₦airaland Forum

CSTR2:
Yes, America may have ''belonged'' initially to the American Indians, but the majority of americans today are descendants of immigrants who came together to form a nation.
America began with 13 colonies, but some states decided to join the union out of sheer benefit. It was not forced.
Infact they are some independent ''countries'' that wants to be part of the US today which congress has not agreed to.
Scotland recently had a referendum where the majority wants to remain british. That is what it means to be organic.
Ireland, Scotland wants to be part of the UK.
Nigeria on the other hand has different groups fighting to break out. How do you then develop?

If you know about American history, you would know Texas, New Mexico were annexation from Mexico. Shortly after Obamas re-election there was strong petition for the secession Texas. America fought a Civil war (north vs south) to keep the Union intact.

The history behind the formation GB is appalling, babies and women were murdered and their skulls were displayed to get the rebels to surrender under Queen Elizabeth.

bukster:
Thank You!
I was just about to write that. Some people do not know their history and then come to Nairaland sprouting rubbish.

Lol you already know,this is Nairalaland.

Let's start a viral hash tag on twitter
#will I ever see Nigeria like this

And shame these Visionless mofos in power

CSTR2:
There is nohing incredible about this list at all.
The only thing worth knowing is 19.
Integration of the territories at colonization was by force.
There was nothing organic about Nigeria. All the great nations in the world today were created organically, USA, UK, australia, china, e.t.c

You bro, have no Idea what you're talking about.
America was taken from the Native Americans by the Europeans. America started with 13 colonies, today America has 50 states.
In the case of UK England forcefully annexed Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
Australia was a land inhabited by Aborigines....the case is similar to that of America's

xtrorse:
Stating that kidnapping is rampant in the East is a blatant lie. In Nigeria of today kidnapping is rampant in Yorubaland. Verify the stats from crime fighters!

It's well over a century ago since your Oyo Empire lost Ilorin city and its environs to the superior Fulani warriors. And ever since then Yorubas would rather look for Igbos to blame than challenge the frequent onslaught of the marauding Fulanis in SW.

Igbos cannot pitch a slave against his master. Igbos are too busy to engage in such petty things like Yorubas do.

Try advise your Yorubas folks to cease getting unnecessarily agitated and going after threads on IPOB with their mudslingings. It's pathetic already!

I wish you and your kinsmen well in your OduaArewanistan republic!

Well thank you for enlightening me on my history and how we were conquered by the "Superior Fulani army". Even if your recounti is true, the interesting thing about human history is that cities and kingdoms and vast empires have been conquered. Rome conquered Egypt, England conquered Ireland, Wales and Scotland.

What is unique about Ilorin is that a city that was conquered is still primarily Yoruba. And I guess the tourist who traveled through Nigeria pre-independence suprisingly never felt enough Fulani presence to write about. Even on Kwaratv After Yoruba which is default, the two other languages that come on for the News is Nupe and Baruten never once Fulani.

But you're the expert. Like I said I don't give a hoot what Igbo's do.....honestly if Igbo's want out today they'll get it, yall just have to organize yourself and speak with one voice. My Father have always said there is no way this Country won't divide and I see it too now.

xtrorse:
You should have tried answering the important questions I posed to you.

Igbos are not like Yorubas who are very verbal, bile-filled, hateful, greedy and envious and have the habit of using touts and political thugs to harass, maim, loot and destroy the means of livelihoods of lawful citizens in Lagos.

Recall that immediately after Nigeria's independence in 1960 the South-West region began to boil and heat up the polity with 'Operation Wetie' resulting great arson and mass murder till the Army boys struck and the rest is history.

Remember, the famous paper delivered by Sanusi Lamido Sanusi where he stated unequivocally that "YORUBAS ARE THE PROBLEM WITH NIGERIA"! It's to falsely accuse the peace-loving and industrious Igbo people. Consult Google and gain more insight about your people.

One thing is certain that Yoruba tribe takes pride in lies, falsehood, noise-making, propaganda, abuse and slurs. You can't explain that away!

You had pretended as if you're not in the know of the numerous threats and accusations of your Yoruba tribe against the Great Igbo Nation for dare seeking self-determination.

Recently, your folks instead of confronting their Fulani masters chose to cowardly put the blame of Falae's abduction on Igbos. It's really a pity Igbos have shared a country with unrepentant and mischievous hypocrites.

No one has the monopoly of violence. That Igbos are many in Lagos is a great advantage to the Igbos no matter the Yoruba States around Lagos.

So you can feign ignorance of the very obvious in the polity as you like. But the atrocious deeds of your forbears has great repercussions. It's a matter of time!

I wish you and your people well in your OduaArewanistan republic.

A quick read of our dialogue and the very first Igbo comments will beg to differ with your notion of Yoruba being spiteful and hateful....funnily enough my first conscious interaction with Igbo people as a 6 yeard old kid when I visited my extended family in Lagos from Kwara state, it was toxic! the woman was so full of hate, which I'm sure she fed her kids as well....but if you think Yorubas are "hate-filled, envious, greedy" can't really fault your opinion, you are entitled to it.
True no one has monopoly on violence, but if you also believe having Igbo's spread across the west as minorities is good for the Igbo tribe if anything crazy should happen....then by all means you can think that.

I would understand why there would be suspicions about Igbo being involved in the Kidnapped of Falae.....the evidence is kidnapping is rampant in the east, and with the way Igbo's have been trying tirelessly to pitch West against the North....it is a possibility, not that Igbo's did it, but it is called "considering all the evidence"

Last but not least Fvck Sanusi and what he said, together with the North and Fvck the East too.....Nigeria will breakup and we will all have peace of mind.

xtrorse:
Nice to read that fact from you. Kudos!

Ever since you were born, have you seen or heard anywhere Igbos are on rampage, killing people and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause?

Have any prominent Igbo personality insulted or maligned your father or tribe?

Before 2015 general elections certain persons like FFK, Fayose, Fashola, Tinubu, Lai, El Rufai, Junaid Mohammed, Obj and Sahara Reporters made careless utterances thereby heating up the polity. Is any of them Igbo? Did you and your folks ever countered them?

During the build up to the general elections, did you condemn the highly inciting Radio Chanji in the North?

During the June 12, 1993 saga, Radio Kudirat was hitting the airwaves and inciting the public, did any of your elites dared express their disapproval?

But while at it, have you and your elites ever countered the hate messages being preached in various mosques and the unconscionable, cold-hearted waste of human lives and reckless destruction of means of livelihoods that have been going on for decades in the North and the Middle-belt?

If your answer is in the negative it shows that you've only survived and flourished at the expense of others by virtue of the injustice, inequity and lopsided arrangement in the polity coupled with your cowardly and slavish mentality and reasoning...

You don't go on killing sprees because you're at a disadvantage if it ever should happen, there are more of your people in other parts of the country than vice versa, If your group was in a position to subdue other groups they would surely take it.
Although Igbos do not have a history of physical violence towards Yoruba people but they are verbally spiteful and hatemongers, these can arguably be said to have been the precursor to Nigeria's history as we know it.
But I like how u said I have "flourished and survived on injustice,"...fvck yeah, Jobs are easy to find here in the southwest, the education is world class, infrastructures are first world standards, health care is superb, income per capita is second to non on the Continent.... While I enjoy these "amazing benefits" according to you I'm also a coward with a slavish mentality, and there's no other reason than being born and raised in the Yoruba culture. Lol

But like I said the great Biafra awaits you and your people.

xtrorse:
You tribe or mine, we shall surely know who is mischievous or making sense and who will be rueful eventually...

The endgame is gonna be a split, like your people are already abusively Demanding for, you can then sail off into the sunset and show the world what the Igbo spirit is made of.

xtrorse:
From your first comment you shouldn't have bothered concealing your hypocritical bigotry while appearing to be objective defending the indefensible Quota System on Unity Schools admission.

From your trainings you understood by books that exercising one's franchise right in a democratic setting is tantamount to killing oneself politically.

I don't need to blame you for how low you can sink to support injustice. I blame myself for being made to be in the same country filled with hypocritical bigots with bizarre understanding.

Time shall tell who will be rueful...

Of course only time shall tell, you have the right exercise your ideas and beliefs, Those with opposing views also have the right to same, when the opposing view supersedes then it only makes sense to bring people with same ideals on board.....Majority of Igbos supported Jonathan, so why bring them on board when they have opposing views.

when you fail to give undue attention to those who dearly crave it they do more, especially when they say bad shiit about you, they say even more crazy shiit, because when you don't respond, paranoia kicks in. Classic example is what's going on with this Guy.

In France her mates were made to have a taste of the delicious Guillotine during the French revolution.

xtrorse:
From your logic and reasoning it then means excluding the SE from the 40 important political appointments made so far by the present administration is rocket science.

Try some other tales...

it seems to be, because you killed yourselves politically, so swerve with that political bullshit.
I bet you think Jonathan's administration is the best thing to have ever happened in your life too.

warrior01:
Can you imagine; in this time and age someone from sokoto needs only 7 to get admission over a person from Anambra that scored 65 and some morons sees nothing wrong with it

it simply means the competition in the east is high, so to get into such schools, coming from the east you have to match your peers. if the North starts getting some sense and they start seeing the value in formal education as supposed to "Arabically" and "Islamically" brainwashing and cheating their kids from acquiring the necessary skills to compete and become positively contributing individuals in the society, the competition would improve and every region would be leveled all out. It is not rocket science bro.

what can I say, Nigeria is one fvcked up place, with the way things are, and with the immense brainwashed and brain dead people walking freely all over Nigeria, that place will never achieve any significant feet in the next 200 years, if there's a place to be called Nigeria then.

The average Nigerian mind thinks in a "if it is not black then it is white" order, objective reasoning is a lacking value in the Nigerian society and it s displayed here on Nairaland, a sense of independence and self worth is absent, last but not least Nigerians suffer a serious case dementia and devil's advocate.

CuckoldMaster:
See this incestuous and fetish yoruba slave. You Guys are products of incest or rape no wonder you behave this way. You all think the same. Your post proves it.

You think you have won by siding with Awusa Fulani. Lol. They take you people as cowards.

The truth is, as far as Nigeria is concerned, us the so called "slave" have precedence over you free primal Hominids. I don't give a hoot what a Northerner thinks about Yoruba neither do I give a rats ass what you tribal deranged pigmies from the other side of the Niger think. If you are not from the west I really don't give a fvck.

I'm starting to think these people are far behind on the evolutionary scale. The mind of the average Igbo is clannish like a chimp, primitive instinct supersedes any form of reason. This is why you will always be losers.

You call it no man's land, we laugh, cuz you know u Igbos have a very funny sense of humor.....If Nigeria splits, you all become foreigners, anyone that can't trace their lineage to any of the Yoruba sub group is at the mercy of whatever immigration policy is set. From Ilorin there were Igbo's everywhere, even the in countryside like Omu Aran and Igbo's.....the Day Nigeria breaks is when you'll realise of much of you actually reside far from home.

While we would all like to believe Islam to be an easy going religion, the reality is, it is not. The argument for the Religion is Incoherent, they believe God sent them the Quran through Muhammad, when you ask how they know for sure it is true, they go it says so in the Quran....to them the Quran is a self validating book that asks them to follow the Torah and the injil (New Testament) but the Hadith's claims they're corrupt....I mean how do you reason with that line of thought.....despite the numerous matching manuscripts of the bible that dates back to when they were first written.

truefact:
You are making a mistake. ..it is over to yoruba girls. ...igbos are naturally fair

You Igbos keep saying this, but I keep seeing black I mean darkskin Igbo's girls everywhere...only once in a while I come across Caramel skin (what Nigerians call lightskin often times) and even more rarely lightskin like say Nadia Buhari's skin color.

HungerBAD:
Can she afford the shoe? Yes.

Did she buy this one in the Picture? No.

So she told her friend, take me a pic while I try the shoe.

So, she should have shown us the pants, brassiere and pampers she bought for her monthly flow too, so we can keep up with all the intimate details of her life.

Silly woman.

You are busy flashing a shoe, the serious ones are home, making their homes work.

No wonder on your last shoe flashing trip, you came back to meet a pregnant woman for your husband.

Nigga ur a sick fvck, damn all that bull over a pic. Make what home? The home the fvcking idiot recked?
so many sickos in Nigeria....the climate is really bad for the brain. Smh for the brain dead individual that liked ur comment.

Atmmachine:
They're rich.
They worked & grinded for their money.
This is the time to enjoy the fruit of their labor.

And houses are very costly in Atlanta.
If you hate on them, may you die in poverty. #Amen

nigga calm down, house ain't that costly in Atlanta, everyone knows that, houses down south are cheap as hell, you bugging right now.

Their heads need to be placed on a stake, while each one of them is made to look at each others execution, bunch of sissies......the Nigerian Military as far back, has never stood for anything good. It's an incompetent organization that has failed to instill the ethic into its officials.

In this case "Bodmas" which we call "Pemdas" is not applicable in this problem. In this case you always solve from going from left to right. Which gives you 18.

Abagworo:
Sincerely if you change the roofs to stonecoated and repaint the houses, its no different from highbrow areas of our major cities. I think these places must have looked very beautiful when they were newly developed.

You're right about when those places were first developed.....the Brazilian/portugese architecture that's so much superior than the contemporary Nigerian design in aesthetics have been lost. The landscape of Ibadan reminds of places like San Fransisco, Monaco with hills running for running for miles and into another.....Ibadan has a great potential.

Lies!! This are all bits and pieces of pictures you can find online. I have seen those pictures before and that's one of the ways I know. Those architectures and interior design are full on American.

astrodome:
Sure, but if a large part (after Biafra has left) of Nigeria's population remains unproductive with a high birth rate how does that help? Remember also that Biafra leaving will affect the economy as well (import duties, foreign remittances, revenue from nollywood, etc)

Everything will be fine or maybe not, the break would have at least solve Nigeria's biggest problem, the rest will be figured out a step at a time.
it just like a break up, it is first uncomfortable and new, but eventually the parties involve grow out of it and learn to leave without each other.

demolish the existing one, it'll only accelerate the break up we've all been anticipating. the only thing is how do we get Igbos in the SW back to Biafra hmmm.....by canoes perhaps.

astrodome:
But Biafra leaving will not make a serious dent on the population of the North, where the main overpopulation problem is stemming from.

but subtraction of Biafran population, will greatly reduce the overall population, who's to say Nigeria will continue to exist in the nearest future.

it's high time we start exporting some of the populace to colonize other parts of the world
Besides Biafrans are leaving soon. it is a welcome development

a lot of bullshit, they are black as much as they are the other race they're mixed with, in the U.S the history behind why they are classified black goes back to the days of slavery, "the one drop rule" once you have an African blood then you're automatically black. But nowadays there are whites in the U.S with African ancestors when you trace their family root back, they are considered white now because you can't tell. Same with mixed blacks folks, physically their have African features dominates the other half for the most part.

Africans are dark, but not black in color, we range in color because we don't all carry the same genetic info, some African are light while some are darker due to many factors such as Climate and genes traits and we don't all have rough hair, that just plain idiotic. Hair texture differs across the continent.

Age is just number and Jail is just a room, at least here in the Developed world, not too sure about Nigeria, Yarima is an example of a serial pedophile