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Tmoni:
tkb417, men na wa ooo bros,

u be my fellow Manc but this your campaign pass the one wey Obasanjo do for first term ooo

Plain fact is 20k/ month is too much for VC is to be profitable.
End off,

see this man
did they tell you hw much they are making per month abi u get VC for Aberdeen? lol

its simple, every biz owner shld be able to adapt to the harsh economic conditions. na to change ur biz model o
if ur cost is 20k (fixed) per month and you have a VC capable of sitting 20, why not scale up to to sit 40 and increase the gate fee also?
abeg, VCs shld learn to adapt abi una no dey buy fuel when den increase pump price of fuel?
hehehe

i no dey do campaign but i get interest in this thread cos the platform in question na my baby in one way or the other i cant disclose here
hehehe

jay bee:
Hope it's not late to join the fanatsy stuff's wagon?

not too late
Chamo and Borat just joined
you can join but some of us will be above you cos we've garnered points over 2 weeks

if you dont mind, pls sign up quickly cos its mad fun in here

i joined the league

so im competing in 2
its cool. but why do we have to be in 2? cant we merge it?

[quote author=sun_temi link=topic=311910.msg4389329#msg4389329 date=1250778069]20k per month. Hmm? I can't help but to feel really sorry for those involved. How would they cope? we all know the problem of PHCN. We all can't work in companies, even we have to, where is the job? I don't know, some nonsense human being will just wake up one day and feels they want to enforce a particular law and our stupid government I'm sorry to use that word will support them.

Even if they have to increase the stuff cos of the fact that this viewing center owner are making money through them, they need' be considarate. 10k is ok.

For all of ya that thinks what HiTV does is ok, try looking the world from our view[/quote]have you ever asked urself if what ure doing is right or wrong?
have you ever tot of it tht what ure doing is illegal?

have you?
so see it from their own angle too

did you say someone is enforcing a law?
hehehe
u dont understand these things, when u do, then come back
all they are asking for you to do is to pay more b4 you beam their product to others if u wanna make money from it
they are not promulgating any law. just abide by the directive;;

mukina2:
lol
na wetin i see i talk oh

continue dey see vision while i win the trophy

chamotex:
Trust me I never lose. No one does it better than Chamotex.
It's only week 3. Newcastle were once leading United with 12 points and they came back to poach them.
By week 10, i'll be there and about.
Don't under-estimate me oo

see this man
we are not Newcastles here o.

ok, we shall see

tkb
i forsee something bad happening to your squad

i rebuke you in Jesus name!

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=302710.msg4388880#msg4388880 date=1250774744]@tkb417
Team Roc! Thats the name of my team i am not too far from y'all only davedylan can kick his feet up for now[/quote]interesting!
we shall see

chamo
you shld have joined this thing since. now relegation is staring you in the face

[quote author=kay_pumpin link=topic=311910.msg4388662#msg4388662 date=1250773054]Now you know,so what's next?
Why do i have a feeling you are not looking at this exhaustively,panoramically and only making your judgement based on assumption that Nigeria is orderly.

Imagine a VC that is aljazeera-ed and all of a sudden besieged by policemen,how on earth does the owner explain to the police what the difference(s) is/are between aljazeera and Hitv,having in mind that these policemen are not trained to know their right from their left. . . . .isn't this avenue for chaos?

What happened again when policemen(or whatever enforcer that is used) decide to take law into their hands,seize like 5 decoders in a day and the decoders are eventually bailed out,wouldn't it be business as usual after such bail out and whose loss is that,HITV?

What happens to HITV when VCs decide to switch to Al-jazeera?You think any ecomomics postulation can save them then?

I am sure this whole decision is not well planned out.It IMPOSSILE  to actualize it in Lagos,never mind the whole of Nigeria.

BTW,Lets visit one of the VCs when my team visits OT and lets have a bet with our cars    _{i am sure you can make do with my 1979 jalopy}  [/quote]the dude said its about 230k not 120k but the subsequent yearly thingy is 120k
i dunno hw many people can cough out 230k at a time

yeah, i understand your concerns about the men in black haranguing the VCs
but i dont think they are daft to arrest someone who doesnt use Hitv.  .   .if tht happens, then whoever is in that position shld knw what to do

bet with my car?
say wetin happen?
haha. i no dey do

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=302710.msg4388483#msg4388483 date=1250771630]Damn! Vidic,Arteta,Young,Cech,Fuller all did me greasy and made me lose 16pts but its all good my new buys did well and with Fab and Arshavin in the mix the only way is up for Team Roc[/quote]whts the name of ur team?
didnt know u were on

FBS:
@kay_pumpin; Thank you and I want tkb417 to answer it.

@tkb417: I assume the 120k is the SF paid, no?
A far and better alternative or don't you think so?

All in all what we are saying is this, HiTV cannot just wake up one morning and say oya start paying 20k.
It's their product but certainly they need customers. FACT!

so 120k is all you'll pay
thts great!

never heared of that b4 but i know there are some funny stations out there

as per the enforcement of the ban, i have said it here that, this will provide an avenue for the Policemen to start extorting VCs
I heared when you pay the 20k, u'll be given a signage tht will show somthing like "authorized VC"
so the signage should ordinarily be wht the Policemen will be looking out for and if they dont see it, na to extort

mreds:
Everyone has raised good points,whether you are for hitv or against but where is the Proudly Nigerian in us?Wayback, Foreign football was not on d high in Naija,a lot of folks follow d local league,Champions league got us all excited then when we watch it on  local tv,even uefa cup and EPL use to be on MBI.Greed and Incompetence led to the dominance of paytv in Naija,These NBC Channels wud av continued airing these events but our rights was blocked when NBC decided to welcome multichoice to start buying rights on behalf of the whole of Africa for years,that was why dstv had been in dominance before the emergence of competitors,Supersport should have had their Hqtrs in Naija if not for the row btw Abacha and SA govt. after the Apartheid in SA, that act also prevented naija from defending the nations cup she won in tunisia in SA in 1996.When HITV came in,they ONLY blocked Dstv from buying rights on behalf of Nigerians,thats y dstv has platforms for Nigeria and rest of africa.We were all excited about it, i automatically became an "ardent Marketer" for Hitv (not a staff,just advising a lot of pple to get on the platform and helping out with installations  for free) but after all these,aside football,the package is poor and all we do is encourage ourselves that it wud get better instead,wat do we have, News about ban,increase,not adding new channels,poor quality, etc.Aint they suppose to be working on getting better instead of all dis?I hope they dont end up as defunct Hitv but i wont be so surprised if they end up like that all because they dont have MATURED MINDS handling the company,i jknow they have got problems with NBC(who should be supporting them but for greed on their own part).There is a lot to say and talk about jare.Let's jst watch,the truth is that, No football, No paytv wud sell in Naija(ask fstv,trendtvetc), so if u want to sell,u knw wat to do.


One of Hitv's problem is that they dont know how to relate with their customers,nothing stops them from starting a campaign that wud enlighten the VC owners and hotel owners reason(s)  y they have to pay above a private subscriber.
Nilesat(VC) - 120k/year
Hitv(VC) - 240k/year
uhm!!!

nice points mred

soloqy
im not disputing the aljazeera thing. just wanted some bits on hw it works

Oh Yes it is-

120k NileSAT
240k- HiTV

You sure say that prize you collect na for Econs?

hahaha
dont they pay subscription for the al jazeera thing?
or am i stupid?

where is Agitators post about economies of scale?
what happened?

pls Moderator
tht was a good point a raised with no vile comments
abi na spambot

Now questions to tkb417, thought you said the alternatives are a no-no?
PS: I'm learning here. Just curious about this whole thing.

haha
he just said the thing goes for 120k

thats not a close substitute

Hitv is 20k
for real, i dont even know anything about that stuff hes talking about

temmytanny:
u be my guy too oooo.i no dey fight you,na HITV i get grudge with.
if you read my other posts,i said i have been promoting their image everywhere even before they started showing EPL cos of the bold step TONY SHUBAIR took to break DSTV monopoly.
FYI, i cant never subscribe to DSTV cos i know they came to chop our money(just like MTN) and use to develop their country.nigeria's DSTV subscription in the highest in africa(i stand to be corrected).SA subscription in less $40 and naija own is about $70 plus.najia has the highest subscribers in african and i expect them to reduce their fee but now as am talking to you they have gone ahead to add 500naira to the 9k per month(with efect from nextmonth).this i believ was caused by HITV's increment.

and that is exactly where am having grudge  wit HITV

ooh ok
mo tigbo

pls, can you enlighten us about te 120k platform?
how does it work? are they in Nigeria?

baron2000:
why would anyone pay millions of pounds to buy rights for a programme and some pirates sit in thier corners and make millions of naira year-in year-out without paying any kobo to the right owners. guys we are all educated. this is pure piracy and its killing our economy and destroying the foundation of businesses. the VC and hotels should meet with the HITV mnangement and find a common ground. and pls dont compare DSTV with HITV.

DSTV got long term loan facilities in SA with very low interest rate. HITV got short term facilities in naija with high interest rate.

Besides when DSTV came they had little or no competition so they could operate freely. HITV has been very bold to come into the market to break the monopoly.

if DSTV could operate with the high cost of the football rights why ddnt they get it? why did they lose the right to Champions league? HITV has gotten it at very high cost. the wont print money to re-coup thier cost will they?

They have to break even and meet loan obligations.

IF YOU CANT AFFORD IT BUZZ OFF.

HITV IS A PROUDLY NIGERIAN PRODUCT JUST LIKE GLO, ZENITH BANK, GTBANK etc


U WANT DSTV, GO TO SOUTH AFRICA

oh oh
i was thinking i was going mad for going against everybody
now i know im sane

why would Nigerians be justifying piracy? it beats me!!

thank you my learned fellow

u dey miss BIG TIME! am sure u never watched the volfburg V koln match(where martins scored a fantastic goal) and beyern V bremen.

PLS DONT LET HITV BLIND YOU.there are lots view and enjoy outside HI RUBBISH.they remain my enemy until they stop their campaign against VC cos thats where people even jobless ones make their day.VCs drive away sorrow and make one occupied.chekena!

my guy, i no dey fight u now
in fact u be my guy. see, what im saying is, we need to support this 9ja thing so that we can grow to compete with our foreign friends
we still have a long way to go but we'll get there

we cant be fighting Hitv for their rights! YOu have a point that the VC has helped in ameliorating the effects of unemployment but yet, that will come with a price. i do not personally think 20k per month is too high. i may be wrong tho (just my opinion)

nyways, i see it was a slip of hand
no wahala

doyin13:
I wonder when Fergie will concede his gamble on Owen has to be written off.

Besides Rooney, United lack players that will make defences shift, well
high caliber defences anyway.

Their passing will help them out against the smaller teams, but they might
find it difficult against the bigger teams.

thank you.
lets see how we play against Arsenal and ill give my verdict

temmytanny:
its really gettin personal dats why i moved back but with your explanation now.i just cant but to contribute.i never knew they have lost la liga.

even the UCL they want to show,they havent dedicated enoff channels for them.what happens when CHESKI,ARSENAL,MADRID, are playing on same day and i want to watch one(ARSENAL) and my wife wants to watch one(she be CHESKI FAN)?mr tkb419,am asking you oooo?

6k to me is noting but 20k to VC with out  DUAL is baba nla PURE RUBBISH[b][/b]

@mreds
look at someone who drew back cos it was getting personal calling; hes the same person calling me tkb419
haha, Nigerians and hypocrisy

ill let it slide cos if ure not new here, u wont even dare to take a spat at me

i see a lot of laboartory retards roaming already so ill allow for some sane comments b4 i post

honeric01:
Ait has the sole right to show the champions league in nigeria, all nigerian matches, german and french league plus u17 worldcup Dstv's got the right to la liga and some matches from epl, fa cup and carline cup, friendlies, nigerian league and seria a. What's left for hitv to show? Epl? Bad business!!!

but honeric, Hitv said they are gonna show the UCL matches too

did you say german and french leagues? haha
nobody wants to see twerps play

the epl is the cashcow

mreds:
@tkb417
why are u taking it very personal?
@tayoTFC
If your name is studied effectively,i wud say maybe u work for TFC eatery where you wont be the one to pay for the monthly subs. fee thats y u've been supporting hitv.
@all
Dont 4get,hitv has lost Spanish La liga rights to Dstv this season,the only thing they are selling is 8EPL matches weekly,UCL(with majority delayed),2 carling cup matches,2 serie A games,europa league(dont knw if it's 100%),no world cup qualifiers, no international friendlies,no world cup etc.All this for just 6k? Na wa o.
Can an average person(i.e Area boys,conductors,students) afford 6k monthly,wat is the assurance that when they close down VCs,people will come and pay?I know they wud still av tkb417 & tayo TFC as customers,will your money be enuf to buy rights?He who has ears,let him hear what the spirit is saying.

chief, i dont do such when people dont attack me.
when you do, i take it back

nice points!
Do you know how much DSTV charged way back and the present pricing for the different bouquets?
how were the VCs doing it years back when they were paying x3 of what Hitv is charging now?

pls enlighten me cos im slow at grabbing things

agitator:
This is how nigerian businessmen think, that's why they find it very difficult to grow.

would have loved to know how a foreign businessman like you think tho
but since you have nothn upstairs to contribute apart frm attacks, ill take it as a rant of a madman

nice contribution tho

Bramble is the highest in value in ur team?
u must have loads of twats in ur team

lets see if you survive this relegation battle

leave ma siggy alone. ill remove it soon

FBS:
All this one na story. Really, this is a new season, though still early days.
Notwithstanding, it's unbelievable you lost to Burnley with all the forming and mouth you guys make.

VDS, Rio/Vida missing? Thought you guys said you can cope without VDS and that Foster can step up to the plate, No?

ur time will come
im sure stoke will beat u with ur team complete

continue gloating over the loss

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294608.msg4387693#msg4387693 date=1250764590]We don't need em yet, abeg.
The season starts from October onwards. . . . . .
I can only remember one season in the last 10 seasons United didn't drop a point in August. . . .2006/7.[/quote]very true!! we dont need them
we dont need the 3 points too

very true!
im sure we'll be last on the table by October.
ure correct. wetin u smoke

mukina2:
stop making mouth here

we shall see who is who pretty soon. imagine everton,Arsenal and Man city cost me points, they had better play and win big oh

i got five zeros and plenty ones and that bramble na hin dem make my captain in absence of the real captain

why u no go dey relegation when na Bramble be ur assitant captain

na division 2 u go play this thing next season
u and them spikdecylinders and co

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294608.msg4387576#msg4387576 date=1250763285]United can cope more with injuries than any team in the EPL. . . . .
In Arsenal's case. . . . .It seems to happen every season with the same excuse.
Hopefully, Vidic will be back for the game against the Lactics and the defence would be sorted.[/quote]i wonder why Vida and Rio are always injured whenever u need dem?
are they getting money from Abramovich for games missed?

i need to know cos the kind of unjuries Rio suffers nowadays are crazy
leg pain, back pain, stomach pain, chest pain, thigh pain and all manner of pains

is he a sicker?
the dude shld becareful o

temmytanny:
the issue of dual shouldnt be a problem now that my TV station accross the world and even nigeria(AIT,NTA and silverbird)is dreaming digitalization.
moreover,selling or having equipment for dual ,to me, isnt a problem.its just their sellfish interest that is delaying the rolling out of dual decoders.
by the time dual decoders come out now,u would be paying 11k per month.
HMMMMMMM naija sense!

oh oh
now i understand where youre coming from

ue right tho! they can still wake up one day and say its now 10k
hmm, ure right!

but what do you do when you dont have a close substitute?
i want to watch footie and DSTV wont give me, what do i do?

FBS

I got a prize in swimming. Does that mean I also got a degree in it?

ure not serious
u didnt see ma post wbi wetin? i said i got a prize for studying econs while in UNI
u missed the UNI

not Unipetrol tho
haha

ive seen u peoples teamlist

i now know what to do

ive been silly b4 trying to arrange according to how a normal team will look like
i don get sense.

just watch

sweetpain:
What will you like to earn?

i think i said any amount will do so far its according to the industry standard
i dont know these things

nice one people
very infromative

didnt know all these years back when i was doing interviews
na God just dey save me cos na rubbish me dey yarn for interviews those days.

imagine this kind of question; why would you like to work for us and i was like cos i love ur advert
ojigbijigbi

ive done ojoro
now i know why you people are amassing points

watch out for me from this weekend

im gunning for the top spot in just 3 weeks!!

Glad you confessed you got a prize and NOT a degree.

haha
how do u get prize without a degree

Apparently, you did not read my earlier questions because if you did, you will notice that you only provided answers to some of them.
Not withstanding, your analysis is flawed for one simple reason. You cannot say because there is a potential demand of 10 million, therefore you raise the price.
You have clearly forgotten that even out of the average you mentioned, how many of those are VCs?
You cannot as a provider say because VC are making money off you, you then decide to increase the subcription fee to any level without factoring in items earlier mentioned.
My main question however, is, how did they arrive at this 20k and how will they enforce it even if at the time of purchase of the package the purpose (home use or VC) is stipulated.
If other "alternatives" cost much more then the VCs have no other option than to pay up but If I understand correctly, HiTV does not offer dual decoders?

PS: I have never used either and that was why I asked those questions.

well
Hitv dont have dual decoders and of course that will evolve overtime

when DSTV came, it took them years b4 they brought the dual decoder thing and this was years after we've been burdened with high monthly subscription charges

as per ur other points about how they came about the 20k, i dunno and only Hitv can provide answers to that.
but i maintain that Hitv can increase thier subscrition charges if they know they have what you want and no one else will offer it

Football

nateevs:
Absolutely . . . I don commot the guy sharpish!
He's fetched me just 1 point over two games and I just realized he's never going to score . .
Never mind what Chac says!

i had him and Mikel Obi but i woke up in d middle of the nite with a loud voice saying
relegation!!! relagation. I took dem off one time!

Anderson would probably cop 50 points all season

this black jersey na wahala
i no dey buy again sef