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Kobojunkie:
Well, I said I had questions and needed answers to those questuons.

What are the questions? Because what you typed was that you got answers you didn’t want.

Kobojunkie:
I don't know of you but the complexity of it turned out to be too much for my mind to handle. I had searched every where in my mind for thd answers that i needed only to be disappointed because the answers i needed were not all in there, so i sought a higher source to give me those answers now. I chose that instead of waiting a couple more years for someone to figure out the answers to my right now needs

How can you search for the answers you “wanted”?

Answers are answers irrespective of what you want, answers are not usually what you want. If you didn’t see any evidence for a god, it means it’s there are not evidence.

sonmvayina:
It is just what it is... Conciousness is what we call God..

Consciousness is what you and some people cannot provide evidence that it’s what you call God.

sonmvayina:
Do a research bro... Internet is not for watching porn only..

https://www.wired.com/2013/04/consciousness-after-death/

Bro, there’s no single evidence for anything you have typed.

How do you then know all these and accept them?

sonmvayina:
God is consciousness.... It is not a thing you can see or hold in your hand, it is existence itself or the source of everything in existence.... Outside of space and time, and definitely not part of creation..

How does that stop him from revealing himself if he wants to?

sonmvayina:
God is consciousness personified.. Not a thing.

I didn’t get your point.

As a preacher of the gospel, it is assumed that you believe in the existence of God, the creator of everything. It’s is also assumed that you have a good understanding of the nature of this God.

If they claim to understand their God and his mysterious ways then I expect everyone of them to understand the basic principle of most of their God’s creation.

It doesn’t make much sense to me that you understand a God who created the universe and you don’t understand the basic principles of his creations. If you cannot grasp the basic knowledge of planetary systems, evolution, ecology etc how then can you claim to know and understand a god that made them all?

There is really nothing much such a preacher can tell me because he basically doesn’t know more than he has been told by his religious mentors. He or she doesn’t really understand how any of God’s creation works. He or she is stereotyped.

You cannot claim to understand the spiritual when you can’t comprehend basic things in the physical. The spiritual doesn’t work independent of the physical according to various religious texts.

Christmasdon:
Jesus is everything, but people wouldn't want to listen. come and see our GOD, TASTE him and see. do good.

If your God has power then he should reveal himself to me by himself.

Azibalua:
The biggest benefit you have just piinted out.. *where people worship GOD*

Thats the biggest benefit
Even the workd health organksation knows the importance of prayers

Read their Ogas recent statement..

Worship from your house, God is everywhere.
Thanks

It’s gonna scare them even when we know there’s no evidence that juju works.

Azibalua:
We get it..

So let us damm the consequences and go to church jooor..

Please we are not complaining..

If i can die in the market, its thus far better to do so in church ...simple

Seems you just came here to argue.

A sane government knows that church buildings really do not have any benefit aside where people worship. The only way church buildings can be opened in a pandemic of a communicable disease is if they are made isolation Centers.

People cannot do without food and money but people can do without church buildings.

MJBOLT:

maybe Manna will fall from heaven

Even primitive animals will damn all consequences for just “Food” and their means of livelihood.
It’s no brainer why nature made it that way.

I’m shocked these church people don’t get it.

Azibalua:
Please be analytic in your thinking... markets create economic values yes

What sustains it...
Please think well b4 talking


So whilst creating economic value the people should become infected... and then deaths increase how valuable is the economy with the number of deaths increasing.. who will do the buying and selling

If the markets can be open the church should be OPEN..

There are fewer persons in an organised church hall than in MILE 12 market...

If we follow the guidelines by the NCDC and the models given to us opening the markets should have led to a huge number of deaths..my point is this is not science ...

Let the church open up or shut down everywhere simple..


How can an office with 200 persons function and a church with 100 persons meeting for 4 hours or less not function


Please think well
You did not go to school for nothing

Its all about benefit outweighing risk.

The benefit of opening markets for commercial activities outweighs the risk of spreading the virus. People need to feed and economy must run irrespective to avoid total chaos.

You can’t say same about opening churches. The benefits of opening churches in this scenario is far unsubstantiated.

Because markets create economic values while churches really do not create any value.

Mindlog:
Do care to share what it actually is.

Nope

eyinjuege:
I couldn't care less if you stopped reading.
It means nothing to me, and again nothing will change my opinion about cultists and rape

Your opinion, especially a fallacious one is not necessarily the correct answer. That’s why it’s called an “opinion”.

AerialMapper:
Sorry but you cannot assume her intentions...Dr Olufunmilayo Ogunsanya worded it perfectly

We cannot judge a rape case by Dr olufunmilayo’s logic alone, irrespective of whether he’s the victim or not.

If we do that, the results might set a bad precedence. This issue should be addressed for posterity measures.

eyinjuege:
Wrong
Only about 90% of rape cases are reported
And just about 5-10% of rape cases are false accusations
Rapists abound very much in our society, unless we want to lie and pretend
Infact, 1. all cult boys are rapists, and we know how rampant cultism is in our society, from secondary, university, even artisans on the streets have joined one cult or the other 2. Other than cultists, a lot of people in positions of power have been known to abuse such positions eg clergy, bosses of maids, fathers, step fathers etc
So because we have some people falsely accusing young men because of a relationship gone bad doesn't mean the number of rapists in our society is low, same thing as the fact that we're not testing a lot of people for covid doesn't mean it's low or not being spread.

I know we will get to that day in Nigeria where all rape cases will be fully scrutinised and enough support given to victims, and rapists will face the law. Just a matter of time, we will start doing rape forensics in Nigeria and women who have been violated will have evidence there and then to save for future persecutions of rapists

i stopped reading when you said all “cultists” are rapists.

That’s a fallacy of hasty generalization because you can’t prosecute a cultist in a rape allegation on the basis that he’s a cultist.

Rozz:
They will meet in court

You that has been supporting the girl before any court verdict.

Mindlog:
Rape, guilty or not once alleged is like an unremovable stain that goes with one through life.

You and other people made it seem that way.
That’s not what it is actually.

Rozz, what do you have to say to this?

tensazangetsu20:
Severe poverty, extreme famine, disease and hopelessness.

We have to pray against this?
That’s the only solution

Dealing with them on what ground?

If it’s on the ground that they have committed corruption then it’s justifiable.

If it’s on the ground that they criticize him then that’s total nonsense.

SmartProf:
This age bracket you mentioned are the productive population in Nigeria, who drive the economy by their multiple enterprising skills and productivity. Maybe you will recommend the lockdown of only young Nigerians in your next guidelines. Afterall, they were described as lazy Nigerian youths by Mr. President some time ago. I hope someday you guys in government will admit how old aged Nigerians are spreading corruption too

Strawman, you totally moved the argument away from what he’s saying.

He’s not talking about the whether this age bracket drives the economy, his point is that this age bracket is not being cautious enough about the spread of the virus.

We were taught philosophy and logic so we could stop committing fallacies when arguments are raised.

BREYZ:
Oya, come tie all the youths down now then lock us up. Na iberibe dey worry this man instead of you to do your job you are looking for who to blame, before you know it there will be a new directive targeted at the Youths/young people.

But by telling us this, he’s already doing his job. Don’t attack him, attack his point.

Is his point correct or not?

Dtruthspeaker:
How?

Asking this question means you haven’t been comprehending this discussion ever since.

Kobojunkie:
that's the question, isn't it!

Just so you know, I believe the one I serve is!

Lol, every religious person share this sentiment.

Kobojunkie:
There are those who believe we all worship the same God, not realizing that by that belief they declare God a liar suffering from a terrible case of multiple personality disorder/ dissociative identity disorder, of the god kind.

So which is the only God?

What a nation.

Dtruthspeaker:
it is between you, the persons in control of the church, Amadioha and God. My own, no dey there.

So you see that your initial point about “one god” is incorrect.

The issue here now is that most covid19 patients will heal without any form of miracle anyway.

This is a fact

Kobojunkie:
Leave to man to declare God the one with the "personality" disorder!

I didnt get your point.