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MaxInDHouse:
Whatever you think is not my cup of tea so make yourself clear!

Lol, you claim so many things my guy.
You claim that the prophecies of Isaiah are
1. For the last days
2. When Jesus walked the earth
3. Fulfilled through the pentecost and the eunuch

MaxInDHouse:
Will soon show that destruction of evildoers will come after Jesus declared judgment against those who refused to accept the peacemaking work the friends of peace are doing globally! Luke 19:27

Ask Jehovah's Witnesses to explain to you!

I already asked and I snapped and sent you the result.
The JW quote Isaiah 2.2-4 to teach that God’s Kingdom will soon solve the problems that the 20th century has only intensified: war, poverty, sickness, injustice, hatred, intolerance, unemployment, crime, unhappiness, death
Here it is again.

MaxInDHouse:
When did Jesus first walk the earth?

Guy, whoever speaks against the WORKS of God's Holy Spirit through Jesus' ministry has already as in ALREADY been judged! Matthew 12:31-32 compare to John 3:17-19

Now you have shot yourself in the foot.
Are you saying that Isaiah 2.2-4 was fulfilled when Jesus walked the earth? Is that your last days too?
You claim the JW fulfilled the prophecies and at the same time, the prophecies were fulfilled when Christ walked the earth. Loool

MaxInDHouse:
Olódo!

Do you know what "CEREMONIAL" means?

Well i will teach you.

It means both his friends, enemies and spectators will PHYSICALLY witness the event just as everyone knows about a ceremony!

Oga, you should read a dictionary. Ceremony has nothing to do with friends and enemies. You went to school na.
So a naming ceremony, you gather both friends and enemies of your baby?
Even to a fool, this makes no sense.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not deceiving yourself from where do you think people came to Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost?
What about the Ethiopian eunuch? 2Kings 19:9 compare to Act 8:27

My guy that has been FULFILLED!

For your information all the nations who were waging war against Jerusalem in the past are the same places where these people decided to come and worship the same God their ancestors fought against in the same city they wanted to destroy: Jerusalem!

You say that the promise has been fulfilled that God is judging all nations from Jerusalem because the of pentecost and the eunuch.
So to JW all nations are being judged from Jerusalem. This people are incredible.

MaxInDHouse:
Olódo!

Instead of asking us to TEACH you!

The publication is saying

"These are the signs of the end so all evildoers will soon be gone"

No it doesn't say so let me snap and send.

MaxInDHouse:
This is a parable because according to God's word death is the final punishment for sin! Romans 6:7, 23

You don't even know the meaning of a parable. Consult your dictionary and then we can talk.

Again, how do you know that your interpretation of Romans 6:7, 23 is not the parable here.

MaxInDHouse:
No need to explain.

God will judge based on what is written in His words so if you don't believe what is happening now despite seeing people from different countries around the world joining God's organization to work with the Holy Ones you have been judged already!

You are still not making any sense. What point are you trying to make here sir.
When did this Judgement you are speaking about begin?

MaxInDHouse:
In what manner did Jesus ascend to heaven?

Guy he ascended in a none ceremonial manner so only his disciples knew about his departure and they are the same people who spread the Good News to whoever is willing to accept it just as only Jehovah's Witnesses knew he returned in the year 1914 and telling people who are willing to accept it!

He ascended in a ceremonial manner and when he returns he will be seen in the skies and will stand on a mont. It's all in your Bible but you no dey read.

MaxInDHouse:
Olódo!

Who taught you that?

Let me qoute your publication word for word

Isaiah 2:2-4; Matthew 24:14; Revelation 7:9-15.... God’s Kingdom will soon solve the problems that the 20th century has only intensified: war, poverty, sickness, injustice, hatred, intolerance, unemployment, crime, unhappiness, death.

I am sure you don't agree

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

Jesus is already around since the year 1914 and he's the one who called us out of the world empire of false religion {Revelations 18:4} angels are working with us in gathering sheeplike one storehouse while people according to their mindsets are choosing the religion of their choice! Matthew 13:30
So Jesus is not coming to end wars but destroy all those who believe in using weapons to settle matters!

Rubbish. Jesus is not already around. Read your Bible.
Acts 1.11
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Also read Zechariah 14:4

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Isaiah 2:2-4 is what will help honest hearted and sincere people in our time know the gathering of Holy Ones where God's Holy Spirit is working so that we can join them in the endtime assignment!

You are confused. The argument here is if the prophecies of Isaiah 2.2-4 have come to pass.

According to your church publication. It will be a time when there will be no more war, poverty, sickness, injustice, hatred, intolerance, unemployment, crime, unhappiness, death.

So oga, has that time come yet?

MaxInDHouse:
God will judge.
On what basis?

Please explain your question

MaxInDHouse:
Punishment after which punishment again? Romans 6:7

Revelations 20
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus has COMMANDED his disciples that they must LOVE their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} LOVE and pray for their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} and the only proof that they are his disciples is the LOVE that permeates their gathering! John 13:34-35

It's on this basis that Jesus is coming to KILL all those who disregard his COMMANDMENT! Luke 19:27 compare to Matthew 28:19

Your entire answer here makes no sense. Is Jesus Christ coming to judge the nations or not? When he comes, will he end wars between the nations or not? Isaiah 2.2-4

For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. Is the Word of God coming from out of Jerusalem today? No.
Again read
Zechariah 14:16 – "And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Has the period spoken of above come to pas No

You can't force prophecy. You have to wait for God's time.
I have taught you that the prophecies in Isaiah 2.2-4 has nothing to do with your organization or your beliefs. Nothing there points to your Organization. Please stop forcing it.

Is Christ judging the nations today? No
Is there war between nations today? Yes.
Was Isaiah 2.2-4 talking about today? No. It was talking about a future time. QED

MaxInDHouse:
Olódo!

In the last days life will become difficult due to people becoming more wicked and immoral! 2Timothy 3:1-5

What will lead to this sudden change in the attitude of earth's inhabitants?
Michael (Jesus) will drive away Satan out of heaven he knows there's only a short period of time for him! Revelations 12:7-12

What will help God's people to keep their godliness?
They will use the scriptures to TEACH, REPROOF, SET MATTERS STRAIGHT and DISCIPLINE obedient members of God's flock {2Timothy 3:16} so that those who are meek among them could become fully competent and completely equipped children of God! 2Timothy 3:17

So what will Jesus do to the rest of earth's inhabitants who failed to make good use of this provisions?
He will ask his armies to exterminate them all! Luke 19:27

It's not just a JW doctrine but what is found written in the Bible!

So JW publication qouted Isaiah 2:2-4; to teach that. God’s Kingdom will soon solve the problems that the 20th century has only intensified: war, poverty, sickness, injustice, hatred, intolerance, unemployment, crime, unhappiness, death.

But you come here to tell us that you have somehow fulfilled Isaiah 2.2-4?
So is Isaiah 2.2-4 taking about this present day or the day when Christ will come?
In the publication, Isaiah 2.2-4 was qouted as a time when there will be no more war, poverty, sickness, injustice, hatred, intolerance, unemployment, crime, unhappiness, death.
So from that, you should know that the days of Isaiah 2. 2-4 are not now.
Read your own publication for crying out loud.

MaxInDHouse:
How will God render judgement and set matters straight among His worshipers?

Apostle Paul answered:

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness" 2Timothy 3:16

So it's by studying God's word just as Jesus (God's son) instructed them to do among themselves {Matthew 28:19-20} that they will resolve all their disparities peacefully among themselves.
Jesus prayed to his father to SANCTIFY Jehovah's Witnesses by His word! John 17:17

Is this JW doctrine or not?

That Kingdom, with Christ as King, started gathering here upon the earth God-fearing people who were desirous of being its subjects.—Isaiah 2:2-4; Matthew 24:14; Revelation 7:9-15.... God’s Kingdom will soon solve the problems that the 20th century has only intensified: war, poverty, sickness, injustice, hatred, intolerance, unemployment, crime, unhappiness, death

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't believe we are living in the last days that's your cup of coffee!

Isaiah's prophecy said:


In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Isaiah 2:2

It's these people from the nations who responded to the call for peace by Jesus' disciples that verse 4 is referring to not all the inhabitants of the earth otherwise there can't be any destruction if the entire inheritants of the earth responded to the call from the Prince of Peace!

This is not a case of what I believe or what you believe. Again you don't understand prophecies. The same Isaiah tells you that Jesus will judge all nations and there will no more be wars but you refused to believe. You can't adopt a few sentences and discard the rest

MaxInDHouse:
If all nations will end war automatically then who are those to be destroyed for ruining the planet with their weapons of war? Revelations 11:18
Who are the people that will keep fighting and killing themselves in the last days? Revelations 6:3-4; 19:18

Very bad question. You mean that after all the wars end, God should no longer punish sinners? Please make it make sense. The bible tells us that the dead will be resurected and judged. You are saying that because wars will end God will no longer punish the wicked? Na wa oh.

MaxInDHouse:
How will God render judgement and set matters straight among His worshipers?

Apostle Paul answered:

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness" 2Timothy 3:16

So it's by studying God's word just as Jesus (God's son) instructed them to do among themselves {Matthew 28:19-20} that they will resolve all their disparities peacefully among themselves.
Jesus prayed to his father to SANCTIFY Jehovah's Witnesses by His word! John 17:17

Guesswork king. You are just mixing scriptures that don't relate. God will judge all nations that's what we are taught none of the verses you quoted even relate a bit.

MaxInDHouse:
Well those nations still at war presently are DEAD from God's standpoint {Luke 9:60} because Jesus will order his angels to destroy them all {Luke 19:27} Satan the killer is their god {John 8:44; 2 Corinthians 4:4} that's why they are fighting and killing themselves! Revelations 6:3-4
That's why God's word said only meek people will inherit the earth! Zephaniah 2:2-3; Matthew 5:5

The point remains that God clearly stated that all nations will end war. It doesn't matter if they are dead to him or not. His words will come to pass. A time is coming when all wars will end. So stop the guess work because even your church doctrines go against your words. Your church says,
God’s Kingdom will soon solve the problems that the 20th century has only intensified: war, poverty, sickness, injustice, hatred, intolerance, unemployment, crime, unhappiness, death.—See Psalm 37:10, 11; 46:8, 9; 72:12-14, 16; Isaiah 2:4; 11:3-5; 25:6, 8; 33:24; 65:21-23; John 5:28, 29; Revelation 21:3, 4.
You are a confused organization. Your teachings clash and make no sense.

MaxInDHouse:
OK you are in doubt about the last days?

Well the nations referred to hear are His own worshipers from all the nations who will used His word to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop the making, buying, selling and using of weapons, vow never to raise weapons against their neighbors and never learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:4
For your information that is what Jesus' teaching will achieve throughout the earth making us WITNESSES of the fact that the Prince of Peace has walked this planet and established peace among his disciples! Act 1:8

1. You were unable to use the bible to show that these are the last days.
2. Again you go into guesswork. He never said the nations described are his people. You invented that. The Lord is very intelligent he doesn't need you to teach him what to say. He clearly says that all nations will end war. Please provide the verse that says the nations are his people.

Below is a JW publication that shows that you don't know what you are saying. Even your church is teaching a different thing.

That Kingdom, with Christ as King, started gathering here upon the earth God-fearing people who were desirous of being its subjects.—Isaiah 2:2-4; Matthew 24:14; Revelation 7:9-15.... God’s Kingdom will soon solve the problems that the 20th century has only intensified: war, poverty, sickness, injustice, hatred, intolerance, unemployment, crime, unhappiness, death.—See Psalm 37:10, 11; 46:8, 9; 72:12-14, 16; Isaiah 2:4; 11:3-5; 25:6, 8; 33:24; 65:21-23; John 5:28, 29; Revelation 21:3, 4.
g99 12/8 pp. 10-12 - Awake!—1999
A Good-bye to War (‎2 occurrences)
And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples.”—Isaiah 2:3, 4.... Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore.”—Isaiah 2:4.
g99 9/22 pp. 7-9 - Awake!—1999
A Secure Future at Last! (‎2 occurrences)
Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore.”—Isaiah 2:4.... “Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore.”—Isaiah 2:4

Even your people say this is a time
God’s Kingdom will soon solve the problems that the 20th century has only intensified: war, poverty, sickness, injustice, hatred, intolerance, unemployment, crime, unhappiness, death. So according to your church teaching, has the time come?

achorladey:
He wants you to believe that that nation is Jehovah's witnesses religious organization. Once you accept that then he can easily tell you they are the only peaceful religious organization in the world

But that's not what the bible says. JW is not a nation.

cr7lomo:
U sure say u be graduate...who told u thatvcrap... so u think those with bad behavior that are caught going against the school rules end up getting certificates... see person wey I de even waste my time ... I even taught u were normal

And it's the so called graduate that begins to insult. You are not too different from the girl you accuse.

cr7lomo:
Morals are also a part of education...not only academics...and if a person fails in morals as well..they person should be kicked out ...

Ok, let's educate only the most moral people in society and see what our society will become.

MaxInDHouse:
So if Christians are fighting against their own fellow believers and killing them what happens to Jesus' command? John 13:34-35

Be careful what you will type o because people killing their fellow believers are spiritual descendants of Cain! John 8:44

Oga, the prophecies you spoke of speaks of a time nations will no longer be at war. Is that not what your Bible says?

achorladey:
A religious organization that will hang on lies and manipulations just to look good in the eyes of others or advance their self righteousness.

How many times have you seen Janosky and these ones hang on to the words of trinitarians to advance their agenda and at the same time say trinitarians are false Christians.


The delusions in that concocted Jehovah's organization didn't start today

The guy always traps himself. Thanks to his inferior beliefs

MaxInDHouse:
"In the final part of the days" Isaiah 2:2

That's what God's word says.

Please final part of which days?
Good times or towards the end of badness?

I don't understand your point here please explain sir. It says in the last days. Are you saying that these are the last days?
Now even if these are the last days, it says other things. It speaks about a time nations will no longer be at war definitely not now.

MaxInDHouse:
Cry cry baby!

God made a promise and a global family emerged fulfilling it by catching people in all the nations making them surrender their weapons willingly yet you say it's not God's doing!

Well Jesus said whoever speaks against him will be forgiven but whoever speaks against the evidence of God's Holy Spirit will never be forgiven! Matthew 12:31-32

If you are condemning the works of God's Holy Spirit that's affecting people from all the nations your case don get K-leg o!

So again you have failed to show how those promises had anything to do with you.
The bible speaks of a time when nations will no longer fight other nations and when Jesus Christ with judge the nations. You can't force the bible to refer to you. Faithful christians are waiting for the time spoken if by the prophet. They are not forcing weird interpretations that they can't defend.

MaxInDHouse:
Is this not what that actor said?

If all those claiming Christians in Russia and Ukraine are Jehovah's Witnesses will there be war?

NO!

The bible did not say that Christians would not fight each other, it says nations would not fight each other. Since nations continue to fight, your interpretation of the prophecies are wrong.
On the actor, let's just say I doy depend on actors to understand the word of God and it's a pity if you do.

cr7lomo:
Morals are also a part of education...not only academics...and if a person fails in morals as well..they person should be kicked out ...

Morals are not part of formal education. You don't need to be a moral person to understand thermodynamics. And yes, she has been kicked out but you seem to be saying that she shouldn't be allowed into any other school. That goes beyond kicking her out.

MaxInDHouse:
Isaiah 2:2-4

Only Jehovah's Witnesses formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers throughout the world!

As I said, you can't verify and here is why?
First how can you tell these are the days Isaiah was speaking of?
Secondly, it speaks of a day when Jesus Christ will judge among the nations. As of today, Jesus Christ isn't the Judge of the nations.
Thirdly, he wasn't even speaking about an organization.
So falsely interpretation of the bible isn't the same as fulfilling prophecy .
Fourthly it says, nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Russia and Ukraine are still fighting. Nations are still lifting their guns against other nations so it was clearly not speaking of the same thing that you are talking about.