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Zeemuthafuka:
Netflix's umbrella academy season 3 too...more of 5 and Diego please

True.

Minemrys:
it's n0t necessarily abt the oscars. Pers0nally, i d0n't like those m0vies. 12hours i can't get back again. And i am s0me0ne who loved incepti0n and interstellar.

From the bolded, it's your personal opinion. I can't hold you against it

johnyace:
I doubt they would, the fact that the other one exists means they already know what to do and what to not do, I'm really hyped for the last airbender

You have a point

philfearon:
Lol.
Take your L in peace @TheKingIsHere!
You quote me, and then you start inputting what you didn't see in my post based on your assumptions. You Have Turned To Shifting The Goal Post!

Now your argument has turned to Stock Comparison! It's no longer about Disney+ and HBOMAX taking over the streaming war from Netflix!

You want to believe so hard in your illusions about Disney+ and HBOMAX, you have forgotten that Reality Is Disappointing.

You are the one taking L while trying hard to grasp straws.

Speaking about stock market that you don't understand.

You would have answered my question on if Zoom is a bigger company than Apple because it's price is more than double of Apple.

Disney + has already taken the number 1 spot in US from Netflix,and that is no Illusions

Petyprincess:
Here is my dinner!

They really pampered you well.

Nice

Petyprincess:
Last year was really tough thanks to covid 19!! This was suppose to be last year trip but thank God after doing two covid 19 test within a week they both came out negative!!

So enjoy my trip with me coupled with some pictures.

Hi, this is lovely.

What agency did you use in booking your flight to the three counties, hotels etc?

I want to know because I plan on going on a trip to these exact countries and Tanzania soon.

I will also appreciate you giving me a hint of the cost as money is no issue here.

Thanks

abduleez1:
My Top 5 most anticipated Series:
LOTR
House of The Dragon
JL Dark
GL Corps
The Sandman

Notable mentions:
The Last Of Us
Avatar: The Last Airbender

Sandman might be a game changer for Netflix. But this Airbender eh, they should not try that to make similar mistake like that nonsense one that was released some years back

abduleez1:
I think the movie is finished.... It's supposed to Premiere this February.... Pushed back cos of Theaters and covid.

Okay...my own Sha be say make the movie come out as I can't wait to see what they did.

Hopefully, it will trigger studios to make more games to live action movies like Tekken, street fighter, final fantasy etc

abduleez1:
Such Blatant Blasphemy......


Which deserves 600 yrs of perpetual flogging in the ruins of Mordor.

Infact eh, Saruman needs to lock minemrys in the darkest dungeon for this blasphemy.

Till date, no movie has been nominated for 11 Oscar awards and won all 11 awards apart from LOTR.

Shittaakeem:
You don't get it
Marvel has nothing to do with star wars movies,tv series and video games. Only comics because of Disney.
Same with MK because WB owns midway games.

Marvel made star wars comics as far back as in 1977 and by then Disney didn't own Marvel.

See here;

https://www.marvel.com/comics/series/20108/star_wars_1977_-_1986

But I get what you're saying, as it's a complicated situation.

Shittaakeem:
No it's not.
It's just like saying star wars is under the Marvel franchise.

Star wars is actually under marvel too.

https://www.marvel.com/comics/events/327/star_wars

Nickshrapnel:
Today, I was thinking about this movie. Won’t they drop a trailer?

From what I know, they're still working on some vfx. Trailer likely to drop February or March

Minemrys:
still doesn't mean oh. If the film dope, u no go really n0tice the run time. I didn't really n0tice endgame's run time when i first saw it. But if the snyder cut gets boring like lord of the rings, then yeah.

Did you just say LOTR is boring?

Na wa o

philfearon:
Because you didn't know what you were saying!

I was showing where Netflix ranked with the parents Company of the Affiliates you are comparing Netflix with.

All you have been saying is "if Netflix don't sit up...Disney+ will take over... HBOMAX will do this one and that."

On my own, i have been pointing you to the spending power of Netflix and where they rank. But, you want me to spell everything out for you.

Bros, you are just contracting yourself.

You made a pointless comparison with Netflix, AT&T and Disney stock prices knowing fully well that their streaming services are not available on the stock market.

You didn't have a single stat, fact or data to back yourself that's why you brought in the stock issh.

I then showed you how flawed your comparison between the three companies and you tagging Netflix bigger than Disney and At&T because of share price.

Finally, if Disney+ or hbomax got listed on the stock exchange, you think their value will be low, especially with the fact that Disney+ is now number one in the US?

You don't need to spell anything out because you don't even understand what you're writing.

BTW, this was you again using Netflix bigger share price as a yardstick that Netflix is bigger than Disney+
vvvv

philfearon:
The Stock don't lie!

The Bring Netflix Down campaign is not working! Netflix is already the game changer. Disney+ and co will continue to play catch up for the moment...

The way you have contradicted yourself in this argument eh.

Well, ww see the outcome far much later.

Peace

First look into Mortal Kombat movie.

#Fun fact: Mortal Kombat is actually under the DC franchise

abduleez1:
Nah, for where.... na HBOMAX stupid like that.

Once you release am that way, after one or two weeks the hype and noise go die down...no trend again.

They are very smart....they knew they got very little or nothing in terms of New Content release unlike the rest that's why this format is perfect for them. They need the subscribers, main reason I think SnyderCut was greenlit.

But HBOMax is really slow in pushing out their production of their major New projects. That's why this WB strategy of Theaters/Streaming hybrid is perfect for 'em. I hope they ramp up speed. Cos I can't wait for JL Dark and GL Corps past 2022. Even Last Of Us sef na probably 2022, same with House of The Dragon. Abeg we need speed.

The show I am really excited for is the LOTR and GOT. I've been a huge fan of this franchise for years.

I also can't wait to watch Green lantern and Justice league dark. WB should fast track these projects biko

abduleez1:
Lol, I saw something like that some hours back on Twitter.
Na God go punish am for me.....I think say him dey talk about sacrificing himself for true justice even if no Flash cameo some hours back. Doing the right thing for posterity and all yenyehnyen!!

Yeye dey smell....if WB call back this ungrateful and wimpy biiii!!!t©h back I go vex sef.... in fact I don dey vex like dis. I don zero mind and no wan see am again sef...DC no need all this drama(queen) at this point in time. Na to forge ahead. No be this wan wey go dey draw us back.

Imagine as the mugu dey hype and praise Geoff some years back for comic con. Even Momoa shock sef dey look am.

The thing is that he got massive support from the Snyder fans so, it eventually got the better part of him and he lost himself.

WB has already dismissed Joss Whedon from their upcoming series "the nevers|, and sent Geoff Johns back to comics and tv shows because of him.

They also assured him of better working conditions but he so wanted Geoff Johns to be sacked, which we all know will be impossible atm since GJ is highly valuable at the comics section. (Although, i don't mind them sacking GJ sha).

I hope both Ray and WB finally resolve the issue because I really loved his Cyborg character and want him to get a solo movie.

abduleez1:
It's gonna be split as a one-hour-per-four episodes series format.....then after premiering four weeks later it's combined as a 4 hour long movie for outright binge watch.

Okay, I saw something online saying it's coming out as a 4 hours movie at once.

Fear catch me

philfearon:
You are just whining yourself bro.

My comments that you posted is very clear. Your mind is your limitation here because there are things i'm expecting should be obvious, but obviously, it's not.

I have been trying since the beginning to tell you that all this HBOMAX and Disney+ comparison BS with Netflix is just marketing. I don't know how else you want me to say it.

If this is all you were saying, why did you make a comparison between Netflix, Disney and AT&T share price? Why bring it up in the first place?

@abduleez1,

E be like say Ray Fisher is about to eat the humble pie and move on.

He should have been diplomatic about this all along while laying his complaints.

He should learn from John Boyega

philfearon:
Is Disney+ worth $130billion?
Is HBOMAX worth $250+billion?
Can any of them both worth $130billion in five years time, Expert Stock Investor?

But, dude, Netflix is worth $190billion+.

I have been avoiding spelling this out for you, hoping you will defer to logic. Argue wisely bro. It's not everything they spell out.

All you are doing is display zero knowledge of how the media works.

You can see why I said you should stop attaching sentiments to this argument?

Now, see what you said initially;

philfearon:
As you can see, Netflix stock is 2 times bigger than both Walt Disney Company and AT&T stock combined. Both Disney+ and Hbomax are just one of the ventures of both companies. I hope you get the point?

Argue wisely!

You came here to boast that Netflix is twice bigger than Disney and AT&T combined due to stock price.

From this statement, you clearly stated that since Netflix is twice Walt Disney Company and AT&T stock combined, D+ and HBOmax are nothing near it since there are an arm of the companies.

And I clearly let you know that the stock price is not a valid argument here.

That's why I asked you, according to your stock price ideology, is Zoom as a company bigger than Apple since Zoom's price is more than twice of Apple's price in the NSE? I haven't gotten an answer from you on this.

Zack Snyder's Justice league is given enough rom to shine this March which is a good way to start the year.

Really happy for Zack to redeem himself, although that 4 hours time frame is going to be an issue imo

And before the answer to the question on if zoom is a better company than Apple because it's share price is higher than Apple on the NSE, see the net worth of Zoom and see the net worth of Apple.

I deal with facts and not sentiments

philfearon:
Correlation! That's why i asked you to argue wisely.

Some things are pretty obvious and needs just common sense to understand. But, let me educate you.

Bro, seriously you should take your own advise cos as it stands I have been the one educating you.

I have buttressed my points with facts, figures and stats. You on the other hand only provided stock price which is of not use in this argument.

For example, you claimed that because Netflix stock price is higher than Disney and AT&T, it bigger than the two. Yet, you have not provided the screenshot of each companies worth which I request that you do so. And, you say I should argue wisely. Lol

I will do you a favour by posting a screenshot of the net worth of Netflix, Disney and AT&T (shown in Pic 1, 2 and 3). And as you can see from the images, despite AT&T have a share price of $29.50, it's worth is still bigger than Netflix. Even Disney despite being affected by the pandemic, it's net worth is close to that of Netflix. So, you bringing out share price is actually pointless.

In football, every upcoming talented footballer is likened to Lionel Messi. Why? The answer is obvious, isn't?

This here has no basis in this argument.

Disney+ and HBOMAX can only make their marketing stronger by linking Netflix into the mix. Your problem is that you don't understand that Netflix is like Hollywood unto itself at the moment.

You saying "I don't understand that Netflix is like Hollywood itself" is another blind argument. Blockbuster entertainment was also seen as Hollywood before Netflix came, now Blockbuster is no more.

One thing you should understand, is that no one can stand on top forever. As it stands, Netflix just lost the number 1 spot in the US in 2020 (as shown in pic 4).

Check the calendar for the year. How many series/movies did you see in Disney+ and HBOMAX template?

If netflix likes, let them release 1,000 movies. The question is are these movies 100% quality when compared to their competitors? Netflix released over 100 movies last year, yet, it didn't stop D+ from snatching US from them in 2020.

Now, compare That with Netflix. Did Netflix make all the movies/series coming to their platform in 2021 last year? Just because you are DC Fan doesn't mean you should start wading into things you practically have zero knowledge about.

This is another blind argument, yet na you go dey say argue wisely.

Despite me being a DC fan, I have stated how D+ has dominated the streaming wars last year and even how they have wrestled the number spot in the US from Netflix. Does Disney now own DC?

The difference between you and I in this argument is that I argue with facts, you on the other hand keep arguing based on sentiments.

Of course, you should know by now that a public company is as good as their stock. How do you think Elon Musk became the richest man on earth at the moment? It's because Tesla stock rose.

It's obvious you just started investing in the stock market because you have loooot to learn.

Elon Musk became the richest man in the world because he owns the largest share holding (20%) in Telsa (price is $800), once the price moves up his wealth increases. That's why he beat Jeff Bezos as the richest man despite Amazon share price is $3,127 (x4 of Telsa)..

Netflix has one of the best performing stocks in the market at the moment. Their stock is bigger than both Walt Disney Company and AT&T combined. Their only business is just digital streaming and nothing else.

Zoom is more than double the price of Apple in the stock market, will you now say because of the price, zoom company is far better than Apple? I seriously need you to answer this question.

Does it make sense to you that as Disney+ and HBOMAX entered the streaming service, Netflix will just sit and watch them? It's simply common sense that Netflix will up their game.

The issue here is that you aren't seeing the big picture here.

Netflix knew that the major studios were coming on board the streaming service and folded their hands too long before they took any necessary steps. 2 years ago, Amazon quickly purchased a big franchise and spent $1bn for it (including production). Netflix was still looking.

Now, they are feeling the impact in the US and in other sub markets like the UK. They are now scampering to take actions by stopping a lot of unnecessary tv shows, slashing the number of movies produced per year and now bringing in top actors/actresses into their movies per year.

This is what they should have done long ago if they weren't watching D+ and HBOmax

Which is why I want to know exactly what your argument is about since more months now.

Regards.

Like i have said severally, Netflix is about to be booted from the number 1 spot WW (it was booted from the no 1 spot in the US in 2020).

If you still find it difficult to understand what the argument is again after this, then there is nothing else I can do.

Minemrys:
it's n0t exactly by beloved oh. It's all about ingenuity. Netflix can start branding themselves as an original c0ntent streaming site, and use that to get ahead. N0t every0ne wants to see lord of the rings or cb films every time. Like me, i am starting t0 l0ose interest in cb films and acti0n films. There are alot of people who fr0m time to time, want to see s0mething different. Netflix are g0od in this area. Check netflix's c0ntents, they aren't formulaic like disney films. They are a bit like wb and universal. So, we can't write netflix off. Be that as it may, we are in unchartered territory n0w and it only gets interesting.

You forget that HBO is the king of ingenuity and originals abi?

Even Netflix aspired to be like HBO in terms of original content.

However, never under estimate beloved franchises. People will pay huge money to watch a remake of Lion king but few people will pay to watch original content of the irishman.

abduleez1:
Lol......

Tbh, there is no winner or loser in this argument between myself and philfearon. It's just for fun and enlightenment.

At the end of the streaming wars, the fans are the real winners

abduleez1:
Lol, you don't mean it....

120 high quality Trash Vs 70 High brow Decent budgeted movies.....

Na us this war go favour pass..... Netflix ride on. I actually like their production speed and rate...

Now they're signing big Actors, Directors, Buying Big IP's and the likes. They got Kevin Hart a four movie deal for some good amount, same for Nicole Kidman and them others.
Now they'll have all the Buzz and fanfare....it's late 2021 and 2022 they'll start to know no one's smiling with 'em. HBOMax will be debuting The Last Of Us, House of Dragon in 2022 and 2 DC movies. Also most of HBOMax planned (major) series will start premiere that year. Also don't forget DC New series like JL Dark and Green Lantern Corps.
Na that time dem go know what's up.

Amazon is reeling out LOTR this year, Disney+ is dishing out 3/4 Marvel series this year. No joy for Netflix cos their series they got planned ain't as Big as other Major streamers. Only Biggie I see going for em is The Witcher with Henry Cavill's star power. The next Biggie I can think of next for them is Avatar like action.

Exactly

Minemrys:
i have to agree and disagree with you. One thing about c0mpetiti0n is, it's n0t by how l0ng or how new one is but what you bring to the table. These studios mostly have remakes, sequel up0n sequel being churned out, spin offs. But netflix m0st times dish out original stuff, grant creative freed0m. Hence, it's all about their strength and ingenuity.

The bolded has buttressed my point. These new streaming services are bringing the most beloved movies franchises to the streaming screen.

Franchises like DC, Marvel, Star wars, GOT, LOTR, Classic cartoons, Monsterverse, Wizardry world etc to the big screens while also dishing out original content (with the exception of Disney as they lack originality).

I think Amazon just spent a whopping $1bn just to get the TV series right and produce LOTR show. You think any studio will cough out that huge amount if not to win over fans of this franchise?

Netflix has the stranger things franchise but the need to build more and fast

Minemrys:
chai! Baba d0n forget. What of when him rape butcher wife.

After butcher's wife, how many woman did he womanize?

H0melander hasn't really fallen for any0ne if you rewatch. He falls for himself and lust w0men. He was hitting on Maeve while with elizabeth shue character.

Well, if he was a womanizer, he wouldn't threaten to kill stormfront initially, rather he would've toasted her. He would have also toasted the female secretary who's always with the seven.

Check his reacti0n to w0men. He loves sex so much. Damn, he was even jerking off at the end of the seas0n 2.

He was jerking off because stormfrost isn't whole again after his son blasted her. It's like saying people that masturbate are womanizers.

Also, did you see his reaction when he saw stormfront's limbs being shredded?

philfearon:
As you can see, Netflix stock is 2 times bigger than both Walt Disney Company and AT&T stock combined. Both Disney+ and Hbomax are just one of the ventures of both companies. I hope you get the point?

Argue wisely!

Guy, you are the one who isn't arguing wisely but out of sentiment.

Google out the company worth for Netflix, Disney and AT&T and post it here so that we can all see if it correlates with the price of the stocks.

Zoom price is double the price of apple in the stock market. So, according to your analysis, zoom has far more worth than Apple, abi?

I can explain how the stock market works (but it ain't free)

philfearon:
Lol.

You are just speculating based on your own assumptions. You talk like you have insider information about Netflix, Hollywood and the long term business plan Netflix work with.

You keep talking about what is obvious. "If they don't sit up!" Lol. Did you seriously type that?

If you have been following Netflix for the past six years, you won't be showcasing this limited knowledge of things you are doing.

Lmao!!! Abeg o!

Me speculating?

I have provided facts, figures and stats.

You on the other hand provided on stock charts. Lol

philfearon:
Obviously, Disney+ and Hbomax will get higher number of downloads of recent because they're both new.

Not really, youtube came out long before Netflix but youtube almost have similar download numbers with Netflix in 2020. And if you looked closely, even hulu app made more money than Netflix in the US in 2020.

Aren't you surprised at the number Netflix is still getting despite it's many years in the industry?

Numbers of subscribers in the WW;

Netflix (Age 8-10years) - 200m-220m
Disney plus (Age 1year+) - 88m-100m

Looking at this info, tell me which stat is surprising?

The objective of Netflix at the moment is feeding their millions of users as well as attracting new ones. They're doing perfectly fine in both.

I am not disputing this as this is all streaming service ideas and goals

I really don't understand what your point is. What exactly are you saying? That Netflix will die because Disney+ and HBOMAX entered the streaming industry?

The argument is simple and clear. Netflix will end up losing the streaming wars (especially that number one spot) if they don't sit up like crazy. Currently, they are number one streaming service WW but will be knocked out of that position soon if they don't wake up.

*We already saw that Netflix is already sitting up by scrapping a lot of their tv shows, reducing the numbers of their movies and now focusing on big budget movies per year with top rated actors/actresses. Netflix is highly aware of the huge threat the big studios portray in the war*

With all the thousands of streaming sites/app in the world, YouTube is still functional and continues to grow.

Lol, despite Youtube being known WW and being around for years (close to 2 decades), their YouTube red streaming service (youtube's exclusive movies and tv shows service) is as good as DEAD due to the fact that there are bigger boys coming into the streaming service. Youtube sold cobra kai to Netflix because their SVOD (for movies and shows) is dead.

So, remind me again. Whats with the constant backlash at Netflix?

Not backlash but facts bro.