alphaNomega:
The duration of mineral oil use does not matter. You shouldn't have used engine flush, synthetic oil would gradually take out all and any sludge in the engine as long as you change the oil regularly (i.e. every 5000 miles unless otherwise specified by the car manufacturer)

I used to be worried about switching from 20w50 to 5w-x, not any more. One of my major concerns was the cost of synthetic oi, but considering the time and money spent due to engine failure from 20w-50 use, it is worth it

tell that carpenter selling engine oil behind his keyboard with free Airtel opera-mini daily data =@sooperrescue

sooperrescue:


Maybe the corona phase 2 is affecting you.

quoting me again without answering or saying anything reasonable
@ sooperrescue the Engine oil seller kazem

Am sorry for those who instead to explore about their car come here to take unrecommended advise from a carpenter

If not for me, topic was dead, I will always come back to debunk any unrecommended advise

REMEMBER SAY MY TIME NA MONEY
CHEERS

madprophet:


Ok boss.

Thanks

And make sure you use a temostate in your engine or not but make sure fan is factory setting, dont blow all time, it help in regulating temp to 100degr so that injector stop running in OPEN LOOP FUEL OPERATION ( MORE FUEL) which flood the cylinder caurse carborn buildup and blowby 2ru the rings and contaminate your engine oil to black more also help engine oil reach 100degr recommended temp to evaporate water and fuel particles from engine oil.
cheers

Kingdemu:
You must be a dingbat! Do you think car engines work primitively like your cursed brain? Did you for a single second considered if the long use of 20w50 has already caused sludge buil up in his engine before advising him to switch to a 5w30 synthetic? I pity whoever take advise from a foolish roadside kazeem like you.

I never ask him to go synthetic as my comments above indicated clearly, rather I said he can switch to 5w30 if he is not burning or leaking oil, which is also available in conventional or mineral oil despite the fact that oil sellers association members like you prefer to import only synthetic ones

Why should I consider when he is not complaining

Maybe if not for my intervention you may have recommended engine flush that's not recommended by manufacturers
Am not a kaseem ,I am literate in automobile

Mr unrecommended engine damager

madprophet:


I should just stick to my Honda 5w 30 for 5000 miles right.

Where can I get the engine cleaner??

yes , or change sooner (3000) , but foget about that unrecommended engine cleaner it can knock your engine

sooperrescue:


You will have to use Engine flush cleaner that will be used when you are about to change the oil. The only one that I can recommend is Jensen's engine flush and you don't need to loose any sump. Just pour it in on the old oil and let it engine run idle for 5 minutes and drain out the oil and put fresh oil. As for the long oil interval, even Castrol guaranteed 20000 miles but from my conversation with them, it's not ideal for Africa.

DID THE CAR MANUFACTURERS RECOMMEND ENGINE FLUSH? MR EXPERT , that why you knocked someone engine at your outlet in Abuja

sooperrescue:

try and flush the engine and it will clean the interior of the engine. The CVT Oil is one of the best oil currently in the country and it is good for your car.

unrecommended advise

madprophet:


Hello Boss,

I use the Honda 5W 30 for my car(Honda and am at 2700 miles the oil is already very black, Does the colour of the oil affect the performance of the oil?

The engine oil is recommended to be used to 5000 miles?

What are your thoughts on the matter? Can i used addinol 5W 30, the delaer told me its for 9000km max

The Addinol CVT oil you recommeded has been wonderful, my gear response has been sweet since i started using the oil.

check your drain nots for metal particles make sure your pcv is working properly it is responsible for engine ventilation to extract blow-by from combustion through the pistin rings that get into the crankcase to the engine oil, change sooner and watch again

alphaNomega:
if your engine oils changes have been regular, you can switch to synthetic oil with no problems. Speaking from experience.

You would notice better performance from your car especially during cold starts.

that the point I'm trying to make before the chicken interrupted

sooperrescue:

He said that he has been using the oil for many years. There was a guy who brought his Toyota to our former outlet in Abuja and the car was filled with sludge. We used engine flush and the engine knocked. It is a dicey scenario

what wrong even if he has been using it for years? Do u know his oil change intervals , did u ask the for used oil analysis or compression test results ? Did he tell you he has sludge to give such a unrecommended advise ?hmm DO MANUFACTURER'S RECOMMEND ENGINE FLUSH? Because you wrongly flush and knocked someone else good or dieing engine Instead of using a semi synthetic oil to gradually flush the engine with shorter oil change intervals before going to synthetic , Go Learn how to give advice on automobile question ok? Or concentrate in your engine oil business Mr Abuja outlet
Fxxk you for knocking that engine

theoilguy:


Sooperrrescue, where is my 50,000 naira?

Have you finished solving all your family problems with it this 2021??

When I start dragging you again very soon, you would realize I would never forget.. old man, use your sense and pay your debt.. it’s been 1 year already.

you are even fraudulent @sooperrescue

Kingdemu:
Do not listen to this man. Do not switch. I repeat, Do not switch!!!

stop quoting my comments unnecessarily like a fool without any meaningful statement
Do u know me In person ?

I told him to use his 20w50 mineral oil for 3000 miles and told him he can still switch to 5w30 if his not burning or leaking oil, just like me that switch from 20w50 to 5w30 with out any issue especially when his state temperature is +38 and below e.g <-5 --------------5w30-----------+38

#stop nagging unnecessarily

EbukaIam:
Do you think 3500 miles is too long?

no I gave some reasons for that ,my car oil change interval is is 5000 miles

sureboykris:
Been using mobil XHP 20W50 for many years on my car. Is it too late to switch to the recommended oil..?
Never had an engine problem

run it 3000 miles , it's never too late to switch except you are leaking or burning oi

time na moneyl

I once experience gear oil shortage in my gear box my mechanic said am going change the seal between the engine and gear box , after the fix I was still experiencing same shortage ,I was using a two fan radiator and the fan close to the gear box(driver side) was bad but the one one close to the engine( passenger side) is working well , after fixing the bad fan close to the gear box the shortage stopped automatically , that when I realized that the shortage is coursed by overheating of the gear box but with the help of the fixed fan everything became ok and gear oil is now stable

ADVICE : always make sure the fan close to the gear box is functioning properly , it helps in cooling the gear box

mejai:


Una go kill person for here o.

OP, me don bath like 6 tyms and read again. What is the moral of the story?
Is it Gazzuzz? Ur car? Ur Kazeem? Ladipo call? Public holidays? Just which one? Abi all?

# advertising gazzuzciosly
happy for you , more money in your pocket

kingreign:

Fake. Toyota even disassociated themselves from thag product and iterated that its fake.

like seriously?

Blitherine:
Happy boxing day yall
Please who had an idea the current price of a 2001 toyota highlander fan...and also temperature gauge is not working at all what could be wrong

if the fan is connected to factory settings (not directly to battery ) and the temperature sensor is bad your car fan will not blow, change the temperature sensor first

1)use an engine themostate, it helps your car to reach it operating temperature quickly
2)if your fan is connected directly to battery ,it consume energy , take is back to factory settings , where fan blow anytime when temperature reaches half of the temperature gauge, with or without a themostat, so that your car can run on close loop fuel operation, the injector run on open loops fuel operation until temperature reaches half of the gauge
3) test your o2 sensors and replace if bad
4)clean or change air filter ,if filter is blocked it consume a lot of energy to suction air
5) check your exhaust for leakages
6) put fuel injector cleaner in the fuel tank to flush your injector nozzles
7) check or change your plugs
use your recommended engine oil
9) don't drive aggressively or accelerate much
10) check your miles per each gallon,

time na money

as for me I do 3500 miles base on factors 1) bad engine oil regulations in Nigeria 2) unchecked low engine oil quality 3)hot weather 4) using A.C on when parked and engine running on many occasions

as for me I do 3500 miles base on factors 1) bad engine oil regulations in Nigeria 2) unchecked low engine oil quality 3)hot weather 4) using A.C on when parked and engine running on many occasions

ITbomb:
And some peeps even confuse 3000 km with 3000 miles

some cars dashboard read in km while some read in miles, which ever way you find yourself always know that miles is higher

I own a Camry that starts massive oil shortage all of a sudden , multiple seal leaking , I almost gave up that my engine was bad until stumbled on a trend about pcv , which is responsible for engine ventilation, it happened that my is bad and blocked which resulted in my engine oil overheating and oxydicing ,and excess pressure in the crankcase which lead to seals damages , after changing and replacing seals everything is now ok no shortage please take note

https://www.dummies.com/home-garden/car-repair/fuel-system/how-to-check-and-clean-the-pcv-valve/

9icetoo:

1. Let's get one thing straight first.
Viscosity: this is defined as a fluids resistance to flow. Bear this in mind.
Now certain manufacturers have designed their engines in line with the flow characteristics and shear resistance of the recommended engine oils.
Granted, thicker (more viscous) oils offer better protection from shearing experienced at higher temperatures (above 100 degrees c) but there is a limit. I will address that later.
Thinner oils (less viscous) offer more protection at startup and more fuel economy. Mind, wear and tear occurs more at startups than any other time (except for engines operating at high rpms ie racing).
2. I know what engine oil temperature gauge is. Did you just discover it?
Most cars dont have it. If they needed all it, the manufacturers would have installed it. Oil temperatures inside an engine varies. From the cylinder wall to the bottom of the piston, to the journals of the crankshaft. The oils here are hotter than the oil in your crankcase where the oil temperature is measured and fed to your instrument cluster. Engine manufacturers are more interested in oil pressures(flow) than oil temperatures. A very thick (viscous) oil may generate lower pressure (reason why the winter grades were created) leading to premature engine wear. Very thin oils may also struggle to generate sufficient pressures (reason why viscosity modifiers were added) leading to engine wear at high rpms.
3. We are not discussing recommended oil but it's also good to go with recommended unless you are using your car for special applications or modifying it. In that case you use what suits your application. Again, you consult the oem. If they can't advise, you bite the bullet. What you see is what you get.
4. Don't be stupid. I will leave it at that.

Now to add to 1 above(I said I will get to that),
You need to understand that oils and engines have advanced from what they were 60 years ago.
Oil is also a coolant. It is actually your oil that takes away heat from your cylinder walls (water jacket does this too), piston, crankshaft, camshaft, connecting rods etc. This waste heat is transfered to the block where the coolant takes it away. For the oil to do this effectively, it needs to be thin enough to flow through these tiny crevices and galleries, lubricate them in turn, withstand shearing, thinning and maintain sufficient pressure in the oil pump.
When an oil is too thick, the oil pump has to work harder to get it through the tiny galleries and crevices (differential pressure is what creates flow). When the pump (designed for less viscous fluid) works too hard to pump a more viscous fluid two things happen 1. The wear and tear on the pump increases. 2. The differential pressure generated by the pump is reduced. Recall I mentioned that differential pressure is what creates flow and by extension lubrication. (If you still don't get it, well, I tried.
So by using a very thick oil, you rob your engine of 1. Coolant and 2. Lubrication.

Lastly, viscosity is not the only parameter to consider when choosing the engine oil for a car. You also have to consider the API rating. SN and above apply for newer cars. I think SM for engines below 2002. This has an even bigger bearing on the longevity of your engine.

Car manufacturers have worked with oil producers to develop these oils and the operating conditions were taken into consideration. Even 50 degree celsius ambient temp was considered because they know that there's the death valley in usa and people drive there! These new oils with improved base oils and additives have viscosity indexes high enough to protect engines at both extremes of temperatures. The higher the VI, the less effect high temperature will have on the viscosity.

I am sure the oil manufacturers also considered temperatures as high as the 108 degrees celsius you see on your gauge because I know the temperature between your crankshaft and your main bearings is higher than 120 degrees celsius.

thanks bro this is what I refer as technical answer ,I appreciate your explanations

I found another trend similar to this

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/at-operating-temp-why-does-outside-temp-matter.193826/

pls no offense but I wish to say any one who don't have any experience or ideology about engine oil temperature gauge reading during hot temperature advise may not be valid here because that's where my research it heading to ,
am out

9icetoo:
So according to op, we should all be using SAE 40 or SAE 50 oils. Nigeria has only one weather, hot. Rarely ever drops below 20 degrees celsius except in the northern parts at nightfall or in the high mountains ranges like obudu at nightfall.

Well, whoever thinks he ought to go with the op against the manufacturer s advice only has himself to blame when the inevitable occurs.

40 weight oil in engines made with very high tolerances and even tinier oil galleries and plumbing. I just shudder at the thought of the stress and wear going on in those engines.

5w30 is a goal for my rides. Hasn't failed yet.

1) is this the only technical answer u have towards this trend ?
2)do know what engine oil temperature gauge is, have any car or equipment that has it or don't have any idea about it like eriko deos
3)are we discussing recommended oil here ?
4) did you ever attend a social club or understand communication properly ?
my only answers towards oil viscosity is when told it doesn't matter with out pointing towards multiple question I asked with out any technical explanation, not according to me telling anyone to use 40w oil which you are negatively painting, what I asked is that 5w30 at engine operating temperature (100deg ) is 30w, which oil temperature is supposed to be 100deg too, what happens when engine oil temp gauge exceed 100deg (during hot out side temp) up to 108deg engine oil temp and what viscosity 30w will be then for better protection , if you don't have any technical answer pls arbort

please note

as for me I use 5w or 10w30 in my 1999 Camry because my state ambient temperature (out side temperature) is below +38 deg which is the Max ambient temperature 30w oils can accommodate during engine operating Temp 100deg and will never use 5w30 above >+38 up to +45 ambient (out side temp)
<-3------5w30----->+38 maximum
<-7---------20w40--------------------+45
<-7---------20w50------------------------------50
<-5---------10w30---->+38
<-0---------0w30------>+38
( anticipated ambient temperature) found in most manuals like mine for my model with out mentioning synthetic or mineral oil ,
according to my manual and maybe not all car manual pls note.
it a fuel economy vs better protection vibe and remember oil loss it viscosity after some duration of operation

remember time na money

erico2k2:

Oh ok you thought I was chatting shyte right? FYI Im a fluid Mechanic .

wait before you start bragging I never told you that I don't know oils change viscosity , our argument is using the word elasticity to describe oil , which I I came back here to identify with you is right
looking through this trend you never identify your wrong concept and ideology about cars actually having oil temperature gauge or contributing any meaningful answer via when oil temp go above 100degr in hot temp or it viscosity then for better protection despite you never having the equipment know or having idea about it at all , which means your not here to learn or communicate properly , even after asking which chart , I presented demo oil ambient temperature chart table which can be seen in most 2001 backward or forward car manual , with out any single comments towards that
my manual 1999 Camry say use 5w or 10w-30 and also gave an oil ambient temp chart table which say 30w at engine operating Temp 100deg can accommodate or function up to +38 ambient (out side temp) ,
<-1-2-3 -------------5w30----------+38> maximum

what happened when you reside above up to +45 environment or when oil temp increase above it idea temp 100deg up to 108 , what will be 30w viscosity then to better protect the engine ?