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Health › Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Thanks18(m): 2:00pm On May 22, 2018

Privatization of the entire sector and health administrators and managers of the sector from primary to tertiary level including Health minister open to competent hands drawn from any profession in the health sector. Let there be parity and equity of wages among all healthcare givers.

Health › Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 12:29pm On May 22, 2018

PLEASE TAKE A LOOK TO OLD COMESS AND OLD CONHESS:
COMESS 3 (which is the starting point for doctors) #260,865.58
CONHESS 7 (which is the starting point for some health workers like accountant etc) #118,765.
(difference of #142,100.00) 120% difference.
CONHESS 9 (which is another starting point for health workers eg pharmacist etc) #161,670.33.
(difference 99,195.25) 61% difference.
NOW LETS STILL COMPARE THE SALARY OF A NEWLY EMPLOYED DOCTOR ABOVE WITH A HEALTH WORKERS THAT HAVE SPENT 6 TO 9 YEARS IN SERVICE WHICH IS CONHESS 11.
CONHESS 11:#223,345.58 (difference of #37,520.00) 17% difference.
ABOVE IS FOR OLD CONMESS AND OLD CONHESS....
TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEW CONMESS AND PROPOSED CONHESS BY JOHESU, PLS SIR I WILL STILL WANT YOU TO COMPARE THIS NEW CONMESS WITH THE OLD CONHESS THAT JOHESU IS PRESENTLY RECEIVING NOW....
NEW CONMESS 3 :# 312,944.83.
PROPOSED CONHESS 7: #165,541.08
(difference of #147,403.75)
89%difference.
PROPOSED CONHESS 9: #190,227.25 (difference of #122,717.58)
65% difference.
PROPOSED CONHESS 11:
#255,184.83.
(difference of #57,760.00)
23% difference.
I WANT TO ALSO WRITE THAT OF THE ZENITH OF BOTH PROFESSION :
OLD CONMESS 7: #704,209.08
OLD CONHESS 15: #476,855.00
(DIFFERENCE #227,354.08)
48% DIFFERENCE.
NEW CONMESS 7:
#999,698.50
PROPOSED CONHESS 15:
#697,024,42.
(difference of #302,674.08)
43% Difference
now did NMA see the parity they have been singing with huh

I TOOK OUT MY PRECIOUS TIME TO HIGHLIGHT THIS FIGURES OUT because WHEN I AM TALKING I LIKE WORKING WITH FACT because THE TRUTH CAN'T BE HIDDEN.
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Health › Re: JOHESU Statement On Health Minister Stand On Health Sectors Salary Structure by Thanks18(op): 12:28pm On May 22, 2018

I TOOK OUT MY PRECIOUS TIME TO HIGHLIGHT THIS FIGURES OUT because WHEN I AM TALKING I LIKE WORKING WITH FACT because THE TRUTH CAN'T BE HIDDEN.
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Health › Re: Pay Parity Among Healthcare Professionals: The UK Vs. Nigeria Example by Thanks18(op): 12:27pm On May 22, 2018

I TOOK OUT MY PRECIOUS TIME TO HIGHLIGHT THIS FIGURES OUT because WHEN I AM TALKING I LIKE WORKING WITH FACT because THE TRUTH CAN'T BE HIDDEN.
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Health › Re: JOHESU Statement On Health Minister Stand On Health Sectors Salary Structure by Thanks18(op): 10:28am On May 22, 2018

desoul2004:
Which kind of country is this?

This country thrives in broad day light injustice. There's no fairness in our system at all.

Health › JOHESU Statement On Health Minister Stand On Health Sectors Salary Structure by Thanks18(op): 10:20pm On May 21, 2018

Joint Health Sector Unions(JOHESU), Statement on Honourable Ministers of Health(Prof. Isaac Adewole) Stand on Health Sectors Salary Structures

On 21/May/2018 / In Medical News
FALSEHOOD ON THE SALARY STRUCTURES IN THE HEALTH SECTOR; A DIVERSIONARY TACTIC AND TRIVIALISATION OF THE CRY FOR JUSTICE BY PROF. ISAAC ADEWOLE HONOURABLE MINISTER Of HEALTH
It is said by one of the holy books that" the truth shall set you free" and it is also common knowledge that falsehood and lies are forever disappearing things, because whenever the truth appears, falsehood and lies disappear. The falsehood and lies being fed the public by the Honourable Minister is not only condemnable but also disappointing and shocking.
The falsehood and lies being paraded about by the Honourable Minister of Health is that other Health Workers under the Umbrella of the Joint Health Sector Unions are asking for the same salary with his colleagues 'the Doctors'. While on a Channels Television program: The Honourable Minister said "the only problem with the ongoing strike by the JOHESU is that the group is asking for the same salary with Doctors" in fact this is a white lie and also an instrument of diversionary tactic. It is unfortunate and sad that the Honourable Minister has decided to abandon the subject matter in contention which is better working condition in the Health Sector and the general improvement of facilities, manpower and services in the sector, rather than face these challenges in the health sector, the Honourable Minister is busying himself as the spokesman for the Nigerian Medical Association.
We want to inform the general public that the Honourable Minister of Health should be "for nobody but for everybody" in the Health Sector, but it is evidently clear that Professor Isaac Adewole is the Minister for Doctors and not for all health workers.
The present crisis in the health sector is as a result of the trivialisation of the cry for justice. The general public must know that at no point in time did JOHESU demand for the same salary scale with Doctors. But the failure of the meetings held on (1). Wednesday, 25th April, 2018, (2). Monday, 30th April, 2018, (3). Thursday, 3' May, 2018, (4). Wednesday, 9' May, 2018, (5). Tuesday, 15' May, 2018, (6). Wednesday, 16th May, 2018, left the health workers with no choice but to take the last but most painful option of continuing the ongoing strike which was preventable, but for self-centred reasons. It is not only important but central to let the general public and stakeholders in the health sector know that a fresh doctor in a government employment earns N312,944.83 per month, that is CONMESS 3 (CONHESS 11). Whereas other health workers, would have to soil and toil for three to nine years before getting to CONHESS 11 which has a take home pay of 8255,184.83 with a differential of N57,760.00 which represents 23% difference (if adjusted from the present earning of 223,345.58). So where lies the truth behind the propaganda that Joint Health Sector Unions (JOHESU) is demanding the same salary structure with doctors. (Please see attached earnings in the health sector).
It is obvious that in Nine years that it takes a health worker to climb to CONHESS 11 where he earns N255,184.83, the doctor has pocketed 86,238,080, if stagnated for the period which is impossible. We want the Honourable Minister of Health to tell the world how on earth could a health worker who enters the public service in Nigeria on CONHESS 9 which is the same as GL 10 and earns N161,670.00 with a proposal to increase to N190,000.00 be the same as a fresh doctor who earns 8312,944.83 at the entry point. This is nothing but a master and servant relationship, in fact worse still, graduate Nurses who handle the bulk of patient care in the hospitals are on GL8, which is CONHESS 7 with a meagre monthly take home of between N97,000 and N118,000 which is almost half of the take home for doctors. In this case who is deceiving who?
The truth is that Doctors are usually the first to talk about international best practices; for the information of the Honourable Minister of Health and his co-doctors it is important to state a case study in Britain our colonial masters. In the wages of health professionals in UK Public Service, a perfect example is the fact that a doctor in the U.K at entry point earns £26,000.00, per annum while a radiographer earners, £23,000.00 per annum. This is what relativity in the salary structure in he Nigeria should look like. JOHESU is therefore appealing to the Federal Government of President Muhammadu Buhari, GCFR to restructure the Federal Ministry of Health and the entire health sector A position where the Honourable Minister of Health is a Doctor, the Minister of State for Health is a Doctor, the Director Hospital Services is a Doctor, it and Several other departmental heads in the Federal Ministry of Health s are doctors does not give a clear vision and proper direction for our health system.
Our constant position of allowing professional Health Administrators run our health system is the only solution to the quagmire facing our nation today. We have continued-to do the same thing over the years by allowing doctor to administratively run our health system, and we have continued to have the same result of poor health indices. It is time to make the required change, that change should be now.
Long Live the Federal Republic of Nigeria!
Long Live President Muhamniadu Buhari, GCFR!!
Long Live Joint Health Sector Unions!!

Source: https://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2018/05/joint-health-sector-unions-johesu-statement-on-honourable-ministers-of-health-prof-isaac-adewole-stand-on-health-sectors-salary-structures

Health › Pay Parity Among Healthcare Professionals: The UK Vs. Nigeria Example by Thanks18(op): 12:18pm On May 21, 2018

>> Pay Parity, Equity and Equality Among Healthcare Professionals: The UK vs. Nigeria Example By Daniel Okpla Onaji
Pay Parity, Equity and Equality Among Healthcare Professionals: The UK vs. Nigeria Example By Daniel Okpla Onaji
0 On 21/May/2018 / In Articles
Twines of conscience twines me like a meandering snake when I ruminate on the senseless debacle that has engulfed the Nigerian health sector for years now. Historically, the Nigerian medical doctors use the Nigerian Medical association (NMA) or the National Association of Resident Doctors (NARD) and other affiliates to persuade the government to either increase their wages or prevent the government from honouring agreement with other healthcare workers. Hardly has the NMA gone on strike to press for improved infrastructure or the alarming state of decay in the health sector.
To define the terms above;
- Pay Parity can be defined as the state or condition of receiving equal income, allowances and/attaining equal socio-economic status.
- Equity is defined as the quality or state of being fair and impartial to all concerned.
- Equality is defined as the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities without discriminating against others.
Everyone has the right to chose the profession they deem best for themselves. It is ones' choice to be a medical doctor, and another to be a nurse, radiographer, laboratory scientist or physiotherapist, all working to deliver best of care to the patient.
In the UK, the health sector is seen as a multi-disciplinary sector where team work is enshrined in healthcare delivery for the overall benefit of the patient. In Nigeria, the salary of most other health professional is less than 40% that of the doctors at entry point and most will need to work for about 15 years to get to the grade level of a newly qualified medical doctor. To earn the same as a newly qualified medical doctor, most healthcare workers will have to work for about 15 years, assuming they receive specialist training and are promptly promoted.
Recently, other healthcare professionals in (the NHS) England got an increment based on negotiations with all their affiliate bodies without a query from the British Medical Association(BMA). When it favours the NMA, they refer to international best practices. A quick comparism of pay parity among doctors and radiographers in the UK visa-vis Nigeria will help, as follows:
In the UK (2018), basic salary for junior doctors/foundation year 1 (FY1) starts at about £26,614 rising to £76,761 (specialist medical consultant) .It takes about 19 years to progress from FY1 to specialist consultant in the UK.
Basic pay for a newly qualified radiographer / (band 5) is £23,023 rising to £62,001 (Band cool

specialist or consultant radiographer. As a radiographer, it takes about 15 years to progress from band 5 to band 8.
In the Nigeria (2018), basic salary for junior doctors (CONMESS1/GL12) starts at about N240,000 rising to about N850,000 (COMESS 9/GL 16 (specialist medical consultant). It takes about 10 years to progress from house officer to specialist consultant in Nigeria if you pass your examinations. Basic pay for newly qualified radiographer / (CONHESS 9/GL10) is N140,000 rising to about N500,000 (CONHESS 15) deputy director, radiography. As a radiographer, it takes about 23 years to progress from senior radiographer to deputy director if you achieve professional skills and duly promoted.
The above comparism, although confirms pay parity, but clearly contrast the huge pay gap between a newly qualified medical doctor and a newly qualified radiographer in Nigeria visa-vis their UK counterpart.. Yes, the NMA insists parity is "sarcrosant" but denies that parity has been implemented ab initio entry point for the doctors. In 2009, the federal government approved CONMESS for medical doctors and CONHESS for other professionals and workers in the sector. At the entry point, the pay disparity between the two salary structure fall short of all know international best practices for equity.
This injustice was further entrenched in 2014, against the tenets of the 2009 agreement, the federal government approved an upward adjustment of CONMESS for the doctors without an equivalent upward adjustment of CONHESS for other healthcare workers.
In the UK, pay parity is implemented only at entry point and any further pay negotiation between the NHS and any trade union is implemented without the fury of BMA. Most healthcare professionals or groups can earn as much as they can clock in their hours based on service needs and skills/expertise. So you find a radiographer clock so many hours and may earn more than a specialist registrar whose services are not needed as that of the radiographer. Will Nigerian doctors allow this to happen here?.
NMA is opposed to other healthcare professionals becoming consultants working in the hospital. In the UK, a radiographer can rise to become a specialist /advanced practitioner radiographer (reporting plain x-ray, cathlab, cardiac CT, cardiac MRI, etc) or consultant radiographer ( mammographer, cathlab, ultrasound, etc).
In the UK, a lot of Nigerian radiographers, nurses and midwives carry out ultrasound services but Nigerian doctors do not allow Nigerians radiographers/sonographers including those returning from the UK to practice especially in the teaching hospitals where the doctors hold court.
In the UK, all the managers/heads of departments/units of NHS radiology are radiographers, working side by side doctors/radiologists who are appointed as clinical leads. The same goes for biomedical, physiotherapy, etc including the private hospitals (BUPA, SPIRE, BMI) where even non-medical mangers hold sway.
The NMA is opposed to the appointment of other health care professional as minister of health, minister of state for health, chief medical directors, chairman medical advisory committee, heads of departments and units including department such as radiography, pathology, medical laboratory etc. In the UK ( as well as most parts of europe) , the secretary of health and chief executives of most NHS are non-doctors. Jeremy Hunt is the current secretary of state for health and social care in the UK and holds a degree in philosophy. I recall the uproar when prince Julius Adelusi ( a pharmacist) was appointed minister of health. The NMA fought him to a stand-still because he was "not medically" qualified to be appointed minister of health in Nigeria.
The birth of JOHESU is the greatest hope of liberation of the health sector from the mundane perception that the ministry of health belongs to doctors and doctors alone. JOHESU stands for Justice (not Injustice), Order (not anarchy), Humility (not arrogance), Equity (not inequality), Service (not slavery) and Unity (not disharmony). The NMA needs to imbibe these values in order to move the health sector forward.
The way forward is for Nigerian doctors to put their patients first, understand that the health sector is multi-disciplinary and team work is the only way forward for service delivery in the interest of the patient . At the moment, they pay lip service to team work.
The times have moved on from when every other health worker is seen as part of the doctor's tool. The days are gone when the doctors built schools of nursing, medical laboratory and radiography awarding diplomas while doctors alone got MBBS degree from the universities. Knowledge and technological advances now demystify most skills including healthcare. Knowledge boundaries are getting thinner. Patients now demands more choices, knowledge and rights about their treatment never like before. Artificial Intelligence, telemedicine, virtual reality learning are tools knocking on everyone's door and demands a more open approach to patient treatment.
JOHESU and other healthcare workers must demonstrate that patient is the king and the reason why everyone is in the business of healthcare. The place of the doctor as a clinical lead must be sacrosanct, as is the practice globally.
Also, Doctors do not hold exclusive knowledge in human resource management and other professionals with pre-requisite knowledge and skills must be allowed to manage our health systems. Any agitation for improved condition of service of healthcare workers must have patient interest at the centre.
#thereality

Source: https://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2018/05/pay-parity-equity-and-equality-among-healthcare-professionals-the-uk-vs-nigeria-example-by-daniel-okpla-onaji

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Politics › Re: Yusuf Buhari's Rehabilitation: Nigeria Society Of Physiotherapy Reacts by Thanks18(op): 10:58am On May 21, 2018

MistadeRegal:
Yea but he can vacate his office for his people to chase mouse around. They're only good at that.
Anyway, what do you expect from a man who downgraded his own wife at a foreign public event?

Yes, let him return to daura by 2019

Politics › Re: Yusuf Buhari's Rehabilitation: Nigeria Society Of Physiotherapy Reacts by Thanks18(op): 10:51am On May 21, 2018

mansamusa08:
Trained physiotherapists indeed!
Physical therapists who can not rehabilitate common stroke patients those ones are well trained?

As you sure you have ever encountered a qualified and licenced physiotherapist/physical therapist and not quackeries, Traditional bone setters & herbalist who parade as professionals and even usurp the role of orthopedic surgeon and physiotherapist. Even at that, Stroke is a neurological condition thus a long term management and its prognosis is dependent on extent of CVA.

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Politics › Re: Yusuf Buhari's Rehabilitation: Nigeria Society Of Physiotherapy Reacts by Thanks18(op): 10:44am On May 21, 2018

Johnrake69:
First class in ass licking. Men who do not stand for anything. How can a bloody professor in charge of of health system make sure an embarrassing statement in a bid to justify the medical tourism embarked upon by the presidency

Indeed our university curriculum is in a mess and should be totally overhauled. Nigeria is still in darkness

Politics › Re: Yusuf Buhari's Rehabilitation: Nigeria Society Of Physiotherapy Reacts by Thanks18(op): 10:39am On May 21, 2018

MistadeRegal:

How do you expect him to hand his son over to you when he considers you all as lazy, uneducated and fantastically corrupt?
Answer me NSP....

The same way, he detested the entire hospitals and centres in Nigeria since 2015 and cannot entrust his delicate health to Nigerian physicians even for a mere ear disease. Thus, he regards all health professionals in Nigeria as inferior when compared to his "superior" British medical personnel.

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Politics › Re: Yusuf Buhari's Rehabilitation: Nigeria Society Of Physiotherapy Reacts by Thanks18(op): 12:20am On May 21, 2018

Greyworld:
Its indeed a precarious situation.

Yes you are right

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Politics › Re: Yusuf Buhari's Rehabilitation: Nigeria Society Of Physiotherapy Reacts by Thanks18(op): 10:51pm On May 20, 2018

Greyworld:
There are qualified personnel for "commoners" not worthy to touch the King's son.

In the same vein, there's no qualified doctors in Nigeria to treat the king who also personally and unofficially made London to be Nigeria capital due to medical tourism. Nigerian physicians are qualified for commoners but not worthy to touch the KING himself

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Politics › Re: Yusuf Buhari's Rehabilitation: Nigeria Society Of Physiotherapy Reacts by Thanks18(op): 10:51pm On May 20, 2018

[quote author=Greyworld post=67733517]There are qualified personnel for "commoners" not worthy to touch the King's son. [/quote

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Health › Re: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by Thanks18(m): 10:42pm On May 20, 2018

frank41:
Mtchew tot you have beta thing to say oga...From all indications, u studied physiotherapy.....you beta go and pick jamb form nxt year and apply for medicine rather than waiting for tanker chidiebere....see you see professional exams.....what has keke gat to do with seat belt....physiotherapists indeed.....what is your work as a physiotherapist...physiotherapy is inconsequential bro...the dumping site where med.students that failed out from med. are accommodated and celebrated.Hide you face oooo...Ask polytechnics that went on strike based on having Btech equivalent as certificate,how they ended.If the Fed.does that...we doctors will go on strike too...monkey dey work baboo dey chop!

Laughable
You are daft and responding to you again is a waste of resources. The garbage and riddle you vomited out here shows that you are a liability bent on wasting the resources and energy of your kith and kin in training you in school. So they better give you a corner of your village so that you can practice your herbalism and quackery. I am an enthusiastic Physiotherapist with a singular aim to rub ideas with intelligent fellows in health team and not a complete illiterate like you.

Politics › Yusuf Buhari's Rehabilitation: Nigeria Society Of Physiotherapy Reacts by Thanks18(op): 9:34pm On May 20, 2018

Buhari’s son’s post-operative: ‘Nigeria has over 750 trained specialists to handle such'

Buhari’s son’s post-operative: ‘Nigeria has over 750 trained specialists to handle such'

Nigeria Society of Physiotherapy (NSP) says it has over 250 trained specialist Physiotherapists in Neurophysiotherapy and over 500 specialist trained Orthopaedic Physiotherapists who would have conveniently carried out President Buhari's son's post-operative rehabilitation if they had been invited.
NSP was reacting to a statement credited to the Minister of Health.

"Our attention has been drawn to some misconceptions which have arisen from a recent interview granted by the Hounorable Minister of Health on channels television program hard copy. The minister claimed that the president's son did not go abroad for treatment but for rehabilitation thereby suggesting that rehabilitation was not a form or part of treatment, " NSP said in a statement signed by its National PRO Peggy-joe Odili-Olaseinde.

It asserted:" We consider the Minister's response to the question by the anchor of the programme that Mr President's son had to go for rehabilitation abroad, when he was treated by Nigerian doctors as a tacit validation of allusions that other health professionals do not have the competence required to deliver quality healthcare- a position the NSP has always found ridiculous."

According to NSP, they had been inundated with calls inquiring whether there are no qualified Physiotherapists in Nigeria who could have undertaken the Rehabilitation aspect of the management of the President's son after he was treated by Medical Doctors.

It pointed out that physiotherapists are skilled to provide care in several areas, stressing, "NSP frowns at any deliberate attempt to undermine the contributions of the Physiotherapy profession to a holistic approach to management of health conditions especially orthopaedic and neurological conditions."

According to NSP, "an average physiotherapist's work is most physically demanding, with heavy caseloads (especially as most Nigerian Health Institutions have shortfall of physiotherapists)."

"We encourage the Ministry of Health to provide logistic support for the employment of physiotherapists and give due recognition to the training of specialists in Physiotherapy across board, “it stated.

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/buhari-s-son-s-post-operative-nigeria-has-over-750-trained-specialists-to-handle-such-251497.html

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Health › Re: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by Thanks18(m): 9:25pm On May 20, 2018

frank41:
Is not legitimate....Don't tell me that as a medical lab. Scientist or a physiotherapist....that you passed thru all the rigors that a medical doctor went thru? How many MBBS exams did you write and how many resit did you had.your works are always on shifts....while doctors are always on calls....what stoped those agitating from studying medicine? Lol

Are you okay at all? Did you actually read my post before mentioning me? Who told that other healthcare professions including physiotherapist did not write professional exam at every stage? how should one year extra in school make physician to be alpha and omega in health sector? if you don't have any valid and objective points to marshal out instead of these petty sentiments and trash, why not keep mute and learn by googling how most developed health system in the world runs with their physicians working as team member with other health care givers in the sector. Do it fast and thank me later

Health › Re: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by Thanks18(m): 9:22pm On May 20, 2018

frank41:
Is not legitimate....Don't tell me that as a medical lab. Scientist or a physiotherapist....that you passed thru all the rigors that a medical doctor went thru? How many MBBS exams did you write and how many resit did you had.your works are always on shifts....while doctors are always on calls....what stopped those agitating from studying medicine? Lol

Health › Re: No Accident Involving UBTH JOHESU Members. by Thanks18(op): 6:34pm On May 20, 2018

Dear Esteemed JOHESU members, greetings to you ALL.
THE STRIKE IS ONGOING.
Why do they need JOHESU members to return to work by force.
Come to think of it, why is the ministry riding on another horse (NGO) to issues directive to MD's and CMD 'S?
I believed some of the CMD' S are not fools, they have their own hospital barrister who could advise them accordingly because the Minister is desperate right now and he is making mockery of himself at every move he is making contrary to resolving the issues at hand.
The MDs and CMDs cannot deny the FACT that paying JOHESU SABOUTEOUS is not the solution to the issues at hand.
The Minister of Health and the ministry should be bold enough to take JOHESU to court.
Why are they avoiding the same court they flagrantly ignored and disobeyed Nine (9) good times.
Is it not embarrassing, shameful, for the ministry to jump on the line of NGO court arrangement they organized. The plans with NGO as fore runner is not working.
Let THE PRESIDENCY, THE SENATE, OR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE take JOHESU to court, but to INTERNATIONAL COURT WHERE NO PARTY COULD DISOBEY and all INTERNATIONAL BEST PRACTICES adhere to.
OPENING OF REGISTER IS NOT NEW, THE SAME REGISTER MAY BE VERY USEFUL TO THE UNION TOMORROW.
BE STRONG, FIRM AND RESOLUTE, WHAT EVER THAT HAS A BEGINNING MUST HAVE AN END.
DON'T GIVE UP
VICTORY IS CERTAIN.
Com Fred: No body should be afraid,it was JOHESU leadership that declared the strike ,they are d ones empowered to relax or call members back to work. No one shd write any register for now. Afterall govt has named the JOHESU leaders they are interested in.
Commit our actions n further actions for victory this holy month of Ramadan as we pray n take action.
From NUAHP President

Health › Re: No Accident Involving UBTH JOHESU Members. by Thanks18(op): 4:20pm On May 20, 2018

neonly:
APC nd lies

You are daft. what concerns APC with this post. Or are you still in touch with reality?

Health › No Accident Involving UBTH JOHESU Members. by Thanks18(op): 3:51pm On May 20, 2018

*VERY IMPORTANT*
# Fowardedasrecieved .
# COPIED #
Our attention has been drawn to news making the round that UBTH JOHESU EXCO members were involved in a road traffic accident today 19.05.2018 on their way to Auchi in Edo state.
While there was indeed a road traffic accident:
** the victims are neither UBTH JOHESU EXCO
NOR MEMBERS**
We understand the desperation of the sponsors of this false news to always seek ways to score cheap points but we are saddened by the fact that they could descend so low as seeing the pain and anguish of the accident victims as something to be celebrated to the extent of uploading the pictures of this NIGERIANS IN PAIN to the whole world.
I want to state here again that this news is not correct as no UBTH JOHESU MEMBERS were involved in any kind of accident today and we shall by the GRACE OF GOD NOT BE INVOLVED IN ANY.
We want to advise ARD/NMA members to always check their facts and avoid rushing into conclusions so as not to continue spreading falsehoods to the general public.
They could have asked questions and get correct answers before painting the social media red with this lies.
I advice the NMA to avoid wishing JOHESU MEMBERS evil as evidenced by the way they celebrated this falsehood on the social media.
WE WISH THE VICTIMS OF THIS R.T.A A VERY QUICK RECOVERY.
WE ALSO APPEAL TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO PREVAIL ON THE MINISTERS OF HEALTH AND LABOUR TO QUICKLY PUT AN END TO THIS STRIKE BY DOING THE NEEDFUL.
GOD WILL CONTINUE TO PROTECT JOHESU MEMBERS.
OUR DEMANDS ARE LEGITIMATE.
GOD BLESS JOHESU.
OSIGBEME AUGUSTINE
Chairman, NANNM UBTH

Health › Re: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by Thanks18(m): 3:46pm On May 20, 2018

frank41:
You can say that again bro....their strike has no basis...shame on them...those doctors they are striving with ended up treating them.

Health › Re: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by Thanks18(m): 3:44pm On May 20, 2018

CeoNewshelm:
At least 19 members of the Joint Health Sector Union (JOHESU) sustained injuries in an accident along the Benin-Auchi Road on Saturday.

The workers are said to be staff of the University of Benin Teaching Hospital (UBTH) chapter of the union.

According to Channels, 40 of the health workers were on their way to a function in Auchi when the accident occurred.

The injured victims were subsequently rushed to the Otibho Okhai Hospital in Irrua, Edo state, where they were being treated by doctors and consultants on duty.

Esteem Tagar, president of the association of resident doctors at Irrua Specialist Teaching Hospital, who confirmed the incident, said no life was lost in the accident. The union has been on strike since April 17.

Part of the health workers’ demands include upward review of their salaries to be at same level with the doctors, a request both the federal government and the doctors kicked against.

Others are improved facilities, employment of additional health professionals, implementation of court judgments, upward review of retirement age from 60 to 65 years, and harmonisation of salaries of all healthcare workers in the country.

The National Industrial Court in Abuja, on Thursday, ordered the health workers to resume work within 24 hours but JOHESU asked its members to continue with the strike.

The union has “relaxed” its strike in Lagos, Kano, Yobe and Niger states, but called on President Muhammadu Buhari to sack Isaac Adewole, minister of health, for allegedly taking sides with doctors in the ongoing strike.

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Health › Re: Doctors At ISTH Irrua Respond To Mass Casualty Involving UBTH JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 7:14am On May 20, 2018

Health › Re: Federal Health Workers Under The Umbrella Of JOHESU Embark On Indefinite Trike by Thanks18(m): 7:10am On May 20, 2018

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Health › Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 7:08am On May 20, 2018

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Health › Uk Health Council by Thanks18(op): 12:46pm On May 19, 2018

*UK HEALTH COUNCIL*
In united kingdom where our president and other senators often seek medical care, leaving our jeopardized health system being managed by minister of doctors over the years without meaningful development, but rather what we are experiencing are anarchy, morbid egocentric mentality, industrial disharmony, superiority complexes, and strong desire to head all departments. They have termed other health care professionals such as Physiotherapists, Nurses, Medical Laboratory Scientists, Pharmacists, Optometrists, Radiographers, Dieticians and Occupational therapists as Non medical Health workers and they are the only medical health workers in Nigeria. With this showmanship of ignorance and acute behaviour of catatonic schizophrenia found among medical doctors in Nigeria. We wish to explain how the UK HEALTH COUNCIL IS HEADED.
*UK Minister of State For Health- Stephen Barclay* ; - He studied Law at the College of Law, Chester.
*UK Secretary of state for Health and Social care- Jeremy Hunt MP* ;- He studied philosophy, politics and economics at Magdelen College, Oxford.
*UK Minister of State for Care- Caroline Dinenage* ;- She studied Politics and English at Swansea University
*UK Secretary of State for Mental Health and Inequalities- Jackie Dougle* ;- She studied economics at University College, Durham
*UK Secretary of State for Public Health and Primary care- Steve Brina MP* - He studied History from Liverpool Hope University
Is it not laughable that NMA is citing International best practices, I wonder where their own international best practices came from.
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Health › Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 12:45pm On May 19, 2018

Health › Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 10:00am On May 19, 2018

optm:
in our various trainings, we hv areas dt are given more attention because it is more relevant to our primary job spec. there re areas of pharmacology a pharmacist ll do better dan u as well as areas u wld do better due to d attention given in training based on its relevance to carrying out primary duties. a newly grad pharmacist is nt all grounded in evry areas that's why there re consultancy areas to mk dem authority in their chosen area of interest. i think a clinical pharmacologist shld be able to giv answers to ur questions. we all had diff trainings to enable us carry out our specific duties. it's childish trying to mk comparison in order to find out who is better. let's learn to hv respect fr one anoda.

Bros, you should have ignored him for silence is the best answer to a fool. I just observed he is still a student. Reality has not dawn on him. Let him graduate and come and meet us in the hospital. He will know where he belong.

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Health › Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 7:39am On May 19, 2018

Jack of all trades. master of none. We are in the modern era for goodness sake. From 19th century till date, after the French revolution and industrial revolution in the west, there became an emphasis on specialization of skills and knowledge for more productivity and usefulness. One day, NMA members will claim to know jurisprudence better than lawyers since they did a bit in school. They may also claim to know A level biology, chemistry and physics better than biologist, chemist and physicist respectively. Sometimes, I wonder why there's rampant increase of impunity in all our sectors and national existence as some derail folks foster a supremacy agenda on others. Fulani herdsmen are fighting a supremacy war on the whole 250 tribes in Nigeria; NMA is fighting a supremacy agenda in our backward health sector; At times, some zealous lawyer also even claimed to be the only learned profession in the country. I am a physiotherapist and there's no other profession in Nigeria can brag that he knows my discipline better. Everybody should know their limit. Physician does not know pharmacology more than pharmacist. They know just a bit of it in order to practice Anyone claiming such should submitted self for examination.

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Health › Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 3:38pm On May 18, 2018

TempoJames:
I am sure you don't understand why a medical doctor has no license to start a pharmaceutical company and why a pharmacist can't start a hospital.
Your question of why a medical doctor is in better position to head others will only be answered if u do an indept study of course contents of each field. Only then would you know a medical doctor has superior knowledge in all allied-fields as regard patient management. The hospital setting is not concerned about drug production but its use of which doctors have superior knowledge.
The same pharmacology a pharmacist studies for 3yrs(3l to 5l) is what a med doc studied in a year.
In UNN I studied pharmacology for 6months indepth no topic left out with true/false and negative marking and close marking applied with tendency to repeat or fail out if you fail. I exhuasted Tripathi text of pharmacology. Some times Lecturers finished by 9pm and you come back so exhuasted and tired and still have to read against the next day or accumulate work to your detriment.
Medical doctors are trained to carry knowledge in bulk. The same course others spread out and write semester by semester for 3 years is what a med doc exhausts under stress within a year or less and write exams across(not in parts). Those in medlab,medrehab,medradio, nursing will attest to the fact that their semester exams were used as continous assessment for medsurg students. They never wrote Mb. Last time I went to UNTH as visiting pathologist, the above academic regulations still holds true. Go and confirm and check the pass rate of their last 2nd mb and proof me wrong. Last year I heard only 12 out of 60 passed in dentistry others either failed out or repeated. currently they are 150(against 15 qouta) dentistry students and 325 (against 150 quota)medsurg students in YR1 my 2 kid bros are in pharmacy 500L and medsurg 400L UNN. I have first hand info from my colleagues over there too.
I remember in 2nd mb only 141(+resits) out of 335(including dentistry) passed . Abt 102 repeated 3rd yr and 98 failed out. I remember what happened that night the result was pasted around 9pm after 11hr long meeting by faculty boards. Many cried that day. A colleague that failed out even wanted to commit suicide.Tell which other health fields are subject to such truama. Yet you want to be doctors through the backyard without being test/baptized by the fire and ego of MBBS
Idiots!

Pls read this so that you will make objective point. I also have my own tale of the harsh undergraduate era. So don't hype it as if yours is from another planet.

NMA said the reason for coveting these offices is because other health workers are not "medically qualified" even though they all finished from the same college of medicine; took same or similar causes together or as separate departments.
Let's look at the so called international best practices. Lets look at the ministers of health of following countries:
1. France minister of health
Morisol Touraine.
She is not a degree holder. Studied At Ecole Normale Supereure and specialized in Economics and social issues.
2. Germany minister of health
Jens Spahn.
Studied Political science and Law at University of Hagen.
3. Saudi Arabia minister of health.
Dr. Tawfiq Al Ravish.
Obtain bachelor degree in Financial management and Mathematics, then 2 masters in computer science and information science.
4. Israel minister of health.
Yaakov Litzman.
Studied Torah and his first job was principal of Yaakov Girls school and then join politics.
5. Spain minister of health, social, security and Equality.
Dolors Montserrat.
A Lawyer and politician. She specialized in Real Estate and Environmental Law.
6. India minister of health
Jagat Prakash Nadda.
He a graduate of Law at Himachal Prakash.
7. Canada minister of health
Genette Petitpas Taylor.
She has bachelor degree in Social work.
Non of the above ministers study medicine and they are health ministers of their countries. Yet Isaac Adewole and NMA are saying our ministry of health institutions most be headed by medical doctors, ie. the international best practice.
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Health › Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 1:50pm On May 18, 2018

TempoJames:
Yes I'm deaf, daft and illiterate but I will be the one to conduct your autopsy after you might have died from hunger.
Cause of death will be: Hunger secondary to Johesu strike and insurbodination.

Laughable
No valid point made

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