₦airaland Forum

Evra? What nonsense
That's idiotic
We shall see next week

And we nearly paid for those chances

Jesus
Vidaaa

I don't expect Scholes or Park to be on d pitch. One of them should have gone out instead of Carrick. Scholes can get a red from what I'm seeing. Nyways let's see

Why is Rooney so sluggish in goal today?
Rubbish

Nonsense frm Gary Neville

who are those paralympians im seeing above?
are those the caricatures that wanna play us?

den never holla

big father:
Scoring against them is another ball game entirely. The question is can ROONEY leave EPL ?

Can Messi leave La Liga? to where?
bundesliga or serie A?

what kinda question are u asking? he shd leave one of the best clubs to go where?

dayokanu:
When Torres who was a mediocre player in La Liga became an instant hit in the soft EPL

and the spanish national team included a mediocre player in their team

and moreso, athletico madrid made a mediocre their captain as a teenager
ure brilliant sir

hehehehe
someone wants us to break up?

what does he know about Nigeria? and how will the break up affect his country positively?

oh oh, he is not comfortable with our numerical strength and inherent opportunities that goes with the size

he is a dumb ass pillock

So how come we speak with one voice as Niger Delta? Mind your own side of the country and stop trying to discuss other people problems which you are clearly ignorant of. Mind your own village abeg!

u must have been living in kuala lumpur when the ijaws were at daggers drawn with the other tribes

speak with one voice? when and how?

[quote author=~Borat~ link=topic=373612.msg5797788#msg5797788 date=1269967623]This is an absolutely shocking revelation!!
SCANDALOUS!!!
No wonder Tkb[b]419[/b] refused to drop from the top 10
I would consult with Ibime and make sure you both are kicked out for treachery![/quote]How come Dayokanu isnt in top 10?
ive always been a silent achiever; i dont brag
if u wanna undescore my potentials as one of the best managers in this league bar the merceneries imported, then ure free

as for me, i worked within the rules and i used it to ma advantage. Its better you learn how to be smart.
i ate a lotta smartis while growing up so dude appreciate dont hate

[quote author=~Borat~ link=topic=421277.msg5797856#msg5797856 date=1269968339]God pls let ribery be fit. . AMEN[/quote]amen and i pray Robben is fit too

were they dead when Fiorentina and Bourdeaux nearly killed them?
compare UTD to Fiorentina and Bourdeaux and u'll understand the kinda calamity that is about to befall them

we are not stuttgart nor leverkusen but Manchester United

Joke?

some of my friends lost money in afroil

when the NSE and SEC woke up from their slumber, they decided to freeze the stock without any prior warning to the unsuspecting investing public
and yet again, millions went down the drain

tht wasnt a joke. It happened

Folks I’d like to meet
– Dayokanu, noetic16, Sauron, tkb (I think we know each other personally but not so sure), debosky.

uve forgotten Girei
hehehe

when you hit 9ja, u'll remember

violent:
wow!

Tell me you are kidding pls!

I'm so ignorant of the exchange, and am ashamed of it!

I'm sorry if i sound so naive but how exactly do companies manage their risk exposure?

What kind of activities keep all the Asset Management houses in business?

I'm ashamed of that fat NSE boss for their lack of creativity and in the process loosing billions!

hehehehe

I think our Asset mgt companies are not constrained to investing only in Nigeria. we have smart individuals like you running our investment banks and for real, whoever wants to meet up with its obligations will look outside Nigeria. I have been shuttling Lagos -Accra for a while to tap into the emerging opportunities in that country. Its uncommon to see asst mgt companies delving fully into real estate and other similar ventures in Nigeria all in the name of having a diversified bouquet of investments. Our NSE platfrom as at today canot satisfy those needs and any smart thinking individual will look at the opportunities whereever they are to capture the necessary margins to pay up investors.

i am presently doing stuff with the energy desk of a bank that owns a banking franchise in Nigeria (Name stands with S) all in the name of making money which ordinarily isnt ma forte. But hey, we cant trade crude oil on the NSE and we need to make money

violent:
My bad! pardon my ignorance, i thought there are some listed funds that are involved in those on the NSE.

My sis, we are just crawling; we are still at the teething stage and all other instruments are not available yet
we are strictly equity traders as we speak

no futures, no commodities, no index funds yet.

are you disappointed?

violent:
You will have to be extra fast to be there before me. . because i am repositioning my portfolio to take advantage of both upward and downside movements

Are you looking into Commodities and ETFs as well?

we shall see . . . .
Commodities and ETF securities in Nigeria (NSE)?
how now?

are you into that in London?

dayokanu:
Tkb,

Why you go loud the scope na

I remember people laughing at me when I had Bikey as my captain, Dem no know say na scope. Until those yeye Fantasy people spoil am

when its not working again i gast loud the scope
if it was working, u think ill talk

u sabi ur guy na
when we discover anyther line, they wont know

violent:
Wow. . this makes a lot of sense!. . . but to me it still means taking a lot of risk!

a bullish trend might not even last for more than a day!. . . it could be as a result of transitory volatility from large  buy and sell orders as opposed to fundamental volatility due to informational purposes.

What if you invested 20 million in an Insurance stock and the companies announces possible bankruptcy!

But still it sounds like a good strategy but i doubt if i can wait 2-3weeks before i offload my shares after seeing initial price gains.

I believe i can learn a lot from you, but i don't know how to PM on nairaland

hehehe
are u a financial analyst? all your vocabs are not going unnoticed o
im just keeping quiet for u
nyways, i dont think we can PM on NL. Ill tell a MOD to send u my details

nyways, how possible is it for a company to go bankrupt with my 20 million and i wont know?
with all my years in 9ja? hehehe
it cannot happen.

Violent

its risky but with the help of my stochastics and candle sticks, the risk of taking the plunge is low

when the charts scream buy buy buy, i doubt if the bull run will be a day or two except some real bad news truncate the movement

this is what i have tested and i trust my system

too bad, the market is so inefficient right now they dont respond to my analysis anymore

im waiting for the market to pick again and ill be right there b4 before you

AjanleKoko:
I said I heard o! I have absolutely no idea.

As per the IFC thingy, I don't have details, but may send you some offline info. Will ask my people there.

ok, thanks

AjanleKoko:
I said I heard o! I have absolutely no idea.

meanwhile, I need your comment. Do you think there is an Old Boys Network in Naija or not?

i think i noticed the Ife and Unilag clique thing all the places ive worked. Im not sure its pronounced like the we have in the US. There are companies in Nigeria that tend to favour applicants from the old Universities ( UI, OAU, LAG, UNIBEN, NSUKKA and co). I have worked in places where OAU guys were 70% of the whole workforce. I dont think its deliberate but i know interviewers in Nigeria would probably wanna identify more with someone who passed through his or her school.

AjanleKoko:
Let me make an outsider comment:
I did make quite a killing in the stock market, but I spoilt it all by re-investing the profits, cos I thought the growth span would be much longer.
The bank re-capitalization, the huge sums OBJ invested in power (which was supposed to set free the real sector), Dangote's landmark aqcuisitions, I honestly felt it was going to 'rock' for a long while. So I kept re-investing, and never took the profits.
Unfortunately, everything tanked, and right now, confidence level is at its lowest. The silly-azz cabal antics holding us all down with a half-dead prez isn't helping either.

all the money ure talking about werent the cause for the boom, the foreign banks came in with a lot of funds and as soon as they withdrew their cash, the market went down south.

AjanleKoko:
This is something that happens everywhere in the world.
In NY, the Columbia, Yale or Harvard IB scions dominate the world of Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan. Likewise for the Ivy League lawyers, they are usually set for a career at some of the most prestigious law firms in the US, mostly founded by some ex-alumni.
Most people know about Stanford/Caltech/UCB and the Silicon Valley connection. In fact, Sun Microsystems is basically owned by ex-Stanford comp sci grads.

My question is, do we have anything like that in Nigeria? Is there really an 'old boys network'? Do we have firms primarily dominated by ex-alumni of some certain institutions? In my early job-seeking days, I came up a number of times against an 'Ife clique', in places like Telnet, Spar Aerospace (later GS Telecom), Philips Projects Center, and even Resourcery. These days, I hardly hear of such things among the fresh guys coming up. Though I hear Renaissance Capital is dominated by Ife people, that's just about it. All the places that I have worked, and indeed most organizations these days, people join from just about anywhere.

I think it's not so bad to have an old boys network. The only thing I have not seen in Nigeria, is what I consider to be the next level: old boys actually going on to set up their own outfit, and taking it up there. With all the Ife domination of Telnet and GS Telecom, I haven't still heard of any homegrown outfit founded by a bunch of Ife guys competing with those chaps. Pretty disappointing if you ask me.

What do you guys think?

ehn ehn?
didnt know o

so you worked with Resourcery? heard they are tryin to raise cash with IFC presently, do u have any idea how its going?

wow

when you notice any boom, send me a PM and ill show u a lil of what i learnt from that stock market thread

the strategy then was to buy with a huge sum and sell when you hit 20-25% appreciation which should be possible in 2-3 weeks

u sell, hold your money, look at the charts again and send the dough on another errand. The insurance stocks usually were the targets

i hope the post restructuring era will allow for these manipulations if not, thats bye bye to short term trading for me

were you on NL when we had the old stock market thread?

i think there are news going on about possible acquisitions here and there but no one is sure which of them will be acquired.

and for ur last line, how active are you on the NSE?

did u make a 'kill' when the market was booming cos i did.

[quote author=Black_Revo link=topic=373612.msg5796472#msg5796472 date=1269956718]What if you give the captain to one of the players on the bench or who is injured. My substitute players do not play at all because they have the lowest value and points.[/quote]but the emergency captain thing has been modified to be a 30 day thing
when i was doing it, the captaincy is given automatically to whoever has the highest points but now, they give to the player with the highest points for the month.
what if they give it to a striker who has been scoring for the past weeks but couldnt find the net on that particular day?
so tread carefully

FunmyKemmy:
@tkb417

What are you selling?

LOL

i buy and sell a lot of things
buy and sell stocks
import stuffs and sell wholesale atimes

the idea is buy anythin low and sell high to make some decent margins

Ibime:
A true legend is one who abnegates himself of legend status.

because den don hail u no mean say make u come dey spew grammar
gerrout of here
otondo

[quote author=~Borat~ link=topic=373612.msg5795826#msg5795826 date=1269951255]I remember when you did this. . .
So thats what you were up to. . .chai. . .Naija! [/quote]LOL!

Borat, i master my environment anywhere i go
it helps bro

Im still looking at ways to topple mubz and im not far from it
watch this space

violent:
what bothers me more is the effect all these will have on credit intermediation in the country and its subsequent effect on small cap industries

But i believe investing on the NSE might be a gold mine with many companies having extremely low P/E ratios as well as strong growth fundamentals evident in the fact that a lot of them are shedding off their fixed costs components, it only points out to the fact that future ROI as well as ROE will be a plus for investors. I really hope folks will take advantage of these opportunities.

I agree some of the companies are undervalued as as result of past occurences but am i gonna invest in a market that has got no bearing? Let me create a sceneario

you invest in Bank A cos the bank is extremely undervalued and because of the new happenings in the financial landscape a la CBN intervention and the new Management on board. 7 months down the line, CBN comes with another round of its intermediation to further clense the system of the past problems and the ever vigilant 9ja investors run back to the market to offload thereby putting more pressure on the stock in question. will you say your investment is a good one?

i have been having series of debates with ma colleagues over this cos i am heavily invested in some of these banks just b4 Sanusi came with his sledge hammer. To some schools, the banks will come good in 3-4 years time, to others, these banks are unhealthy and will be auctioned very soon. Can someone really use these PE ratios and the other technical indicators to meaure what to buy in this present climate?
i dont think so except ure in for many many years