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Romance / Re: Why Should Girls Do This? by Thebadpolitican(m): 5:00pm On Mar 02
HellVictorinho6:



Na d sister send u abi

Jobless thing


You need deliverance
Programming / Re: In Need Of A Skilled Hacker by Thebadpolitican(m): 2:01pm On Mar 02
blackpanthar:
Pls specify if it is REMOTE.

I can only work anonymously.

Any physical or mobile trace is a deal breaker.

Yea remotely
Programming / Re: In Need Of A Skilled Hacker by Thebadpolitican(m): 2:01pm On Mar 02
blackpanthar:
Why not use Freelance sites.

How does that work
Programming / In Need Of A Skilled Hacker by Thebadpolitican(m): 12:25pm On Mar 02
In need of skilled hacker, that go into a site and help me hack LinkedIn acct in bulk he will be paid daily


If you know any please refer


If you also sell LinkedIn in bulk drop your contact
Romance / Re: Why Should Girls Do This? by Thebadpolitican(m): 12:20pm On Mar 02
HellVictorinho6:


which stupid validation did i beg ur sister for undecided

Bro you're bringing in sister which proves the point that you're an underage boy with rage
Romance / Re: Why Should Girls Do This? by Thebadpolitican(m): 10:23am On Mar 02
HellVictorinho6:
I walked into the shop then she started laughing

Telling her friend see ur husband in her native language/mothertongue


Then that one reacted mischieviously




But i think they must have seen themselves as perferct

Yeah, my hair may not be full everywhere, i may not have murny, trying 2 settle debts but



Can they improve any aspect of my life?

Is it just about what u want in a guy?

Or more like ur guy


I dont understand why i should hate myself becuz of anybody




Nonsense

How old are you....

Why the unnecessary validation, please delete the thread
Travel / Re: Beautiful Pictures From Uyo by Thebadpolitican(m): 10:19am On Mar 02
Oceanfl0w:
They have good road network. No cap

But until you go there

Wetin your eye see
Romance / Re: Please Help Me, How Do I Ignore This Girl by Thebadpolitican(m): 4:26pm On Mar 01
Fiscus105:




You are just wrote long epistle that potraited you, not only a weak but a foolish guy, well, nobody do competition with you on woman matter and no where you read that you must able to convince all females in the universe, but if you ask a lady out once and because she says no you chickened out, I repeat you are a woke* teenage boy.

Once is enough bro, if she really likes she will be the one to make the next move after you may have opted out, after all you have made your intentions known, once is enough
Romance / Re: Please Help Me, How Do I Ignore This Girl by Thebadpolitican(m): 4:22pm On Mar 01
Fiscus105:



Ur submission here clearly shows, u re not strong in convincing woman and if lady tells you, she is not interested, must you chicken out instanta*?

When I was younger, I asked a lady out then, in which she bluntly rejected and even cursed me, but I made sure I up' my game, she latter fell yakata years, even after married. she fell to the extent that she wanted to leave hubby.

So if you didnt opt your game she wouldn't have accepted you, meaning you're happy you scored with a gold digger, she gave you an expire pussy to top it all, she accepted you because she is already is married and she now an evening newspaper who multiple guys are now rejecting, if i was you i will feel irritated to even have done it, or to even to post it online, and even if she leaves her husband to be with you just know its for your money and nothing more your relationship with her is still bond to hit the rock with or without your money
Romance / Re: Please Help Me, How Do I Ignore This Girl by Thebadpolitican(m): 4:12pm On Mar 01
PureFace1:

Even if your game is top notch you are a fool if you think you can seduce every women.

Perhaps i'm more knowledgeable than you to know that it doesn't really worth the effort at the long run when there are plenty women that will dig you immediately out there even if she is playing hard to get i don't have time to waste on women that play stupid games and disrespect my time and I respect myself. i know that i am the prize here.

You are the one that's weak here for not realizing when a woman is just not interested in you and move on instead of wasting your time and resources away. Think about it would she reject Wizkid or Davido or even Portable ?

It is people like you that come online to wail when a woman take advantaged of you and used you. Why wouldn't they take advantage of men like you when you are just too desperate and don't understand what "No" is ? why wouldn't they disrespect you when you worship, give cheap attention, waste your time and chase them around like a dog on leash but in your delusional mind you think you are a gods player or seducer lol, you will hate yourself if you see what these women think of men like you, even if they later considered you it's because they ran out of options and they wouldn't really respect you or treat you well because they didn't really want you in the first place, you were the one chasing them around like a loyal dog.

Think about it would you really reject a beautiful woman that you are interested in and she asked you out?

Would any of these young women in Nigeria reject Wizkid, Davido or any celebrities that ask them for a date ? these women wouldn't even reject a guy with a good car.

Why wouldn't these women later act out and disrespect you when you just wouldn't take the word no, you must respect yourself first before people can respect you. You don't have any value if you think rejection is a challenge instead of moving on with your life, would wizkid or Davido, Asake waste time on a woman that reject them ? because if even a woman reject them they have thousands that will dig them.


True words no matter how wealthy you are, ladies of any class would always reject you even footballers as wealthy as they are gets rejected and some go the extent of raping this ladies because they refuse to accept a No for an answer,

Before i got into my last relationship, i got reject by more than 50, ladies if not more at some point it didn't get into me anymore i accepted the rejection as they came and then the lady who finally accepted me was even more beautiful than the rest other lady's i got rejected by, i was wondering why i even ask those lady's out in the first place and to even let their rejection get into me, thesedays i don't waste time to ask a lady out, as soon as i meet you on the road before i ask for your contact i tell you i want to date you, your response would let me know if i will collect your number or not

Accepting rejection is not weakness i have seen the most handsome guy i know being rejected by a lady who likes ugly me such is life, if you stick around your rejection you may end up loosing your mind in the long run

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Family / Re: Heartbreaking: Big Python Swallows 6months Old Baby Today In Edo State (photos) by Thebadpolitican(m): 9:45pm On Feb 05
Reason why oyibo are really smarter than the blacks, if this post was made in a white forum it will barely pass the first comment before they spot that the pictures in the background does not correlate

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Culture / Re: Oba Of Benin Went To Ile Ife To See Where They Buried Past Oba's Of Benin by Thebadpolitican(m): 9:10pm On Dec 28, 2023
TAO11:
Lol. It is one thing to praise your king in a language foreign to him.

It is another thing that the “praiser” is of the same ethnicity as your king; he praises your king in a language foreign to both him & your king; the praise words say your king is son to a certain Adimula who is king elsewhere; & your king sits right there proud of the praise words.

Adimila has never been a king in Benin, so if he is a son of Adimila then the father must have been a king, then again Adimila is not a yoruba world, the oba can as well be praised in ibo too by a Benin person
Culture / Re: Oba Of Benin Went To Ile Ife To See Where They Buried Past Oba's Of Benin by Thebadpolitican(m): 8:31am On Dec 10, 2023
TAO11:
“Son of Adimula, Ikeji-oriṣa”!

What precisely is your defense?:

(1) That this ‘oríkì’ is fictitious, & is unheard of by the Bini kings or the Bini people.

(2) That this ‘oríkì’ indeed exists & is recognized by the Bini kings, but it doesn’t mean what it clearly says.
——
Which one?


Praise names are not constant, the are subjective to the praiser, thesedays with a mix of cultures anything goes you can praise a Benin king with any language not just benin only even with ibo

I saw a Benin man on yourube praising the oba with Yoruba words

On the son of adimila this is unlikely it would be a yoruba word, definitely a Benin idol, no kings in Benin history has such name this current oba of Benin accept praises from different dialect unlike the previous
Culture / Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 8:28am On Dec 09, 2023
Christistruth03:



Photo shows Eko Ende, Eko Onde and Eko Ajala all in Osun State

LOL the yorubas people were the ones that named lagos curomo

You don't get eko is the short version of the original called eko-nuahme mispronounced by Europeans as curomo
Culture / Re: Oba Of Benin Went To Ile Ife To See Where They Buried Past Oba's Of Benin by Thebadpolitican(m): 1:59am On Dec 09, 2023
Christistruth00:



Go and Check Oba Of Benin Praise names

He is the Son of Oduduwa of Ile ife




If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished benin Palace praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo that got lost is none of the Oba Of Benin's accomplished Praise singers business , nobody send am and they are not interested in finding him either

As far as they are Concerned Oba Of Benin is the Son of Oduduwa the Olofin Adimula and Ruler of Ile Ife


Tao11 is busy with Work
She will soon turn up


Praise names cannot be used as any form of evidence I asked you of

Praise names are subjectives to the person who is giving the praises you can use any language to praise the king

Like the issue of adimilia, there was no king in Benin that was called that, probably an idol or a deep forgotten Benin word

It was called ovbie adimilia ikeji ooisa and not ovbie adimilia ikeji orisha


Regardless praise names can be used interchangeably and can never be used to justify or draw a Benin-ife connection

It will only be reasonable when such praise name appears before 1914 in a document

Culture / Re: Praise Names Of Omo N'oba N'edo by Thebadpolitican(m): 11:55pm On Dec 08, 2023
macof:
Benin City is a reserve of rich traditions and high reverence for the traditional monarch (Oba of Benin), who once led a powerful Empire.
One of such traditions is the habit of
addressing the Oba of Benin by various
appellations instead of his actual names as sign of deep respect and awe. It is no wonder, therefore, that the Oba of Benin
is known by several appellations.

Such appellations are:
Ovbi' Umogun Oza
The Child of the Oba whose mother hailed from Oza

Ovbi' Ekpen N' Owa

The son of the home leopard

Ovbi' Adimila

The son of Adimila

Ikeji Orisa

Second in command to the gods

Agbaghe, N'Ovbi Olokun

Olokun's son, the cynosure of all mortals

Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe

The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).

Ovbi' Ada, Ovbi' Eben

The child of the owner of the Ada =
scimitar and Eben = royal sword, Edo
symbol of sovereignty.

Ovbi'Ekenekene ma deyo

The son of beauty that never fades.

Ovbi'Ekuaho N'Olo, Ovbi'Ekuabo N'Olo

The son of the rocky arm, the brave and
powerful

Ovbie Ikpinhianbo kpuru no Gb'oduma

The son of the short fingered man that
was still able to kill a lion

Nohien utete no gh'ughe s'omwan

The king on a hill, who sees more than
everybody

Ovbi'Oghonwan nei bun aro

The son of the fearless, who looks
without twinkling his eyes

Ovbi'ode, ode n'ohan ren mu' ete

The son of the warrior whose enemies
got frightened at the announcement of
the approach

Uku Akpolokpolo

The mighty that rules

Ovbi' Adolo no dolo uwa dolo utomwen/b]
The son of the wise judge and peace
maker who combined wisdom and
wealth with long life
[b]
Ovbi' oven owie no gbaisi

The son of the morning sun that covers
everywhere

Ovbi' Akpogunla, ogie no y'igho b'owa

The child of the womb of Akpogunla - the
warrior who fought big wars and built a
house of cowries


Oba n'osa

A king that is god

Ovbi' otolo n'olomi; Ologberonmwon nei rie iruen, ebo, ayemwinre eminiminimini

The son of the water controller, the son
of beauty itself, the starter of things and
the person whose reign saw people with
many tongues


These appellation are in cognissance of
the greatness of the Omo n'oba ne edo,
the Oba of Benin.


Wrong


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Uxpk-Dfbs?si=TBhkjKbia-V7fLP1

That is the YouTube link
To the praise name

Ovbie adimila ikeji oisa and not Ovbi' Adimila Ikeji Orisa

Meaning the child of adimila that is next to the almighty God
Culture / Re: Oba Of Benin Went To Ile Ife To See Where They Buried Past Oba's Of Benin by Thebadpolitican(m): 10:41pm On Dec 08, 2023
Christistruth00:



Go and Check Oba Of Benin Praise names

He is the Son of Oduduwa of Ile ife




If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished benin Palace praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo that got lost is none of the Oba Of Benin's accomplished Praise singers business , nobody send am and they are not interested in finding him either

As far as they are Concerned Oba Of Benin is the Son of Oduduwa the Olofin Adimula and Ruler of Ile Ife


Tao11 is busy with Work
She will soon turn up

The author of those praise name is a fraud a yoruba nairaland man

Are you saying we should belive a nairaland author over an authority from the palace

grin grin
Culture / Re: Oba Of Benin Went To Ile Ife To See Where They Buried Past Oba's Of Benin by Thebadpolitican(m): 7:41pm On Dec 08, 2023
Christistruth00:

Please what does Oranmiyan mean in Edo Language?

It means "My matter has been Settled in my favor" in Yoruba
Or also my Matter and Good destiny is Settled

This means there was a dispute ,or disagreement that has now been settled in his favor


Your ooni is a fraud the oba of Benin still is older than it see the ooni at the bottom before awolowo came to do his trick

Culture / Re: Oba Of Benin Went To Ile Ife To See Where They Buried Past Oba's Of Benin by Thebadpolitican(m): 7:39pm On Dec 08, 2023
Christistruth00:

Please what does Oranmiyan mean in Edo Language?

It means "My matter has been Settled in my favor" in Yoruba
Or also my Matter and Good destiny is Settled

This means there was a dispute ,or disagreement that has now been settled in his favor



Answer my questions


You're so comfortable lying to yourself oba of Benin is yoruba when you know is not

Tao11 did worse and she later gave up the chase
Culture / Re: Oba Of Benin Went To Ile Ife To See Where They Buried Past Oba's Of Benin by Thebadpolitican(m): 6:38pm On Dec 08, 2023
Christistruth00:




Did you say you wanted pre 14th century of the relationship between Ife and Benin?

Ok



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTOqY2THoSE?si=qPtWHRsiO8FWKUCR




Haha, you didn't post the funny clip, you're deceiving yourself

Let's assume that was your evidence but answer me

Answer me this....

If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace, why is at that after leo ferbenous who did an excavation at the orun oba site in Ife found nothing, I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise
Culture / Re: Oba Of Benin Went To Ile Ife To See Where They Buried Past Oba's Of Benin by Thebadpolitican(m): 5:19pm On Dec 08, 2023
Christistruth00:


Do you know that Lagos and Awori was Under Alaafin of Oyo
That was why when Benin first attempted to attack Awori Lagos the Alaafin sent Lagelu to repell them and the Olofin Awori and Lagelu with his Army successfully defeated them

Let me tell you more do you know that Portuguese sometimes fought in the Benin Army?

Portuguese Mercenaries were captured by the Awori they were later released back to the Oba of Benin whether he paid a Ransome for their release I do not know to Continue

It was when the Benin came peacefully requesting that they needed a Trading Post in the Area that the Alaafin Oyo and the Awori permitted them to Stay in Lagos Island

That is why the Land of the Lagos Island still belongs to the Awori people
Because Benin didn't Conquer Lagos it was only granted a Trading Post there

Till today Oba Of Benin has no Land in Lagos

Benin cannot Swim and Benin cannot Canoe
It was even the Itsekiri Yorubas who had Ijebu roots that were actually running the Benin Show on Lagos Island and they were Traders
Benin has so far refused to admit that


If Truth be told Isale Eko on Lagos Island was a was a Slave Market

The Reason the Alaafin Oyo and the Awori people put Benin on the Island was to make sure the Benin would not cause them any Trouble since Benin couldn't even Swim anyway and the Itsekiri Yorubas who ran the entire Lagos show for Benin were not even interested in fighting their Ijebu Kinsmen around Lagos


Finally the Land Mass of Isale Eko on Lagos Island that Benin is even Talking about is less than 1% of Lagos State

The Remaining Is Yoruba and in Badagry Egun

Even Isale Eko is Yoruba
Oba Of Lagos is of Ijesha lineage since Oba Olugun Kutere who was the Ijesha Son of Princess Erelu Kuti'



On top of that it was even Ife that Founded Benin and both the Ogiso dynasty whose Crown Prince Ekhalerderhan they said got lost and Oba dynasty there

Obagodo who founded Igodomigodo Kingdom with his followers from Ife was an Ife man

Obagodo means Oba of Igodo in Yoruba and he was also known as Ogiso Igodo

Your story, sweet but no evidence


Riddle me this
provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefactal wise, Note Europeans documented every aspect of Benin life including food, human scrafice, her civil wars the Europeans ethnograpger visited the Benins palace from their first arrival till the fall of the empire, but how come they didn't see Benin-ife Connection, Benin carrying their dead oba heads to Ife throughout 400years contact with Benins
Culture / Re: Oba Of Benin Went To Ile Ife To See Where They Buried Past Oba's Of Benin by Thebadpolitican(m): 9:49am On Dec 08, 2023
Christistruth00:





grin

If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of Benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished Benin Palace Praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled





As we may have it Benin wasn't organised or a powerful kingdom in the early times, in the beginning they were several villages who had Thier various leaders called ogiso they were several ogiso( sky kings) in the various settlement of Benin. at this time Benin was not one, the various settlement with their own ogiso existed independently. there were no one ruler, until a man called evian, killed a spiritual beast that had been disturbing the various villages surrounding Benin. which the various Ogiso heads couldn't handle and he found favour in the Benin community and the villagers came together to make him the oba of igodo. he ascended the throne as eweka the first
He was blessed with mystical powers and the people likened him as the son of a God, the Ogiso who refused to surrender their sovereignty where forced and the kingdom was formed, this several ogiso heads became chiefs in the new kingdom called ogidomigofo
Which later renamed as edo during oba ewaure reign and turned Benin during the Portuguese arrival who had corrupted Ile binu from the itsekiri warnings that had earlier told them not to venture into Benin City during their arrival and inquisition about the edo people
Years after eweka had died his son expanded the kingdom further Benin on several occasion
Lost some villages under the kingdom that had to be brought back through force, the king of the sea (ogiamen) was a powerful ruler who had ruled the river banks of Benin is territory was independent of Benin even when the Benin kingdom was long establish, oba ewakpe who was a conquerer had waged war on his kingdom that lasted for years but his kingdom was too strong to be defeated lots of lives was lost until an agreement was reached by the ogiamen that Benin would one day take over his territory which was a sure thing, because Benin was flourishing and expanding unlike his territory and that if they have to join Benin that the oba of Benin would respect is terms,and that every oba that ascends the throne would always come and buy his sovereignty from his family at every coronation in terms of paying homage and that if the contract is broken they can choose to live the kingdom, this practice continued for centuries until after Benin empire was brought down by the British and that tradition was stopped by the oba, the only way the ogiame family could use to attack the oba was by false acclimation Of his illegitimacy

Just the way the yoruba were brought into one canopy by awolowo during the formation of Nigeria so as evian who became the first oba of Benin united the kingdom

The Benin kingdom consist of the 36 Benin families

The Benin empire consist of lagos, ondo, ekiti, delta and Co....

The yorubas and other tribes that have issues with the oba of Benin would always use the screenshot to support their claims that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, not until you ask them, if there is any trace of yoruba titles or names or even idols in the oba palace that can trace that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, then they will be left dumbfounded
Culture / Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 6:58am On Dec 08, 2023
Raf4:


In your widest day dreams. Even in the arrangement of kings according to their seniority, your oba is not even among the first 5.
Ooni of Ife, Sultan of Sokoto, Alaafin of Oyo, Awujale of Ijebu, Olowu of Orile Owu, before your Oba of Bini is considered probably after Shehu of Borno.

Check it out ooni is a fraud

Culture / Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 5:35pm On Dec 07, 2023
Raf4:


A fool will always resort to insult when unable to defend their fallacies.
I told you that Obagodo led some other people from Ile-Ife to the land where he founded and named Igodomigodo and established Ogiso dynasty where he became the 1st Ogiso. Yes, some other people outside of Ile-Ife joined him there.
Ile-Ife was aware of and always in contact with Igodomigodo, likewise the Igalas & Nupes, ever before Oranmiyan led another set of Ife people to invade Igodomigodo, renamed it Ile-Ibinu and established Obaship dynasty there.

In summary, both Igodomigodo and Ile-Ibinu/Bini were established by people from Ile-Ife.

Were is your evidence in all this
Culture / Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 4:47pm On Dec 07, 2023
Beuberry:

You ended up shooting yaself in the foot. You eben helped ya sister with more evidence to my studies. Thank you o, Ologbosere descendant. I just researched Tunde Lawal's works and ge made lots of common sense. It helps confirm the following:
* It was Leo Frobenius that was so astonished and linked Ife art to classical Greek art. Cos it shocked him.

* Same Leo Frobenius discovered Benin hot casters from Ife during reign of Oguola. If someone said Oguola reigned in 12th century and another saying it's 13th or 14th century, all join. It's cos radiocarbon dating gives estimates which may not be 100% exact date but at least gives expected estimates. Wikipedia sef said Oguola lived around 12th century. Now listen mu brother, if you can't believe African oral tradition that was backed up with discoveries, artworks & scientific dating then how come you believed ya own Benin oral tradition?
Don't be biased. Benin-Ife had relations. Oranyan is ya first king. Swallow ya pride. Yorubas are t hurting Benin by helping them with more facts to their history.
Lastly, I m a daughter of history so I v reason to state facts. Ya screenshot was helpful.


While William Fagg's chronology has made better sense of the available evidence and rightly deserves its current acceptance, its main problem is that it has been heavily biased by the story that bronze-casting was introduced to Benin from Ife.

Refrence
Babatunde lawal, The Present State of Art Historical Research in Nigeria: Problems and Possibilities. P. 194

The conclusion in the articles says it has not yet been convinced that Ife introduced art to Benin, tho as I stated in one of my writeups that during the time Benins were in the western region the oba of Benin accepted to be one of oduduwa sons to make it realistic Benins ultred their history to support the false claim by supporting Ife introducing artworks to Benin people which even Europeans knows is untrue

My 3rd screenshot says it baffles researchers that the Ife artworks belongs to them as they are no traces of it being made in Ife unlike benins

Again the Ife techinque of creating their artworks is quiet different from that of the Benins, the Benins use the lost wax techinque while the Ife techniques use something different I can't recall the name


I bet you didn't read the full article did you?
Reason why I would always be a step ahead of you...

Culture / Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 2:21pm On Dec 07, 2023
Boyooosa:


Thank you so much for this account, it's so detailed and I've always hoped for this...something different from what some quack historians have been saying here and still f**lishly bragging on (I'm not saying everything u dropped is accurate tho, just appreciate the fact that u could put up a logical story of the topic).

Now, u mentioned that they didn't meet anyone in the Island part but later.moved to badagry side where they met the Aworis

Another clarification I will like to get is, the war between them and the aworis, were they conquered by the Aworis?

Then, were they chased out of Island too, after the conquest,.if they had been conquered by the Aworis?

Thanks and God bless as your prompt response will be appreciated

I said the war between Benins and aworis took
Place in badagary
Benin moved from badagary after defeating aworis to lagos island a better location for trade after both the Benins and Europeans dicoverd lagos island some years after

The movement from badagary to lagos island was not swift, Benin were in badary for years before lagos island was discovered

Aworis didn't defeat Benin as a matter of fact the war Benin lost was only to the bristsh throughout it's history of wars
Culture / Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 2:13pm On Dec 07, 2023
Raf4:


Dispute what I wrote up there na. No way, you can only resort to insult.

You sound nothing that have not been address before before by me


Read this

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274431270_Early_primary_glass_production_in_southern_Nigeria


Read this

https://www.nairaland.com/7463697/orun-oba-ado-ife-benin#118885803
Culture / Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 2:11pm On Dec 07, 2023
Raf4:


Which excavation done on a shrine?
The shrine is still intact in Ile-Ife till today. Have they done any excavation to confirm any of Bini obas buried in Bini apart from Akenzua II and Ereduawa II?


Did you bother checking it, or do you want me to post you the screenshot

https://www.nairaland.com/7463697/orun-oba-ado-ife-benin#118885803


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274431270_Early_primary_glass_production_in_southern_Nigeria.
Read up
Culture / Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 2:03pm On Dec 07, 2023
Beuberry:

How you wan take humiliate the truth? You just disgraced yaself. In your bid to discredit Yorubas you opened up more truth that depicts Benin Yorubas relationship which started when Odede was ya first king.
You said Nigeria education system is dead but others were able to carbe out their history except Benins. If ya educational systems them, wetin come concern Yorubas.
It's obvious the 1897 nuking of Benin by the British has entered ya brain. Possibly you be Ologbosere's descendant cos the string head of suffer for nothing showed clearly on ya head.
Looking at ya name Thebadpolitician, one would see that you are indeed cantankerous in mind.
All you wrote were just secondary school tales.


Now let's examine ya lies.
1. When did Benin & Oyo fight battle sotey Benin defeated Oyo forces? Shey na Dahomey you dey claim? Dahomey wey be half Yoruba & half Ewe? Those ones sef get better brain?

2. If you said Ife no get artworks, who come get am?
The artworks had names. You said the king of Ife just dey dress like the Ife bronze. Do you v any pic of any early Ife kings to determine their look? Why are you so pained about progress of Yorubas? I thought ya concern should be the north? Who do you juju sotey ya brain come mad?

3. Egharevba made adjustments to his analysis cos Ologboseres like you threatened him.

4. Benin & Ife art are so similar. Na jealousy of Ife naturalism that's worrying you.

5. You said I selected just one similar Benin art to that of Ife when there are numerous online. The jealousy of Yorubas from you has eaten ya sense! You said the artworks has open head & Benin no get. Can't their be change in styles? Must Benins do copy & pastor A-Zee? Ancient Benins wise pass you cos if ma you na copy n paste as you did in school you go do.


* Ife & Benin artworks has beaded necks
* Both made busts to depict head as source of life
* Both are made in bronze casting
* Both showed artworks controlled by influence of the palace
* Both are memorial artworks.
* Both has intricate decorations & more.
Below is pic of Oba Oguola and another image of an Ige king and queen. Dressing in similar style to depict there was similarities from ancient times.
Pic 1 Benin
Pic 2 Ife
Pic 3 Benin queen mother
Pic 4 Ife ancient queen image.
Look at the eyes o, the stylized eyes, beads, head etc.
Are you still blind to see the similarities, dear Uncle modern day Ologbosere?


You posted 4 pics and they are all Benins I am confused you need to chill you don't need to rush to reply me

Lastly what do you mean by both Ige king and queen, in your writeup do you mean Ife, and if it is then you never posted any ife artwork mind you all were Benins


Again Ife artworks dont have neck beeded style na madam angry

Compare the two, the Ife neck is just a pattern
Not a beed design

Lastly ife artwork was not memorial, it was religious that why it was buried


As for the artwork not being Ife it's already proven the ooni of Ife was not allowed to open his face to anyone even after death so how did they see his face to sculpture him, and those facial marks are not Ife facial face marks

Screenshot 2 shows Ife facial marks

You need to do more to prove this it was done by Ife people

Even the owo king who had smilar terracotta artwork with Ife when ask he said they were purchased from art merchant

Culture / Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 11:10am On Dec 07, 2023
Boyooosa:


May be the ancestral Binis settled in a part of Lagos island as reflected by all the reports we have here, even your own account affirms that.

My major concern and how I think we can fix this is, when the ancestral Binis migrated to Lagos Island and settled there, did they meet anyone or clan in the land?


They didn't meet anyone there Benin were the first to occupy the area and open it for trade inshort the Europeans and the Benins where the first to set their eyes on the inhabited lagos island both Benins and the Europeans agreed to setup a trade centre at lagos island which soon took place, the then Benin capital in lagos was still in Badagry before it was later moved the island

. You should know that population wasn't much in the past so people tend to conglomerate in one place under a larger population for both protection and everything

The Benins only had 3 people occupying lagos
As noted by a Dutch ethnographer who took account but that of Badagry was occupied by people Before the arrival of Benin it was there the Benin and aworis war took place
Culture / Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 10:51am On Dec 07, 2023
SayNo2SmallPrik:

Yes ooo. Blame my dad very well. Yoruba dad's are something else

I see why you insult your parents openly, don't
Let your parents action determine who you become better still see a therapist

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