₦airaland Forum

TMKsouth:
Coz we have lovely voices and good taste in music.

Check this attachment where Nigerians themselves admit Davido sounds terrible without autotune, Nigeria's saving grace

give me a link to that webpage

IronGalaxy:
The one I remember the name of was "Citation"

never heard of that

IronGalaxy:
Lol, collaborations of diverse musicians is a staple diet of music industries all over.
To me Nigerian music sounds like this in a nutshell

give me a song where 5 diverse artistes featured on

it will be worse than that

TMKsouth:
Coz we have lovely voices and good taste in music.

Check this attachment where Nigerians themselves admit Davido sounds terrible without autotune, Nigeria's saving grace

nonesense
those are Burna boy's fans
they mock Davido for his voice

we still love him
he has a unique voice

stop decieving yourselves with the "we have lovely voices" mantra
I listen to a lot of SA songs

IronGalaxy:
I've seen recent ones on Netflix. Still shit

most I seen on Netflix are also shit

I'm talking of real Nollywood
not Netflix funded trash

which ones you seen?

IronGalaxy:
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that is a poorly produced song
besides it isn't easy to put more than 4 diverse musicians on a track like that

TMKsouth:
LMAO

Afrobeats is like Nollywood with the excessive use of sound effects. He's still in denial that they're going overboard with the A-word.

it was old Nollywood that makes excessive use of sound effects

we've stopped that

we make nicer movies now

IronGalaxy:
You nitpick one track with no autotune to make your point? how convenient

that's fireboy DML

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92St1TBJL2E

this is also fireboy DML that your autotune brother tmk said is autotuned

TMKsouth:
But, it's true.

nah it's not
why is it that only SA shouts "autotune?

TMKsouth:
It's obvious coz we rarely use it (remember I told u we have fabulous voices ). Whereas u guys use it all the damn time that u don't even notice it anymore, you think it's natural. It's highly annoying down here.

And no he didn't learn it from me - it's a common criticism here in SA and its very sincere.

check out my previous post

IronGalaxy:
Nope I'm my own man with own opinions. TMK is most definitely spot on, the autotune is too excessive in your music, even the yelling! Jesus Christ your musicians can yell hey! took a leaf from your actors' books

you can easily tell when the voice is electronic

yeah
we yell that's Nigerian


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YgTEm_-i4U
was your lovely autotune used in this?


check out this autotune video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS7oKIzgYLk

TMKsouth:
Oooooh dang - he's gonna blow a fuse. You mentioned the A-word! U vexing him for sho now!

it's really pathetic


your obsession with "autotune

IronGalaxy:
Since you claimed you don't know these people so how do you know who won ding what kind of music?

i simply read the genres of the link tmksouth sent
seeing pop rnb etc

IronGalaxy:
Lol, The ones I've heard. The excessive Autuotune alone puts me off

I need an example

you've caught on the tmksouth obsession with "autotune

how do you south Africans know when autotune is used?

have you listened to the musicians live?

TMKsouth:
@bolded -

Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Soweto Gospel Choir and Miriam Makeba (pata pata) are not singing South African music?

Wow, on the other hand, Sade and Seal's music (and Mr American band drummer) is Nigerian in nature

Ok dude, have u been sipping on palm wine throughout this entire debate coz you're beginning to become dizzy? But I understand the heat is on from the mighty SA army (uMkhonto weSizwe - the MK).

So the MK will give u a break till tomorrow.

I said "most of the wins

read well

Sade's music is Nigerian

seal maybe not

the drummer drums Yoruba drums

IronGalaxy:
Ladysmith Black Mambazo won all those Grammys doing traditional Zulu music called "isicathamiya" so here we go!

I said most of the Grammy wins

Ladysmith Black is not most

IronGalaxy:
Someone like Asa is a good musician, Niniola too, others just sound too samey and Afrobeat production is repetitive as well, which can get boring fast.
Nasty C is dope but you Nigerian guys overrate him. The are plenty of doper rappers in SA. checkout this rapper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28hl1Ug88yI

answer please

which popular afrobeats song is low quality?

IronGalaxy:
ah come on, are you telling me some scrawny football-obsessed pale kid from Lancashire is the one filling Arenas when Pantoraking's perfoming? The same UK with such a high number of Nigerians? highly unlikely

likely

I seen some of them that love our music

besides other Africans too attend such concerts

IronGalaxy:
Ok, now you are just clutching at straws. taking chances

nah I'm not

respond accordingly to that post

IronGalaxy:
Look, language has nothing to do with quality. Music from Senegalese legend Youssour n Dour and Salif Keita's quality and I have no idea what they're saying.

Bad music does make numbers actually, especially nowadays...the likes of Lil pump, 2 Chainz, Young this,Lil that...these people rake in dollars

okay

can you tell me a popular Naija song that is of low quality?



those guys aren't Nigerian
lol
those guys can't rap without saying "nigga a thousand times

nasty c does far better than them

they have the market that's why they like that
black Americans love that music

I agree with you on this one

check out dababy's remix of essence
with a thousand "niggas


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGjOT_Rsw0I

IronGalaxy:
Dude, when your artists fill up the O2 Arena in the UK who do you think is filling that?

mostly non Nigerians
trust me
we don't really do concerts and stuff

TMKsouth:
One think I like most about SA is we don't have to leave our country to become great. All our Grammy's are won from right here in Africa whereas Nigerians have to travel outside and benefit from Western resources before they can make it big. I mean Sade, Seal, some saxophonist in Birmingham - do they really count as Nigerian wins? And some Nigerian drummer in an American band is also counted as a Grammy winner for Nigeria ? That's pulling at straws dude. Anyway, congratulations.

So since u playing dirty like that I'm gonna increase SA's Grammy count to 39 to include Americans and Brits of SA origin. There, boom, SA count moves from 9 to 39!

Nigerians travel a lot
our nigerianess never leaves us

most of the SA songs that won Grammys are not SA in nature

all Nigerian Grammys are Nigerian in nature

IronGalaxy:
Of course the market is there, there are Nigerians everywhere. it makes sense.
Zulus don't have to dream. Ladysmith Black Mambazo has more Grammys than all of your artists combined.

Nigerians arent that many to make such a feat

infact
most Nigerians (including me) don't like that song
its too foreign

IronGalaxy:
Of course the market is there, there are Nigerians everywhere. it makes sense.
Zulus don't have to dream. Ladysmith Black Mambazo has more Grammys than all of your artists combined.

it's a group
nine Grammys for all the artists in a group

TMKsouth:
You complain about a 14 year old movie and yet send me one thats 40 years old are u for real or a zombie as well?

The point of my video was to show how we began to make opera in the African context - and it worked, the world loved it! U said it's not possible.

okay
I'll see it

that video is Fela
not just anyone

IronGalaxy:
Yup it's successful when you're talking numbers, but quality is thin.

you don't understand pidgin

so I'll accept you think the quality is bad

music with no quality doesn't take up numbers - especially not music from Nigeria that things are really competitive

IronGalaxy:
Nigerian music that's not Afrobeat simply doesn't thrive, let's just not sugarcoat it. it's basically Afrobeat or nothing! it's exact;ly why your artists switch genres.
Niniola basically does South African style type of music hence her collaborations with SA producers
Your hip hop doesn't sound to different from your Afrobeats, you should probably get proper Hip hop producers.I understand Phyno's supposed to be a rapper but sounds Afrobeats too! All of them, Yemi,patoranking, etc

Nigerian music that isn't afrobeat thrive and do very well inside Nigeria
is tems an afrobeat singer?

is this tiwa savage song afrobeat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxDAgjaxDWI

Phyno sings in Igbo(that's why he sounds "afrobeats"
maybe because of the pidgin
pidgin makes most of our music "sound afrobeats"

niniola has been doing her music with no SA influence for a long time

TMKsouth:
Then why is it all that Nigerians talk about all day and all night - and to diss South Africans with? It's like u have nothing else going for u.

See how IronGalaxy and I have brought up a wide array of SA music selection, you guys rarely ever do that. It's afrobeats this, afrobeats that - so don't blame us, the same way u didn't know SA had 9 Grammy's and awesome DJs and opera singers is the same way we don't know anything about Nigeria other than afrobeats.

nonesense
it's because afrobeats is astronomically successful

Nigerian have also won 9 Grammys
only about 4 of them are related to afrobeats

https://www.legit.ng/1407443-9-nigerians-won-grammy-awards-5-nominations-names.html

TMKsouth:
Watch award-winning uCarmen eKhayelitsha at some point.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFEgd08b7SY

wtf is this? and why should I watch a 14 year old video?
check this out Fela the creator of afrobeats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj5x6pbJMyU

IronGalaxy:
Yup, and their music industry is exactly the same as their one commodity economy

whatever

afrobeats is what is pushing African music now

we recently got to no 14 on billboards top 200 with essence

something no Zulu has dreamt of

IronGalaxy:
Do you understand what an analogy is?

fvck off

TMKsouth:
I told u yesterday we created kwaito, Gqom, amapiano, etc etc. We're not shy to innovate. But when Opera enthusiasts come to SA they get to hear a different form of the genre - and we get awarded for it. It's part of our tourism nightlife - taking tourists to theatres to listen to African opera and orchestras.

Where do u take your tourists in Nigeria - to clubs to listen to afrobeats all night long ?

we don't have only afrobeats and you know that
stop behaving like a child