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onlyfacts:
You just spoke like you are still learning in school. It is not a fact, and I have opened your eyes to it. Facts that cant be proven, is that facts

i know your likes, you have poor scientific background. It’s no point engaging you.

You are scientifically illiterate.

onlyfacts:
You just spoke like you are still learning in school. It is not a fact, and I have opened your eyes to it. Facts that cant be proven, is that facts

All you type is unverifiable gibberish.

Evolution is fact and it actually works

onlyfacts:
Science is presented as trafficking in absolute truths. On the contrary, science is a framework for interpreting, systematizing, and predicting nature based on empirical observations that is "facts". That is to say, a well accepted ‘theory’ (framework for understanding/predicting nature) can always be upended with sufficiently compelling contrary evidence.

Perhaps the best known example of a debunked ‘theory’ among physics students is the aether, once thought to be the medium which light propagated through. This theory seemed logical in the late 1800s with the newly developed understanding that light was an electromagnetic wave and the prior knowledge that all other waves propagate through a medium. The aether was famously disproved by the Michelson–Morley experiment.

Another example that is a bit more obscure is in crystallography, where it was once thought that crystalline solids could only be composed of repeating blocks (unit cells) that could be used to tile all of space. This was upended with the discovery of Quasicrystals (1982; Nobel prize in chemistry 2011) by Dan Shechtman, a finding that had a very loud and famous detractor in Linus Pauling.

You’ve heard of our greatest scientific theories: the theory of evolution, the Big Bang theory, you’ve also heard of the concept of a proof, and the claims that certain pieces of evidence prove the validities of these theories. Fossils, genetic inheritance, and DNA prove the theory of evolution.

Except that’s a complete lie. While they provide some evidence for those theories, they aren’t proof. In fact, when it comes to those theories scientists can't seem to agree on a single path. Scientist don't agree on how the matter that formed and exploded in the big bang came about (that's even the easy part, up till now they haven't been able to prove through any mathematical model that explosion would cause "creation of life from nothing" and not "destruction" ), neither can evolutionist agree about how life first came on earth, how it survived the harsh environment of primitive earth and how it evolved into complex life forms (evolutionary theory is more of stories about how life came to be than any hard mathematical or fossil facts- always missing links in the chain of evolution).

Evolution is fact, there’s no medicine or biology without evolution. It won’t work, the evidences and applications are overwhelming.

No proof for any god

onlyfacts:
Going by your theory your belief in evolution will not hold. Scientists believe the universe came about by the BIG BANG THEORY.

When asked how those energy that created the universe where formed before the Big Bang, science doesn't have any conclusive answers. It simply believes those elements SOMEHOW where there leading to the Big Bang. PS: both Big Bang and evolution are both called THEORIES and not FACTS because it cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt. Still an element of FAITH is required to believe it happened that way!

Now to God existence without creation. I once had a discussion with a friend who wanted to know God's origin. He owns a pet dog. I asked him if his dog was intelligent, he said yes! I asked him if his dog could obey simple and some complex commands, he said yes! I asked him, if his son and his dog were trained from infancy in the same things, like they were both going to school who would come out tops? Who would graduate to become a lawyer, doctor, engineer etc? He said his son! I asked him why, he said because his son has higher reasoning capacity than a dog! And he was right!

Truth is no matter how smart an animal is, explaining complex things that humans can easily understand will be difficult for an animal to grasp. An animal can never grasp how to build an airplane or a computer program no matter how intelligent it is or how hard you try to explain it. Of cause they are intelligent in their own way but all animals have a limit to their intelligence even man!
To God we are like that dog or any other animal. Even if he tried to explain his origin we will never fully understand it, because human knowledge is limited by what he or she can experience( it is limited to the physical universe of which we still don't fully understand).

God is a higher being that transcends both the physical and spiritual universe, God doesn't need to explain in details His origin, instead He says in the Bible "He has no beginning and ending".

”Scientific” theories unlike any other theories are explanation of facts.

Atomic, cell and evolution theories are facts

Still the same stories without evidence

knowhowk:
I keep Repeating this .WHO or anyone is yet to Prove/ Show Clear Evidence people even at least one Person that Madagascar Covid Organics has Killed or affected Negatively after taking it ,They should present one person that is suffering from the side effect of The herbal drug .This world is full of Conspiracy .They don't really care for human lives .

Thats not how it works, it’s not WHO problem if Madagascar cannot prove beyond reasonable doubts that the organics work. The burden of proof is not on WHO, it’s on Madagascar.

knowhowk:
Which Evidence does WHO or you has that Madagascar Covid Organics is not saving lives or has not saved lives ?

No evidence, anybody can claim that anything saves lives until that person can be able to present a repeatable methodology that can be evaluated.

Dixonogbema1:
The due process will always be the best if there ha not been a continuous effort to discredit Africa. When can Africa do it's own due process? Are there no scientists in Africa? Why is it that until the west says it is ok then we accept it to be ok. There is more to this whole thing about this Covid-19 than is being said. There are few people in high places who had plotted to benefit from this virus, and will do everything possible to make sure that no other remedy will be acceptable. If Covid-19 is killing people and this Madagascar drink can cure, why not try it on covid patients, if it cure them then it is better than dying. Can anyone tell me which is better? Dying or having the side effects? Beside, is there any of the WHO approved Medication that does not have at least one side effect? Please let us free ourselves from this mental slavery and do things right to the best of our ability without continually running to the western world.

We all know that Africans have not done enough to gain the respect of the world hence its normal for one to be skeptical about any technology coming out of Africa.
There’s nothing like “African due process”, scribe is universal and African has to key in like how Asia and South America did.

Again, no one will take that drug serious if the evidences that it works are not overwhelming, it has nothing to with whether it’s African or not.

phoenix90:
You are proud dunce, sorry to say that. Have you heard of gene sequencing and mapping? Do you know the possibility of a gene causing malaria to be traced and sliced from plasmodium and then fused with the proteins of a virus RNA to enhance its potency? Being a biochemist does no justice to your ignorant soul. Btw why was this account created during this covid19 period? You think you can sway us by ur elementary understanding of genetics. Reply and let me teach you molecular biology

You have totally derailed from our discussion. Seems you have comprehension deficiency.

Again, you can’t genetically engineering a plasmodium and HN to get a sarcov 2, it’s impossible. It’s sounds cool in theory but not achieveable practically.

If that works the result won’t be a coronavirus with different spike proteins as an influenza virus (It’s common sense that if you get a gene from Infuenza then the translated protein has to be like that of influenza), gene structure (circular instead of linear) and the mode of entry host cells will be similar to that of Influenza virus.

See, because you have a crude knowledge of how science works doesn’t make you smart, the rubbish you posted up there makes sense to ignoramuses but doesn’t work in core practice.

Lol, you want to teach me molecular biology, ok bring it on. Let’s see how you will convince me that Coronavirus was genetically engineered from influenza without any form of similarities in their translated proteins. Let’s see what you have got.

[quote author=Uwillsucceed post=89743416][/quote]What you posted is not a scientific study.
Renowned scientific journals say it doesn’t work and we can’t accept it because we love trump.
HCQ doesn’t work for COVID19 with or without zinc hence FDA didn’t approve it.

Stop deceiving yourself

GamalNasser:
Well I know how clinical trials work but this is an emergency and the clinical observation is clear ..Keep waiting for clinical trials while Madagascar is saving lives ok

Emergency or no emergency, WHO cannot endorse a drug that has not be proven to be beneficial. It’s not a “try and see” situation.

There’s no evidence Madagascar is saving lives

phoenix90:
You shouldn’t resort to insults bro, plasmodium can actually be infected by a virus. A genetically engineered RNA virus can also be fused with potent symptoms capable of keeping the host weakened and introduced during a flu season to enhance propagation. Am not a scientist but my layman understanding of biology knows a thing or two about genetic engineering and gene cultures.
Take a peep... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31887217/

listen to yourself again.

So if plasmodium becomes infected by influenza it becomes sarscov 2. Dude that doesn’t make any sense in respect to the size of a plasmodium and a virus, it also doesn’t make sense in respect to the protein specificity and evolution of the influenza spike proteins.
I’m a Biochemist with interest in virology anyways. It’s okay if you ask how these things work before vehemently making a theory out of it.

rhames:
Another demarketing strategy by Bill Gates apologists and bootlickers. Why do Africans condemn their own and praise foreigners achieve ments?

We won’t condemn it if it passes all scientific standards of drug approval. Global drug approval is not done by emotions, it’s done by bending down to work and meeting all required standard as to how a drug carries out it’s therapeutic effect.

It’s not by playing emotional game

GamalNasser:
Even after having a 100 percent cure rate and zero death to all that took it? The only Madagascan that died didn't use COVID but another protocol

Thats not how clinical trials are done.
Start with animal trials, in-vitro then move to humans using standard experimental protocols that will allow us compare the results with other drugs and placebos.
Identify and isolate the active compound in the herb then present a mechanism of actions by which the therapeutic effect work.
Do toxicity test on both mice and humans to ascertain the exact dosage of the drug.

Document properly the side effects of the drug and be sure that we don’t treat COVID19 and then later cause any other ailment.

That’s how it works, no sane scientifically literate person or organization including WHO will take them serious if all these are not met.

This is not gbogbonise business

AuntRose:
The last two polls conducted scored Trump above average, meaning he had above 50% positive commendation. So relax!

That doesn’t matter....
Hilary Clinton almost won every time on online polls.
It doesn’t negate the fact that trump is a gaffer.
What do you say to this?

1. Using Unproven HCQ for Covid19
2. Intravenous injection of disinfectants and bombardment with UV-light to cure covid19
3. Last night, he clearly said that there’s nothing wrong if Pompeo (U.S Secretary General) uses federal staffs attached to him for house chores if his wife and children aren’t around (like telling your bodyguards and office workers to wash plates)

4. He came out as a racist last week on a Chinese born American journalist.

Trump never takes blame, he has plunged U.S to being the worst hit country for covid19 prevalence. Just wait for the next election, he will be beaten black/blue by anybody.

He’s not intelligent, he talks a lot and he has successfully relegated U.S to being second fiddle to China in the world. Dude is just a disaster

AuntRose:
That's what the Western media made you believe, those outfits are controlled by the Democrats who in normal circumstances would do anything to frame Trump. The man is doing his job perfectly well.

I’m not gullible. If there’s nothing I know, I’m very sure that Trump is a colossal failure.
Try following trump himself on twitter, if you are enlightened enough you will realize that trump is a dumbo.

Nobody takes that ma serious anymore with what comes out of his mouth. Every time he speaks, he gaffes.

phoenix90:
I’ve said it and argued till my veins become weak that this virus was engineered in the lab by fusing malarial and influenza causing organismic genetics. Why US and the EU were making progress with Hydroxychloroquine was that it is the only known anti malarial drugs available to them. Subsaharan Africa and Asian countries have since developed more potent drugs for malaria mostly from artemisinin and other derivatives. The other Axithromycin prescription was for the flu symptoms. We actually missed the opportunity of spitting in the face of these globalists and telling them we can handle this without shutting down our economy.

how can you fuse a eight stranded RNA influenza genome and a plasmodium to get a single stranded RNA coronavirus?

Are you sure you are ok like this?

ideabuilder:
As long as chloroquine works, any malaria medicine or concoction will work for covid19.

Chloroquine doesn’t work, please be guided that any malaria drug for plasmodium cannot work for a virus.

AuntRose:
So far the Madagascan authorities have been using it to treat it's patient and have recorded zero deaths not until few days back. It has been proven (tho not scientifically) to work on COVID-19 so you don't expect the WHO to easily certify it pharmaceutically okay. There's a lot going on in WHO today that even Trump lost the little regards he had for them. Whether it is for Malaria or COVID-19 doesn't matter, we just need it readily available in it's pure form without adulteration.

The world is losing regard for trump.
As a matter of fact, WHO is far more respected than trump who is scientifically illiterate. Go on twitter U.S trends and see how they make fun of him everyday.

GamalNasser:
Even though its active ingredient Artemisinin is a known reputable cure for Malaria it is a also a potent and capable anti virus and anticoagulant which is why it is able to stop COVID just like Chloroquine but unlike Chloroquine it is a low toxicity drug with little or no known side effect...Dont allow the Globalist Satanists mislead you that there is no cure to COVID because of their sinister plots ...Infact I just finished having a cup of Artmesia Annual tea before seeing this

There is no evidence that the herbal product can cure covid19. If you have any clinical trial please let’s see it

Not yet proven.
It has to go through standard clinical trials for it to be certified in regards to efficacy and safety.

That’s should be a female or unfledged hornbill bird.

orisa37:
CHINA KILLED DR. LI WENLIANG AND MULTILATED HIS BODY BEFORE BURNING HIM.

CHINA PLEDGED TO DESTROY WESTERN CIVILIZATION WHEREVER. THAT'S WHY CORONAVIRUS IS VERY SEVERE IN US, UK, EU AND WHEREVER WESTERN CIVILIZATION EXIST IN AFRICA

CHINA IS STILL PLAYING SATAN AND MOCKING ENDTIME EVENTS. IT HAS JUST LAUNCHED A SATELLITE INTO SPACE MAY BE TO RAIN MORE CORONAVIRUS FROM ITS SATELLITE ON HUMANS. CHINA PRODUCES BABIES LIKE RABBITS. ITS POPULATION NOW IS IN BILLIONS.
IT INTENDS TO OCCUPY ALL THOSE PLACES IT HAS WIPED OUT THEIR PEOPLE AND CIVILIZATION.

CHINA'S ALLIES ARE NORTH KOREA, IRAN AND ALL THOSE GOD FORSAKEN COUNTRIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND ASIA.

CHINA DOESN'T LIKE NIGERIA BUT WANTS TO USE MIYETTI ALLAH FULANIS TO GET NIGERIA AND AFRICA.

ok?

truthfulperson:
the chinese government has already eliminated everyone who has evidence that proves its origin from their lab , so keep your money.

really?
Where did you get this from?

Yes, you heard it, I will give 50k to anybody that’s can provide evidence that covid19 was made in a Chinese lab.

First of all, I will like us to defined what “evidence” is: the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.

Please note that if you must quote any scientist, you should be able to provide repeatable experiments carriedout by this scientist to justify your claim.

ncpat:
Don't worry he would when the time comes, atleast UK and USA have started human vaccine trials for the vaccine, who knows whether Bill's own is what they are even using? For you guy's to understand the side of Bill Gate go and watch the movie title CONTAGIOUS what will you now say? That movie was done in 2011 but was everything about the present Corona virus, and the vaccine came at last with chip in form of wrist band to indicate who has taken the vaccine. Do we now say the producer of the movie knew about Corona virus? The truth is that these people thinks ahead of us and can predict 30 years to come, take a look at another movie title BACK To THE FUTURE which was done in 1985 and the movie predicted current happenings and technology which we are seeing now, in 2015 a CNN went to MIT one of america research and technology institution and they where told that they have a technology where someone can play a ball in England and the ball will move when placed in USA not until November 2019 I realized that it can be achieved with 5G, MTN Nigeria tested it with their 5G when they where test running the 5G in November 2019, currently China can carry out surgery on a patient with the doctor not being there but with the help of 5G and Artificial intelligence Robot and we are here condemning 5G, whether you like it or not 5G has come to stay.
When Bill has done with his vaccine , hewill give to Africa and you will be the first to collect it.

stop wasting your time

mrZENographer:
Large doses of Vitamin c, Vitamin d3 cures coronavirus. But they are not being promoted by the pharmaceutical industries because of their dream for the vaccines.

To my knowledge, there covid-19 cases have been healed after my Pastor's prayer for them on the phone.

Dont go and die from Hypervitaminosis oo, Baba large doses

Adakintroy2:
My friend shut up and stop behaving like a kid. Have you balanced up. Or you think all the radio activities and climate changes are jokes. For all the petty things if truly climate change us real. Won't it be better if I was sending messages with pigeons.

You fucking up earth, now we are going to space to Bleep up space. All for what?. Growth, progress, at what cost. Half of the food are genetically modifield, they cause deseaez and cancer. Science itself create drugs and tech to valance it again. Do we really need all this much drugs. Imagine. We must be really sick ducks literary. Villagers don't have this much chemist or doctors. Why they balance up.

You gaining at one end, but at what cost. You are pulling a hill but digging a valley. While you open up wide on one end you are closing tighter on the other. It's common sense.

Corona a very weak deseaez that it's fatality rate us high on the age. Is wiping us out. Why we are a weak bread. We sit on cars everyday yet we are in motion. We don't work yet we pretend we work. We sit on chair all day in office staring at a system but we pretentious to work. We don't enter sun, we don't lift heavy objects. We,are all nerds no. No men. Just nerd. Thinkers.

Now a weak desease. a flu is killing us all. Spit.!

Very hay science.

mumu, climate change is not real yet marine life is degenerating, desert encroachment is becoming a problem in subsaharan Africa and ocean level in increasing.

What does a mumu like you know? Nothing

ajl:
You see how wicked you are. You are hiding under the protection of human rights in another country where people right is not trampled upon and govt can't just administer vaccines indiscriminately. And meanwhile you are canvassing for vaccination in your own homeland knowing fully well what could come out of that.

And who told you that I am based in Nigeria. I am equally an expert in more distant area of sciences and I have good idea of how to create monster-bugs in the lab. So, I know what Frankenstein scientists working with Fauci and idealist like Bill Gate could achieve together. You have no idea of the people you live with. Expect them to come save your people. Every man for himself

Nigerians don’t want vaccines, so why give them vaccine?

Leave them to herbal drugs and herd immunity. I have no single atom of pity for irredeemable idiots.
When the vaccine is ready, I and my children will take it. I pray that if anyone who didn’t believe in the vaccine eventually takes it, it won’t work.

Adakintroy2:
Oga I did not insult you. I gave my perspective. My definition of help is not the same as yours. Aside this thing you call help I bought with my money. They did not give me free. They sold it. So if I say it has not help me one bit it has not. It's mine.

You perspective is stupid. If science has not contributed any thing then you should have sent this reply on a paper tied to a pigeon.

Because you are entitled to your opinion doesn’t mean you will come here and say things like simpleton.

ajl:
Because the miserable govt officials is made up of people like you. Beggars who are just looking for white man money to steal like they are using Convid-19 numbers to attract local and international donor funding rather than look inward to solve their problems. Ordinary Madagascar has been distributing herbal cure to its citizen after removing lockdown. Kids are back in school in Madagascar while your sorry ass and your sorry beggar govt are still waiting for WHO and Bill Gate to come and give them vaccines. Serious people find solutions to their problems. Not waiting on a Master that has history of enslaving and even killing them with vaccines (e.g. Kenyan women sterilized after gettubg UN vaccines).

https://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find-anti-fertility-agent-un-tetanus-vaccine-2/5678295

Sorry, talk all your rubbish.
If you like let the vaccine come don’t collect it. Be stuck in 17th century.

And I don’t give a Bleep about your government, I don’t care about you lots. I’m not even coming back to that useless country full of idiots who can’t reason. I wish they don’t even waste resources sending vaccines to Africa.

Adakintroy2:
Truth is science has not help man one bit as it is pushing or led us to believe. It's all about control and make believe. Wrestling man from the grip of religion.

Take vaccination and polio. Science make it look like they save all of our children with vaccination. No polio and the rest were outbreak. Simple many died and many also Wil survive it and form natural immuinity, then communicate it to the next genration. That is natural evolution.

Ask yourself who vaccinated Abraham or Isaac or the unscientific people like our father's who live in forest. Nature take scare of all its inhabitants one way or the other. It takes from one and give to another. But science has told you if you do not vaccinate your children well...


Again. With all the tech and scidentific know how, life expectancy for the average urban dweller is till 50-60. Almost at per with a rural dweller. What has change?.

Science create a false illusion of needs endless. With psychology they know your mind can be hacked. They just pore their own needs into your mind and make you need them. It's an endless burden.halfe of what you want, you really don't want them. ask yourself, do we really need all this things we have right now. We like mad men with cans, and teen as possession.

Psycho Grapher study your mind and thinking process then use it to exploit you rather than help you. everyone is exploiting you.

Now with 5g they want us to go even faster. We're are we going?.what are we generating That we need to do more. Have we not had enough? all the things in this world and we still want more mind over matter. We are destroying the world and it does not.matter. for now it's creation for the e sake of creations.

All science accuse religion of It will be one day. Including bringing the end of days to us.

How can someone come online with a mobile phone using 4G and say science has not helped us a bit?

Bros, because you stuppid no mean say everyone stuppid oo