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genkins:
My brother, there were no pastors in the old testament. Old testament is part of the Bible but is not for Christians to follow. Lemme ask you, how many things in the old testament do you follow? No wonder u pray for your enemies to die which is against the instruction of christ.. If i call you anti christ now, you will pick offense

So as a Christian,u are only meant to follow new testament?
Internet has so much brainwashed pple nd their Christianity.

Go nd read Hebrew 11 nd tell me d fathers of faith d Bible made mentioned of

genkins:
Lol.. Oyedepo has brainwashed you to believe old testament is a Christian book.. Lol.. Oyedepo sef... Lol

So internet Christianity has brainwashed u that old testament isn't Bible.

See what internet Christianity has turn u to?

U can easily run nd call on God of Abraham.
Abraham is d father of faith.
Jesus Christ is the son of David.

Go nd read Hebrew 11 nd correct urself afterwards

SatanTheDeviLL:
in q5 years time , I will be a world class billionaire. I am talking about billions in dollars you bastard. Before end of this year u will die of hunger

Time will tell...just wait nd see

hensben:
O ye are priest, it’s in the bible. As a born again Christian we are equal in the eyes of the Lord. Jesus even warn against calling anybody father spiritually, that we only have one father which is God. Pentecostal churches in Nigeria mixes everything; paganism, tradition and call it Christianity.

U better read nd know d Bible for urself. Stop following internet Christians to be saying wat u don't know.

Elisha called Elijah his father in d Bible nd God was not angry with him.

Paul called Timothy his son in d Bible nd God was not angry with him.
At least Paul wrote 2/3 of the new testament.

We are all born again Christian in d eyes of God, but there are levels.
There are still babes in d kingdom that uses milk, nd there are adults that takes strong meat.

Go back nd study d word of God for urself

Richy4:
Are u really asking if church was an organisation? Hmmm!! I thought I was talking to....
Anyways bye..

I stand by what I said earlier

Enjoy ur day...bye

iramure:
nobody will arrest you for stating your opinion. That is why I have never insulted you as I talk to you. But please try and see beyond your nose. You are in bondage.

If what I said is a sign of bondage to u, then enjoy ur freedom while it last

Richy4:
You are really a funny character buddy... Were you implying that if I am a born again Christian, that will give me the opportunity to understand what he wrote and if I'm not, I can't?....

How about approaching every thing with open mind instead of dwelling so much in what u were getting from the ministry?...

If for example u were working in an organisation and u discovered that you do not like what was happening in that organisation, do u just keep quiet and say yea, well.. I get so much blessings in this organisation,...My salary and bonus comes from this organisation, I train my kids based on what I am getting in this organisation hence, no need to say a word even when things were going wrong?

Because where I stand, that is just what I think u were implying.....

The church of God is diff from any organisation.
Never compare d church of God with any organisation.

If u don't like a pastor or a ministry, u have d right to leave.

Druss:
Good you are stating verses. This is 2 Chronicles 20 v 20

And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the Lord your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

This is Isaiah 44 vs 26

Who confirms the word of His servant,
And performs the counsel of His messengers;
Who says to Jerusalem, ‘You shall be inhabited,’
To the cities of Judah, ‘You shall be built,’
And I will raise up her waste places

Could you expatiate on how the above back your points taking into account the background of the chapters?

The reason I brought up these scriptures is bcuz of what I said earlier that u can't be blessed under any pastor or ministry u criticize.

Since u already know that God confirms d word of his servants, even if ur pastor pronounced blessings upon u it won't work bcuz u are against d ministry.

I think d sçripture is simple for everyone to understand

genkins:
I can now see where your problem is coming from. Give me a Christian scripture, you went to the old testament.. Was there Christianity in the old testament? Sorry bro, you are Not a Christian yet.

So old testament is no more Bible to u.

There were prophets nd pastors in d old testament nd so there is in d new testament.

genkins:
Keep deluding your self with old testament scripture.

Is old testament no more Bible.

So u have separate old testament from new testament, u are just too funny.

SatanTheDeviLL:
I am a pastor and man of god , believe me when I say oyedepo na SCAMMER

Just watch ur future for d next 5 years, time is d proof of wisdom.

Give urself time nd see d future u have proclaimed upon urself.

wirinet:
Because its a free world. Jesus himself was criticized and then beeten, tortured and eventually killed. In all these, he never cursed anyone with leprosy.

If Bishop Oyedepo cannot take ordinary criticism, then he is not fit to be called a Christian.

There were no Christian when Jesus walked d earth, but any of Jesus disciples criticized him.

U can't be in the light nd criticize light, it's not possible.
Darkness is d only thing that criticize light.

goslowgoslow:
Who gives him power to pronounce judgment of any set of people?

Go nd read Isi 44 Vs 26

God gives him power

iramure:
He wasn't talking to everyone, but born again christain.?.
Good!
Note this; not everyone in all his numerous "churches" is "born again" yet he collect tithe, offering, prophetic this, convenant that, kingdom partners nonsense and other numerous donations from them all not only from " born again". He should have limited his collections to only genuine born again Christian alone. Now, talking is for only born again while scamming/collection is from everyone.
Can you now see your pastor is manipulative.
Please my brother, you need to be making use of your sound mind. I wish you well.

Did any church force u to pay tithe?

Nobody has ever force giving on u or anyone. It's ur choice to give nd not to.

With all ur sound mind, I can't believe u can be talking like this.

iramure:
let me believe you are just pulling my legs. I can't believe someone with his senses intact can be talking like this. I'm sorry if you feel insulted. I never meant to insult you.
Who sets pastor over you.?
God must be wicked to set manipulative, greedy and scamming pastors over you. Don't you have eyes to see or ears to hear?
I fear who doesn't fear you.

I'm a born again Christian nd we live by a diff set of rules.

At least u are entitle to ur opinion about churches nd pastors, even about God.

genkins:
Is it God that set oyedepo over you? I asked you which Christian scripture corroborates what oyedepo said.. U are deeply brainwashed my friend!

I don't need to argue with you.
2 chronicles 20 Vs 20 nd Isi 44 Vs 26 are there for u see how God see his prophets nd pastors.

Ohh u don't know that God confirm d words of his servants nd perform d counsel of his messenger.

U better know d scripture for urself before queuing up with pple that don't read d scripture.

chukel:
you can't be blessed in a land (Nigeria) or under the president (Buhari) you curse. That is the scripture according to you.

I'm talking about a born again Christian which got nothing to do with Nigeria or the president.

As a born again Christian, u can never be blessed under a pastor u criticize , quote me anywhere. Life is spiritual

iramure:
he is only trying to help u. He meant no insult my dear. Your initial comment did not show that you make use of sound mind at all. You simply too have believe in these con men called pastors. I pray you are liberated

Yes I believe in God nd I believe also in His prophets nd pastors.

I'm a born again Christian nd this is what d scripture says which I have to.

Ur Christianity is questionable if u have problems with believing in the pastor God has set over u.
U can't believe in God nd not believe in the prophet God set over u.

Richy4:
I am a Christian and I owe no one an apology for being one... But I dislike people (pastors) that quotes scriptures to suit whatever tendencies they want to achieve...

Speaking of leprosy, I guess he was talking about what happened between Miriam, Aaron and Moses in the wilderness in the old testament...

U can't just believe everything u hear from the pastors...there are still the tendencies of lying spirits controlling some of them because it has happened before in the Bible..If u read the Bible, one will not easily be carried away or deceived by some of them..1kings 22:21-23

I think if u actually a born again Christian, u will need to read what Bishop Oyedepo said with open mind.

Everything he said is in d scripture. U can't be in a ministry that has or is blessing u nd u are insulting or criticizing d pastor or the church.

U can't be a child of light nd keep criticizing d light.

If u are not okay with the ministry or u don't like the pastor why u can't u walk or go to another ministry that will minister to u in a better way.


The truth is that u can't be blessed in a ministry or under a pastor u criticize, this is d truth. Read A-Z in d Bible, this is what d scripture says

iramure:
sit down please and learn from intellectuals talking. You will gain a lot and be free from whatever enslavement you are in forthwith

He's not talking to everyone, but born again Christian.
He's not talking to church goer, but Christian.


If u don't like a person or a ministry, why can't u walk?

Tomahawk99:
But he made a valid point. Adult like you cannot think for himself.

I'm a Christian nd I live by d rules nd regulations.

naija4life247:
Don't allow stupidity to kill you ooo

The things of God are foolishness to the pple of the world. U can't understand it so no need to argue

naija4life247:
Don't allow stupidity to kill you ooo

That's d diff btw a born again Christian nd someone that's not.

I believe everything the Bible says nd it is d rule I live by.

mybiz234:
9ga Shameless slave, shut the Bleep up.

If your pastor rapes your daughter, will you also keep quiet and do nothing about it?

U don't quote my post nd start insulting me.
If u don't know how to talk to pple , then something else is wrong with u.

U don't deserve a good reply bcuz u lack manners

Bishop Oyedepo is talking to Born again Christian here bcuz we live by certain principles.

Secondly, Bishop Oyedepo talked about speaking against ministry u are in or that has been a blessing to u.

U can't be a Christian nd keep talking against church nd the things of God bcuz light can't be against light.

All Bishop Oyedepo said is d truth nd that ignorance is not an excuse in the kingdom of God.

Are they not giving it to God?

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flexyrule:
Pep had the best team in EPL and couldn't win the champions league final against Lampard's Salsa team.
Conte has Son and Harry Kane, yet he can only win the EPL in his dreams.
Lukaku is a great player, no doubt, but his style of play can only work in Inter Milan.

Why waste such amount of money on him is d question.

If u are buying a player of almost 100 million pounds, then be ready to play to his strength.

About Pep having d best team in EPL. Most of those players, u don't know them before coming to Man City.
He bought KBD from one German team like that. Who wàs Bernardo Silva before coming to Man City or Cancello or Jesus that was bought from Brazil.

Such amount of money isn't something to buy a player with that u can't play to his strength.

Lukaku said something's that were just too much, but d coach is d problem here.

Don't let winning d champion League overcloud ur judgement, why buy d player if u can't play to his strength.

Chelsea had enough time before buying Lukaku, it's either he's suitable or not.

Give Conte Lukaku nd see what he will turn him to.
Mind you Conte did it with Diego Costa nd he was a terror for all premier League defenders.

Or Give Pep Lukaku nd see what Man City will turn him to.

Belgium also play to his strength nd he's their best all time striker.

Give Man City Lukaku nd see how Pep will transform him.

Or give Lukaku to Conte nd see how Spurs will be super again.
Conte did d same with Diego Costa that year , he was a terror to all defenders.

Why will u buy with such money without playing to his strength is d question to ask Chelsea coach?
They didn't force you to buy, but if u would spend such amount,then u have to play to his strength.