₦airaland Forum

@Davidylan,

I think you need to learn to express your contrary opinion in words that portray you as a level headed person. You are really going overboard and I am getting tired of having to correct you incessantly on this forum.

As per my inference that Obama's Attorneys are out in Wasila digging for dirt against Palin, I certainly know there are similar precedents. From Howard Gutman questioning Palin’s parenting as well as her decision to seek higher office, to his spokesman, Mark Bubriski, lying that Palin backed Pat Buchanan, Obama's use of his surrogates to fight dirty is well established. Even CNN confirmed the fact that Obama's campaign organization contacted her ex brother-in-law's State Trooper's Union. For what purpose you might ask? Your guess is as good as mine.

Here's a report about Obama's first election vistory from CNN: In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago's gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.

As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.

The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.

"That was Chicago politics," said John Kass, a veteran Chicago Tribune columnist. "Knock out your opposition, challenge their petitions, destroy your enemy, right? It is how Barack Obama destroyed his enemies back in 1996 that conflicts with his message today. He may have gotten his start registering thousands of voters. But in that first race, he made sure voters had just one choice." http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/index.html

With this in mind, I can't help but think it is fishy that when Obama was running for the Senate, his opponent had to resign after details of his divorce were made public. This again led to Obama's easy victory.

So why should I not suspect something fishy in this case? Especially when 30 or so lawyers are now sent to Wasilla? You may choose to hide your head in the sand, but I have enough information to be wary and suspect of the messiah from the south side of chicago.

@Davidylan,

to say i am disappointed will be an understatement. Where is the evidence of this claim? With every underhand, ignorant and clearly unfathomable comment you make, i sincerely question your sense of judgement.

Did you see the word "probably" in my statement? You just tend to blurt out without regard for facts or understanding of an issue. Or is it my claim that Obama has sent his attorneys to Wasilla to dig up dirt about Palin that you have issues with?

@doyin13,

I thought Tayo was an unbiased observer.

He has revealed himself to be a virulent Conservative Republican.

Of course I am biased. I am biased towards conservatism. I do not consider myself to be a Republican even though I think myself to be conservative.

I, like many others in the Republican Party were not enthusiastic about McCain. I was rooting squarely for Romney until Hurricane Palin came around and turned the tide.

@topic,

Consult a dictionary or ask people to help explain the content to you.

A classic Afam response.

@topic,

This is probably the handiwork of the attorneys and the many dirt-diggers that Obama sent to Alaska. Talk about change we do not need.

As Obama said, he does not intend to lose this election and we are beginning to see to what extent he is willing to go to achieve his dream.

@topic,

Come to think of it, it does appear that Biden is catching up to the fever that Jesus, just like Obama was a Community Organizer.

In an apparent attempt to follow in his master's (Obama's) fooststeps and promise to recede the high tides of the ocean, Biden himself attempted to perform a miracle. While campaigning earlier in the week, Biden, energized by the zeal to out-perform the messaiah, called on a paraplegic state official to stand up from his wheelchair to be recognized. Apparently, he had to learn that though change can be mouthed, it does not quite happen with a waze of the hand.

The Democrats may compare Obama to Jesus for all I care, but they need to know without a shadow of a doubt, there can only be one Jesus, and we need no other Messaiah!

@topic,

This is a very interesting one. Let's hear what Biden has to say and consider what Obama may be thinking right now.

1. Before being co-opted unto the ticket, Biden claims Obama is not ready to be President. According to him, the presidency does not lend itself to on-the-job training.

2. Biden reiterated statement 1 above when asked about it at a later date.

3. Just yesterday, Biden said Clinton was as much qualified to be the Presidential candidate or the VP candidate of the DNC.

4. Just seconds after saying 3 above, Biden declares Hillary would have being a better choice than himself.

5. I can imagine Obama kicking himself for choosing someone who continually questions his judgement.

Considering the above, I wonder if the title of the thread "Sarah Palin is a Mistake" shouldn't be changed to "Joe Biden is a Tragic Mistake."

@Negro_Nts,

Once she is there in that position, then you instigate Republicans to piss her off and then stand clear and let her do her thing. Trust me, Obama will be in White House on January 20th, 2009.

I can't help but ask why you will think Hillary will be interested in seeing Obama get to the White House. I mean, Obama's Presidency is a death blow to Hillary's aspirations to be President for another 16 years or thereabout (Obama's 8,and Biden's . She has a fighting chance with McCain becoming Pressident than she does with Obama becoming President.

And forget all these recent talk and the convention speeches. Bill and Hillary are very furious with Obama. Bill for Obama's supposedly accusation of him as being racist and Hillary for the fact that sexism was brought to play par excellence by the Obama camp. I'm sure you've seen Bill's interview where he lasched out he is no racist and Katie Courie's statement that sexism was employed by the Obama camp throughout the campaign.

the long and short of the matter is this: I have serious doubt that Hillary wants Obama in the White House.

@Topbanana,

Tayo-D  you no dey taya to argue, abi na your job? RFLMAO!!

What's the point of this forum? No be to exchange ideas? At least, I am trying to steer the discussion away from personalities to issues. You have a problem with that?

@KarmaMod,

Right.  whose?

Trying to apportion blame will be an exercise in futility. So while we have the opportunity to discuss issues, we should do that.

And can I apologise if I have offended you in any way. I never really meant to, and it is not my style to have a go at ladies, especially well-endowed ones.  

@kobojunkie,

lol,  I thought I was the only one watching and waiting to see where this ends,  lol.

How can it end? Don't you know it is good for nairaland's ratings?

@KarmaMod,

The same war hero that voted for veteran benefits to be slashed?

Can you throw light on this statement please. This is an opportunity to discuss the issues and not resort to character assasinations.

@karmaMod,

How can it make sense to you when you're senile? Elede ni e. simple.

no worries some day when we get to the point of free healthcare, you'll be able to afford your much needed meds

CHANGE IS ON THE WAY

hehehe

Watch out all. Ignorance has being set on rampage on nairaland. The Ignorance is personified in no other than the most capable ignoramus - KarmaMod.

@karmaMod,

Lmao. You are such a joke. Take your Alhemizers meds, grandpa. You're proud of mentioning The View. The reason for which you mentioned the view is WHY you are a sexist lunatic not the reason why you're NOT. After all I'm not the only one who complained about H&C, why quote me then to make that dumb comment

The hell does the View have to do with anything. You think you're being clever by claiming this and that. I see right through you

Once again, a senseless post from the most obvious person to make one - Karma Mod.

and since it's OBVIOUS your chuvanistic self has a problem with me being here, IGNORE ME. Na by force you reply my comments?

Ignore you? You wish. How can I ignore you when I have the option to not take you seriously

@KarmaMod,

How about you practice what you preach, agbaya.

We are talking about Fox News, you are bringing up nonsense like The View. Na by force you reply me sef since you have nothing better to say. Take your condecending bs away from here and ignore me since you can't act your age.

Someone needs to go refill their medications. You are obviously experiencing a meltdown.

I think Meet The Press is fine with news. Hannity & Colmes is garbage under the guise of "fair and balanced". You bringing up "The View" is just one of the many reasons why I think you're a sexist chuvanistic hog.

When I mention Palin, I am no sexist, but I am one when I reference the VIEW. You obviously don't have the ability to reason beyond skirts and trousers. Someone here has rightoy said, you should go back to the Romance Section where you will definitely feel at home.

If I was discussing with someone who has the ability to reason properly, I would have asked you to parallel the two situations that I compared and see if there was anything there that remotely suggests sexism. Since reasoning is alien to you, I will not wear you down with such a burden.

@Davidylan,

My dear sharrap dia!

Who is your dear? Do I look like KarmaMod?

Instead of you to admit an error like a mature adult you're here pandering like a floundering duck.

I did just that with Ibime who pointed it out. But as usual, you only see what you want to see irrespective of facts on ground.

I didnt say this - claiming Ronald Reagan never was a Governor and had no experience before running and becoming the President of the US.
I was mentioning names of presidents who were not governors before being elected and mistakenly mentioned Reagan for which i promptly accepted the error when you brought it up. I'm not too full of myself (like you) to realise when i make a mistake and correct it.

Now you are lying. The first time you mentioned Ronald Reagan was not a Governor, I let it slip thinking it was just a mistake. I corrected you the second time, and you are here saying it was just a slip. How about, it was just plain ignorance. You may want to check posts #153 and  #163  of this topic.

What issues are you talking about? Have you EVER at any point on this thread been concerned about issues? abeg clear space let those who have facts speak o jare.

Check out the facts presented in #153 and #163.

@bamolowo,

the view is on ABC and not NBC.

Thanks for the correction.

@KarmaMod,

what did I tell you about your pathetic attempt at humor?

That was not an attempt at humour. I'm telling you, you need to go learn how to think and make the right judgement.

@Davidylan,

huh? The view on NBC?

My premise for the statement is not wrong even though the station that broadcast the program was wrongly stated. I thought you will address the issue here.

Contrast this error with your wrong premise when you were claiming Ronald Reagan never was a Governor and had no experience before running and becoming the President of the US.

@Darfur,

tayo i was neither criticising fox nor praising them. just read my post as a simple statement. i did not criticise their women. you wont see me degrading women for whatever. never(except hillaryand even at that i have never challenged her beauty or personal life, only political life)

Are you for real? What is the talk about the looks of the female Presenter on Fox about? Does that have any bearing to politics or their beauty?

don't always believe anything i posted has political undertone

So what are you doing in the political section?

and i am not a liberal

Thank God for you.

@darfur,

fox news has an "unseen" policy of recruiting models. havent u noticed that most of their female presenters are model-like and frequently blonde. some women do a touch up before being employed so that may be her problem

Isn't this the same person just preaching to us about cosmetic supremacy? Are you guys always dipped in the river of hypocrisy when confirmed as Liberals? What happened to "these are mothers" statement?

a

gree. I can't stand watching those to. To be honest I think Colmes is some fake "liberal" robot placed there just to give the ILLUSION of "fair and balanced". It's garbage.

I don't know why Fox did not follow NBC's example on the VIEW. They should have pitted just one Liberal against 3 Conservative Commentators to give the real illusion of balance. I guess that would satisfy you baa?

@darfur,

darfur has spoken

So let it be written, so let it be done.

now these are very unfortunate posts. who determines cosmetic supremacy?

Cosmetic supremacy is subjective. Haven't you heard that beauty is in the eye of the beholder? In any case, it is all good. The statements were made in good spirit and there is no law that says we cannot appreciate how good our women look.

@kobo,

Coulter is definitely not ugly. Those legs and that body, that is what you see on runways across the world today. And the hair? She is got it!!!

We better keep the discussion off of these natural resources else we be accused of sexism. By the way, while these two can be said to posses natural resources, I doubt same can be said of mama Pelosi. Despite all the skin stretch due to plastic surgery, McCain's mama still looks more beautiful than her .

@davidylan,

yeah back to the topic . . . no difference. Coulter is simply an uglier version of Palin.

It's more like Palin is a finer version of coultier. there's is nothing ugly about Coultier

The Palin effect is in full force, she's moved the fickle walmart moms over to McCain's side by a whopping 20 points according to latest polls.

The exodus has only just begun. By Novemebr, even Hillary will be voting for the Palin the Baracuda.

@karmaMod,

abeg, go and sit down. The boorish comment has been about your juvenile SEXIST comments towards moi. Has nothing to do with daycare. Stop trying to switch things around. boob this, twin that, they are only listening to you because of your this and that. Comments that i wouldnt expect from a supposed grown man with a family.

I can see you also suffer from selective amnesia. My reference to your esteemed members were due to David's refernce to them. I see they have struck him as particularly important to the discussion. besides, are you not the one coming here and refering to Palin's you-know-what? Please keep your hypocrisy to yourself. It doesn't faze me.

Btw, why would you be offended that I didnt think you'D be for daycare, alot of guys are against daycare and think the mother should spend that time with the kids instead, etc and I figured you were one of them. Why you would see that as an "insult" is beyond me, simple "why do you say that" or "I have no problem with it" would have sufficed instead of trying to be funny where you failed woefully.

maybe you should have asked me questions rather than assuming I hold to one school of thought. Besides, I do not know of anyone who is against Daycare. Why is it only the mother that should spend time with the kids? What about the Dad?

@karmaMod,

My comment has more to do with your boorish behavior towards me being in this thread. I merely used your comment against David as an example of your hypocrisy.

Boorish? That I questioned your thought process isn't boorish. What is boorish is your statement that you don't believe someone like me believes in using the Daycare. How boorish can one get?

@BigB1,

@Tayo-D:
My Friend, it would be pleasant if you simply focus more on the subject; absolutely no need for you to cross the line.

I can see you haven't weaned yourself of that pot. Are your insane qquestions directed at my person part of the subject? You need your head examined.

@Davidylan,

This is more than obvious even to a 2-yr old.

So you knwo the babe very, very well. Hopefully you will write a biography of her in the next few days. You are sure to be a millionaire if you can just share with the world, your intimate knowledge of Palin.

O boy, it seems you forget the general elections is less than 2 months away. When shld the media interview Palin? 2 years after the election?

So the long and short of it is that you agree with my assessment.

@Big B1,

It is obvious to all that you truly do not know or feel this chick at-all, but you hate yourself so much that you have to find a way to make yourself feel better by bringing yourself Obama down.

No need to continue with the baseless back and forth; why not let us do this again toward the end of November 2008?
I'm sure that things will be more clearer at this time.

Can someone tell this guy to wean himself off of the crack he is smoking?

@Ibime,

STFU. . . just admit that the bitch needs to be debriefed before they let her infront of an interviewer.

No doubt she needs to be prepared for the interviews. No one is denying that.

This is what I don't get about you crackpots. . . .do you know how far out Fox news is?. . . . sheeeeet. . . . what do you call a hostile channel?. . . . CNN?. . . . let me tell you, in Europe, NBC is considered to be a centrist channel. . . . . compared to the rubbish bile you guys spit on Fox News, there is no comparison. . . . .I heard a Republican on radio claiming that the media is left wing. . . a left winger came on and said the media is right wing. . . . I have news for all of you. . . . .THE MEDIA IS MOSTLY CENTRIST!. . . . .Kobojunkie came here to tell me CNN is left wing. . . . have you all lost your marbles or is that what Fox News taught you?. . . . GTF out of here!

Foxnews has a host of news Commentators. It appears y'all are mixing the role of a commentator to a presenter together. they are not the same. The guys you rail about are commentators and not presenters, and each commentator has a leaning, either to the right or left, for Fox, its mostly right.

. . . . don't worry, we will send Palin to Guerilla TV. . . . because that is the left wing equivalent to Fox news. . . . bastards!. . . . you think people have your obviously biased, crackpot, redneck time?. . . . you don't even make an attempt at unbiased journalism. . . .at least other networks try to disguise it when they have partizan leanings.

Not the case with NBC who fired their Anchors this week.

@karmaMod,

I think it's funny how Tayo went on and on about David being sexist for his sarcastic remark on what Palin had to bring to the position, when he's the true chauvinistic pig.

I can see your blind love for Davidylan isn't helping your judgment at all. Let me volunteer this information for you free of charge because I like you a wwny tiny bit - Davidylan has a girl waiting for him in the village. You will do well to not waste your affection at all at all.

@davidylan,

no cry abeg. That uncle just dey pull my moustache the wrong way this morning.

Who dash you moustache. Don't let me expose you today o. After adding 'spirit' for so many years without result, you resorted to cheap wigs as moustache.

@Davidylan,

Is that your homework? And you regard yourself as an adult? what a disgrace. O boy no make me go down the roforofo route with you man.

Oh my goodness. It appears I need to send you to evening school in addition to your day school. How can you request a comparison btw A & B, and when that was given to you, you retorted to comparison btw A & C. That is nothing short of F-9.

This is pretty stupid. What is the size of McCain's workforce? On that basis he shld be the VP and Palin the presidential candidate no?

What is stupid is the apparent side-stepping of Palin's background with Obamas.

Pretty dumb. On this basis too McCain does not deserve to be president. While Obama has run arguably the most successful presidential campaign of all time in the US, McCain nearly went bankrupt and almost folded his campaign last yr over financial irregularities. A man who can't balance a campaign budget is your pick for president?

And hillary your pick is still stumping around to bankroll her $12 million debt. The fact that McCain is still here is a testimony to his ability to rise up when one falls. Your attempt to change the real subject here only says Obama has nothing on Palin.

Because "adult" . . . Obama has never been governor.
- Where is the SPECIFIC EXAMPLE of "standing up to the legislative branch of govt"? Arent you tired of rolling out these nebulous propaganda?
She vetoed the "bridge to nowhere" project YET kept the over $200m that congress paid her for it?

Do you know what a Veto is? It is a categorical stand against the Legislature. Not only did she veto the bridge to no-where, she vetoed the State budget to the tune of $2 billion.

"Adult" . . . neither has McCain.

And you forgot to add,neither was Obama and Joe Biden.

So funding the tax rebate by borrowing from China is Obama's fault? Was McCain not in the same Senate that approved such borrowing? Have you ever heard of the APF? It has been in place before Palin became mayor.

The point is that she made something happen that Obama and others could not.

1. Reduced her salary - cheap propaganda.

propaganda or not, that is her record.

2. Sold the governor's jet - yes, at a $600m loss to her friend. What a cool piece of "reform".

You fail to mention that she put it first on ebay for the highest bidder. When ebay didn't work, you have to find another seller. Why the economy with the truth now?

3. fired the governor's cook - is this guy ok?

Every cost-saving measure is appreciated. What are Obama's.

Is that your homework? And you regard yourself as an adult? what a disgrace. O boy no make me go down the roforofo route with you man.

And you have failed woefully. Your recently attained puberty status is making feel like you can take up someone greater than your size. have you not being told that even if a child has more clothes than an adult, he could never have as many rags?

@Davidylan,

lol having kids and being married is not synonymous with being an adult, a 17 yr old can impregnate a woman too. I gave you plenty of homework before, you skillfully dodged all of it.
I try very hard to restrain myself in my choice of words when it comes to you, you honestly don't want me to lose that self restraint. It wont be pretty.

While you know the respect is mutual, you also know the predatory instinct is mutually inborn.

Don't you think it takes a lot of audacity for someone who did know that Ronald Reagan was ever a State Governor (albeit 2 terms), calling another person ignorant?

@Ibime,

Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590)

Is this the same Bill he co-sponsored with 47 other Senators including McCain and yet never followed it during his campaign?

@Davidylan,

Arguing with Tayo-D here is a waste of time. the guy doesnt know anything, sorry to say.

When adults are discussing, you should shut your mouth. In the mean time, I have given you some homework which you are yet to finish. Go respond to the "experience" difference I listed in response to your question.

@Ibime,

-Increased breast cancer funding (597)

There is no Bill like this. Was it enacted in Congo?