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Politics / Re: There Are Juju Worshippers In My Entourage - Patience Jonathan by TheOtherview: 9:42pm On Mar 25, 2015
Kudos to Mama Peace for acknowledging African Traditional Religion (ATR).

Ok, I take back some of my recent posts. grin

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Politics / Re: See The Controversial Front Page Of Sun Newspaper That Got Nigerians Talking by TheOtherview: 9:35pm On Mar 25, 2015
Mrbigman1:


Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

They could kidnap as much as a million, that's what they wish for.

I guess ur conscience has a soft spot for missing items but as for whatever is happening in the north, it's all a game to end sooner than later.

When dey wia called upon at the early stages of this issues to rectify it with dia traditional ruler and governors, they played a game with it and not the game have overtaken them, why should I worry much when it's a northerner killing his brother for fun. If it was a westerner and a northern issue, then I can believe it's so serious. They should go on, allow dem selves to be fvcked in d ass all in the name of wanting power

Had I known I was addressing someone who has become completely unhinged, I wouldn't have bothered.

According to WHO’s atlas on mental health, neuro-psychiatric disorders in Nigeria are estimated to contribute 6.2 per cent of the global burden of disease.

Eight regional psychiatric hospitals and few psychiatry departments in 12 medical schools across the country cater for the mental health of Nigerians in a ratio that is simply frightening and mind-boggling.

Even though the frequently quoted psychiatrist-population ratio is 1:10,000, a 2011 WHO statistics put the ratio of psychiatrists in Nigeria as 0.06 doctors to 100,000 Nigerians (less than one psychiatrist to one million Nigerians).

There are less than 200 psychiatrists in Nigeria currently, while all the psychiatric hospitals in the country have a capacity of 4,000 bed spaces at a ratio of 2.5 per every 100,000 Nigerians.

Since the universally acceptable psychiatrist-population ratio of 1: 10,000 was adopted by many countries, Canada and the US have upgraded. Canada now advocates a ratio of 1:6,500, while the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Psychiatrists recently recommended between 1:7,500 and 1:10,000.

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Politics / Re: See The Controversial Front Page Of Sun Newspaper That Got Nigerians Talking by TheOtherview: 9:15pm On Mar 25, 2015
Mrbigman1:


500 persons is not 500 Naira.

Humans got value, how is it possible to make away with 500 person wen soldiers are all over d north?

U wanna tell me dat in d unsecured places, dia re still 500 person living freely?

All dis nonsense that people just write and post to draw attention and some gullible ones believe is so annoying.


Why don't you give us a ball park figure then, all-knowing, all-seeing TANoid?

Several hundred people were abducted by the Islamic militants as they retreated earlier this month from Damasak in northeastern Nigeria, Mike Omeri, the Nigerian spokesman for the fight against Boko Haram, told The Associated Press Wednesday. He said he could not specify how many were kidnapped but local reports say as many as 500 people were taken.

Source: http://time.com/3758081/boko-haram-nigeria-civilians-extremism-africa/

And by the way, while you are trying to locate a neatly rounded figure, search for your missing conscience. angry

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Politics / Re: Fate Of E-warriors After The Election Is Over?? by TheOtherview: 8:53pm On Mar 25, 2015
Some would resort to setting up blogs, using their newly acquired skills - cloning FB pages; producing pretty convincing photoshop images; spamming the blogosphere with meaningless rants - to blackmail their out-of-favour principals. Since they know where the bodies are buried, they would conclude that there is no better way to achieve ephemeral gains than using proof of wrong-doing to exact monetary favours. Others would of course resort to cyber crime.

I am afraid such would be the lot of the e-thugs who dare to walk the path of ignominy, in pursuit of illusory rewards.

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Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 3:58pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


The document provided by buhari's school is fraught with alterations and shows great signs of alteration that is why we shouted that it is fake. We will leave this matter only when Cambridge published the same result sheet as published by that katsina school. Do you understand now? Look at the statement released for yourself and see the superimposition! The documents lacks integrity!

If you are expecting me to indulge you, by analysing a scanned copy of a document that might have gone through several iterations (and hands), you are clearly not as bright as I initially thought you were.

I am done with this retaaardded debate. My arguments are in full view for the benefit of the more objective reader.
Politics / Op-Ed: Don’t Steal Nigeria’s Election - Jean Herskovits (new York Times) by TheOtherview: 3:51pm On Mar 25, 2015
Don’t Steal Nigeria’s Election

MARCH 25, 2015

LAGOS, Nigeria — Nigeria’s government canceled the February presidential election just days before it was to be held, postponing it until March 28. If this weekend’s vote is delayed, disrupted or canceled, it will imperil the democratic future of Africa’s most populous country.

This election is unlike any other in Nigerian history. President Goodluck Jonathan’s Peoples Democratic Party is facing the first credible challenge to a ruling party, and he is intent on staying in power, even though popular discontent with the P.D.P. is rife.

If the election had been held as scheduled on Feb. 14, it is likely that Gen. Muhammadu Buhari of the opposition All Progressives Congress would have won. The six-week delay broke the A.P.C.’s momentum and gave the P.D.P. time to to reverse the tide. Incumbency guarantees access to the treasury and command of the security forces — the first is in play now, and the second could be during the election and its aftermath.

Nigerian politics can be murderous; Mr. Buhari has already survived one attempted assassination, an October bombing in Kaduna. And if there is another postponement, a contrived disruption on election day that leads to an unconstitutional interim arrangement, or if the election results do not appear credible, Nigeria could erupt in violence.

Although Nigerians have often been divided along ethnic, religious and regional lines, there has been a remarkable change. Until quite recently, southern Nigerians overwhelmingly supported Mr. Jonathan, a southern Christian. That view prevailed in 2011, when Mr. Buhari also ran for president. The influential Lagos press portrayed him as a dictatorial, fanatical Muslim seeking to impose Shariah on the whole country despite the fact that Christians were a majority in his cabinet when he ruled the country in the mid-1980s.

But daily life has worsened and corruption has escalated. Last year, Mr. Jonathan removed from office the respected governor of the Central Bank, Lamido Sanusi, after Mr. Sanusi announced that in one 15-month period at least $20 billion in government funds went unaccounted for. (The government recently claimed that an audit had found that “only $1.47 billion” was missing).

Meanwhile, the same central government has failed to send money it owes to the states, and teachers and other civil servants have gone unpaid. Currency devaluation and inflation mean that unpaid and laid-off workers in the public and private sectors are now in the same boat as the country’s impoverished and jobless millions. They are unlikely to vote for the status quo.

There have been military humiliations, too. Nigerians are embarrassed that their army needed reinforcements from smaller, poorer neighbors like Chad, Niger and Cameroon to reclaim northern towns from the terrorist group, Boko Haram. In fact, no Nigerian troops were present in some of the liberated towns. Worse, the government is hiring South African mercenaries for $400 a day in a country where soldiers are paid much less, often late, or not at all.

Frontline troops have long complained they did not have adequate equipment or sufficient ammunition. But according to the government’s own figures, a quarter of federal budgets since 2010 have been allotted to security. Many Nigerians conclude that the money has gone to enrich the army top brass and their civilian colleagues.

The February election was supposedly postponed so that the military could focus on the offensive it has now launched against Boko Haram. But the government’s priority doesn’t appear to be protecting Nigeria’s people and territory; its goal is to stay in power. The postponement has simply allowed the ruling party more time to spend money the opposition cannot match.

Many Nigerians now see Mr. Buhari as the man who can deliver them from corruption and insecurity. He was Nigeria’s military ruler from 1984-85. He was petroleum minister before that. And in the late 1990s, as a civilian, he chaired the Petroleum Trust Fund. He could have enriched himself, but he did not. In the 1980s, he repelled a Chadian invasion and acted decisively against an earlier extremist Muslim group. As Adeyemi Adefulu, a Yoruba civil servant who was unjustly imprisoned under Mr. Buhari’s regime during sweeping arrests of the allegedly corrupt in the 1980s, wrote recently, “Our jailer has become our hope.” He is now actively campaigning for Mr. Buhari.

With so much at stake, the United States must play a constructive role. Secretary of State John Kerry has stressed that the election must take place on Saturday and that it be “free, transparent and credible.” And Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. last week expressed support for the electoral commission and urged electronic authentication of voters.

More is needed. America must publicly insist on retaining the head of the electoral commission, preventing any election-day violence or intimidation by security forces, and announcing results at each polling place. And voters should not be prevented from using mobile phones to photograph local results as a precaution against later rigging.

This election must not be stolen from the people. Mr. Kerry has suggested that visa restrictions could be placed on anyone who interferes with the electoral process. This policy, along with a threat of targeted financial sanctions, should be announced now and it should include members of Nigeria’s security forces.


The global fall in oil prices, Nigeria’s squandered foreign reserves and the draining of an account intended to cushion price shocks mean that Nigerians face hard times ahead. They deserve to choose who will lead them through those times.

Jean Herskovits, a research professor at the State University of New York, Purchase, has written on Nigerian politics since 1970.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/opinion/dont-steal-nigerias-election.html
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 3:10pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


You are still deviating from the topic. The requirement was for certificates to be submitted and Jonathan submitted all his certificates to INEC. There is nowhere it is required to submit thesis but certificates.

UNIPORT has issued an official statement declaring Jonathan's certificates as authentic. When will buhari contact Cambridge to do the same for him Since you have no regard for UNIPORT, I believe you will have a lot of respect for Cambridge if they should issue an official statement declaring that they issued WASC to buhari.

Now my question still remains, why is buhari avoiding the Cambridge? Is there leprosy of ebola plague at Cambridge? Even if buhari does not want to visit Cambridge physically, fine and accepted. We are in 2015 and there are modern ways of sending messages using emails and all that. is it that buhari cannot afford a computer or internet connection or what?

WHY IS BUHARI AVOIDING CAMBRIDGE that supposedly issued him a WASC? Jonathan is not avoiding UNIPORT oo. wink grin grin

I was only trying to expose your tomfoolery by pointing drawing parallels with UNIPORT's rejection of an FOI request. Get it?

The excerpt provided here, which comes from the OCR website, should serve to reinforce my earlier point on this subject.

Examination centres are required to keep hold of unclaimed certificates for a period of 12 months. So if you took your exams within the last year you should contact the Exams Officer at your school or college to check if they have the original certificates.

Otherwise, you will need to apply for a certifying statement of results (for 14–19 qualifications) or a replacement certificate (for vocational qualifications). The processes are different so please ensure you complete the correct form.

Source: http://www.ocr.org.uk/ocr-for/learners-and-parents/lost-or-incorrect-certificates/

Do you notice that only a certifying statement of result would be supplied for Buhari's WASC?
Is the same document already available in the public domain, courtesy of Katsina College? Absolutely!

Now prove you are graduate and stop scrapping the bottom of the barrel with banal suggestions.
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:38pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


Don't deviate from the issue here. The requirement is not to submit Thesis but certificates which Jonathan has submitted. buhari on the other hand said he left his certificate with the military.

http://www.punchng.com/news/jonathans-phd-certificate-authentic-uniport/

UNIPORT has issued a statement decalring Jonathan's certificates as authentic. We are yet to hear from the Cambridge that supposedly issued buhari with WASC. The question still remains, why is it difficult for buhari to contact Cambridge to issue a statement saying that buhari was presented with a WASC to kill this matter once and for all

Well, it is my considered view that GEJ might have committed perjury cheesy
You don't trust Katsina college, I don't trust UNIPORT.

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Earlier post:

It will amount to institutional immolation, if Uniport comes clean on this one.

Anyone ever tried to squeeze blood from a stone?

Exclusive: So we went looking for the thesis and certificates of Pres. Jonathan & Sambo – this is what we found



As the 14 February, 2015 date for the presidential elections draws closer, supporters and critics of the country’s two major parties, the People’s Democratic Party (PDP) and the All Progressives Congress (APC) have been at loggerheads over the candidates of their respective parties.

In December, it crystallized into a debate over the academic credentials of both candidates, especially those of President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.

The president’s profile on the State House website reads thus: “He graduated with Second Class Upper honours in 1981. In 1985 and 1995 he studied for his Master’s and Ph.D degrees in Hydrobiology and Fisheries Biology, and Zoology respectively, from the same University.”

This gave him the status of being Nigeria’s most educated President ever. This was until the masses inspired by the increasing influence of social media and improved citizens participation in governance, began to ask questions.


Some began to ask, for a president with issues of eloquence and clarity of thought according to his critics, where was the evidence of his doctorate degree? For one whose campaign team has asked the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) to disqualify his main challenger over the same issue of academic qualifications, wasn’t this being a proverbial case of removing the speck in another’s eyes when a log is embedded in the accuser’s?

It caused so much of a storm; we went in search of the president’s thesis.

Mrs. Victoria Boyo was Head of Department (HOD) of Home Economics at the time when Dr. Jonathan was a lecturer at the Rivers State University of Education confirmed that he was a colleague then. “He was one of those very quiet people who couldn’t hurt a fly,” she recalls. “He hardly participated in even campus politics but as far as his qualifications are concerned, I don’t know anything.”

At the departmental library of the Department of Zoology (now Animal & Environmental Biology), a dedicated two-hour search by two volunteers combing through the shelves, yielded nothing.
The resident librarian, who joined the departmental staff in 2006 says she got to the task of arranging the projects, dissertations and theses of past students at the undergraduate, postgraduate and doctoral levels as soon as she arrived. “I never once came across the president’s doctoral thesis,” she said, on condition of anonymity.

The catalog in the library was no help as it lists only theses submitted from 2007.

The entire department moved to its present location on third floor of the four-storey building that houses the entire College of Sciences in 1993 from the old Choba Park campus that at present still has the Faculty of Education. While it is possible that many copies of such documents were misplaced in the relocation, Jonathan’s could not have been among the affected ones, as he supposedly submitted it two years later, in 1995.

Another member of staff who wouldn’t want her name in print, mentioned that during an accreditation exercise and inspection tour of the school as recently as 2014, officials of the National Universities’ Commission (NUC) asked to be shown the departmental library. While inside, they asked to see the thesis of Jonathan, the department’s most prominent export ever, but it was unavailable. At the time, she says, a new HOD had just been appointed who claimed not to know the status of the missing document, leaving the NUC officials bewildered.

Interestingly, Jonathan’s Master’s dissertation obtained in 1986 in Hydro-Biology and Fisheries Biology specialization in the same course (Zoology), was also nowhere to be found – even though there are some that date back as far as 1981.

Of course, record-keeping in Nigeria is notoriously poor and many universities are yet to digitize their libraries.

Roseline Konya, professor of pharmacology and toxicology, and one-time Commissioner for Environment under the administration is currently the Dean of Graduate Studies at the university. Back in 1995, she supervised one Asim E. Eno. By virtue of the time of submission, Konya could have also supervised the President if he was a doctorate student then. Attempts to reach her proved abortive as she was “not on seat” when this reporter visited. Mails to her have been unreplied.

“Who you wan put for trouble,” someone in her office said after offering her email address, while refusing to give up her mobile number. “She will never reply you on this matter.”


Below are pictures from the thesis of one Asim E. Eno who also submitted a thesis in 1995, the same year Jonathan supposedly did his too.





The current Head of Department for Animal & Environmental Biology, Professor Florence Nduka, also could not be reached for comments as at the time of publishing this report as she was also “not on seat”.

An official enquiry submitted to the school administration has not been replied.

An extensive search online revealed a conference paper, “Identification of West African Estuarine Shrimp and Crab Larvae” which was co-written by Jonathan, G.E. with Powell, C.B. and Hart, A.I. (1985) on Aquatic Commons, the directory for publications on natural marine, estuarine, brackish and fresh water environments. At this time, the president was still a lowly lecturer in the Department of Biology at the Rivers State College of Education.

In the aforementioned 1985 paper, Jonathan self-references a publication which is in all likelihood, his Master’s dissertation. Titled “Stage 1 larvae of fresh and brackish water decapod crustaceans (excluding Natantlal) of the Niger Delta”, it is however dated 1984, two years earlier than the quoted date which is present in all his official profiles and bios. Further search on Aquatic Commons for the PhD thesis turned up no results whatsoever for the year 1995.

There were a few other conference papers online in the Web of Science journal under the name “G.E. Jonathan”. While it was not possible to determine accurately the identity of the author, they were published in 2003, 2006 and 2010 which would make him (if he were the one) a multitasker and intellectual of the highest order, combining the challenges of governance with the rigours of academic research.

No single academic journal has an online record of his research from 1985 – 1995 when Jonathan should have been very active as an academic scholar, which is why the renewed activity between 2003-2010 when he was in active politics, seems suspect.

“The first person listed is usually the author of the publication and other names are usually those of scholars or senior colleagues in the field, to give the paper weight and attract favourable reviews”, explained the Librarian. ”It is very possible that he did not author those papers.”

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Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:35pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


Something close kinda close to that.

It's foolishness to continue to hold onto one's point when superior one is brought forward. I retreated cos I couldn't counter your argument. That's the way I learn.

However, another fellow showed you some holes in your arguments. No one knows it all. Accept or counter his points, and move on.

The case remains; why GMB dey avoid Cambridge like EBOLA?

Having satisfied the requirement of INEC, Buhari clearly sees no reason to fulfil the demands of acerbic TANoids.

Further more, read one of my earlier posts on this subject:

And two; OCR would only provide a 'certifying statement of results' - the equivalent of the same document already provided by Katsina college - and not an original CERTIFICATE.

Trust me on this one, it is with some humility that I lay claim to being better informed that most partisan commentators.
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:24pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


Thank you for spotting the holes I didn't see in his arguments.

This matter should have ended months ago.

Buhari keeps avoiding the Cambridge like it's sone kind of a plague!

Hahahahahahaahahahahahahhhhhahaa.

U get mouth die.

Consolation huh?

Having torn each of your arguments to shreds, you now bask in make-belief glory?
Anyway, it is pretty clear you need it.
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:23pm On Mar 25, 2015
Strike that last post - get me his MSc/BSc thesis instead. grin
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:22pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


Believe me he understands very well what you have been trying to say and what I have been trying to point out too; he is just pretending. Such is the type of "Change" the APC wants to give Nigeria. embarassed embarassed

Get me GEJ's PhD thesis, and I will join your campaign train for 'a certified true copy' of Buhari's certificate. Deal?
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:11pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


You are not as smart as you think, why is buhari avoiding Cambridge? The institution is still in existence so why dodging them?

I care little for the appraisal of faceless NL commentator, thank you.
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:08pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


Don't you think buhari can put an end to all these drama once and for all by contacting Cambridge to give hi a certified-true-copy of his WASC?

Why dancing left, right and center when there is a very easy way out of this whole shiit?

An easy way out of the shiit for who? The TAN movement? Large sections of the Nigerian electorate who don't give a rat's arse about his WASC qualification? Or just EUROFIGHTERR?

My advice to Buhari would be, to continue ignoring all the bellicose noise.
It is time Nigerians learnt to elevate the debate about their future instead of chasing inconsequential matters.
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:03pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


Ok, we agree that buhari sat for the final exams and obtained his WASC, accepted. Now we also agree that the WASC has been misplaced somehow, maybe by the military or IBB or whatever, accepted.

Now when you lose your original certificate, the right thing to do is to approach your school and try to get at least a certified-true-copy. My question is this, why is it so difficult for buhari to reach out to WASC to check their records and issue him a certified-true-copy of his WASC?

Why is it that the APC has spent so much money in arguing certificate matter when they could easily have used a small amount of money to help buhari contact Cambridge and get a certified-true-copy?


Logically, would it not be a devastating blow to the PDP for buhari to get his certified-true-copy from Cambridge and put the PDP to shame? Imagine how PDP would be disgraced if buhari presents this certified-true-copy so what is preventing buhari from contacting Cambridge? At least Cambridge is still in existence and he was even in the UK recently.

Is it that buhari does not have the resources to contact Cambridge and silence his critics once and for all?

To the emboldened section of your post - I say he was only following an approach he had adopted in the past.
I have similarly leveraged an affidavit, to get myself out of a bind, because the provisions of the law allowed it.

Blame the game not the gamer.
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:58pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


If all these be true, then the case is as good as NO CASE!

I drew that conclusion from the onset.
Buhari's detractors also know this much, which is why they appear to be hedging their bets on a technicality - that fact that he said one thing, and the policitised army said another.
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:54pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


Matter don tie wrapper!

Glad you now recognise how redundant your earlier arguments were.
You are most welcome. wink
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:53pm On Mar 25, 2015
bdidi:


U mentioned standardization, what has standardization got to do with filling correction information in a form?

If ur Mohammed in one of ur document nagates mohammadu in another of ur document, would you say its standardization as u put it? In documentation, it means both document belongs to different people. Except u swear an affidavit stating the right name that will then make the other valid.

Why is it that if u fill a form and you have an error you counter sign on that error? Is it not to make the document or form valid

There are rules in simple documentation.

Anyway the suit is why did buhari not submit his credentials along with the form he filled

Why did he say his credentials were with the military when he knew that it can be gotten like he has claimed already.

Why did he fill in the form that he is a civil servant?


You know the truth but you are just been sentimental my opinion though no harm intended

This circuitous debate is beginning to bore me. The sworn affidavit is for his missing certificate not a certifying statement of results. Are you reading my posts at all? Or is that you are incapable of following a logical sequence of arguments?
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:44pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


Thank you. But what's the known known sir?

We've got a certifying statement of results credited to the Cambridge exam board. Capisce?
If you fault its veracity, sue Katsina College!

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Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:41pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


The Cambridge knew the situation on ground. It acted with wisdom. The only way to show you have something is to PRESENT it. Period.

I wrote and passed my WASC back in 2001, and for any reason there's some doubt about it, I simply ask WAEC to publish my result; won't go to my secondary school. This is an unnecessary battle!

Did you read the screen shot I attached earlier?
I speak from a position of authority on this subject, having worked for examination boards in England, Comrade.

To quote Donald Rumsfeld: Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.

In this case, we are dealing with a known known wink
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:32pm On Mar 25, 2015
luvmijeje:


The question is moot as far as he sworn to an affidavit on stolen certificate and not statement of result.



Are we talking of the same military that has been bastardized and politicise? A military that was used to rig an election?



He said his copy of certificate was with the military.


The onus is on you guys to disprove the fact by finding the the suppose Muhammadu.

.

As I said the burden of proof is on you guys to take the school and not Buhari to Court. The school has come in his defense. His classmates has come out in his defense. The ball is now in your court.



It's indeed an interesting case but it lacks substance.

They won't get all you've written here.
Their hue and cry is reminiscent of the mind-atrophy many Truthists succumbed to, over Obama's birth certificate.
Senses simply took flight!
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:27pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:
The argument is clear and straightforward: BUHARI DOESN'T NOT HAVE THE SAI CERTIFICATE. Period.

All the points you raised are relevant and carried.

But for our weaker institutions, GMB would have been disqualified since last year, and possibly facing charges of perjury.

It's so depressing the average broom waver lacks the ability to dispassionately see the matter the way it is, and ask their boss to present his certificate. Of course, you can't present what you don't have.

Cambridge said only GMB could apply to it for his spurious certificate, and yet, like you rightly said, the old man was in London. He never thought it wise to bury this matter once and for all my taking a TAXI to the school aand secure his certificate.

He knew that due to the fear pple have about his kinsfolk going on a killing spree if he's disqualified, he never bothered. We never mattered to him!

All I see is the rule of law changed to the rule of fear.

Has Cambridge refuted the claims made by Katsina College - its affiliate in Nigeria?
Are you unaware that the results that supposedly originate from that institution, are all over the web?

Do you see why I always question the intellectual sagacity of TANoids?

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Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:21pm On Mar 25, 2015
k9ine:
@ TheOtherview
myself TANoid? No pls, you got it excellently wrong.

In that case, I stand corrected. Please accept my apology.
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:17pm On Mar 25, 2015
jdilight:


You see what I just said just manifested. Are you to tell me what I said was irony or am I the person to say that. A lot of thoughtless people in Nigeria.

You think we dey the same league?
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:15pm On Mar 25, 2015
fitzmayowa:
Thought provoking article, APC didn't handle this certificate issue well, allowing this issue become something huge...IMO

There is absolutely nothing thought provoking about the conjectural musings up there.
It is not every bit of tittle-tattle that one has to respond to.

If anything the APC has actually gained much from the publicity generated from this sordid affair, since the ruling party elected to sail up the creek without a paddle. While they've huffed and puffed from day one, making idioootic statements like the one depicted below, Jonathan's handlers have only ended up with egg on the face at each and every turn.

Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:00pm On Mar 25, 2015
jdilight:


Only few Nigerians has good brain like yours.

grin grin grin

Irony.
Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 12:52pm On Mar 25, 2015
bdidi:


The case against buhari is a 10 faceted case. The issue of buhari having a statement of result or certificate is part of it.

The issue is why did buhari not submit his certificate along with the form he submitted. Why swear an affidavit when he knew he could have gotten this same statement of result he presented
?

Why did he not do a due diligence with the military with regards to the reason for the affidavit before submitting his form?

Why did he assume his certificate is with the military?

Now looking at the supposed statement of result, it is glaring that there were some discrepancies-- In documentation, is Mohammadu the same with mohammed? Let's be sincere. We know him as mohammadu and I am sure all other documents he has is written mohamadu. Don't go telling me that mohamadu is the same with mohamed. That could be accepted from the face value but also that can be debated too!

When you are filling an information( personal info or otherwise) it behooves on you to fill the correct thing with regards to the evidences you have that can be verifiable and also behooves on you that you don't put false info that will negate ur integrity.

Its an interesting case no doubt! But I believe the rule of law will always prevail

Buhari never bothered asking for a statement of result. This effort was largely down to an interested third party (I will see if I can find a reference).

Is Adeshola the same name as Adesola? Is an Orisha the same as Orisa? Is the Ibo language the same as Igbo?
Ever heard of standardization?

Now answer this: has the Cambridge examination board repudiated the results attributed to it?
Recall that it was quick off the mark to issue two press releases, to put FFK and the TAN movement out of their misery on other matters.
Would it not have made sense to restrain Katsina college from peddling false results also? Think man!

EXCLUSIVE: Katsina College releases Buhari’s ​WASC results

Government College, formerly Provincial Secondary School, Katsina, which Muhammadu Buhari, the All Progressives Congress, APC, presidential candidate, graduated from in 1961, has released Mr. Buhari’s secondary school certificate examination results.

The results, obtained exclusively by PREMIUM TIMES Wednesday, confirm Mr. Buhari’s claim that he undertook the University of Cambridge West African School Certificate Examinations and obtained five credits in English Language, Geography, Hausa Language, History, and Health Science.

PREMIUM TIMES obtained the computer printout from Cambridge University as well as a statement of result, signed by the current principal of Katsina College, dated January 21, 2015.

The results show that Mr. Buhari, a former military head of state, failed in Mathematics and Woodwork, and had a pass in Literature in English.
The examination centre number was 8280, while Mr. Buhari’s candidate number was 002.

The statement of results is printed on the letter head paper of the Katsina State Ministry of Education, and it shows that the examination took place in 1961.

The Cambridge print out also shows the result of 17 other candidates at the centre, including Shehu Yar’Adua, a former Chief of Staff, Supreme Headquarters.

Source: [url]http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/175384-breaking-katsina-college-releases-buharis-%E2%80%8Bwasc-results.html[/url]

Continue clutching at straws grin

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Politics / Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 12:04pm On Mar 25, 2015
k9ine:

1. A man submits an application form to INEC, and does not attach supporting docs IRO his academic certifications and deposes to an affidavit that the Secretary of the Army Board is in possession of them. – Who among you does your current/former employer keep their certificates?

Read the excerpt provided below...

On Buhari’s educational qualification, he said: “Buhari’s principal was my principal. From their school, the principal, Mr. West was sent to our school.

“In those days when Nigeria was Nigerianising its military, many of the officers that you see today did not even have their school certificates until long after.

“When we were invited to go to Kaduna, we were given qualifying examination in English, Mathematics and General Knowledge, even before we took the school certificate exam. Some did not even wait to take their school certificates because vacancies were already waiting for them.

“It was after that qualifying exam that we were recruited into the army. By the time some had their school certificates, they had become officers.

“For example, Gen. Babangida never saw his school certificate until when he was head of state. I got my school certificate long after I became an officer.


“But there was officer cadet qualifying examination. About 240 of us sat for that exam in Kaduna”.

Source: http://thenationonlineng.net/new/buhari-ordered-dismiss-48-errant-cadets-nda-32-muslims-gen-paul-tarfa/


2. Sometime in the heat of the controversy generated, the APC tells Nigerians that the regime of Gen. Babangida looted Gen. Buhari’s documents when he (GMB) was overthrown. He and the APC visited IBB at his Hilltop residence and couldn’t smooth talk him into releasing his documents? By this the ruling party will be put to shame.

^^^Puerile arguments that are not worthy of a response.


3. Furthermore, when the Army said it did not have a copy of Buhari’s WASC, but a recommendation letter from Buhari’s principal, the General says he thought all this while the Army Board had them. Immediately, the APC says certificate of no certificate is not the issue and that the Peoples’ Democratic Party (PDP) was scared he was going to defeat their candidate Dr Goodluck Jonathan at the polls, and even recommended that the PDP should go to the court.

Disapprove the following and shame the devil..

It’s absurd to say Buhari has no certificate – Gen. Tarfa

Published on Saturday, 14 February 2015

An elder statesman and former Commandant of the Nigerian Defence Academy (NDA) retired General Paul C. Tarfa said yesterday that it is insulting for anybody to say the All Progressives Congress (APC) presidential candidate retired General Muhammadu Buhari has no school-leaving certificates. He explained that apart from their school certificates, as military cadets in the 1960s, they were made to sit for other examinations before joining.

Reacting to the Military Secretary’s claims that it didn’t have Buhari’s records, General Tarfa said “It is very stupid to say that.

Buhari and I went to the United Kingdom for training. We joined the military at 18, 19 years of age. When someone went through all the trainings abroad and passed through all the military examinations in all cadres and so on, and just one cranky idiot will say you don’t have school certificate. That is absurd.” He explained that “Buhari’s principal was my principal. From their school, their principal Mr. West was sent to our school.”

General Tarfa spoke to Weekly Trust during a meeting of some Christian leaders, under the auspices of Northern Christian Leaders Eagle-Eye Forum with Buhari, held at the International Conference Centre, Abuja.

Source: http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/weekly/index.php/new-news/19039-it-s-absurd-to-say-buhari-has-no-certificate-gen-tarfa


4. The General happened to be in the UK for two weeks, during this period and made a presentation at the Chatmam House, The Royal Institute of International Affairs. One wonders why he didn’t go to Cambridge during this period and collect his 1961 WASC, this would have dealt a heavy hammer blow to the PDP and increased his chances at the polls.

Who told you it is possible to get a certificate for an examination held more than 50 years ago, in 2015, TANoid @k9ine?

When are you untutored clowns going to understand that things worked a little differently in the 1960s? Or that 'University of Cambridge Local Examinations Syndicate' (UCLES) no longer exists in its original form.

For one; all enquiries relating to certificates of exams held that far back, must now go to 'Oxford, Cambridge and RSA Exams' (OCR) - a new examination board

Oxford, Cambridge and RSA Exams (OCR)
Contact OCR if your old exam board was one of the following:

East Midland Regional Examinations Board (EMREB)
Midland Examining Group (MEG)
Oxford and Cambridge Examinations and Assessment Council (OCEAC)
Oxford and Cambridge Schools Examination Board (OCSEB)
Royal Society of Arts (RSA)
Southern Regional Examinations Board (SREB)
Southern Universities Joint Board for Schools Examinations (SUJB)
University of Cambridge Local Examinations Syndicate (UCLES)
University of Oxford Delegacy of Local Examinations (UODLE)
West Midlands Examinations Board (WMEB)
If your exam board was the East Anglian Examinations Board (EAEB), contact either Pearson Edexcel or OCR - they both hold some of the records.
Source: Get a replacement exam certificate -- https://www.gov.uk/replacement-exam-certificate/if-your-old-exam-board-no-longer-exists

And two; OCR would only provide a 'certifying statement of results' - the equivalent of the same document already provided by Katsina college - and not an original CERTIFICATE.

*** Refer to screen shot attached, for further information.

5. I wonder why the APC should say that "anyone who will disqualify a presidential candidate on the eve of an election can only have one and only one purpose for that: to trigger chaos and pandemonium across the country”… "This is why we are hoping that good reason will prevail and nothing will be done, deliberately, to plunge Nigeria into crisis… Why would there be chaos, is GMB bigger than Nigeria, he had all the time in the world to present his certificate(s), but didn’t, now they threaten us? If a man is not qualified he is not qualified QED. Why bend the rules for one man, is he different from other contestants? The PDP has gone to court (as advised by the APC) and now they threaten everyone - funny indeed. I pray that the rule of law is upheld and that justice is done.

APC issued a warning, simple.
If you look around you, you will find that no upstanding Nigerian of repute has ever repudiated Buhari's claim of fulfilling the qualifying the criteria; which is nothing more than a secondary school certificate. That a section of the political class led by the likes of FFK and the TAN movement have decided to milk the issue of a sworn affidavit for all its worth, is the greatest testimony that Jonathan's administration is bereft of ideas! I say this because anyone with an ounce of sense knows fully well that this was the same tactic employed by the so-called truthists (Tea-Party) movement in the United States, on account of Obama's birth certificate.

It is up to you to show that you are capable of rising above sentiments, by providing more germane arguments rather than the asinine logic you have rehashed here.

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Politics / Re: Jonathan’s Siege On South-west Fuel His Downfall In The Region-muse by TheOtherview: 10:46am On Mar 25, 2015
Ngwakwe:


The truth is that he knew there are millions who wouldn't vote for him in the Southwest no matter what he does or not, that notwithstanding, there are greater majority who wanted to hear him out before making their final decision for which I believe he did well reaching them to avoid being accused of neglecting the most sophisticated region.

President Jonathan was in the Southwest to mend fences, build bridges and negotiate across borders.

Bridges have already been burnt Comrade.
It is a case of locking the stable door long after horsey has hit the road to freedom.

I actually don't blame you or other TANoids for spinning his belated entreaties along predictable lines. It is to be expected.
After all, it is he who defecates in public who forgets; not the man saddled with the responsibility of cleaning up the mess.
Politics / APC Sues Ekiti Government; They Want A Retraction, An Impeachment And N50billion by TheOtherview: 10:03am On Mar 25, 2015
The APC has sued the Ekiti government; they want a retraction, an impeachment and N50billion

March 25, 2015

The Legal Directorate of the All Progressives Congress (APC) presidential campaign council has made good the threat by the party and has now sued the Ekiti State Government before a Federal High Court in Abuja over advertisements by the state Governor, Ayodele Fayose, alluding that APC presidential candidate, Muhammadu Buhari, will die in office.

The APC, through its legal team led by Professor Akinseye George (SAN), is asking the court to compel the Speaker of the Ekiti State House of Assembly to immediately commence impeachment proceedings against Fayose for alleged public misconduct unbecoming of a state governor.

According to reports:

The plaintiffs are also asking the court for a declaration that the publications by Fayose acting as the Coordinator of the Goodluck/Sambo presidential campaign organisation of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) cited as the 22nd defendant in the suit in several national newspapers using the statutory funds of the state government constituted a breach of Section 95(1) of the Electoral Act, 2010 as amended and were meant to confer undue advantage on the 22nd defendant, PDP presidential candidate, contrary to Sections 102 and 126(c) of the Electoral Act 2010 as amended, Sections 34(1)(a), 35,36 and 37 of the 1999 Constitution as amended.

Other relief being sought by the plaintiffs are: A declaration that the contents of the publications referred to in relief 1 above and all other similar utterances by Fayose amounted to gross misconduct under the law.

• An order pursuant to sections 95(7)(a) and (b) and 8 of the Electoral Act,2010(as amended) directing the defendants to pay the sum of N1 million and the 22nd defendant to pay the sum of N2 million daily from January 20 until the cessation of the breaches of the Electoral Act complained of herein. Alternatively an order directing the 23rd defendant, the Inspector General of Police (IG) to investigate Fayose pursuant to Section 95 of the Electoral Act 2010(as amended).

• An exemplary and aggravated damages of N50 billion for malicious falsehood contained in the several advertorials and publications which said sum will be used to enhance the course of ethical and responsible journalism.

The plaintiffs through their counsel, James Ocholi (SAN), who is leading three other Senior Advocates of NIGERIA are further asking for a retraction of all the offensive publications complained to be published 10 times on the front pages of major international magazines, television and local newspapers with prominent headlines.

In their statement of claim, the plaintiffs, averred that the defendants were sued as being vicariously liable for the gross misconduct and errant behaviors of Fayose, who is also the Coordinator of the South-west branch of the Dr. Goodluck Jonathan/Sambo presidential campaign organisation with a religious background in white garments church, claimed to be an evangelist at a point, and one of his aides prior to the offensive publications complained of, had forged a medical certificate continuing falsehood on the state of health of Buhari, the presidential candidate of the APC.

The statement also read: “Fayose, whose agents slapped the Chief Judge of Ekiti State and desecrated the judiciary before his election, listed three former Heads of State all from the North-west geographical area of Nigeria, who died in office as Presidents or Heads of State of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, the said publications are pleaded and shall be found useful at the hearing of the suit.

Cited in the suit as the 1st to 23rd defendants are Idowu Adelusi, the Chief Press Secretary to Fayose, the Government of Ekiti State, the Attorney-General of Ekiti State, the Speaker of Ekiti State House of Assembly, the State’s House of Assembly, Ado Ekiti Local Government, the Chairman Aiyekire Local Government Area, the Chairmen and the following local governments in the state, Ekiti East, Ekiti South, Ekiti West, Emure, Ido Osi, Ijero, Ikere, Ikole, Ilejemeji, Irepodun, Ise/Orun, Moba, Oye.

Other defendants are PDP and the IG.

No date has been fixed for the hearing of the suit.

Source
Politics / Re: Can APC Substitute Buhari If He Is Finally Disqualified? by TheOtherview: 11:07pm On Mar 24, 2015
Gbawe:


Bruv, the guy is a monumental failure and a hideous racist. I have known him for many years on different Nigerian blogging forums. He always ends up discredited because he is a liar and failure motivated mainly by hatred of white folks. The clue, on this occasion, to how fake Rossike is lies in how he can label Buhari an illiterate when I personally know that this illegal immigrant failure has lived in the UK long enough (more than 10 years) to know that progressive societies are not certificate-rigid.

A master of Industry or even Prime Minister could have only GCSE as their only formal qualification whereas many with masters degree could be working for them and severel level under them. Productive knowlegde, i.e that which enhances society, is not attached rigidly to what a certificate states. This is why our "PHD" President sounds so unintelligent yet John Major , former UK Prime Minister educated to GCSE level, would wipe the floor with GEJ any time and any day. Nigerians in the diaspora have different standards. It is not arrogance. It is reality. If Rossike is not a big failure then he would be part of those who are seeking better for Nigerians because they know and have experienced better. Instead the racist fool is talking of things he knows are inconsequential in progressive nations. He is promoting idiocy that impedes the progress of Nigeria. I can only conclude he has failed so badly in the diaspora to the extent he is only able to support losers like himself.

Oh, I know Rossike's antecedents very well grin
Not surprisingly, like the so many other untutored TANoids with a parochial outlook, he has continued to rehash retaaardded musings about an 'uneducated general' ad infinitum. With this lot, no amount of credible evidence matters. Like strays dogs that have gone unfed for longer than is bearable, the mere sight of a bone is enough to cause their senses to take flight.

What really gores me is the extent to which these unconscionable social commentators have polluted our intellectual space.
Without a care about the inimical standards for public discourse that are being set, and with little or no understanding of the larger consequences such a development portends, you have grown men like Rossike peddling hate non-stop. Devoid of any sense of irony, he would of course be back in a few weeks from now, fully decked in the glad rags of Mobutu-style black nationalism, showcasing some edifice in Luanda or Kinshasa, as he evangelises faux Pan-Africanism. grin

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