₦airaland Forum

TMKsouth:
We did kwaito first . We did House first . We did Gqom first . We doing amapiano first . Meanwhile, afrobeats is a West African sound not uniquely Nigerian, whereas all SA genres originate in SA. Even in SA afrobeats didn't take over like it did in the rest of Africa coz House and Gqom were holding the fort.

The only Master KG song I know is Jerusalema - like I said, I rarely listen to that music unless I'm in the club.

Right now I have these songs on repeat:

Western
1. Arcade by Duncan Laurence
2. Black Eyed Peas, Shakira - Girl Like Me
3. Good Things Fall Apart by Illenium
4. Call Me By Your Name by Lil Nas X
5. Willow by Taylor Swift

African (I'm listening to classics since electronic music has now taken over)
1. Anything Zahara, Nathi, Vusi Nova
2. Sho Madjozi, Majozi, Jozi (all different artists)

Nigerian songs on my phone playlist:
1. Nwa Baby by Flavour
2. Particula by Major Lazer

Try them all out at some point.

afrobeats originated in Lagos Nigeria
anybody else is just a copycat

even if you don't like amapiano
you should try to support it

I'll try the non Nigerian songs
the flavour song is not my thing,
particular is
nasty c and jidenna is a nice combo

if you don't like electronic
you might like àṣà and aramide

TMKsouth:
Listen, there are other things I like from Nigeria but afrobeats is not one of them. You'll just have to respect my freedom of choice - it's a human right.

I'm not against that

I'm just really pissed by your way of screaming "autotune" like an anthem

TMKsouth:
I'm just being honest.

honest but wrong very wrong
you're trying to use autotune to discredit years of dedication and hardwork
listen to what if I say by fireboy
autotune my dirty left foot
good bye!

1326six:
[s][/s]

you will still cancel your destiny

TMKsouth:
Dude, I'm not even into amapiano (can't even name one artist in SA) but some of the songs are catchy, I must admit. I salute our boys and gals for coming up with a unique sound anyway and not copying afrobeats like the rest of Africa following Nigeria like sheep - that's how we roll in SA... trendsetting Anyway, i listen to western and afro pop most of the time but i'll check out Southy Love just now.

other African countries have nice genres too
Congo Cameroon etc


I really love master KG

trendsetting??
how many trends have you set?

give me your favourite western and afropop songs
I can deduce what kinda person you're

TMKsouth:
Not bad hearing it for the first time - very catchy beat at times but not iconic. It's got that one afrobeats element I hate the most though... AUTOTUNE . How do u guys cope at concerts when your artists have to use their real voices ? I get a sense they don't have good voices and they use autotune to mask that. Plus i was expecting effortless SA type dancing.

Anyway, I guess it's much nicer in Naija where u understand the words and undertones.

chai
then you don't like afro songs

autotune is used everywhere
stop fooling yourself
Im beginning to think you're obsessed with autotune
like how exactly was autotune used on that song?

go and listen to live versions of those artistes
autotune or not
music is music
and we will take over the universe
listen to essence by Wizkid ft tems ft Justin Bieber
was autotune used?

you dey make me vex sef

TMKsouth:
Yeah I get that part, it's similar in SA. There are also a lot of unemployed graduates in SA as well. The government argues they studied stuff the economy doesn't need. But recently they flew in Cuban doctors to come fight Covid in the rural areas even though we have hundreds of unemployed doctors. So, when South Africans cry that foreigners are taking their jobs there's some truth to that (it's not simply xenophobia), and the government has a hand in it coz this replicates itself throughout the entire system.

yeah true
but Cuban doctors are expected to be very competent
Cuba has the best medical sector in the world
and off course
the Ciggar

saintruky:
How u take dey learn d Southy language? Via app?

n southy e be so en no use any app

TMKsouth:
Oh, I sent the wrong one?! I don't listen to afrobeats though - it doesn't appeal to me (nothing personal).

I was just pulling your leg with the bad English thing - why u crying now?

Whoa, didn't know French is compulsory in Nigerian schools . Are u for real - in all public schools throughout the country?

I get what Yoruba is now - it's like the Nguni and Sotho language groups in SA.

Sotho = Sepedi (Northern Sotho), Tswana, Sotho (Southern Sotho)

Nguni = Zulu, Xhosa, Ndebele, Swati

it's actually not afrobeats
it's a type of amapiano
we also make nice amapiano
check out southy love by fireboy and peruzzi(yeah you guessed right, it's about a south African girl)
check out KPK by mohbad
and as usual
the Nigerian amapiano singer niniola

many people have made fun of my typing style
maybe that's why I'm on a defensive

not really
'cause unlike there
we all speak Yoruba
but different types
just like American and British English are different

TMKsouth:
Substantiate.

Aren't u guys also boasting about how SA would fall apart without you ? And now I'm agreeing we poach your professionals and you're disagreeing - changing your tune.

I guess your aim is just to win the arguement even if the truth becomes the casualty.

I don't care
they making the money and sending back

Nigerian remittance is one of the highest in the world
the money matters
there are a lot of MSc graduates with no jobs

TMKsouth:
1. Whoa , Yoruba is that complex? I hear on YouTube most of u guys in Nigeria can't speak your mother tongues fluently. Is it true? Nigerian YouTubers in SA are often amazed South Africans speak African languages 100% of the time.

4. I did french fir a semester actually, but it was basic stuff and have forgotten most of it. Like what is one gonna do with French in Southern Africa, makes sense for u over there sandwiched by black France

5. Actually, i'd give u 4/10 for English

If Yoruba is spoken in Benin and Togo does that mean Nigerian Yorubas are concentrated in the West of the country?

As for Burnas Mozambique trip, I have no idea what Yaba Buluku means (haven't heard it either). Moz also has dozens of its own languages, I'm familiar with Tsonga. But I googled the song and here are the English translations.

https://afrikalyrics.com/dj-tarico-yaba-buluku-translation

yeah
it's really complex
you see
Yoruba is just like a blanket term for about 22 sub ethnic groups that are related
so we all have our dialects and use the central standard Yoruba as a lingua franca

that's false
we speak out languages amongst ourselves
you see, since there are so many languages
we use the pidgin for everyday lives instead
but we still speak our languages
pidgin is a unity language

probably those YouTubers are "Omo butty"
posh people that their parents were all about the ₦$

French is taught here and is cumpulsory till high school(senior secondary)
I didn't listen in class though
I felt it was a waste of time

my English is actually very very good
I was one of the best in my class
I read two dictionaries in my middle school time
I studied English till it started affecting my Yoruba
besides it's a foreign language
I read and understood Wole Ṣoyinka's verbose vocabulary books as little as 10
so
I don't care
the reason you think my English is bad is because I argue a lot
and I don't really like typing
that's why I barely punctuate
and I write sentence by sentence
I'm used to it
it's one of the characteristics you use to know that I am the authentic thetranslator

yeah
we are in the west of Nigeria

thanks though
actually that's the real song
I'm talking of the one with Burna

Zooposki:
Mumu. People like you are easily deceived.

who should we believe? scientist and researchers or racist bigoted nairalanders?

kayfra

Wuoche:
Lamu ni tamu. Translated as "Lamu is sweet " in English.

is this an hotel or what?

TMKsouth:
Nigerian skills for one. Academics all over Africa wanna work in SA universities which are the best in the continent and pay salaries on time, doctors, teachers, engineers, the Ngozi Iwela Okonjos of this world, etc.

We even poach as far away as India.

trash

TMKsouth:
It's no biggie, most black South Africans can hold a decent conversation in atleast 6 languages excluding English coz many are related (like Spanish and Portuguese are).

So I can go to:
1. Namibia and speak Afrikaans (5 out of 10)
2. Botswana - Tswana (8/10)
3. Zimbabwe - Ndebele (5/10)
4. Mozambique - Tsonga (3/10)
5. Swaziland - Swati (5/10)
6. Lesotho - Sotho (9/10)

And the rest are South African (Sepedi, Zulu, Xhosa). Tsonga and Venda are pretty tricky - thats why I said I can speak 9 out of our 11 languages, I was excluding them.

How bout you - apart from Yoruba and English?

1.Yoruba the language of my ancestors (6/10) it's really complex and has many dialects I wanna learn about 15 dialects actually
2.Pidgin (9/10) of course
3.Spanish(3/10)
4.French (3/10)
5.English(8/10)
so I can go through west Africa
Yoruba is spoken in Togo, Benin
pidgin is spoken all over west Africa
pidgin is all i need

it's very easy to learn most European languages if you understand English
they are basically the same

Burna boy sang in Mozambique recently
Yaba buluku
can you translate?

TMKsouth:
We emigrate for completely legit reasons and not to hustle and become a nuisance. And crossing the Mediterranean via Libya or riding crocodiles over the Limpopo river into SA is not exactly emigration, it's refugeeing.

And in case u didn't know, the UK is a major poacher of SA skills - and in return we poach African skills. Levels u see Who's Nigeria poaching from?

that's trash
we don't "refugeer" or whatever you say
we add to any society we go to

you poach African skills?
Wetin you smoke?

HornyTave:
Nope, I'm not... My tribe and the binis drag everything. lol. I'm Ishan

isn't it "Esan"

if you're esan why fighting for Bini?

TMKsouth:
It's freely available on something called Google . Just search for Top20 universities in Africa and page upon page will confirm SA occupies over half of that list.

because the SEO brought it up first doesn't mean it's credible
bloody blog

TMKsouth:
LMAO I already speak 9 languages dude, u wanna make it 10 now?

I'll call on your services when I move to West Africa.

9 languages?
that's crazy
are you fluent in all?

mariahAngel:
I thought South Africa was a thriving country...

How come the citizens are japaing?
What’s their excuse?

me sef shock

I thought you said south Africans don't emigrate? tmksouth ?

TMKsouth:
The Top 20 is a bloodbath

where the fvck do you get this your stat from?

mdntiri:
You know the number of Nigerians on Ghanaweb?

I dont care go there Ghanaweb is just a news blog

kmcutez:
There were only 1500 itshekiri out of 30,000 inhabitants of warri?

that's not my business
come with proof
not speculations

Ariani:
Don't be silly.
You can see Western Ijaw, Urhobo were separated from Warri(Itsekiri) there.
It doesn't mean they are not Yorubas, but the truth is that they voted in majority to leave Western region.
It is what it is.

stop decieving yourself
urhobo and Ijaw were in Warri
they were also in other parts of Delta

this one don smoke

Ariani:
You are a bloody liar.
Itsekiris voted in vast majority to leave the Midwest. See result of the Midwest referendum here.
Itsekiris are Warri province.

stop saying what you don't know
Warri consists of three groups
Itsekiri
Ijaw and urhobo

Itsekiri voted to stay in the west

HornyTave:
but you're grabbing Itshekiri. lol.

Okpameri is from Bini.


I lived in Ibilo for years, Shey you see from Isua in Ondo to Ibilo, to makeke, to ipkeshi to ojirame, imoga, I know there

because they grabbed us first
are you Bini?

kmcutez:
Suspect me how?

what's your ethnicity?