European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 1:56pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
joviegghead: The stats are based on La liga only right? Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Messi losing possession can be truly worrying. But, dwelling on that and declaring him as terrible doesn't just sound okay.
The only thing we can hope for is that things gets better for messi and his form improves(goalscoring and in other aspects possible). I think the Messi we've known over time makes it difficult to accept the messi we know now.
There's nothing we can do. But the guy is trying. That's the reason I hate it when people decide to single him out and criticise him as if he's meant to be perfect. There are other positives to his performance.
Maybe he can do better. We'll just have to wait. The season is still young.
As for the free role position, who do think is better to hold that position? Take on success Messi 63 percent and Griezman 100 percent. Maybe Messi attempted 100 take ons in 6 games and got 63. Griezman must have attempted only 5 take ons in 6 games and got all 5. And that's 100 percent abi?  That's an example of how inconsequential those screen shots are. *These screen shots keep showing possesion lost without showing possession won. Why?  Do these screen shots make any sense if player A had possesion 500 times and lost 50 times. While players B,C, had possesions only 100 times and lost only 30 times? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by tesppidd: 10:37am On Nov 04, 2020 |
Agbegbaorogboye: And your obsession with PDP glorifies you right? When you're ignorant, you keep quiet and learn instead of coming out to advertise your idiocy  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by tesppidd: 10:17am On Nov 04, 2020 |
Agbegbaorogboye: Oya ask yourself. Who has mentioned APC or PDP since this thread. Judge the level of your iq with that. Old man you have messed up already with that your comment. Accept your L and keep it moving.  |
Politics › Re: UN Urges Investigation Into Shooting Of Peaceful Protesters At Lekki by tesppidd: 10:15am On Nov 04, 2020 |
TOPCRUISE: Shooting that nobody died. Is it still a shooting We want names of those that died. They said 78 people were shot but I have seen the list of the 78  My brother I tire ooh. If you talk now it will be as if You're not sympathetic with the 2 confirmed deaths and the remaining wounded. These people are still chasing CCTV upandan. When the simplest thing to do is just to name the identities and addresses of the people that were massacred. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 10:03am On Nov 04, 2020 |
Ibukzy: Lmao so what does expert looks at is it ratings? does ratings of a player contribute to winning a trophy for a club? Mind you i am not sentimental neither emotional about this, i am just being objective as a supporter of fc barcelona , what come first is the club not the player even if he is the G.O.A.T This season Messi has been poor even for general standard as he is the leader of the team and even the attack of barcelona, and he needs to improve or take some time off All right then. Very good explanation by the way. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 9:54am On Nov 04, 2020 |
joviegghead: Bottom line: Critic: Messi has been poor in front of goal. YES! and its worrying. No goals from open play in what seems like forever!
Defense: True! He has been poor. But his performances for the team is quite good for a 33 year old. Expectations for goal scoring shouldn't be placed highly for him.
He taking more shots means other attackers should even be questioned.
I'm sorry. Did I miss something?!  Yes you did. The part where he's slobbing around the pitch lazilly and not tracking back to the post when he loses the ball. And the part where other attackers in the team have hit double digits already. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by tesppidd: 9:46am On Nov 04, 2020 |
MT: Don't spread rumour. The election staff worked through the nite. They wanted to rest to avoid error. Trump is in a good Pole position but you need to calm down. No mind that guy. He don carry im backward mentality go America. He thinks this is a PDP matter.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 9:41am On Nov 04, 2020 |
joviegghead: Tesspidd,
If people wanna criticize Messi, its okay to defend. But if they still think their criticism is valid after that, there's no point dragging the issue. I mean, for 2-3 days?
Same goes to others Hahahaha I thought it was over since 2 days ago until the one that calls himself homesteady dragged me out again today. I guess he only wanted to have the last say so I've let that one have the last say since it means so much to him. Am done with the subject. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 9:36am On Nov 04, 2020 |
Ibukzy: Judging Messi by other general standards you say Messi only has 0 open play goal this season He has 1 assist in La Liga He has only created 1 big chances this season
So by general standards has he been poor this season yes/no Don't let sentiments and emotions becloud your judgement. Experts look beyond goals and assists for their ratings; That is why most of you could never comprehend when we said way back that Messi can play an exceptional game even without a goal and assist. Below is all I have to say to you; Take a look at the screenshot below; That column in red reads "rating" What is the meaning of rating? Could you explain to us?
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 9:14am On Nov 04, 2020 |
homesteady: [s]You are so autocratic... you are now even forcing a selling point on me 
1) Thank God! At least we are going somewhere now... So you agree that he has to improve with his scoring right?
2) If you are judging from the Whoscored stats you posted, I already explained it to you. Dribbles and passes factors heavily in their ratings and Messi has a lot of that because of his free role. That rating doesn't cover his ease of losing possession, his poor decision making, his unsuccessful dribbles especially close to or in the 18 box.
You are failing to realise that the role Messi plays is the most essential role in this team, therefore how he plays is quite significant. We are lucky that Keoman has made us less dependent on Messi sef, because it would have been disastrous. It's just like how they use to say before that "when Busquets has a bad day, the team suffers".
A more sensible argument from you would have been that he is gelling with the new players and new tactics, he is missing Suarez. You can easily put the blame on lack of rest, which is what I said from the beginning. But no, you decided to turn this into a circus.
Like I said earlier, Messi needs to agree to start resting, he needs to take a week off, clear his head off any distraction, then he can come back and see how useful he can be to the team. He did it when Enrique had problems fitting MSN into the team and I believe he can do it again.
Tainks. [/s] Am done with you hom Have a good day. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 8:56am On Nov 04, 2020 |
Sommyroy10: [Mundo Deportivo] Dynamo Kiev arrive to Barcelona with 13 players. The minimum that UEFA states. If another player tests positive, the match will be suspended. Suspended or Cancelled? Wouldn't mind it being cancelled. Let the players rest for Betis on Saturday. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 8:41am On Nov 04, 2020 |
homesteady: I don't know if you guys know Barcelona football club, I've been following the site for years now. So read this article
http://www.barcelonafootballblog.com/27833/alaves-1-barca-1-aka-dont-even-start-with-the-hashtags/
Tesppidd, please also read it. Read it? The article must be from God Himself? The question here is ; Why are you still dragging me for my opinion? Back off me would you. This worst version of Messi can make the best play maker in the world. Drag Griezman and Braithwaite for your goals. I am done with this convo. Homeunsteady pls stop quoting me. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 8:34am On Nov 04, 2020*. Modified: 10:39am On Nov 04, 2020 |
homesteady: I can bet that if Messi scores today, Tesppidd will come here and start mocking his phantom Messi haters 
I'm so sure of this. What's all these noise about scoring? He's been scoring the past 4 seasons while we've been getting dumped by Roma, Liverpool, Madrid and Bayern. I got dragged over that. So once again your train of thought is at best comparable with a refurbished second-handed train from China. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 8:28am On Nov 04, 2020 |
homesteady: Mr man are you on your period? Because that should be part of the reasons for your irrational posts.
You are not willing to understand what people are saying, you just have a preset mindset and you are just ready to attack.
The point of saying he has only scored from PK is to highlight how poor he has been in front of the post especially due to him having the highest shots on target. Tesppid, it is called ANALYSIS!! It is not bad belle! Not everyone has a warped mind like you.
The only antecedent I know here is you not knowing you can actually criticize someone you like. From all your opinions so far it is evident that you have attained intellectual menopause. I really do think so. 1. We have all agreed that he has been poor in front of goal. So drop that line, i know it's your selling point but it's not selling anymore with any reasonable person. 2. The issue I have is people like you trying to turn logic on it's head. You seem not to understand that despite his goal drought he remains the best performing player in team. And any opinion anybody has along that line you just shut it down, you don't wanna hear it. For the umpteenth time, criticize him all you want, but for me I refuse to criticize him because he and Fati are still the best players in the team this season; goal or no goal. Your opinions are so elementary like a feather on clean water.It's stays afloat. It's time to stop judging Messi by Messi's standards, judge him by the general standards. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 8:04am On Nov 04, 2020 |
In the 2013/14 season Messi went 8 consecutive games without a single goal, not even a penalty goal.
Many said he was finished. Many said crucify him, crucify him. Messi said away with him. Many said sell him, sell him.
Guess what!
Since then, he has won personally;
*2 Ballon dors, *3 European Golden boots, *3 Pichichis, *1 FIFA World Cup Golden ball. *1 Copa America Golden Ball, *Broken Numerous Goal Records, *Broken Numerous Assists Records. *Being Barca's top scorer every season since then till date.
This is all after that said he was dead and finished. This isn't criticism, this is being fickle and ungrateful.
Now it is time you critics/haters shut the fuccck up and let this man age in peace.
Let him age!! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 7:46am On Nov 04, 2020 |
homesteady: This Tesppidd has serious issues. This is definitely not normal. It's really frightening.
Well, like I said before, I'm not surprised. With all due respect, you're very silly for this comment. That is with all due respect. Now let's end it here, believe what you believe and let me. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 7:44am On Nov 04, 2020 |
homesteady: Is it only goals I spoke about?[b][/b] What of the other aspects of his game I spoke about? Or you can't remember? But you can remember what some Barcelona fans here said almost 2 centuries ago? You are just one of the problems. What else could you be talking about.? *He has the best performance in the team according to whoscored.com and other match rating websites. *He has played a role in most of the goals the team has scored. The only issue I see is that Messi is not scoring from open play.. If you are still expecting Messi to be dribbling 4 and 5 players at this age as he was doing 10 years ago then you're day dreaming. You guys should let this guy age in peace na!. Let him age.!! Messi does not own this club, he does not possess a magic wand. Focus your energy of Griezman and co. Stop quoting me and taking me back pls. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 5:03am On Nov 04, 2020 |
homesteady: So those that wanted him out 3 months ago did so based on his performance on the field?
This is getting unnecessarily long. Let me ask you a simple question. Will you prefer Messi keep this his current form throughout the rest of this season? And those that wanted him out 6 years ago simply because he went some 6 games without scoring, did it based on what? His performance in bed? 33 years old, not scoring goals yet, still none performing better than him. Henceforth, I stop arguing with any Barca fan, Everybody do your support however you want to do it. What y'all eat don't make me shit. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 4:49am On Nov 04, 2020*. Modified: 5:22am On Nov 04, 2020 |
homesteady: So those that wanted him out 3 months ago did so based on his performance on the field?
This is getting unnecessarily long. Let me ask you a simple question. Will you prefer Messi keep this his current form throughout the rest of this season? He's scored a few goals this season; And the issue is; THE GOALS ARE NOT FROM OPEN PLAY.When he starts scoring goals from open play the issue will be; THE GOALS ARE AGAINST BOTTOM TEAMS LIKE EIBER, OSASUNA AND HUESCA.
And if he scores against big teams like Real Madrid and Sevilla the issue will shift to; THE GOALS DID NOT WIN ANY TROPHY, IT IS STATS PADDING.We know your antecedents. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 4:43am On Nov 04, 2020 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 4:37am On Nov 04, 2020*. Modified: 6:14am On Nov 04, 2020 |
homesteady: So those that wanted him out 3 months ago did so based on his performance on the field?
This is getting unnecessarily long. Let me ask you a simple question. Will you prefer Messi keep this his current form throughout the rest of this season? Of course I would want him to score more goals. But if what he's giving us today is the best he can give at 33, still quite impressive. But there's something I would want even more; Griezman, Dembele, and Fati to deliver 50 percent of what Messi delivered to us when he had turned 25. Just 50 percent and we're good. If that trio can do that, and we're winning matches, people are definitely going to reduce how they look up to Messi for salvation. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 10:17pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
homesteady: Has there been any time that these 10 real Madrid fans are not criticising Messi? Are you saying you can't differentiate between trolling and criticism?
You are just unnecessarily trying to cause a divide here. You have admitted to been overtly sentimental by saying you don't criticize players who are out of form, so allow others to objectively criticize such players which is the normal thing to do, without you having to hunt them down.
What's the point of this thread if we can't discuss problems that the players are going through? Or Are we just supposed to be silent and pretend like everything is perfect?
There is no Barcelona fan that will maliciously talk bad about Messi's performance. Nobody here is condemning Messi, we are just talking his game and possible causes of this temporal loss of form. If you feel people are wrong, you should logically dispute their points. And for the bolded part here; There is a flip side. People also hunt others down who defend Messi or look beyond goals to praise him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 10:04pm On Nov 03, 2020*. Modified: 10:21pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
homesteady: Has there been any time that these 10 real Madrid fans are not criticising Messi? Are you saying you can't differentiate between trolling and criticism?
You are just unnecessarily trying to cause a divide here. You have admitted to been overtly sentimental by saying you don't criticize players who are out of form, so allow others to objectively criticize such players which is the normal thing to do, without you having to hunt them down.
What's the point of this thread if we can't discuss problems that the players are going through? Or Are we just supposed to be silent and pretend like everything is perfect?
There is no Barcelona fan that will maliciously talk bad about Messi's performance. Nobody here is condemning Messi, we are just talking his game and possible causes of this temporal loss of form. If you feel people are wrong, you should logically dispute their points. Indeed! And those that wanted him sold in 2014, where do you categorise them?. Was that part of discussing the problems too? Those that wanted him out 3 months ago, where do you categorise them? Was that part of discussing the problems too? Mtcheew. Just speak for yourself okay. Speak for yourself! |
Sports › Re: Maradona To Undergo Surgery For Blood Clot In Brain by tesppidd: 9:26pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
Maradona's health challenges are numerous.
I hope that God grants him a long life. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 7:13pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 4:57pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
joviegghead: You're complaining.
Koeman might shock you with something else. Maybe worse. My issue is even the bench; When you reeled that line up I just thought about the bench. Who's there? Dembele, Fati, Busquets, maybe Alena. Who else sef. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 3:31pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
joviegghead: Barcelona possible starting lineup:
Neto; Dest, Pique, Lenglet, Alba; Pjanic, De Jong; Trincao, Messi, Pedri; Griezmann SMH Squad looks so thin. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 12:42pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
 TLona1: At the end of the day, Messi is still the GOAT.
The goals will definitely come again in abundance and we'll get back to winning ways. Make una just chill for that little man. You're like, you don't know that even If Messi eventually returns 100 goals but doesn't win the champions league or even la liga, what would they now say? Stats padding Bro, Stats padding. Those lamenting about goals from open play, they shall call it stat padding still. Even some so called Barca fans will say the some thing. Anyways the priority is La Liga and the UCL. Any of the attackers; Messi, Dembele, Griezman, Fati whose goals at every point would lead us to the trophies is highly welcomed. Anybody who likes, should continue counting number of times dispossesed or number of goals in open play. That's not important right now. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 11:43am On Nov 03, 2020 |
Ibukzy: Lmao baba you need to be calming down, Messi has been poor since the restart for his standard, it ain't a lie This season he has been taking a lot of shot, without scoring which is affecting Barca position in La Liga And criticizing Messi doesnt means we hate him, you are just too over-protective of the G.O.A.T I do not criticize my players for losing form. I criticize my players for not putting in effort. That's the reason why I spent days defending players like Pique, Vidal, Alba, Rakitic. A lot of people here criticize a player on Sunday and praise him on Wednesday. Then criticize him again on Saturday. Class is permanent, form is temporary. Criticizing a player every time he loses form smirks of ingratitude. Your criticisms here can never make them improve because they have got no nairaland accounts. So the best thing is to pick the positives from their game no matter how little instead of highlighting their negatives at every opportunity. ( AS LONG AS THEY SWEAT FOR THE SHIRT) I don't criticize a player for not playing well, I criticize a player for not giving his best. |
Politics › Re: #endbadgovernance:Youth Who Drank Beer On Bad Road In Owerri Allegedly Arrested by tesppidd: 7:31am On Nov 03, 2020 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 11:59pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
homesteady: Ahh.... are you trying to say that Messi has been more criticised than Griezmann and Dembele on this thread? We only have 2 or 3 Barca fans criticizing Messi. Then we have 10 real madrid fans criticizing Messi. Then you all team up. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 11:57pm On Nov 02, 2020*. Modified: 8:27am On Nov 03, 2020 |
pu7pl3: You won't have any more feet left after this...considering how many times you've shot yourself in em with these screenshots  If logic was a drug, your body would develop an immunity and you still wouldn't have a clue. You need to think deep to understand my point... Deep thinking..  |