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RuuDie:
whats with these serbs, PKs & handballs sef

somebody pls remind em dis is the football WC & not handball

i tire
same thing they did against Ghana
just that Gyan get sense

mikeansy:
Podolski most useless German player ever because he missed a penalty?

not really, Podolski is still a very good player.

Its just his bad day.

who called him the most useless?

He missed 2 good chances even b4 the penalty

if they dont win today, its Podolski

Krasic wants to kill them ooo

Bastian Played all their penalties in friendlies

how come Lukas useless is now the one playing?

na wa o

whats wrong with this Poldoski?

3 chances (including a penalty)

asstard

This Poldoski is another Keita


Vidic is another Kaita oooooooooooooooooooo

The ball that Haruna deflected, instead of running foward to close the man down he stood where he was and tried to back out.

na today den dey deflect ball inside net

@Sagamite

leave me alone o

@Ajayi
i like the way you argue. Good thinking

yes, the country should go grassroot and dig up the youngsters!!!!!!!!!!!!
do you know when the responsibility of the federation stops as regards unearthing talents?
it stops as soon as they have given opprtunities for these players to showcase what they have on the global scene ( U-17 and U-20 world cups)
what else do you want the Federation to do in unearthing young players?
maybe you dont know, Nigeria have won the U-17 tourney more than most countries of the world so its never a case of not developing young talents

Do u know know where the Yemi Tella boiz are right now? do you know they are not doing well for themselves after the youth competition? personally, players need to develop themselves, get into good clubs, develop ur footballig abilities and bcome a household name in european clubs.
When our players metamorphose from youth competitions to household names in europe, be rest assured our SE will be hawt and one of the best teams. Thats the reason why the Ivoriens can match some of the european teams.

One of the reasons why our youth players tend to fade into oblivion after excelling in youth competitions is cos they are always overaged whenever they represent the country. The 1985 team u talked about must have been U-35 but competed with U-17 chaps all over the world. why wont they win the competition?

Even the Yemi Tella boiz. One of those boiz had a naming ceremony for his baby immediately after the competition and looking at the wife, she'll probably be around 27. So how come the Husband was U-17?

those are the things that i think the NFF should look into. as per unearthing talents, they might not be the best but i doubt if they are not trying their best.

You dont need a soothsayer to know we are short of talents in this country cos most of our players play in grade B clubs apart from Mikel. when u have players in the top clubs in europe, ur national teams will be a force to be reckoned with all over the world

then why did we hire him if he shares no responsibility in our failure or success

ok
its lagerbacks fault haruna deflected the ball and the ball slipped from enyeama

its also his fault one of our players became a kung fu speacialist

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=452348.msg6237920#msg6237920 date=1276861161]Sagamite's mind is made up. . . . . .If we had won yesterday, he would still have found flaws in the match.
What he fails to understand is. . . . There's no perfect match. I could pick 200 flaws from the German team when they hammered the Aussies 4-0.

Nigeria were grossly unlucky but Kaita's indiscipline was the harbinger.
I am sure Taiye wouldn't have gotten himself crocked if he wasn't busting his gut and over-labouring himself when we were down to 10 men.[/quote]Mint!!!!!

Goals are goals like you said when Green shipped in a goal against the yankees
but how do u blame Lagerback for the deflection, the goal enyeama shipped in, the Kaitas kick, taiwos injury, Echejiles injury?

how did he get to the conclusion that Osaze woulda/shouda played as a lone striker instead of Yakubu
the Osaze i saw in 45 mins was useless;

Lagerback was on point and the team was unlucky thats all

Sagamite:
Where did I prescribe shoot at sight for SE?

I said they should restrict the Greeks to, at best, shooting from distance.

how do u restrict people that are numerically more than u?

and maybe u forgot the 2 goals they scored were shots taking from long distance
did you forget? maybe Lagerback told them exactly what you highlighted but the deflection and the jabulani ball wouldnt allow

so how is that lagerbacks fault?
hehehehehe

mikeansy:
when did you realise that the players are not good enough and why are you defending an NFF who fraudulently pays a Foreign Coach huge salaries deserving only of those who are trying to win the world cup knowing that our players are not good enough?

its such a shame how you guys are defending corruption openly and trust me when we crash out next week your source of income will surely take a hit.

abi u wan make i whoze you from internet?
wetin concern my income with SE?

im not defending NFF: On the admin part, the nFF will share the blame
The reason we are where we are is cos of the dearth of players; our NFF was bad in 1994 when we won the nations cup

maybe u need to dig up stories to refresh ur brains

mikeansy:
the problem is that the results do not support you argument to superior knowledge.

we have lost 2 out of 2 in a 3 match group stage and are about to crash out of the world cup

so whatever it is you and your hired agent Lagerback know is simply not working

unfotunately you dont have the decency to admit it that or even them shame to keep silent.

what a shameless bunch.

Perreira is about to crash out of the world cup
whatever they hired him for is not workin too

Eriksson will not qualify for 2nd round with CIV (mark my words)

Its the quality of players you have; its not the coach

go and prepare for the next world cup

We wasted 2 players in one position(Left Back). . . . .If we weren't so unlucky, those 2 subs woulda been TACTICAL instead of trying to replace an injured player in the LEFT BACK POSITION - A position that needed to be plugged but won't necessarily give us a GOAL.

is this thing difficult to understand?

look at Sagas shoot at sight prescriptions

laffable

Where is jay bee?

Come and join the queue, don't think you can hide now o.

If you cannot do that, then bring in Adeleye for Yak, play 5 at the back. Let them shoot from distance against a keeper that is quality.

Isnt that thing in bold laffable and ur Options 1 and 2
u think coaching is chess or ludo?

u think its all about removing and adding players as the spirit leadeth ur shooting from distance approach?

shoot from distance? hehehehe

Play 5 in defence and 3 in midfield and 1 in offensive midfielder stroke striker. Let them shoot from distance which they are poor at.

do u actually think this a five a side competition in Oju elegba?
hehehehe

ur coaching tips sounds primitive and even Amodu wouldnt give such tips

stick to business advisory abeg

Ignore the guy because thats not true


Olubayo Adefemi would have added a very important youth on the right back if chosen

Peter Utaka (not John Utaka) would have finished clinically that placing that Yakubu missed before Obasi failed to score in an open net.

Solomon Okoronkwo would have brought the guile and pace needed to unlock defence from the right flank. He did this skillfully at the last olympics in Beinjing.

Anichebe would have given an option from the bench which Kanu Nwankwo was too old to give.

Even our best defensive pair from the selected 23 was not even used. Go and re-watch the two goals scored by Greece yesterday and pay attention to our central defenders. Some times they are just content at watching the opponent have a shut at goal and hope that it does not go in.

Largerback simply does not know our best players nor does he know the best formation to suit them. They claimed after the interview that the reason lagerback was hired was because he knew so much about our players but unfortunately our performances and his choices of players show that claim was another media spin by NFF.

im sure u went to a tertiary institution
is anichebe better than Obasi?
or are u saying we should have taken 24 players?

who d fck is solomon okoronkow and olubayo adefemi?
would they bench the people on parade?

whats ur point? drop the ones we have and take the ones u highlighted?

if the man had dropped Obasi, peeps like you would have asked why Obasi was dropped for Anichebe (a bench warmer in everton)

Peter Utaka?
dude ure a joke

maybe u didnt know h played friendlies for Nigeria; who should have been dropped for Peter? Yakubu?
hehehe or Martins

Lagerback doesnt know but u internet analyst knows better than him and amokachi

go and sleep somewhere

[quote author=Sisi_Kill link=topic=457501.msg6237482#msg6237482 date=1276855822]Now that's worrisome.[/quote]thats the problem we are facing
we dont have exceptional players anymore

whatever

i dont want Amodu near that team again

its because of u that this woman has continuted to behave this way

u shd have written to the head office narrating your ordeal

2) you give some agbero some lil money to waylay her and beat the hell out of her

if na me, thats what ill do. write to HQ and enlist my flipmode squad to destroy her front teeth

when they are done beating her, they tell her never to intimidate people anymore

u guys will see changes in her beaviour more so when she wont have teeth to show when talking

Question - Why is the national team made up of players based outside the country? Are they saying they couldn't have found home based player just as good or even better than these foreign players?

The best 23 players of Nigeria are the ones on parade

it doesnt matter where they ply their trade
If most of them play in europe, its because the home based lads are not just good enuff

Brasil has 95% of their squad playing outside the shores of the country, same goes for argentina

even the dutch have their best players outside eredevise
Its not a 9ja problem. Professional players would always want to play in good leagues and i dont think our local league is up to standard yet

Sagamite:
1) The same way these same guys knew Amodu's selection was wrong especially proud9ja.

2) The fact of what we have seen of Obasi in the first game.

3) The fact that Obasi is a striker in Hoffenheim and we needed to defend a goal up for as long as possible and our opponents just brought an extra striker into the game.

4) The fact that Odems is our star man due to his skill, work rate, creativity and commitment on the pitch in a lot of matches. Whilst Obasi has done nothing except score against Egypt. He rarely is noticeable in a match for 90mins.

how does what u know be a determining factor as per who gets to play
and so if Odems is the most skillful

what did he do when he was on d field

You think the coach doesnt know who should play and who shouldnt

i can bet Amodu wouldnt know cos he doesnt know jack
2+2 with amodu is 22 so who d fck is he?

Please YOU be TRUTHFUL for once and come and admit that LGBK got his subs wrong, even if you are not going to admit he got his team selection wrong in the first game.

how will you know the selection was wrong?
were you at the training sessions with them?

Veron plays for Estudiantes, Parlemo also play in local league but none of our local league players were good enough for world cup and yet you don't think that is a problem. There is a saying that a river without a source dries up quickly. That is clearly what is hppening to our football. Without a vibrant local league there will never be continuity in our football

but Kano Pillars beat Al Ahly

However I dont expect anyone who is a stakeholder in the corruption and failure going on in the NFF to reason clearly along these lines

are you smoking Indian hemp?
this is the third time someone on this forum feels i eat govt money

e be like say somethn dey worry all of una

i dey work for NFF abi na me employ Lagerback

mikeansy:
and whose responsibility is it to instill discipline in team?

if the players should be finish product before coming to play for Nigeria why do we need a big money wage eaner as manager then?

when Rooney clapped his hands in front of a REF and got a needless red card
maybe SAF should have been sacked "for not instilling discipline" in the boi

hehehe

will a coach run to the field to stop the player from acting mad?

It is refreshing to know that there are people who can still think rationally.
TKB417 claims our local leagues are performing excellently and yet none of the local clubs have a player representing Nigeria in the World Cup and yet someone thinks thats good enough

The Brasilian league is one of the most respected in the world

how many players in this squad play locally in Brasil

Robinho is a Man City Player who chose to leave for home because of his probs with his coach- so dont even go there

what about the Argentines? CIV?

i think Yakubu is a Arrow

@tkb417,

it is the job and obligation of the footballing authority of any nation to ensure that football is run and managed to acceptable standards within that country. Especially with issues like selecting the right coaches, plans for grooming a team so that they will not just be getting to know themselves and play together a few months before a major competition. It is the job of the footballing authority in any country to ensure that youth players are spotted early enough by the right coaches with sound technical know how to manage a football team in order to groom them for future national assignments. Every  country I know in europe and south america do that but not our own. Infact we still have people like you asking questions like "is it the NFF/NFA that will manufacture an Okocha for you"? I mean if the NFF/NFA do not choose and appoint the right coaches for the job who will go out and scout for genuine Nigerian Talent who will discover the talents? Will the talents discover Themselves? Instead of doing the right thing people are busy eating bribe from all these old papa them simply because they play for clubs in europe and England just so they can wear national colours and keep playing for their clubs. Our egunje tradition has eating into our football and if you come sounding like you don't know then it is either you are in collaboration with the egunje league of traitors or you genuinely have got no clue about what is going on on or off the pitch.

You dont get it do you?
NFF are supposed to spot the right talents, coordinate football very well to acceptable standards
yeah i agree

will that make you breed another okocha? or win the world cup or not lose to Argentina

There is a dearth of talent right now and thats just my point. NFF , SE, fans are all Nigerians and we are all part of the problem

Someone was saying ex footballers should b allowed to run football in the country in order to stem the rot in the system and another ignoramus lauded the idea as the best post. I chose not to respond because , at this level, i shouldnt be engaging in a free for all banter

who are the people running the FA in England? is it Gascoigne or Lineker? or is it Paul Ince?
what about Brasil? Pele or Falcao? was Ogunjobi not an ex footballer with shooting stars?

abeg, Nigeria got independence in 1960 and it took the country many years to qualify for world cup
was it because the NFA in those years were poor? The country only won the nations cup for the first time in 1980 on home soil b4 another victory in 1994. How come, we couldnt win between 1982-1992 was it cos the NFA was bad?

at a point in time of a nation, the country will experience all these, even Cameroon is experiencing the same thing; it may be long or soon, all i know is Nigeria will be back to its best

Even our best from time immeorial has been 2 nations cup victories and a round 16 berth in world cup
make we relax abeg

@OP
are u ok?

ill get back to him when we qualify/go home

as for now

im still fasting and praying so i cant deal with his apology now

@Mikeansy
You have started your illogical reasoning again

do you understand football at all? This is not finance or Politics o

There are things that can trigger a defeat in football. UTD lost to Bayern just because rafael bagged a red card; b4 that incident, the game looked like UTD were gonna score 6 goals
same thing happened yesterday, Nigeria was on the ascendancy with a goal and the tune of the game changed when kaita/calamity bagged a needless red card. We lost simply because one of the players acted daft not because the coach didnt prepare them
SAF still rues the loss to Bayern till today; It has nothin to do with the coach

as for ur NFF jibe,
ive told u, the local teams under th football admin of NFF are doing excellently in Africa. The SE are mostly foreign based and most times the Admin of football only affects them when they come together for about 3-4 weeks to prepare

Have you pondered on why countries like Switzerland, Greece, USA, Japan with the excellent football managers they possess havent been able to win the world cup or produce players like Zidane and co? How come the other countries in Africa are suffering the same fate as Nigeria on the global scene. Leave NFF out of your mediocrity, when there is a dearth of talent in a team, the resultant effect is what you saw yesterday

Cameroon are in the same position right now, before the era of zidan and zaky in Egypt, they were anonymous for a long time in Africa; Nigeria is facing a difficult patch right now and will only get over this if our youth teams produce talented players that can step into the shoes of the likes of Kanu and Okocha. as for now, we can only pray

NFF will not manufacture anothe Jay jay for u.
Jay Jay was never a product of NFA/NFF by the way

Amhatu:
Let NFF know and remember the Nigerian who can not go see thier team play before spending money on usless Lagerback

are u requesting for insults with ur crazy posts

Amhatu:
You can insult me all you want, I understand well. It really is a shame what NFF has done.

no, i didnt insult you o
no vex if it comes across as insult