLAMABAD.

Jeromejnr:
Sir as someone who comes from a STEM field, I was taught to always provide data to back up my arguments.

So I ask you, provide facts why the past was worse than our present times as I have provided below.

And provide if some of those calamities were on a global scale or localised.

Thank you.

Jeromejnr:
Its amazing isn't it. How a book people claim were written by "unlearned goat herders" turned out to be some sort of "scientists" who could predict the rising distresses and increase in calamities globally before the time of the end.

The so called learned ones will tell you it has always been happening. But meteorologists say otherwise.

It is well.

babajero:
I don't need to tell you who is the preacher of hate and doer of evil in the world, from Nigeria to other parts of the world..

Timtellect:
They are right to some considerable extent... But at this point in naija some people need a show like this to ease themselves of the pains and frustration Bubu has brought on us.
Even if I was asked to bet my my life in 2014 that 1dollar will equal to 520naira naso I for bet am die o.. Buhari no try.. Life hard for naija..ppl dey suffer

FTC for the first time after 3years on nairaland.

babajero:
Islam is the biggest terrorist organisation in the world, and was helped curtailed by the USA in the world and by the Jews in the middle East, and that is why Muslims hate the Jews and the Christians.

PaNnamdi:
Look at you arguing like a drunk man at a beer palour
USA air force budget for maintainance of aircrafts and research only is over 300 billion dollars which is larger than the entire Chinese millitary budget alone.
The USA air force has over 13,000 aircrafts with about 5 thousand high-tech fighter jets which is more than the entire russian and Chinese air force combined aircrafts of about 5 thousand jets in total for both nations.

USA nor be china and Russia mate.

Fahdiga:
This criminals should stop embarrassing Nigeria. Only Buhari being the president is enough embarrassment already

aidameoryou:
SAY NORTH HAS ADOPTED JORDAN,
JORDAN IS A MOOOOOZLIM COUNTRY

PAGAN9JA:
keeping surname implies, the child is no more adopted into the family but is rather open to enslavement and manipulation. as in this case, whereby muhammad allowed himself to marry his adopted son's wife, Zainab. Someting which was inconceivable by Traditionalist pre-islamic Arabs.

BeardedMeat:
Ok.

BeardedMeat:
[s] They have often hidden bombs in their hijabs. Who wan die?

I personally get jittery when face to face with anyone with black dot on their forehead.

But I have not always been like that. It's the realities of the modern times that caused it.

Yoruba and Igbo alledged hatred is on NL because Seun looked the other way. Other forums are not like that.[/s]

seunmsg:
Christians pray to God through Jesus Christ and not to Jesus Christ.