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pompeiimagnus:
The Republican leadership in Congress actually sent out a memo to their members not to vote for the bill. It's not going to be a surprise when McConnell and co. at the Senate unanimously oppose it when it gets to them. All eyes are on 2022, they just want to oppose everything and win back more Senate seats. It's just amazing how powerful the US Senate is, and how they can frustrate any administration's agenda.

This is exactly what I pointed earlier

no immigration reform would pass without bipartisan support, and the so-called republicans blocking it, claiming to be in favour of ”merit-based”

Are actually against any form of migration be it legal or illegal

Proposing bills to cut legal migration by half.

The border crisis, this is not the first time it's happening.

as trumps draconian policies could be, it happened in 2019 under him

it's just what happens when economic hardships happen. People from those countries send their kids unaccompanied

hoping they get in.

It isn't a good thing, personally I don't know how it could be mitigated
Tough decisions would have to be made

But us pretending like it's because of ” Biden's open borders” caused it

is just plain foolishness.

pompeiimagnus:
I swear! Melanie Trump got her greencard by claiming that she was a global model and qualified as "extraordinary ability". Meanwhile a STEM MS/PhD graduate still needs to go through hurdles to prove extraordinary ability.

When I said it is not merit-based I know what I was saying

it can easily be bought by money

all in the name of merit-based



let's be realistic here a graduate from a North American or European university would be picked over a graduate from Obafemi Awolowo University with a first-class

Let's stop pretending like we haven't seen rich people Conner these things.

Yesterday we were talking about immigration reform

same yesterday for the first time ever

House passed a bill for pathway to citizenship for young undocumented immigrants ”dreamers” making 4.4 million kids eligible for permanent residency

Only 9 Republicans in the house voted with Democrats

that same yesterday, a bill that would permit farm workers and there family to to earn legal status through continued employment in the agricultural sector, and would make changes to the H-2A agricultural guest worker program.
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Watch it get voted against in the Senate

Because of the archaic filibuster system

when I kept mention bipartisanship earlier for immigration reform

”Merit-based”

Like that would stop the illegal border crossing.

pompeiimagnus:
The EB1,2&3 visas actually cover merit-based immigration. The problems are the backlogs for
Asian countries due to per country limits, extended processing times during Trump's tenure, and the strict requirements for company sponsorship.

Naturally, an MS/PhD graduate from a US University currently working in his/her field in the US should be able to petition for these visas without requiring company sponsorship. But that is not the case presently, unless the person decides to go through the NIW. Stephen Miller, Trump's immigration adviser, even made matters worse. He totally opposed legal migration just like Trump did.

If Melanie Trump could easily get the Einstein visa (EB1) based on her "modeling" career, why should an Indian/Chinese engineer working at Spotify and graduated from an American University, have to wait 100 years just to get a priority date for his EB2 application? Trump's immigration plan which was drafted by Stephen Miller, was to make it even more difficult for people to migrate legally to the US. If Oga Trump had won reelection, they would have used Covid as an excuse to potentially block immigration for the next 4 to 8 years.

Thank God someone sees what I am talking about

”metit based ”

If you are looking for merit-based visas and professionals

look up the H1-B lottery

so merit based.

I don't know which other kind of merit-based you want

Just come out and say it clean

we don't want low/zero educated people here. when there is an influx of educated people, what do they end up doing?

Jobs meant for low/zero educated people

Its not rocket science.

obixcel:
Finally Biden let's out the Truth...no surprise cos it's in the making already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slAhCVw9QTI
"President Harris and I......?"

Continue

always on YouTube.

In that same Canada

the is a popular joke among Nigerians, the best place to have heart attack is in a taxi

why? You are more likely coming across a Nigeria doctor driving Uber.


Talk about ”merit-based”

After the whole IELTS, reading bla bla

you end up driving an Uber

Forgetting that American companies would most likely not even look at your degree if it's not from a 1st world country.

”merit-based”

How many mechanics or hairdressers, have you heard passed the ielts and made it to canada

Let's start from there.

since you can't grab that the present visa lottery is all-inclusive regardless of your occupation or race

there is the H1-B for specifically for professionals.

what other one do you want again!!!!!

come of it, lets stop pretending like we don't know the end game here

let the merit-based system start, bet 10 years from now

Republicans would say it's susceptible to fraud.

keep feigning ignorance. ”conservative”

More like bunch of clowns.

CoronaVirusRelo:
The point of discussion is not about race or colour, it's about illegal immigration. This ladder you you talk about, I am sure you don't know aboutbthe ladder coming the illegal way. Trust me you don't. That aside.

What's illegal is illegal. Thats the name, and I didn't make up that name. And that books to the fact that no discussion or argument here will ever make it legal.

I am conversant with an ideology where fraud is a norm and being against it is jealousy, I know condemning exam malpractice is wickedness. Lets try to be straight with norms.

If you had been coming here since the 80's, why didn't you stay put despite the limitless opportunities here? I guess you couldn't go that route.

What you clamour for as led many astray. I know what am talking about and it's not hidden in the USA. The truth is, few relate with their experiences here.

And talking about social economic impact, do I still have to go there? This shouldn't a debate where norms are on the table.

We all know what is wrong is wrong

But a wal won't stop the illegal crises

What do you suggest is done

I'm really interested in your idea. Explain

When I mentioned the diversity immigrant visa. I mentioned that a favoured a set of people

The image below showing application from those set of people

And why ”REPUBLICANS” are suddenly merit-based now

Images I posted above showed that the plan showed merit-based was Lydon B Johnson's plan, same REPUBLICANS felt family-based was the better one (because the knew at that time, it would most likely come from European nations)

Now it's merit-based they are advocating for

talambout ”Pelosi shot it down”

why won't she

go and read about diversity programs

is more like a skilled workers program

At diversity interview, you have to show what you have to offer to the US

teachers, mechanics, tailors, hairdressers. Many I have seen

switching to a”merit-based system” is going to be a biased and money gulping system.

Can you see the kind of things republicans tout as ”immigration reform”

cutting immigration by half won't stop illegal immigration

Republicans want just the rich to come to America legally read it

and you would be dissapointed

”merit-based sytem”

more like racist system

Not going to do shit too the backlog, only increase it

current immigrant visas issued in a year is like 1 million yet they are still backlogs, dating back 20 years for some cases

Republicans want to cut it by half which is 500,000 visas down the drain what is that going to do? Other than increasing the wait times and backlogs. That Same bill is going to kick away the visa lottery program. Go look at the visa lottery program and those it favours the most

You see why republicans want too scrap it off

If you are black or brown person in the united states through visa lottery and you support republicans

Shame on you.

In 2007 George bush pushed a bill like Biden's plan to give 11 million illegals legal status. It was abandoned by his republicans

Lydon B Johnson initial immigration bill was like Canada's own

southern congress opposed it who are the modern southern congress? Republicans

if you read deep into almost everything republican

it's built on racism

I repeat if you are black person that managed to find yourself in the US by the standards set by democrats then you became republican in the name of ”conservatism”

Shame on you, and God help you

Pontaboki:
Yes he has even completed the affidavit of support and provided all his recent tax filings.He even stated in the AOS as a relative,is it possible for her to go to the interview with that?

Not actually sure

Pontaboki:
How can this issue be resolved cos my sisters joint sponsor initial sponsor was the friend to the husband but our uncle has now also filled an affidavit of support and provided other documents,will it help?

So you want your uncle to replace as joint sponsor correct?

rossovu:
Is the joint sponsor a family member?
My brother was put on Ap this morning cus his wifes joint sponsor is her godmother. The CO said they only accept family members as joint sponsors.

I am friends with your brother

his story is annoying

The CO is overzealous

Many people have used friends as joint sponsor

But it's a minute issue sha

Cornpop:
Still does not make sense. Because people overstay there visa let's open the borders for everything to pass through. This is stupid reasoning

Who claimed this? Not me

what I just want you too know is

Republicans pretend like they are against, only illegal migration

When they are generally anti-migration

Ask anyone that knows about US immigration

How slow and frustrating, trumps admin made legal migration

especially to countries of color

It's clear, they are NAZI’s

I.e Stephen miller and the rest.

Something needs to be done to the border crises yes

But it isn't a wall that would stop it

raumdeuter:
Visa lottery was passed under a Republican president yet Democrats are trying to claim credit for it. Should we also credit any law passed under Trump when Democrats were in control of Congress to Democrats?
Democrats had 16yrs of Presidency since then what have they done about it? Nothing yet every election cycle becomes a catchy phrase for them to get votes

Why won't the merit system work in America? Is it not the system in use currently by our favourite example Canada? Is it not working in Canada?
When you propose healthcare for all using Canada as an example, you forget that healthcare in the US is broken right now

The immigration system is broken, Canada system won't work
The Healthcare system is broken, Canada system is the solution

Sir I am really disappointed in you sincerely

I saw you as a reasonable person

It's clear here that republicans didn't sponsor the lottery bill but Democrats did

But because Bush signed it's suddenly republican?

wow

I gave you reasons why the merit system won't work right now.


You conveniently overlooked where I mentioned the same republicans tried to scrape off the lottery.

lmao

enjoy. No conversation from me anymore

Look at the data I posted earlier

enjoy

Cornpop:
They came lawfully. That your argument no make sense. They can be tracked, they have their records. If they meet all your immigration requirements you have no choice but to let them him. If they choose to remain illegally it has nothing to do with their immigration process Because they came in legally.

And this right here is the point

Border illegals, are minute compared to visa overstays

that's why I kept telling you your comparison to Canada is wrong, Canada is a not within borders with any third world country you can't compare them

Most of the illegals in the US and Canada came by planes, the only reason canadas own is different is because they are immigration friendly

So far you are clean, you can apply

Americas own is way different

They were immigration friendly in 70’s up to the early 2000’s

But it isn't so anymore

raumdeuter:
Like Republicans that did the diversity lottery which brought many immigrants into America

Republicans proposed a merit based system like the one used in Canada and Australia that you all love, guess who tried to stop it? Democrats

Lmao, seems you having partial forgetfulness here oooo, same visa lottery trump and his cronies decided to get rid off?

Republicans were not the ones that sponsored visa lottery

Go and read about it

A democrat named TED KENNEDY, did that

And it passed by bipartisanship when Republicans were still reasonable

though plenty of them voted against it

out of the 8 people in the Senate that voted against it, 5 were Republicans

in the house, the major nays were republicans

George bush, only did his job by signing it into law because it passed both houses

The merit-based system is a system that wont do shit to America's system right now it's broken

I'll post the visa bulletin below

they are some cases that were petitioned for in ’98

That hasn't been processed

a through revamping is needed

Cornpop:
We are talking about illegals here again. You cannot enter Canada illegally and make asylum claim. You better stop mixing up stuff. There is a process to seek asylum in both US and Canada. People who seek asylum in-land Canada was already given a visa. They did not get there illegally. Know the difference. It's not hard.

I was talking about travelling to Canada vs USA. Canada is more strict. This is a fact.

And what you keep missing is

70% of illegals in the US came with a valid visa

can't you get that

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Cornpop:
What are you basing this lie on? You can't even seek asylum from Canada... You have to be outside the country to do that. And they are very far from flexible.

Notice how you said Canada is flexible with legal migration and student easily get permanent resident. So what are you talking about? Are you confused? The topic here is illegal migration and Canada does not tolerate that one bit.

Canada and Australia are two nations that are stricter than at US in terms of legal migration.

Here you go saying what you don't know
They are only two ways to claim asylum in canada

At the point of entry, or when you are inside Canada at the the office of immigration, refugees and citizenship

I don't know about Australia, because I have never read about there immigration policies

Last I read, only in 2018 canada accepted more refugee than the united states

Yet they are lesser than the united states by any measure

Link below
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48696974

raumdeuter:
You mean 2 years is not enough? How long will be enough for democrats to do something about immigration?

How many years did Republicans have full control to make their changes they did like the tax break

Lmao, you smartly ignored the point if the topic

That immigration reform needs bipartisanship

let me mention one that democrats sponsored

DACA

who tried to stop it again

REPUBLICANS

so what exactly do you want

If a large scale immigration reform is too be done

Bipartisanship is needed, Republican senators won't back that

what they would back is a total stop in immigration, which is insane.

Cornpop:
What are you basing this lie on? You can't even seek asylum from Canada... You have to be outside the country to do that. And they are very far from flexible.

Notice how you said Canada is flexible with legal migration and student easily get permanent resident. So what are you talking about? Are you confused? The topic here is illegal migration and Canada does not tolerate that one bit.

Canada and Australia are two nations that are stricter than at US in terms of legal migration.

Here you go saying what you don't know
They are only two ways to claim asylum in canada

At the point of entry, or when you are inside Canada at the the office of immigration, refugees and citizenship

I don't know about Australia, because I have never read about there immigration policies

Last I read, only in 2018 canada accepted more refugee than the united states

Yet they are lesser than the united states by any measure

Link below
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48696974

raumdeuter:
Democrats are controlling presidency senate and congress

Clinton 8yrs Obama 8yrs but its still Republicans that are at fault

Sir you are one of the smartest republicans I know, you are smarter than this

you know that immigration reform can't happen without bipartisanship

especially with the filibuster system


And out of those years, mention the times democrats held the Senate for more than two years consecutively

I know you know, so mention them

Elnon:
You said it all...The society is rotten not just the educational system...A very OPPRESSIVE society that's why whenever you see a confrontation between Nigerians, the question 'Do you know who I am?' is always inevitable. 95% of Nigerians yearns for an opportunity to oppress his fellow human being...Same thing the politicians are doing etc...No genuine love for one another in such a very religious country.

Living here gives me allergy and so grateful its confirmed I'm leaving this shithole this year....Wont ever raise kids here..

The days of admission seeking, I once went too an office to notarize a document

the secretary there made me tour the place 5 days on a row, because of silly excuses

I now wondered, what if she was the issuing body? How many days would I spend just to see her

our leaders have their fault, but the majority if Nigeria problem, is from the ordinary citizens

Cornpop:
This guy has gone nuts. They farm for peanuts because people are taking advantage of them which is against the law. You are not even supposed to hire illegals. Have you been to Paris during their illegal migration crisis? Have you seen their streets and the uptick of crime? If it has no effect why all nations fight to control it and not open their borders for everyone? If their migration to France is so heavenlike why do they try to get to the UK?

Why did Canada stop it? Canada the 2nd largest nation in the world with less popular still won't accept illegals. Why do you think so? They are racist too right? Abeg get sense.

Lmao, this is rubbish

Canada has a huge amount of asylum seekers and is very flexible with it's migration laws, and also it isn't a border country to a third world country

so obviously the illegals would be lower than that of the U.S

60% if the illegals in the US came by planes

they are people that overstayed there student and visitors visa

as I said Canada is more flexible with immigration, so students easily get permanent residence after schooling and visitors find way to seek for refugee or asylum.

but US own is not like that, the US immigration system is in shambles

It needs to be rearranged

Republicans would never agree though, but it really needs to be re arranged.

PrideofLincoln1:
That midget Obixcel is a sick puppy. He's been losing the little left of his charred brain since Trump was disgraced and humiliated out of the White House.

Them thinking the border is one big gate Without CBP there

Is what is amusing.

In the name of being conservative

obixcel:
The Capitol is currently fenced round and secured, but the Border is open? Think about it, it makes no sense.

Shows you know nothing about borders.

as I said

mumurity continues.

obixcel:
There's d so called EQUALITY BILL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fquL1y0QAM4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGJwb3aVUXM
I can't believe Democrats are pushing this? Perversion, Insanity, total moral corruption, Unnatural etc.. Everyone should be scratching their heads too

You have come again with your mumurity?

don't worry.

Brightfab:
I don already follow you, so I no go miss gist when you start the diary

Lmao, my own no go con too mad ooo

because I have actually been there two times

But I am moving there permanently now.

but make we still look how him go be

Because I too would be going to school again

I went back too hot points from macky

I am in page 30 now, I'll update when I am done