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Nengee:
100% pure duroc

any pictures n price or you will do swapping plus cash

Nengee:
The truth about pig farming is make sure u farm the right breed. Exotic breeds may be expensive but in reality they have the best feed conversation rate. It's just like seedlings, when u have the high breed seedlings ur harvest is plentiful. A local pig breed is the worst mistake a pig farmer can make. The consume a lot with no results.
My advice is save and get a pure breed, even if is a sow and a boar. I promise u, u will never regret it.
I have farmed both and am talking from experience.

note pureline are meant stock boost our current breeds cos they av low resistance to diseases so the best feeder pigs so far are hybrids anyway all my breeders stock are obj LW cross with camby but I won't come here to tell you I have purelines anyway if u have pure line of lanndrace n Duroc at cheap price I don't mind ooo even most mixbreeds in circulation have me improved over the time most of my piglets are 70% camby cos there mother is lwcross with camby while the boar na fullbreeds anyway LW pure breeds will give u same results as camby or any purelines will give same results looking forward to get tempting offer of another purelines make I use am upgrade my present stock many farmers have bought so many exotic breeds without results so feeding is the number1 most important tinz me I do tour a lot have seen a farm with mixbreeds those our skelewu version doing great the only disadvantage is that he cant sell weaners at premium price n once they reach certain size they won't grow again but they will be adding more weight like any other breeds but I don't encourage that cos they are highly destructive if not fed with balanced ratio

Nengee:
The truth about pig farming is make sure u farm the right breed. Exotic breeds may be expensive but in reality they have the best feed conversation rate. It's just like seedlings, when u have the high breed seedlings ur harvest is plentiful. A local pig breed is the worst mistake a pig farmer can make. The consume a lot with no results.
My advice is save and get a pure breed, even if is a sow and a boar. I promise u, u will never regret it.
I have farmed both and am talking from experience.

note pureline are meant to boost our current breeds cos they av low resistance to diseases so the best feeder pigs so far are hybrids anyway all my breeders stock are obj LW cross with camby but I won't come here to tell you I have purelines anyway if u have pure line of lanndrace n Duroc at cheap price I don't mind ooo even most mixbreeds in circulation have me improved over the time most of my piglets are 70% camby cos there mother is lwcross with camby while the boar na fullbreeds anyway LW pure breeds will give u same results as camby or any purelines will give same results looking forward to get tempting offer of another purelines make I use am upgrade my present stock

Most people using different names to brand there pigs hmmmm if you are sure of the breeds we want to sell ntin stop us from posting there pictures n price as well even if is expensive those will buy will surely buy rest my case this nite I miss this site na my pig biz no wan allow me get a beta phone but Yoruba adage use to say those pipu Wey no wan make u chop belleful u add make there own food join there own so me Dan add my pigs feed join my own now so I can now rock a beta phone lolz

This biz is not a goldmine the way consultant present it very sweet in paper work but not easy in reality the only advantage pig farms has is just the way it multiply and it a very good way of eating ur ur excess fundz b4 u go spend 10k for beerparlor u go 1st reason pig feed 1st so is a very good way of savings cos if u want to cash out it always bulky but u might think u made profits at times it not always true is just that u recive all the money u have been pumping into it for months,cos let ask each other how much is the cost of our feed per kg?how many kg do we even feed our pigs b4 they give us a kg of flesh those people making it big way are those big playaz or those that have access to cheap industrial waste anyway in pig farming patience is the key try n be in a group this biz is a continuous learning 2 or 4days training won't make u no much in this business, I was lucky to be in a group b4 starting if I rely on just going for few days training wonder were I will be now n u also need to train ursef don't wait for anybody to spoon feed u,I have visited more than 30farms or more so u don't rely on what people said u rely on ur own personal observations let move out of our comfort zone n learn this trade properly

Before u venture into this business what is more important is how to source for good feeds n u must have another source of income structures or buildings wont determine the level of success in this biz let me use myself as a good examples was feeding my pigs very well but last 2months I was stranded can't feed them properly some are nursing mothers so in that process most of them av demaciated now am spending over 200k to restructure them back that feeds is meant to be use in making them look bigger but now am spending such money just to put them back in shape just that those my piglets n weaners are just my consolation for me so pig farming is like broiler rearing always make sure u have provisions of feeds at least for 3months or if u have steady income

Most white pigs will all claim as large white are just hybrids purelines don't come cheaply n u dont need any pureline for this biz except if u only want to be selling premium animals of which most farmers hardly even can differentiate BTW purelines n hybrids but if you have the cash you can get a pureline boar to improve your herds and if you no there is markets for premium pigs around you then you can venture into premium n fattening as well,if any1 have any questions he can ask here or pchat can't access my email address

proflekan4real:
Please is there anybody here that knows where I can get PKC and/or Brewery Waste around Mowe/Ibafo or Sagamu or Ijebu Ode in Ogun State. My pig farm is at Lotto, behind Redemption Camp. I just bought the pigs yesterday. Thanks.

mine is around ayetoro side after redeem camp pchat me let me just advice since you are new in this biz pig farming is not all about feeding bdg n PKC n u expect to see great results u need a very good compounded to achieved great results and if u can look for a company producing any edible food around you it will rili help u in saving cost bdg n PKC are just a good filler cos they are just fiber based feeds

castins:
Please house, what bread is this? Someone supplied me this, they are my first intake for breeding.

this are nice mixbreeds well fed just make sure u get a good boar to cross them there offspring will now be a good hybrid hope u are only breeding them for fattening cos breeds like this don't atttact premium price for there offspring

In pig farming either pure or not pure is not important all what is important is getting a good hybrids not a mixbreeds what matter most is a pedigree boar which most important cos most of there offspring usually looks like the boar that sire them my camby mix look exactly like the fullbreeds

Any pig buyer around epe should kindly pchat a farmer wanto sell his fatteners quantity like 40 pieces

About to cross weight 45kg n above price 35k breed hybrids parents are large white not a pureline cross with camboro pureline location epe

Growers for sell weight 35kg n above price 25k breed hybrids cross of large white not a pureline n camborough a pureline location epe very good in producing fast growing fatteners

tosinjay:
I really cannot say much about that phone. But i realized when using it, it was dropping 1% every 7mins and my phones are always set to lowest brightness with battery saving. You can do the math. And that wasn't even close to gaming!

For phone to recommend, of same spec and price, i know of xiaomi redmi note 4. But the screen of the oukitel k6000plus would probably be better as it's built more stronger, tampered glass can solve that, although the oukitel got water drop feature for the screen. And d oukitel got nice feature in inbuilt screen recording. Sot is screen on time, you can search about that on google to get extensive knowledge.

thanks boss let me give it a shot incase d ba3 disappointed me den will néed to sell it just like u did,or if I make a complain will they refund me? Or change it

tosinjay:
I bought it for personal use but noticed the SOT was too low and battery drains faster unbecoming of the 6080mah it should really be as i connected it with wifi only. But the phone has other good features. Also didn't like the camera app that came with it, looked too basic. I cannot say much about it as i didn't use it. As soon as i realized would nt use, next thing was keeping it intact to sell as new.

I like it because of the ba3 so if is draining fast what other spec can u advice that will fall on dsame price range please what is SOT and like how many hours do u think it can last under heavy usage like gaming

tosinjay:
Nice one, mine is on the way, i just thank God i was able to sell my oukitel k6000plus on time and even made huge gain.

a fwend just want to help me order for d k6000plus 2day with his dollar account want to ask if there is reason y u sell it or because u saw a beta offer for the phone

Any peeps that have for sale around lagos should contact me,i have speakers n woofer already 08130184304 whasap me

dynamix101:
What is the thrust of your argument?? That people buy exotic animals abi??

Ok let me amend: buy exotic breeds but not for fattening, because it makes no economic sense. Why should i keep my animal for 2 years when in that period i can sell off animals twice and have another set in my pen?? Also when buying exotic weaners, dont pay more than 10k for them because it also does not make any sense.

baba can't dictate 4u u can buy ur breeders stock any amount so far it for breeding not for fattening profit is guaranteed will stop here so we won't prolong matters

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dynamix101:
Quick question: Did the fellow who made 300k in 8 months make a profit or not?? Invest that capital in fixed deposit for 8 months and come back to tell me how much interest you got.
You have just outlined the main issue with pig rearing: the pursuit for a quick buck which eventually burns the person.
We are here to learn and i for one wont quote bogus figures and weights just to make people swoon and start signing cheque leaves.
I have been in this business for long enough to know all d antics and i play in every aspect from birth to slaughter so i speak facts not what my friend did or said

guess av answered that,anyway av drop my point for those that needed it just want to tell u buying a weaner of 15 to 20k is not a waste depending on what u intend to use it for,anyway I rest my case here

dynamix101:
You went to Okearo and saw?? In Okearo, there is a farmer there who has a mighty boar that is 7years old and weighs over 300kg with no fat; its true but let me shed some light on issues you may not be aware of:

1. Most farmers who drive the jeeps are the ones eating off newbies and oppressing them to eventual frustration through their terrible antics.
2. Google and read up well on the subject of pig rearing. Even whites will tell you the truth that all pigs start and grow the same. Its when they get to a particular age that the exotic breeds start to shoot up faster. I have asked that why wait for more months when you can sell off your animals, make money and walk away??
3. I have visited farms bro, farms with updated biosecurity They sold in-sow to somebody for 65k but that exotic pig gave birth to 4 piglets. Mine average 9 and they are not exotic, so why waste my time??
4. Its criminal and wicked to sell weaners for 12k not to talk of the ridiculous amounts people quote around. My mom visited Songhai last year and got their contact number. Are you aware that they have a farm in Nigeria?? As at late last year, a whole Songhai had Camborough weaners of the purest breed for guess how much........ 8k. So what are you saying??
5. Before your pig can weigh those ridiculous weights you are dropping, how old are they, be sincere?? The man who has an over 300kg pig has kept tht animal for over 6 years. I went there with a fellow nairalander in February and they use those big old animals to scam people to buy fake weaners at exorbitant costs.
6. Aside our Camborough, we have another boar, a landrace that we acquired for 4,500 then when weaners were 3000. Its first crossing produced 9 piglets. Isnt that one of the aims of exotic breeds?? If my local female can give me 12 and an expensive exotic gives me 10, why waste my time?? Why not continue crossbreeding till i get a perfect lineage?? If you buy an animal for 15k and fatten, how much will you sell?? At least i have dropped a guideline of the costs it will take to bring them up to maturity....... Its a business and once its profitable, remove sentiments and do the right thing.

baba u Dan dey mix the argument up oooo,i said 4k to 8k weaners are meant for fattening 15k weaners with quality spec u can't get it lesser oooo,av never mention of fattening 15k weaners oooo,i av sum1 that his boar weigh 90kg in 6months 9days av advice him to reduce d feeds because it a breeder not a fattener boar,same oyinbo pipu that come with a Camby breed for them to use as slaughter animals,were by there slaughter pigs over there is beta than our own breeders stocks,there animals have a good fcr,pls don't let us compare the way they do things with our own,buying ingilt na black market na,cos most do use the parent stock to cross there offspring or they fatten up the gilt once it on 1st heat they cross it just to make money so what do u expects,some farms don't care about there name all they are after is profit

dynamix101:
Hmmmm...... From birth to 12months of age (10months from when you bought them), your animals weighed 105kg. In another 12 months, they will add just 70kg?? Are you being serious?? So even after the hyped FCR, your animals cannot add more than 7kg per month??
Well, i am not an exotic breed champion, i am just an advocate of truth and i have shared experiences with farmers and all i have said is true

baba u are getting it twisted if an animal weigh 105kg in 10months they have the tendency of weighing over 200kg in 2years,i guess u are also a farmer,you don't fattened your breeder stock,u give them maintenance ratio so they won't be too fatty,if his to fatten it trust me it will gain 300kg or more,it even weigh 100kg+ just because of the pregnancy,anyway we are just here to learn from each other if u av any more questions kindly post it here b4 I leave,so when breeding ur parent stock you don't fatten then check my stock dey are not fatty or lean,so they are differences BTW fatteners n breeders

dynamix101:
Our rule for fattening is to attain 55-60kg live weight within 8 months. I tell new farmers to forget all those scope people tell them about keeping animals till they weigh 90-150kg. You wont see it and you will end up running at a serious loss. Look at the margin u make when you buy 2 month old weaners at 4500 and keep them for 8 months:
Compounded feed and spent grains: 4972
Housing: 2222
Attendant and other costs:555

Total cost including animal purchase: 12069
Min weight will be 55kg and @ 450/kg equals 24750
Profit is 12681.
Even if profits are 10000, with 30 animals you know what you will make.

When you start breeding, that 4500 enters your pocket.

baba nice calculation but now well detailed u can manage to gain 10k with ur calculation so u are making 10k multiply by 30 animals that 300k den divided by 8months that 37k per month do u fink the profit worth it,can it feed a bachelor not to talk of married man,can it even maintain a car? And u made mention of of pocketing the 4500 if u start producing,do u even no the cost of producing each weaners in your farm?

Shakitibob0:
chai so profit here is actually 100% or more and one of the bosses here told me 50% or less

profit on piggery is always 50% or less so it all about quantity but u can gain up to 80% assuming u produce ur own weaners n u do some planting and able to no the scope of production that when u can make more profit,if u are on a rented pen paying for staff n have lesser animals like 50 your profit might not be more than 30% or less,let assuming ur profit on each animals is 8k per 1,then u fatten like 50 animals,ur profit is 400k,after fattening it for 8months then divide 400k by 8 so ur take home profit is 50k monthly, then tell me is the 50k worth the time n stress u pass thru wen raising them monthly,so u need to be guided piggery is not a money spinner,but if u no what you are doing profit is guaranteed

dynamix101:
Proof:
Below are three of my females. The first gave birth to the second and it was bought for 3000 in those days. The first farrows a minimum of 10 everytime and is pregnant for the 4th time. Its daughter in the 2nd pix farrows a minimum of 12 and is pregnant for the 2nd time. The black sow in the last pix farrowed on Saturday morning and dropped 9 that we saw.
No 1 weighs 104
No 2 weighs 80
No 3 weighed 90 when we checked last

They are all normal breeds but crossed with a Camborough boar we bought for 10k.

baba will av love to see d pics od ur camby,any colored any mounted by camby do come out white,let educate each other,u bought 5k weaners after 2years it weigh 105k my fwend bought his weaners 15k 10month old now weighing 105kg or more let say after 2years it will weigh 175kg let assume u sell for 53k his selling his 85k so his making more profit,u will sell ur weaners 7k or less he can't sell his own less than 10k or even more,breeds also determine the profit u willl get in this biz,this are my latest stock tell me when they start producing how much do u fink it will worth

adeyinkapiggs:
My simple advise for you , don't buy Duroc because it's an outdated breed and moreover no matter how balanced the feed you give to Duroc , they don't grow very quickly, although they are very strong animal.. It is advisable to go for pure breed landrace and large white , I have a lot of pure breed animals in my farm , you can come around anytime you feel like to come see them yourself

baba u did not give a valid reason for pipu not to go for duroc,saying is outdated kindly define that,duroc will av been a perfect boar for all farmers to use,just that the issue of coloured pigs,some clients prefer white pigs,duroc is the most scarce breed in Nigeria just because the demand for it is high and it has so many qualities but it best usefulness when using it as a terminal boar it produces excellent slaughter weaners

dynamix101:
Our rule for fattening is to attain 55-60kg live weight within 8 months. I tell new farmers to forget all those scope people tell them about keeping animals till they weigh 90-150kg. You wont see it and you will end up running at a serious loss. Look at the margin u make when you buy 2 month old weaners at 4500 and keep them for 8 months:
Compounded feed and spent grains: 4972
Housing: 2222
Attendant and other costs:555

Total cost including animal purchase: 12069
Min weight will be 55kg and @ 450/kg equals 24750
Profit is 12681.
Even if profits are 10000, with 30 animals you know what you will make.

When you start breeding, that 4500 enters your pocket.

baba am not good with calculations but why waiting for animals u will fattening for 8months b4 attaining 55kg? Have u consider the Xtra cost u will incure on Xtra 2months when u can easily achieve 50 to 60kg in 6months from birth easily with having so many runt that will even weigh 40kg or less,let try and visit farms n see what others are doing,

dynamix101:
Proof:
Below are three of my females. The first gave birth to the second and it was bought for 3000 in those days. The first farrows a minimum of 10 everytime and is pregnant for the 4th time. Its daughter in the 2nd pix farrows a minimum of 12 and is pregnant for the 2nd time. The black sow in the last pix farrowed on Saturday morning and dropped 9 that we saw.
No 1 weighs 104
No 2 weighs 80
No 3 weighed 90 when we checked last

They are all normal breeds but crossed with a Camborough boar we bought for 10k.

baba u bought a Camby weaners for 10k? Anyway I hardly comment on this group base on something I notice,what most farmers practice is to buy good animals and fattening there offspring,u don't expect farmers to buy fatteners and start breeding with it,4 to 8k weaners are meant to fatten not for breeding,nobody will sell cheap weaners with good quality for breeding purpose,most farmers dont rili make profit just because there foundational stock is bad,please u need to tour round diff pig farm n see what going on let embrace change,how many pig farmers are riding jeep from the profit of there pig farming? I started late because I make sure I learn d rope very well,most of my weaners cost me ntin less than 15k,i won't have a pig farm that I will start persuading fellow farmer to buy @peanut do we even no how much it cost to produce 1 weaner?u can't get a quality weaner of 10kg + less than 10k,went to oke aro last week saw a gene converter mix boar d owner turn down offer of 190k for d boar,that d reason of owning a quality breeds,the fcr of an exotic n semi exotic n locals are diff so we av in chicken,u cant see an exotic breeders of 2years that will weigh less than 150kg even if is not fatty,no matter how much u spend on a breeder stock is not a loss cos u will make the profit over time,what I hate most is farmers selling slaghter animals as breeders stock,is high time we educate each other,me I don't Av any exotic animals to sell so u might think I wan sell my animals,they are still young n there fcr are good,stilll planning to buy more superior boar if am opportune to see,if u av anything plus or minus kindly state it out will reply wen I visit again when u buy weaners of 4k den please how much is the price of liveweight then,how much is price of pkc corn n soya then? Just make sure u check d price of ur production stock

Kindly contact the seller thru his fone number being attached to the pics

Here are our little breeders

dynamix101:
I understand your standpoint but like i said, i am giving my own personal experience borne out of years of practical pig rearing. I have 17 females that i use for breeding currently. The only secrets to good breeding is in buying an exotic or foreign male. But females can be any breed. If you are an experienced hand, you can by looks know a female weaner that should do well.

This is my personal experience

baba u are on point that the reason y I preach camboro male weaners but sum pipu decided to tag me as breed promoter then I resr my case

Gudpm house,there is guy from nairaland that chatted me on whatsap which I don't like his accusations tagging me as an Agent just because I encourage fellow farmer to get an exotic breeds,now I want him to come on nairaland n prove a point,he even threatened to spoil me when I start selling my own weaners,just surprised y we fellow Nigerians envying or beefing ur fellow farmer just because his saying the truth, I encourage farmer to get an exotic breeds is for there own good not mine cos wen they start making moni nobody will remember anybody and those farmer that av such breeds are d1 making d moni not me so y vexing his anger on me,if his among those farmers selling slaughter animals as a breeders to co farmer Shld desist n buy exotic animals n make more money don't no y his just obsessed with me,he msg me to send those breeders number to him n I told him let me inform dem 1st, next thing he said am an agent y must I inform dem b4 releasing there numbers,so he xpect me to just be sharing contact anyhow,if u av buy any animals thru my link n feel d price did not justify d worth Shld please voice out,and av advice him to go for those that are not thru my link Shld go n buy 70k weaners atleast dey are not from my link,i stop giving advice on this tread just because of same issues but I won't because of some pipu envious to affect giving advice and am tired of his threat he should come out openly on this thread n tell me his problem. Such pipu don't like d truth just because of selfish interested,i started promoting good breeds b4 being a pig farmer all I no is that the market is big everybody will surely make itI even munch a conversation with a guy of a guy that msg d breeders n d amount they charge him far lesser Dan d price d seller will sell is me that msg d farmer on his behalf still yet he still brand me an Agent,anyway if we still av such pipu that have same mindset with him can just buy on there own after all no be me my pockets d money will go if they buy anyway wen my own animals Dan dey farrow no 4get to buy from me 1love at a pocket fwendly rate cheers I even take my tym guide pipu about feeds n many other things which those pipu chopping d money never did,and sum1 will just come n frustrate pesin

dynamix101:
After spending years rearing pigs, i beg to totally disagree with you. I had this argument with my mom sometime ago and she told me she prefers in-pigs because of the short space of time etc. But let me make u understand that as a learner, its suicide to start with pregnant pigs when you have no knowledge of pig rearing. Its only good for experienced farmers but u know what?? No experienced farmer will buy an in-pig. Also its more expensive than rearing from weaner level. Breeds are very overrated, that is one fact i can stand upon from experience.

Even as you have left them with him, purchase some weaners and learn how to manage them and care for them

just want to add to ur point pig is a long term investment not a quick rich scheme and u must no the major aspect in piggery b4 u venture into it,let me agree n disagree with d point u mention breeds is overated buying 100k weaners just to produce a slaughter weaners is not economic wise,but we av so many good breeds out there that are pocket fwendly,but with my small experience breeds also mata cos place them under same feed n housing they will give u diff FCR just go for the 1 that will fit in to ur taste and be wise