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@coldwater,

who can we contact in Lagos for inspection?

I'll get that information for you before the end of today.

However, I have to make a correction. The owner said he is asking for N2.4 million. I don't know how I came to the N1.7 million conclusion. I believe every serious and reasonable offer will be considered.

Expect the contact information soon.

@Middleman,

i might be wrong but the car looks like an 04/05, all the same its a really lovely car!

I'll have to confirm that, but I think its 03.

Consider bringing down the price just a little bit and ud probably get a buyer in less than 10days, just a friendly advice! Cheers

That's why its here. i think all reasonable offers will be considered.

Pictures:

Still more pictures:

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I forgot to mention that the asking price, which i believe is firm is N1.7 million. More pictures:

Hi All,

I am advertising this on behalf of a family member who shipped this to Lagos from Minnesota. I know the car was bought off an insurance auction and with some body damage. The repair was done in the States before shipping to Lagos.

Let me know if you are interested and I'll reply any questions as soon as I get the answers. In the meantime, here are some pictures.

Just for clarifications. The car is already in Lagos waiting for the buyer. Would that be you?

@kells4u,

Still interested? The SUV will be in naija by the first week of December.

@Davidylan,

Was it ACORN that gave out the subprime loans?

Can you research an itemise their involvement in the Sub-prime mortgage mess. When you are done, I'd like you to reach a verdict - guilty or not guilty.

Uncle TayoD is feeling angry after this elections.

Angry? Far ffrom it. Obviosuly, my prefered alternative did not win, but others I considered my choice outrightly won here in MN. Elections are no do or die affair. Granted, they inspire so much emotions, but reason always triumpgh in the end when a verdict by the people is reached.

@Gamine,

I believe in equal rights, because we are all human. But where the state brings in special rights for married persons, i wont blame anyone for wanting those rights.

First and foremeost, marriage is not a right. If it is, then the society must ensure it is not violated in any way or form.

If anything at all, I think the homosexual community is very pissed by what they consider a double standard on the part of the society. Why shouldn't they get the same benefits afforded to heterosexual couples they argue. I answer them by asking if they give to the society, the same stability and asurance of conitnnuity that the heteroxexual marriages do.

Heterosexuals receive and deserve to receive the benefits from the society because they give to the society what no other associations is capable of doing - the assurance that the society will not go extinct. The State thus shows its appreciation for this union by granting them benefits.

The State does not grant the benefits as a reward for their sexual preference, but as a means to strengthen the society and ensure its survival. Homosexual marriages do not assure a community of its survival, but rather it guarantees its destruction in no distant time. Why should the society then subsidize such a relationship? Why should they reward them for their sexual prefernce?

@adconline,

You obviously don't know what you are talking about regarding ACORN. Your earlier statement that they are only into regeistering voters clearly shows your ignorance. Rather than take time to research how they influenced and promoted the Subprime mortgage mess you are here making ridiculous analogies.

I leave you to continue in your delusions. I don't have the time to educate you now. The www has a lot of resources to help you. You might want to begin from there.

As to our other discussions, it is clear you will rather make completely irrelevant parallels than to defend your stance with good argument and facts. Again, I'll let you enjoy your world. I gat no time to reshape it.

@sleek_p,

When does this guy make these "tens of thousands of dollars" considering he spends at least 12hours on Nairaland everyday? Typical Nigerian,I smell 419 jare.

You must be very dumb o. While trying to impugne on my character, you end up vilifying Nigerians by impying that the typical Nigerian is a 419. Nairaland does not need senseless people like you here. You've only posted 69 times on this thread and we can see your bias already. Go wash your mind clean and come have a discussion if you will.

Please can you explain how you make "tens of thousands of dollars". Am only asking this so people don't start accusing you of 419. Since you spend nearly 12hrs here everyday when do you get time to go to work.

You must be on cheap crack. The same one who accused me and the typical Nigerian of 419 is now asking that tell him how I make money. Have you ever heard of the sweet word called "work"? Please break down how you came to the conclusion that I spend 12hrs/day on nairaland? It appears you should be summarly ignored as quickly as your so-called facts should be jettisoned.

Am hoping you'd help clear this confusion about your wealth. Thanks,

The only confusion is in your mind, not mine. I know it is extremely difficult for you to imagine making that much money. I'll pray god to deliver you from your poverty mentality.

@darfur,

tayo d thinks he is debating with brainless people here

Yor statement does not put you in the category of those we'll consider not brainless.

@adconline,

First, you will need to stop writing in bold letters. It makes for very difficult reading.

This is why your views are skewed. How can he do this without breaking the law?

For goodnes sake, there are close people that I know here in the US whose stay is illegal. That does not keep me from helping them to live well. They are not on welfare and so constitute no burden on the tax payer in that sense. This is the least that Obama can do without brealing the law while being "his brother's keeper."

If folks like you keep talking about his associations while the same time ignoring John McCain’s or Sarah Palin’s associations. You are dead wrong to think that Obama will throw the border open for everyone to come. John McCain had a similar proposal until radicals in his party hijacked his campaign. This is why you cannot have a “fair” debate without saying some heinous things about Obama. Can you tell me where Obama says that he will let everyone who is illegal in the country stay without recourse to the law? Does  being your brother’s keeper mean breaking the law or stopping govt agencies from carrying out their legally statued functions?

I may be worng but did John McCain and Sarah Palin launch their political careers from the home of a convicted terrorsit? Did any convicted terrorist raise money for them? Please educate me I beg. I mentioned earlier that I ma no fan of McCain either and never supported his intial border plans. But again, you miss the point that I made. Why did Obama proclaim that the approriape laws should be enforced against his aunty while not saying same for the other million illegals in the country? That is the question you need to answer. Is it hypocrisy or political posturing?  Your guess is as good as mine.

Another whacked reasoning because, Obama did not invite this woman to the US. So, why make him responsible for her ordeal? I repeat Obama and McCain had similar postures on immigration .Go and do your research. Obama has not said that illegal immigrants who are awaiting deportation order from govt should be let to stay in the country

See my response above. In addition, it is one thing to show indifference in the case of the millions of illegal immigrants and another thing to call for enforcing the laws when it is your aunty. Don't you see any difference? Had he said the laws should be enforced in his aunty's case as well as that of the other million illegals, then all will be well. But that is not the case.

Another skewed reasoning! You sound as if your grand parents were related to Christopher Columbus or descendants of native Americans. That Obama should take care of his brother as if to say that  you take care of your all relatives in Nigeria. The point is that Obama takes of his family in the US. Its like holding John McCain responsible for the welfare of his black relatives in Missippi who are descendants of slaves that were held by John McCain grand parents.

First, no half brother or brother of mine is living on less than $1 a day in Naiaja. I will correct that if it is the case. Second, I am not the one faulting my country for not being their brother's keeper. It is Obama who does that and yet does not live up to the ideals. It is all political posturing. As for McCain, he adopted a black child years ago and had taken care of her up to this point. He's shown what it is to be a brother's keeper in deed and not in words. As for Obama, I can't say the same.

I wonder what you have intended to achieve by insisting on his relationship with Bill Ayers and Co might be risky. Isnt Bill Ayers called a terrorist? And Obama’s relationship with him will implicitly mean that he-Obama is a terrorist like Ayers . Even though, they were on a  republican  constituted board with other republicans.  Do you also know about Bush’s relationship with a Saudi family that has some issues  to look at?

Keep deflecting the issue. If Bin Laden hosts your "meet the candidate" meeting in his house in 20 years time, do you think I will ahve any reason to be wary of your sense of judgment, even though Bin Laden may have ceased being active in terrosrism by then?

Evil could imply  risky, dangerous, radical, terrorist tendencies, communist, socialist and extremist in this context and these are all outliers.

Just stop putting words in my word and address the things I say. Don't misrepresent me here.

Now ACORN has  changed from registering voters to generating mortgages? It seems you don't know the difference Bear Stearns and ACORN?  Taking Rush Limbaugh and Billy O'Reilly's prescriptions on what caused the meltdown.  For your info. democrats only  took control of the congress in 2006 and republicans  control the executive since 2000. What was McCain doing when he addressed ACORN in 2006? If you need a lecture on mortgage mess, you can open a thread so that some folks can lecture you. The reason why I’m putting  my bet on Obama is this let’s try another way of running govt.

Obviously you don't know ACORN's history and their link to the mortgage mess. You are obviously unaware of their law suits against banks to issue sub-prime mortgages. Go find out about that and come back and discuss the issue with me.

@adconline,

you ideas are always wacked and skewed.

Really! I wish you'd prove it.

How could Obama help his aunty without folks like you calling for his head -nepotism.

How can't he help his aunty? isn't this the same guy who is trying to court latino vote through open borders? No one is asking him to illegally regularise his aunt's stay in the US. All we ask is that he be "his brother's keeper" as he has enjoined the rest of us to do.

To now think that he has thrown the poor woman under the bus is just hilarious. He has now stated that the appropriate laws should be followed in dealing with his aunt. Why didn't he say the same with all the illegal immigrants in the country? The answer is very simple - political expediency. He says whatever need sot be said to achieve his goal, even if he has to not be his brother's keeper.

I don't blame the aunt one bit. At least in the US, she can get free housing and food. She'd rather stay here than take the chance of going back to Kenya. If Obama cannot even take care of his half-brother there, how much more, or should I say less his aunt.

I got a question for you if this guy Obama is really bad as you make us to believe what becomes of your character?

I only declared here that he is a hypocrit. Can you tell us he lives up to the ideals he asks of the rest of us? Please judge Obama by his words and ignore mine. Tell us your conclusions.

If Obama fits your description of a terrorist, then you as freaking Nigerian will qualify as a devil incarnate.

Are you smoking some cheap weeds or something. Where did I ever call Obam or implied that he is a terrorists. You are obviously thinking aloud and saying what is on your mind. but please don't attribute it to me.

I think you have really set a high bar for describing folks who are evil if Obama fits in that mode.

Where have I said Obama was evil?

What is your case for John McCain?

I'm not a fan of John McCain either.

Elect him as Bush and the problerms of these past 8 years will be carried over.

So with Obama, all your problems are over baa? The Democrats and their allies in ACORN and co caused this mortgage mess. Is the DNC going away with the voting into office of Obama?

Obama promised his proposlas will send electricity bills sky-rocketing while running the coal industry bankrupt. Do you have an idea how many jobs that will affect? Please wake up from your illusion of voting your problems away by voting for Obama. Its a lie.

@Bastage,

It's a matter of fairness. How many people do you know earning $250,000 a year?

This is not about fairness at all. How can you say it is unfair for me to acquire more than others when I have only made use of the same opportunity available to others? You can only talk about unfairness if the govt deprives others of the same priviledges it gives to the rest of the population.

Telling me I have to give back more is totally unfair. I should give to people based on my goodness of heart and not based on a fine for my success. And by the way, Conservative are more liberal with their earnings than Liberals. This is based on facts.

If the society punish my success, will the same society reward my failure? I lost a lot of money last year on some business, but I was not paid back the tens of thousands of dollars I lost. However if through my sacrifices, hard work and enterpreneuship I succeed, is it now fair for the same society to expect more from me? I will surely give back more to causes and programmes I consider necesary to the betterment of my society, but having the govt do a Robin Hood on me is absolutely unfair.

@Negro,

Rush is nothing but a bag of bigotry and racism.  He does not outright act or project racism but the undertone of his programmes is no doubt a clear and conclusion on where his conscience is - the supremacy of the white race as the sole determiner and pathfinder for the rest of humanity.

I have listened to Rush a number of times. Most recently when Obama's AD accused him of racism against the Hispanics. That got my attention. However, on listening to him defend himself, I realise that Obama actually twisted his words to not only demonize the guy but to win votes. My impression of Obama got worse through that episode, and I kind of respected Rush even more.

Of course one video might not be sufficient guage of his racial rhetorics but I guarantee you if you listen to rush for an entire week you will come out convinced about his loyalty and leanings, as well as beliefs.

My impression of him is more like an unrepentant Conservative. He appears to like to take on the hard issues without caring about the repercussions. I guess that is how a talk show host is different from a Politician. His words may appear offensive, but going through the clutter, I find them thought-provoking. The subject video is case in point.

You are right on BigB, he is a die hard supporter of Obama for Presidency but his temperament is very close to McCain's - he starts off cool and collected, persuasive but then ends up rabid and discredited.

Is it only Obama? What about IBB. My impression of BigB1 is no other than a political praise-singer who seeks relevance through the art of patronising.

@Omoge,

Okay Tayo maybe he has been helping his family. as for the aunt, when you are here, you are on your own you know. i wouldnt blame him for anything.

If that is the case, then he is pointing accusing finger at himself. That means he represents the highest form of degeneration of the American State, all these based on Obama's own words.

What I believe the poor man needs is not a govt hand-out. What they need is an equal opportunity to prosper like everyone else. Govt hand-outs create more govt dependence, which is why the govt budget keeps growing. What the Dems have suceeded in doing is create a huge voting block that despereately needs them to be in power to get their daily bread. This I find very appalling.

@away4real,

From Obama's child hood to almost every day in his life has been put under the micro scope and u say u don't know anytin about him, so how did u know he was a community organiser, has been in state legislature, lecturer and attended church for 20 years your first paragraph is awash with so much falsity keep at it.

I didn't make that statement. You might want to take up your beef with those reporters.

What does ACORN have to do wit this try as much as u can Obama is not linked to ACORN, d activities of a few ACORN staff can not soil an organisation that has achieved a lot. Republicans and democrats alike atest to this, so again keep at it.

Of course Obama is not linked to ACORN. All he did was just to train them, represent them in a law suit and to give them and thir associates about $800,000. Of course he has no link with them.

Yes we definately agree that the election is close, the accuracy of pollings is suspect and definately the margin of error are at times understated to achieve some statistical significant result so it merely gives an indication that can be skewed depending on the sample surveyed.

Agreed again.

How is Obama a better choice he is more inclusive in his approach.

More inclusive of who or what? Please educate me.

Both economic philosophies have their advantages and disadvantages, the random variables such as political climate and market perception could tilt any to success. What is needed now is enormous purchasing power and consumer confidence, thats why reducing the tax for the middle class is key in achieving this. This talk of the rich creating jobs is so shallow is it only the rich that buy the goods?

An economic stimulus package, which was basically a tax break to the middle class and lower was done recently. How has that helped and promoted consumer confidence?

Obama broke no tax promise u don't listen to him so how would u know, let me explain it to u, no one earning 250K or below would see their tax increase, go to his website there is a tax calculator there, then from 200k downwards get a tax cut, then 250k upwards get a tax increase propotionately (in proportion to income).

My question. Is this tax break on top of the Bush's tax cut or is exclusive of it? How do you explain Biden and the other Dem Gov's statement?

NB: even his own tax increases so i don't know what ur puttin 2 and 2 is? does he hate himself and the rich so much?

Is not a matter of hating himself, but a matter of gaining political advantage. That is what this is all about.

@sleek_p,

Your post does not deserve a response.

@Omoge,

Tayo

how many of your relatives have you helped to get green card or citizenship? how many have you seen through the immigration process?

The issue here is not about immigration. I didn't say anything about it.

please do not blame the man. there is nothing people can do when you come into the country illegally.

Like I said, I am not paying attention to the illegality of her status. I am just trying to reconcile the fact that Obama said America's failings is because we are not our brother's keepers, and yet we do not see him doing that. He just strikes me as a typical liberal who will not spend his money to help but will tax and spend public money to address what they regard as a social misnormer.

if OB were to be helping people in kenya, am sure the pundit would have said OB is sending money to terrorist.

I've being sending money to naija through Western Union. No one has accused me on being a terrorist. The only caveat is that you must produce a driver's licence if you are sending over $1,000.

@away4real,

Your statement above refers, and please read my post again i said larger share of tax cuts in proportion to their income.

The point is that recession is not the time for any form of tax increases. You can never tax your way out of a recession. Have you heard Obama talking about 90% of Americans getting a tax cut? Please do the math for me. How do 90% get a tax cut when about 40% do not even pay any income tax? How will that work? Is it going to be through sales tax? Are these tax cuts pre-Bush or post-Bush tax breaks?

Ok Obama's aunt is illegal what should he do subvert the process to help her, if he had defended her in d case u would say he is defending an asylum seeker that makes him extreme or anythin . How can you conclude he doesnt give a hoot about his aunty or family such unfairness from a professed christain is alarming u might disagree wit d guy on issues but be fair for christs sake, he left his campaign for 2 days to go see an ailing grand mother, took his daughter out for hallowen because he cares and not a political stunt.

Give me a break. Is it too much to weigh a man based on his profession? Obama has hammered that America's failing is that we've not being our brothers' keepers. The question is: has he? The political stunt issue is open to debate, seriously.

What other family ideals do you need, how many of your family members have u taken to the US, how many of your extended family members do u send money to? U don't have to answer because they are symbolic questions the point as someone has stated above is our web of family links are quite large depending on the family u are from,even McCain has said he is a good family man so i don't get u.

This is not someone he is unaware of. This is an aunt that made it into his autobiograpgy. This is an aunt that lives here in the US with him and in abject poverty. First it was a step-brother and now it is an aunt. I wonder what else we will find out.

U don't have to like Obama but don't smear him unfairly , i wont smear Palin or McCain on trivial issues i totally disagree with their positions but i recognise the service of McCain and can't stand the stupity of Palin,doesnt suggest they are bad people so all this indirect insinuations on Obama is just pathetic.

I do not unlike him nor am I smearing him. The point is that he does not live up to his words. Take for instance, his pledge to receive public financing and the u-turn afterwards. I do not take him seriously, really. So while you can't stand the so-called stupidity of Palin, I can't stand the hypocrisy of Obama. Are we even now?

@Ibime,

You this guy. I can see stupidity is an affliction which is hard to get rid of. As the polls have gone for Obama, I can see your desperation increasing with each post. Each day, you keep getting more and more extreme, to the point that I have concluded that you are just a hopeless wingjob. The other day you said that 80% of people refused to respond to polls. Actually, you mean 8%. Keep hanging on to your hopes and making up ridiculous shit to console yourself. That said, the race is very close, no doubt - but no need to make up your bullshit 80% story.

When you choose to address issues without being hung omn personalities, I will respond to you.

@BigB1,

I just watched the video and I am trying to figure out how you came to the conclusion that the guy is racist. Where there did he declare the White race is better than the Black?

I personally have tried to figure out why other immigrants (non-Whites) who come to the US do better than the local-born? Have you ever tried to figue that out? What are your conclusions? What about his take on the nmortgage mess? Are those lies too or is it race-baiting?

Please share your ideas and solutions with us and not try to demonize someone who's more brillinat than you in more ways than one. Imagine calling him a Retard! You need to learn to use words that potray you as a serious individual.

@away4real,

How is Obama the hip choice, please state that as your opinion, in my opinion McCain is the erratic choice.

Considering Hollywood falling head over heels to endorse him, and most MEdia Houses drooling over Obama, I consider that to be the "hip". Do you want to explain what you mean by Obama McCain beibng an erratic choice? What's so erratic about choosing a man who's lived the better part of his life in public service and in the full glare of the public? Let me tell you what the erratic choice is. It is choosing for President someone whom two prominent Journalists on PBS declare we know nothing about. As at yesterday, Tom Brokaw and Charlie Rose basically declares America was taking a big risk considering the fact that no one really knows him, his philosophy or where he stands.

E

arly voting isnt the strength of the democrats it is the strength of any well organised ground campaign that can get out their votes early, George Bush had a very effective ground campaign and was quite successful in early voting.

With the strength or should I say the chicanery of ACORN on their side as well as the traditional get-out-the vote drive that Obama has being involved with all his life, early voting was meant and exected to favor Obama significantly. I can sure sense the nervousness on their part now.

Theres no need to paint any glim picture for Obama we all agree the race will be very tight, isnt it ironic that a new guy can stretch the GOP machinery like this, win or loose the GOP wont forget this in a hurry. And don't be mistaken the odds are in Obama's favour but thats no need to be complacent we know the artistry of the GOP to turn illegalilty into legality during elections.

We finally agree on something. This election is too close to call, all the polls nothwithstanding. We were told of Kerry sweeping Bush away last election as well, and yet we know better. IOf anybody is involved with illegality, it is the Dems. Check out ACORN and the DNC's effort to have people without driver's licence or any form of identification to vote.

The race is close, it is fool hardy to look at the polls, its the ground work that counts now, taking McCains line i wish McCain well but wish Obama all the luck, its clear to all that will use common sense that he is the better choice, this Liberal/conservative talk is all a way to divide and confuse the intellectually lazy and confused. The difference between Obama and McCain is audible to the blind and visible to the deaf, Palin as VP, McCain as president in 2k8 am amazed at the republican party.

How is Obam the better choice? I don't see it. Call me and others intellectually lazy for all I care, it does not change the fact. Wealth redistribution is a good recipe for investment flight.

Consider this. Obama has being promising tax breaks to people who ean less than 250K. During his infomercial, he cut it right back to 200K. This past week alone, Biden said the middle class represents those making less than 150K per annum and the Dem Gov of New Mexico came out to declare that Obama's intention is for those making less than $120K. What does that tell you? The fact is this, once Bush's tax cut expires, everyone will experience a tax increase. Obama favors the tax cut expiring. Please put 2 and 2 together.

away4real,

So is it electing John McCain that will bring the end to their misery?

I never said that!

And it is giving a larger share of tax cuts to fortune 500 CEO's and larger dividentd income and capital gains tax cuts then have a large deficit while fighting two wars that is strong economics.

Everyone gets a tax cut and not just the wealthy. If I may ask you, how many times have you being employed by the poor? It is the rich who create jobs and giving them as much tax breaks as the others is only sensible. Capital gains tax affects everyone. Tell me, was Clinton able to raise more money for the govt from a higher capital gains tax compared to President Bush?

On the topic his aunty lives in the US illegaly and he said he didnt know or he didnt do anytin about it how does that make him an hypocrite?.

This is the same aunt he mentioned in his autobiaography. He is well aware of the state of his aunt and cannot even bail her out of her misery. Why should I think this person cares a hoot about me if he doesn't give a sh*t about his flesh and blood? He has twice said that America's biggest failing so far is that we are no longer our brother's keepers. Going by Obama's words then, I dare say he represents American's failings in its fullest expresion.

I am loss on what to say, throwing common sense to the wind in the name of ideology.

What idepology if I may ask? We are only judging Obama by his ideology here. It is obvios you are the one blinded by undying love for someone who does not live out his words. If he has failed to live up to his professed ideals in his family, why should I trust him to uphold it to the nation?

@topic,

This is the same Obama who tlod us in the infomercial that we are to be our brother's keeper. Not only does he not take care of his aunty, but we learnt his half-brother in Kenya who is living on about $1 per day. Talk about hypocrisy.

This is one reason why I feel sorry for the many in the US who think electing Obama will bring an end to their misery. the guy does not care jack for anyone but himself. Every attempt at public service as being with a view to the Presidency.

And by the way, I've being convinced long ago that while Liberals are ready to ready to tax everyone and use public money to become "Mr Nice Guy", they cannot and do not do the same with their money. What a joke!!!

@topic,

Talking about polls. I will enjoin everyone not to put too much hope in these polls going into the election. Why you may ask? Among other reasons, how do you account for up to 80% refuse-to-respond reply to the pollsters' questions? The polls we are do not account for this. Assuming these people who refuse to respond are Obama's, then the race will be a landslide victory for him. If on the other hand they are McCain's you can be sure Obama stands no chance.

Considering that Obama is the "hip" choice and these folks go against the grain to not respond at all, then I will tell you Obama is in very big trouble.

Early voting which is traditionally the strength of the Democrats hasn't showed any Obama edge so far. Florida, arguably the most liberal State in the Union that was supposed to be in the bag for Obama is now very competitive and Obama is still throwing money there like no man's business. Reason for this is not far-fetched. A ballot initiative banning gay marriage is in the offing. You can imagine how this is energizing the traditional conservative base to go out and vote. This does not bode well for Obama, considering the fact that polls indicate the ban will be upheld. If same people who uphold the ban vote traditionally, then bye-bye to Florida for Obama.

In short, I can not put my money on this election. It is way too complicated to predict.

@topic,

This is hilarious. Background -  A 9 year old punk was stealing McCain signs until a neighbor decided to set a little trap. Video camera + creative electrical engineering = 9 year old punk gets zapped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj1ENW0K_OE

@topic,

Here is Obama at the Community Organizing event proclaiming that they will have influence in shaping the policy of his govt. The same ACORN who brought about the mortgage crisis with the Dems and whom Obama earlier claimed he never had any close dealings with? I get more and more scared of the consequences of this guy's presidency.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU&feature=related

@topic,

Talking about rigging. From all iondications, it appears it is the Democrats that are palanning to rig and have being doing it all along. Does ACRON ring a bell? Anyone?

When the Democrats, ala Obama gives ACORN millions of dollars, and the same Democrats insist on people voting without providing any form of I.D., while encouraging early voting, I can't but think a good ground has being laid for voter fraud. Considering that most Americans consider themselves to be conservative, I do think the Dems must have being cheating a looong time ago to have gotten any national post.

@bamowolo,

That's a good one - THE DIFFERENCE!

Here's what an Obama-Palin Press Conference looks like:

ACORN fraud

@bawomolo,

because ACORN has donated to his campaign

That is not ture. It is the other way round. Obama has donated about $800,000 from his campaign to ACORN.

Again as in the case of Ayers, Obama is economical with the truth in his first public response about his ties to the group. Information coming our reveals that not only did he provide them with legal representation, he trained some of their leaders. For any who do not know, the CO in ACORN stands for COmmunity Organizers. Does that ring any bell? Anyway, here's an article regarding Obama's association with ACORN and his attempt to hide it - http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7203